Apr 5, 2017 11:21 PM
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sparky2212
Trump does not give a shit.
sillybutts
Yeah well, dont spend the majority of your budget on enormous fucking salaries. these people are disc jockeys.
captchatypingrobot
If you could get rid of all the waste in the DoD, you could either run it the same for much less, or spend the same and build a star fleet
ucatione
How about the people that actually watch PBS pay for it? It'
whalethen
As budget cuts are considered, cut someone else's stuff, but don't touch mine. Meanwhile, entitlements grow automatically.
TheBritish117
Man, Tosh.0 got old, he's like Tosh.90 now...
cyberspork
Everyone needs to watch Mr Rogers defend PBS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q
koinuchan
The part where he got goosebumps.
ratchetsnatch
I can't remember the last time I watched a show on PBS.
Hightower840
Psssssst. The government doesn't want smart people. They need you just able to do your job, but not capable of critical thinking.
IUpvoteScience
Hmmm General Education seems like a weird name for General Mcchrystal
CadaverBredstic
This comment is absolute gold. Im cracking up rn
An0n1III0us
"team of teams " amazing book,amazing man. and no,i'm not american
Robbiebru
It should be a source of revenue instead of a drain. ==> http://imgur.com/user/Jamarce
findyourway14
Let’s see what madness dear leader gets us into today.
MinkfordBrimley
Read "Retired" as "Retarded" and had to come back.
Buckbeak1486
But, our government doesn't want us to be smarter. They want us to be mindless fat fucks.
midraresteak
Wtf? Pbs isn't even good education..
PizzaGovorun
But v
poopydookie
It is what it is.
thefivethree53
As a current soldier, id love some new armor vs your public broadcasting. Just saying.
emkev
As a current citizen I'd love for you not to be at war propping up failing democracies and generally destabilizing regions. Just saying.
Ok. let me get right on that.
chudtime
But they are purveyors of truth and that will not work with this administration
DragonPat
His ted talk rocks.
SaintNewts
Melania moving to the White House and Trump skipping a weekend at Mira Lago would pay for it.
yea, but REMEMBER HOW MUCH OBAMA GOLFED? lol
(sarcasm in case you didn't realize)
He was such a lazy president. [Sarc.]
THANKS OBUMMER
alchemist12345
That only works if the government funded broadcasts remain relatively unbiased. In Hungary the government spends vast amounts of money
on "public" broadcasts (some of those outlets would go under in a day if they werent funded) and they are used as propaganda machines.
Well this isn't Hungary, is it?
Didnt say it were, it was an example how it can be bad if its biased.
Larryugo
Millions in your area looking for dating and sex free site, visit == W W W . passionfoundhere . C O M
Sionas
It seems these Republicans want a dumb populace that they can easily control.
And if we left it up to the states I'm sure some would have it, and some wouldn't. And those that didn't would be missing out.
Schtalin
An educated populace is a safer populace. He's right, the amount of money PBS and NPR get from the federal government is tiny
ThatTransformersDude
And the NEA, there is a correlation between progress in the arts and progress in society.
0.01% of the fed budget, to be precise
ScootyPuffSr
An educated populace IS a safer populace. Education is a national defense priority. We need a new Sputnik Moment to remind us.
jonestown
I don't think it's about education - it's about funding media that has a liberal bent.
yea, lol sesame street and mr rogers and nova and nature all have a total liberal bent.
CrisprCASrat
By liberal bent do you mean educational?
well considering how a lot of the right has lately held up being intellectual as a bad thing, maybe?
TallDude
That's the crux of it unfortunately. Political reasons to remove accessible and high quality avenues of education.
farthammet
Today's lineup in my city: Sesame Street Arthur Ed Sullivan Rock and Roll PBS News Charlie Rose Secrets of Davinci Not really liberal spin
d0o0o0d
Have you looked at NPR's demographics? Here, scroll down to 'Audience Profiles'. http://nationalpublicmedia.com/npr/audience/
but why do the demographics matter?
"NPR listeners are 133% more likely to be top management and 148% more likely to be C-suite executives"
I kinda think these are people who don't need government-subsidized programming. If they like it, they can afford to pick up the tab.
InsertUnimaginativeUsernameHere
But an educated public is harder to control. You give them simple entertainment and point to the boogie man to scare them to keep you going.
An educated public is controlled by giving them things they need to prosper and be happy.
chaoslordjiro
But they also may complain when you're looting the treasury for personal gain, or fucking over everyone else in the name of profit.
Thecogwheel
Should also be noted that an educated public is needed to operate and further develop increasingly complex military hardware.
helpusdrzaius
I'm the operator of my pocket calculator.
Look at this scrub, he doesn't even have one of those fancy calculator watches. SMH
DaisukeAramaki
It has been so long since I've thought about Kraftwerk. Thank you, random citizen, for reminding me.
by pressing down on a special key, it plays a little melody ;)
anvilon
The argument for defunding hinges on "If it's a tiny amount and PB is truly appreciated, there will be plenty of donors to make it up."
Then if we defund the military and it's appreciated, wouldn't private citizens also step up and fund it?
conniecpu
NPR in my area gets less than 7% of their budget from the CPB, but that isn't the case in areas like rural Alaska.
So let's rely on hypothetical donors instead of actual funding
JudgeMentalCat
The people who benefit from it the most don't HAVE the spare cash to throw at it.
Taxes insure that those on top pay their fair share to help out everyone else .
They can live in luxury BECAUSE of our society- they should have to pay back into it.
Nobody7713
So they should have to pay back in kind to help others gain that opportunity. 2/2
That's the best argument for proportional taxation. The wealthy have disproportionately benefited from the way that society is structured 1/
Someoneisinmyhead
How much money is made from Seasme Street?
NachoPete
Ask HBO.
FlatPlutoSociety
Who cares? The company that produces Sesame Street doesn't receive CPB or PBS funding. They make their money on licensing/merch agreements.
Considering how little is spent and how many children watch and learn from that show, I'd say not enough
But what about merchandising and licensing? Just curious.
Around 45 million annually http://www.slate.com/articles/business/explainer/2012/01/does_sesame_street_lose_money_.html
that's really not much at all
newandimproving
Please also encourage funding for Career Technical Education (FFA, FBLA, etc.), is it an extremely important program for 1/
scorchfiend89
I agree. My time in FBLA and CTE is largely responsible for where I am today. Gainfully employed with benefits in a fulfilling job.
students who can't afford/attend college and helps young people develop good qualities such as leadership and a good work ethic 2/
CTE changed my life and made me a more well rounded person, I truly believe our nation would suffer without it. 3/3
Cheesecakecrush
How many of you have actually watched PBS in the past month?
TedBrasir
I watch PBS or listen to NPR every day. I suspect many other people here, that don't value being stupid, do as well.
"That don't value being stupid" What an assumption you made. I asked a simple question. Don't over think it and hurt yourself.
FNHuskys
The US is fucked. They will never, ever, get out of the debt they are in. Neither Trump, Hillary, nobody can do it.
GlassTurtle
America is built on debt we don't actually want to pay it off we just need to stop increasing it at a rate noticeably greater than inflation
StormtrooperDHX11317
Thabks Obama
relicen
I think you mean "Thanks Bush". Considering it was Bush that deregulated the banks that caused the finacial crisis and started the Iraq war>
No it was bill Clinton that did that.
Clinton started the Iraq War and deregulated the banks..? I'd like to try what you're smoking.
He deregulated the banks which caused the eventual banking crisis. I didn't mean the Iraq war.
> that made it inevitable.
TannerHastings
A dumb populace is easier to subjugate
barnwolf
The wiser you are, the more uncertain you become about everything, and an uncertain populace is easy to pull a fast one on.
having a fast one pulled on you is the opposite of wise, wise is the ability to critically think
Zellacat
A people indoctrinated from childhood up with socialist propaganda will already be subjugated.
GusTarball
What about a dumb leader?
Can you elaborate?
GangsterRapMadeMeSayIt
And to sodomize
stabbedintheface
And randomize
IfPeeingYourPantsIsCoolCallMeMilesDavis
And spumoni
Also,
confanity
The Democrats are for education; it's the GOP that wants to scrap all science and teach Bible stories in its place.
ILiveInStateParks
Personally, I think it's a tad paranoid. But it has a kernel of truth to it too.
Theforgottenartoffuckey
TehSeksyManz
3:13 Google; George Carlin "The American Dream" Best 3 Minutes of His Career. Shitlord.
djethex
+1
[deleted]
And that other comment is hardly relevant to this. Nice snoopin, tho
You never stated an opinion though?
Funny how you made comments about downvoting people's comments with opposing views. I'm intitled to my own opinion and I disagree with
What the guy says. I know what he said was real but I don't think what he said is something that is true
nanyatenyaa
Stop quoting a fucking satirist on politics. He's not a reliable source, he's a comedian who writes satire.
Spend two seconds thinking critically about something so serious instead of showing us the best you can do is a comedian.
StarrrryNight
You're right. Sorry. Lets go over to the white house and find out what the fucking reality TV show host has to say on the matter.
Probably something about his wife's product line up and there's nothing to see here, but there isn't to see is yuge.
I like that I got down voted. It's funny because educated citizens grow the economy, increase defense and advance research.
Apperently imgur has spoken, they would rather take seriously a person who was intentionally making a joke vs actually thinking about it.
But hey, history has only shown that education offered as a government service vastly improves the standard of living so lets believe a joke
Well, they have a knack for cutting it right down to the bone, being able to formulate it and not being afraid of putting it out there.
So now we are relying on comedians to get our political insight?
Because it's satire and not meant to be taken as a serious source of information. Like the today show. Say it with me. It's SATIRE.
KolyaLegend
Yeah satirists are always making satire remarks. Like every word that comes out of their mouth are satirical. Good logic.
Let the critical thinking flow through me*.
Turns out, the "fucking satirist" could be smarter than you are.
How so? His commentary is meant for entertainment purposes but imgur takes it like the word of god.
He is smarter than you are because you cannot distinguish a satirical statement from sincere ones. You're that dumb I'm sorry.
Except... my original comment is that we shouldn't defer to satirist because they intentionally make comments sound sincere.
I take his entertainment driven work as entertainment because that is what it is meant to be. Amusing. Not a civil up rising.
And if you're trying to express a deeper understanding by mimicking his satires I'm sorry but you're fucking terrible.
inb4thewar
Read the statement again without Carlin's picture next to it. Imagine no one said it and judge the words on the merit of their argument.
No, you relate his work in everything he says because your reason is limited. That's all that is to you, you're shallow and narrow-minded.
sparky2212
Trump does not give a shit.
sillybutts
Yeah well, dont spend the majority of your budget on enormous fucking salaries. these people are disc jockeys.
captchatypingrobot
If you could get rid of all the waste in the DoD, you could either run it the same for much less, or spend the same and build a star fleet
ucatione
How about the people that actually watch PBS pay for it? It'
whalethen
As budget cuts are considered, cut someone else's stuff, but don't touch mine. Meanwhile, entitlements grow automatically.
TheBritish117
Man, Tosh.0 got old, he's like Tosh.90 now...
cyberspork
Everyone needs to watch Mr Rogers defend PBS https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXEuEUQIP3Q
koinuchan
The part where he got goosebumps.
ratchetsnatch
I can't remember the last time I watched a show on PBS.
Hightower840
Psssssst. The government doesn't want smart people. They need you just able to do your job, but not capable of critical thinking.
IUpvoteScience
Hmmm General Education seems like a weird name for General Mcchrystal
CadaverBredstic
This comment is absolute gold. Im cracking up rn
An0n1III0us
"team of teams " amazing book,amazing man. and no,i'm not american
Robbiebru
It should be a source of revenue instead of a drain. ==> http://imgur.com/user/Jamarce
findyourway14
Let’s see what madness dear leader gets us into today.
MinkfordBrimley
Read "Retired" as "Retarded" and had to come back.
Buckbeak1486
But, our government doesn't want us to be smarter. They want us to be mindless fat fucks.
midraresteak
Wtf? Pbs isn't even good education..
PizzaGovorun
But
v
poopydookie
PizzaGovorun
It is what it is.
thefivethree53
As a current soldier, id love some new armor vs your public broadcasting. Just saying.
emkev
As a current citizen I'd love for you not to be at war propping up failing democracies and generally destabilizing regions. Just saying.
thefivethree53
Ok. let me get right on that.
chudtime
But they are purveyors of truth and that will not work with this administration
DragonPat
His ted talk rocks.
SaintNewts
Melania moving to the White House and Trump skipping a weekend at Mira Lago would pay for it.
cyberspork
yea, but REMEMBER HOW MUCH OBAMA GOLFED? lol
cyberspork
(sarcasm in case you didn't realize)
SaintNewts
He was such a lazy president. [Sarc.]
cyberspork
THANKS OBUMMER
alchemist12345
That only works if the government funded broadcasts remain relatively unbiased. In Hungary the government spends vast amounts of money
alchemist12345
on "public" broadcasts (some of those outlets would go under in a day if they werent funded) and they are used as propaganda machines.
emkev
Well this isn't Hungary, is it?
alchemist12345
Didnt say it were, it was an example how it can be bad if its biased.
Larryugo
Millions in your area looking for dating and sex free site, visit == W W W . passionfoundhere . C O M
Sionas
It seems these Republicans want a dumb populace that they can easily control.
Sionas
And if we left it up to the states I'm sure some would have it, and some wouldn't. And those that didn't would be missing out.
Schtalin
An educated populace is a safer populace. He's right, the amount of money PBS and NPR get from the federal government is tiny
ThatTransformersDude
And the NEA, there is a correlation between progress in the arts and progress in society.
cyberspork
0.01% of the fed budget, to be precise
ScootyPuffSr
An educated populace IS a safer populace. Education is a national defense priority. We need a new Sputnik Moment to remind us.
PizzaGovorun
jonestown
I don't think it's about education - it's about funding media that has a liberal bent.
cyberspork
yea, lol sesame street and mr rogers and nova and nature all have a total liberal bent.
CrisprCASrat
By liberal bent do you mean educational?
cyberspork
well considering how a lot of the right has lately held up being intellectual as a bad thing, maybe?
TallDude
That's the crux of it unfortunately. Political reasons to remove accessible and high quality avenues of education.
farthammet
Today's lineup in my city: Sesame Street Arthur Ed Sullivan Rock and Roll PBS News Charlie Rose Secrets of Davinci Not really liberal spin
d0o0o0d
Have you looked at NPR's demographics? Here, scroll down to 'Audience Profiles'. http://nationalpublicmedia.com/npr/audience/
cyberspork
but why do the demographics matter?
d0o0o0d
"NPR listeners are 133% more likely to be top management and 148% more likely to be C-suite executives"
d0o0o0d
I kinda think these are people who don't need government-subsidized programming. If they like it, they can afford to pick up the tab.
InsertUnimaginativeUsernameHere
But an educated public is harder to control. You give them simple entertainment and point to the boogie man to scare them to keep you going.
Schtalin
An educated public is controlled by giving them things they need to prosper and be happy.
chaoslordjiro
But they also may complain when you're looting the treasury for personal gain, or fucking over everyone else in the name of profit.
Thecogwheel
Should also be noted that an educated public is needed to operate and further develop increasingly complex military hardware.
helpusdrzaius
I'm the operator of my pocket calculator.
cyberspork
Look at this scrub, he doesn't even have one of those fancy calculator watches. SMH
DaisukeAramaki
It has been so long since I've thought about Kraftwerk. Thank you, random citizen, for reminding me.
helpusdrzaius
by pressing down on a special key, it plays a little melody ;)
anvilon
The argument for defunding hinges on "If it's a tiny amount and PB is truly appreciated, there will be plenty of donors to make it up."
cyberspork
Then if we defund the military and it's appreciated, wouldn't private citizens also step up and fund it?
conniecpu
NPR in my area gets less than 7% of their budget from the CPB, but that isn't the case in areas like rural Alaska.
Schtalin
So let's rely on hypothetical donors instead of actual funding
JudgeMentalCat
The people who benefit from it the most don't HAVE the spare cash to throw at it.
JudgeMentalCat
Taxes insure that those on top pay their fair share to help out everyone else .
JudgeMentalCat
They can live in luxury BECAUSE of our society- they should have to pay back into it.
Nobody7713
So they should have to pay back in kind to help others gain that opportunity. 2/2
Nobody7713
That's the best argument for proportional taxation. The wealthy have disproportionately benefited from the way that society is structured 1/
Someoneisinmyhead
How much money is made from Seasme Street?
NachoPete
Ask HBO.
FlatPlutoSociety
Who cares? The company that produces Sesame Street doesn't receive CPB or PBS funding. They make their money on licensing/merch agreements.
Schtalin
Considering how little is spent and how many children watch and learn from that show, I'd say not enough
Someoneisinmyhead
But what about merchandising and licensing? Just curious.
Schtalin
Around 45 million annually http://www.slate.com/articles/business/explainer/2012/01/does_sesame_street_lose_money_.html
cyberspork
that's really not much at all
newandimproving
Please also encourage funding for Career Technical Education (FFA, FBLA, etc.), is it an extremely important program for 1/
scorchfiend89
I agree. My time in FBLA and CTE is largely responsible for where I am today. Gainfully employed with benefits in a fulfilling job.
newandimproving
students who can't afford/attend college and helps young people develop good qualities such as leadership and a good work ethic 2/
newandimproving
CTE changed my life and made me a more well rounded person, I truly believe our nation would suffer without it. 3/3
Cheesecakecrush
How many of you have actually watched PBS in the past month?
TedBrasir
I watch PBS or listen to NPR every day. I suspect many other people here, that don't value being stupid, do as well.
Cheesecakecrush
"That don't value being stupid" What an assumption you made. I asked a simple question. Don't over think it and hurt yourself.
FNHuskys
The US is fucked. They will never, ever, get out of the debt they are in. Neither Trump, Hillary, nobody can do it.
GlassTurtle
America is built on debt we don't actually want to pay it off we just need to stop increasing it at a rate noticeably greater than inflation
StormtrooperDHX11317
Thabks Obama
relicen
I think you mean "Thanks Bush". Considering it was Bush that deregulated the banks that caused the finacial crisis and started the Iraq war>
FNHuskys
No it was bill Clinton that did that.
relicen
Clinton started the Iraq War and deregulated the banks..? I'd like to try what you're smoking.
FNHuskys
He deregulated the banks which caused the eventual banking crisis. I didn't mean the Iraq war.
relicen
> that made it inevitable.
TannerHastings
A dumb populace is easier to subjugate
barnwolf
The wiser you are, the more uncertain you become about everything, and an uncertain populace is easy to pull a fast one on.
cyberspork
having a fast one pulled on you is the opposite of wise, wise is the ability to critically think
Zellacat
A people indoctrinated from childhood up with socialist propaganda will already be subjugated.
GusTarball
What about a dumb leader?
Zellacat
A people indoctrinated from childhood up with socialist propaganda will already be subjugated.
TannerHastings
Can you elaborate?
GangsterRapMadeMeSayIt
And to sodomize
stabbedintheface
And randomize
IfPeeingYourPantsIsCoolCallMeMilesDavis
And spumoni
PizzaGovorun
Also,
confanity
The Democrats are for education; it's the GOP that wants to scrap all science and teach Bible stories in its place.
ILiveInStateParks
PizzaGovorun
Personally, I think it's a tad paranoid. But it has a kernel of truth to it too.
Theforgottenartoffuckey
TehSeksyManz
3:13 Google; George Carlin "The American Dream" Best 3 Minutes of His Career. Shitlord.
djethex
+1
[deleted]
[deleted]
TehSeksyManz
And that other comment is hardly relevant to this. Nice snoopin, tho
TehSeksyManz
You never stated an opinion though?
ILiveInStateParks
Funny how you made comments about downvoting people's comments with opposing views. I'm intitled to my own opinion and I disagree with
ILiveInStateParks
What the guy says. I know what he said was real but I don't think what he said is something that is true
nanyatenyaa
Stop quoting a fucking satirist on politics. He's not a reliable source, he's a comedian who writes satire.
nanyatenyaa
Spend two seconds thinking critically about something so serious instead of showing us the best you can do is a comedian.
StarrrryNight
You're right. Sorry. Lets go over to the white house and find out what the fucking reality TV show host has to say on the matter.
nanyatenyaa
Probably something about his wife's product line up and there's nothing to see here, but there isn't to see is yuge.
nanyatenyaa
I like that I got down voted. It's funny because educated citizens grow the economy, increase defense and advance research.
nanyatenyaa
Apperently imgur has spoken, they would rather take seriously a person who was intentionally making a joke vs actually thinking about it.
nanyatenyaa
But hey, history has only shown that education offered as a government service vastly improves the standard of living so lets believe a joke
PizzaGovorun
Well, they have a knack for cutting it right down to the bone, being able to formulate it and not being afraid of putting it out there.
ILiveInStateParks
So now we are relying on comedians to get our political insight?
nanyatenyaa
Because it's satire and not meant to be taken as a serious source of information. Like the today show. Say it with me. It's SATIRE.
KolyaLegend
Yeah satirists are always making satire remarks. Like every word that comes out of their mouth are satirical. Good logic.
PizzaGovorun
nanyatenyaa
Let the critical thinking flow through me*.
KolyaLegend
Turns out, the "fucking satirist" could be smarter than you are.
nanyatenyaa
How so? His commentary is meant for entertainment purposes but imgur takes it like the word of god.
KolyaLegend
He is smarter than you are because you cannot distinguish a satirical statement from sincere ones. You're that dumb I'm sorry.
nanyatenyaa
Except... my original comment is that we shouldn't defer to satirist because they intentionally make comments sound sincere.
nanyatenyaa
I take his entertainment driven work as entertainment because that is what it is meant to be. Amusing. Not a civil up rising.
KolyaLegend
And if you're trying to express a deeper understanding by mimicking his satires I'm sorry but you're fucking terrible.
inb4thewar
Read the statement again without Carlin's picture next to it. Imagine no one said it and judge the words on the merit of their argument.
KolyaLegend
No, you relate his work in everything he says because your reason is limited. That's all that is to you, you're shallow and narrow-minded.