Aug 9, 2017 1:04 PM
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ZebbyIsWitty
Brrrrrrtttt
hiddenwolfeyes
TheCheapSeats
When the army runs out of food, Dany does he smart things and burns the carts full of food
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RXJ235231
And yes I upvoted you.
VoiceOfVerisimilitude
He'll probably die from that shoulder scratch, just like Drogo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
e351
Maybe I'm slow but I worry the arrow was poison tipped. If you land one in a dragon you wouldn't need to worry too much about precise aim.
Talmorean
"Fuck yo grain shipment" - Drogon.
joeycannoli
One of the best episodes of the series thus far, IMO
kaleber
Your opinion is fact
HoldingAccount
I find battle scenes a bit boring to watch.
timberrrrrrr
Season, yes. Series, no.
zdriver7
v
Acrage
TimmyDans
I think Dany gotta little mad king in her
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
IDidntKnowICouldChangeMyNameNowICanPost
Solid Reign of Fire gif
Thanks. v
InqDeth
@ your username
domenick91
Being a tactician on the other hand. Ehhh Danny you need some helpin hands
What happened to no spoilers policy of Imgur community?
canariomojadoChief
This may have been one of my favorite episodes ever... crazy crazy show
umbreon089
What show is this from? I fucking love dragons and need to know.
Game of Thrones
Thanks! I had heard about Game of Thrones but didn't know it has dragons in it.
TinySupreme
This was a good battle scene but my favorite is the battle of the bastards.
GeoScienceMan
The battle of the bastards was better than a lot of movies I've paid to see in theaters
hateschimpanzees
Both were so good! Almost as good as when Joffrey kicks the bucket!
NotCanadianCalisse
Why didn't she initially attack the line from a flank? Burn the whole dang line before hitting the freight. Wouldn't need cavalry.
Tr1smag1stus
I bet now she realizes that she needs amour when going into battle. One well placed arrow would have ended her.
ninus
they wouldnt have made a straight line if the dothraki didnt charge. She used the dothrakis to tee up the lanister ass in spanking height
ifyouoralovedonehavebeendiagnosedwithmesotheliomayoumaybe
Because it's a TV show, and doing things the logical way is dumb.
DinoKebab
This is the correct answer.
Beepity
Burn a whole in their line, and cavalry can pour through it...also and more importantly, it was more visually dramatic.
DAMMIT. *hole, not whole. It's the exact opposite of "whole," c'mon self...
BoozeHound001
She might not be the best strategist? Her battle plans are more like throw a dragon at it.
scottEkarate
I thought the same thing. The dothraki should've stood by on the hill top while she just torched the shit out of them. Air power.
But then every archer and spearmen in the army would have been aiming at her, instead of having to death with dothraki hordes.
loma45
If all of the archers had nothing to worry about then it's far more likely she or the dragon gets injured by a lucky arrow.
Good point
ABirdWalkedOnMyPillow
I think it was a show of power without burning/ransacking a city.
ChesusCrust
She wanted a tour de force without slaughtering hundreds of people while still hurting the Lannisters.
maymaysLOL
because she's a useless dumbass who makes horribly retarded decisions. if people/dragons stopped saving her she'd be dead in a day
tarmtarzan
Because it's for entertainment?
dannne
mynameiselliott
Why didn't she just scotch Euron
Ialwaysdownvotereposts
Euron was already drunk when he raided that fleet tbh.
GatoMamalon
Cheers euron
Scorch*
k4FoodSmasher
Euron would enjoy a Scotch!
UnclaimedBaggage
She still needs the Dothraki. They are a culture build on nomadic movement and raids. They were probably bored at the castle.
So to keep them tame she brings them with her to soothe their appetites for battle until the "real" battle begins.
Mastahkeef
Not like she lost the gold though. It would have only melted together.
NocturnalGreed
When that scene started, they stated the gold was already in Kings Landing. All of those carta were just food
There wouldnt have been a line without the dothraki threat first.
Azmoten
I view it as a shock and awe move on her part. Lannisters are like "Oh hey some Dothraki, form up....OH FUCK A DRAGON FUCKFUCKFUCK."
pawdraig
All about entertainment and no tactical value. It's probably very easy to see campfires and torches from above at night.
RandomImgurian
Someone on reddit pointed out that she intentionally went for the food, to weaken King's Landing since they're about to lay siege on it.
ChainmailleAddict
Yeah but if she took the food (which she needs) then it would've had the same affect
Mabalzrkold
We don't even know if she burned everything. So many people are jumping to conclusions.
ItsOtterMadnessInHereCapn
Because she is an intimidator, she wanted to show the power of her armies. She's making her first appearance on a dragon, so naturally 1/2
DisgruntledVeteran
To blood her army.
DarthReznor
She ain't exactly a master strategist in case you've yet to notice
AnExistingBadlyPhotoshoppedPhotoofMichaelCeraEveryday
Because light infantry doctrine isn't in the tech tree till the imperial age.
whyWontKeiraKnightleyReturnMyPhoneCalls
why didn't she go after the gold? without the iron bank cersei'd be well and truly fucked
Surbies
Well a dragon might not be able to take specific commands. More see that kill them. Not sure a dragon understands strategy.
LordOfTheRingDings
All attention focused on her and Drogon = every archer firing and probably killing them, whereas distracting the fighting force via 1/2
Dothraki and then appearing from behind in a storm of flame and rage and destroying the food and supplies they'd need to survive a siege 2/3
Means they got psychological victories in several places. 1)Torching their food means early starvation which pisses people off, making them
easy to manipulate with the promise of survival following surrender. 2) The breaking of their lines by what most of Westeros considers
5/ to be the "savage and uneducated" Dothraki which undermines the planning abilities of their command and the strength of their forces.
9/ pressure on the Lannisters forces and the citizens in general, who might see it as a return to the old, rightful rulers.
7/ brings forth the cultural memory of Aegon and Balerion the Black Dread, which has the potential of breaking the will of the opposition
8/ without having to risk more of her forces. I can only imagine finding riders for Rhaegal and Viserion will increase that psychological
6/ Finally, Dany's appearance is greatly symbolic, not only in her riding a dragon to easily wipe out a large force, but Drogon being black
ButtsMcGee86
Maybe to show that the Dothraki can still break their lines as well, which they did other than the one spot that was burnt by the dragon.
greyspears
Burn the grain and starve them out. What would she do with it? have her army transport in back. Too risky, just burn it.
She wants it to be a big show, why end things quickly when you can make a big fuss about it. Speak softly and carry a big stick right? 2/2
Bingo. Dont kill em all, leave enough alive to spread the tale and the fear.
Honestly though, everyone is giving her so much shit. Not only that, but the amount of "women are unfit to rule" comments is staggering.
Fuck em'.
dembonz00
Even the white walkers in the first season let one survive to tell the tale.
vvonneguts
Easier to take out a dragon when the entire enemy force is trained on it. Dothraki distraction
Also true.
MmmPeaches
But think about it, would there be nice lines of soldiers if there was no threat of Dothraki charging at them?
I wound't burn the supplies like she did, but maybe there's a reason for doing so. Maybe she needs to stay mobile after that fight
Yea. They are close to Kings Landing, which the front of that caravan was already inside. They'd need to raze and run.
popopocelot
I dunno why the other two didn't go fight also. Like hey mom's burning shit up let's go too. Could've left the army back in the castle.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
only one rider?
1. Lack of riders for the dragons. 2. Lack of budget for the scene
Sc00ba5teeve
That's a tremendous risk; even not knowing about the scorpions, committing all three to a non-critical skirmish is bad strategy.
TheLofinator451
She didn't take all three to show that she only needs one
Aegean only fielded all three in the same place once.
Aegon*
peskyboner
Yeah, but it was in the Aegean
NastyLad
And wasn't his sisters riding them at that time?
Yep. All had riders.
igneus
Budget wouldnt allow for that much carnage
Probably out of fear of not being able to control them once they get started.
Prometh3An
Because there is only one rider...duh
MitchBeaucannon
She could have her servant (what's her name?) try to ride one. Tyrion obv. isn't her most trusted advisor atm.
Only Targaryens have ridden dragons and I think would continue to do so. Maybe it's the blood that connects them. So maybe Jon might?
Does that mean he also gets a fuckton of titles he can recite evey time he meets s/o new?
RedClaws23
I would've liked it if the dragons aged more like traditional dragons, being smart but not very strong for several decades and only achievin
CometLaHal
the space of time between them hatching and getting to westeros is a couple years i believe. pretty fast growth rate. prolly shorter life /1
g really destructive power after centuries. This seems like instant gratification
Kierbear2g
yeah that'd make for a cool strategic value in this story *jerkoff motion*
span than most dragons from other fantasy stuff 2/2
DefinetlyNotObsessed
They aren't done growing apparently they are basically in their mid teens
It's just a common cop-out in Sci-Fi / Fantasy for anything non-human that is born on the show to age super fast and be independent almost i
mmediately. It's just weak writing, and not the fault of the show, really
Tempcore
There is no "traditional" dragon. Each fantasy world is different. And they have to serve Dany, not her great-great-great-grandchildren...
There *is* a traditional dragon. The dragon type passed by oral and narrative tradition for centuries in European culture. It's literally a
product of tradition. How is that not traditional?
Nobody ever went into specifics about the dragons then. Also those stories changed every time they were told pretty much.
aufdie
Umm... dragons were part of the "tradition" in other parts of the world much earlier than in Europe.
Well that's not entirely true. There are other traditional creatures that have been termed dragon when translated into English, but the word
did not originally describe them or their characterization. Also, the European dragon myth tradition can be traced back to the Mesopotamian
flamingflamingo
They really did grow up fast... what's it been, like, a year?
Kargathia
Closer to a decade. Especially the show likes to go and skip months of real time without notice.
So arya's like in her 20s now?
Arya was 11 in the first book, so yea, around 20.
But I thought they were older in the series
They didn't mention age in the series - just chose actors that looked older. Matches our perspective of maturity at certain ages better.
ZebbyIsWitty
Brrrrrrtttt
hiddenwolfeyes
TheCheapSeats
When the army runs out of food, Dany does he smart things and burns the carts full of food
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RXJ235231
And yes I upvoted you.
VoiceOfVerisimilitude
He'll probably die from that shoulder scratch, just like Drogo ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
e351
Maybe I'm slow but I worry the arrow was poison tipped. If you land one in a dragon you wouldn't need to worry too much about precise aim.
Talmorean
"Fuck yo grain shipment" - Drogon.
joeycannoli
One of the best episodes of the series thus far, IMO
kaleber
Your opinion is fact
HoldingAccount
I find battle scenes a bit boring to watch.
timberrrrrrr
Season, yes. Series, no.
zdriver7
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Acrage
TimmyDans
I think Dany gotta little mad king in her
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
IDidntKnowICouldChangeMyNameNowICanPost
Solid Reign of Fire gif
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Thanks.
v
InqDeth
@ your username
domenick91
Being a tactician on the other hand. Ehhh Danny you need some helpin hands
HoldingAccount
What happened to no spoilers policy of Imgur community?
canariomojadoChief
This may have been one of my favorite episodes ever... crazy crazy show
umbreon089
What show is this from? I fucking love dragons and need to know.
HoldingAccount
Game of Thrones
umbreon089
Thanks! I had heard about Game of Thrones but didn't know it has dragons in it.
TinySupreme
This was a good battle scene but my favorite is the battle of the bastards.
GeoScienceMan
The battle of the bastards was better than a lot of movies I've paid to see in theaters
hateschimpanzees
Both were so good! Almost as good as when Joffrey kicks the bucket!
NotCanadianCalisse
Why didn't she initially attack the line from a flank? Burn the whole dang line before hitting the freight. Wouldn't need cavalry.
Tr1smag1stus
I bet now she realizes that she needs amour when going into battle. One well placed arrow would have ended her.
ninus
they wouldnt have made a straight line if the dothraki didnt charge. She used the dothrakis to tee up the lanister ass in spanking height
ifyouoralovedonehavebeendiagnosedwithmesotheliomayoumaybe
Because it's a TV show, and doing things the logical way is dumb.
DinoKebab
This is the correct answer.
Beepity
Burn a whole in their line, and cavalry can pour through it...also and more importantly, it was more visually dramatic.
Beepity
DAMMIT. *hole, not whole. It's the exact opposite of "whole," c'mon self...
BoozeHound001
She might not be the best strategist? Her battle plans are more like throw a dragon at it.
scottEkarate
I thought the same thing. The dothraki should've stood by on the hill top while she just torched the shit out of them. Air power.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
But then every archer and spearmen in the army would have been aiming at her, instead of having to death with dothraki hordes.
loma45
If all of the archers had nothing to worry about then it's far more likely she or the dragon gets injured by a lucky arrow.
scottEkarate
Good point
ABirdWalkedOnMyPillow
I think it was a show of power without burning/ransacking a city.
ChesusCrust
She wanted a tour de force without slaughtering hundreds of people while still hurting the Lannisters.
maymaysLOL
because she's a useless dumbass who makes horribly retarded decisions. if people/dragons stopped saving her she'd be dead in a day
tarmtarzan
Because it's for entertainment?
dannne
mynameiselliott
Why didn't she just scotch Euron
Ialwaysdownvotereposts
Euron was already drunk when he raided that fleet tbh.
GatoMamalon
Cheers euron
mynameiselliott
Scorch*
k4FoodSmasher
Euron would enjoy a Scotch!
UnclaimedBaggage
She still needs the Dothraki. They are a culture build on nomadic movement and raids. They were probably bored at the castle.
UnclaimedBaggage
So to keep them tame she brings them with her to soothe their appetites for battle until the "real" battle begins.
Mastahkeef
Not like she lost the gold though. It would have only melted together.
NocturnalGreed
When that scene started, they stated the gold was already in Kings Landing. All of those carta were just food
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
There wouldnt have been a line without the dothraki threat first.
Azmoten
I view it as a shock and awe move on her part. Lannisters are like "Oh hey some Dothraki, form up....OH FUCK A DRAGON FUCKFUCKFUCK."
pawdraig
All about entertainment and no tactical value. It's probably very easy to see campfires and torches from above at night.
RandomImgurian
Someone on reddit pointed out that she intentionally went for the food, to weaken King's Landing since they're about to lay siege on it.
ChainmailleAddict
Yeah but if she took the food (which she needs) then it would've had the same affect
Mabalzrkold
We don't even know if she burned everything. So many people are jumping to conclusions.
ItsOtterMadnessInHereCapn
Because she is an intimidator, she wanted to show the power of her armies. She's making her first appearance on a dragon, so naturally 1/2
DisgruntledVeteran
To blood her army.
DarthReznor
She ain't exactly a master strategist in case you've yet to notice
AnExistingBadlyPhotoshoppedPhotoofMichaelCeraEveryday
Because light infantry doctrine isn't in the tech tree till the imperial age.
whyWontKeiraKnightleyReturnMyPhoneCalls
why didn't she go after the gold? without the iron bank cersei'd be well and truly fucked
Surbies
Well a dragon might not be able to take specific commands. More see that kill them. Not sure a dragon understands strategy.
LordOfTheRingDings
All attention focused on her and Drogon = every archer firing and probably killing them, whereas distracting the fighting force via 1/2
LordOfTheRingDings
Dothraki and then appearing from behind in a storm of flame and rage and destroying the food and supplies they'd need to survive a siege 2/3
LordOfTheRingDings
Means they got psychological victories in several places. 1)Torching their food means early starvation which pisses people off, making them
LordOfTheRingDings
easy to manipulate with the promise of survival following surrender. 2) The breaking of their lines by what most of Westeros considers
LordOfTheRingDings
5/ to be the "savage and uneducated" Dothraki which undermines the planning abilities of their command and the strength of their forces.
LordOfTheRingDings
9/ pressure on the Lannisters forces and the citizens in general, who might see it as a return to the old, rightful rulers.
LordOfTheRingDings
7/ brings forth the cultural memory of Aegon and Balerion the Black Dread, which has the potential of breaking the will of the opposition
LordOfTheRingDings
8/ without having to risk more of her forces. I can only imagine finding riders for Rhaegal and Viserion will increase that psychological
LordOfTheRingDings
6/ Finally, Dany's appearance is greatly symbolic, not only in her riding a dragon to easily wipe out a large force, but Drogon being black
ButtsMcGee86
Maybe to show that the Dothraki can still break their lines as well, which they did other than the one spot that was burnt by the dragon.
greyspears
Burn the grain and starve them out. What would she do with it? have her army transport in back. Too risky, just burn it.
ItsOtterMadnessInHereCapn
She wants it to be a big show, why end things quickly when you can make a big fuss about it. Speak softly and carry a big stick right? 2/2
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Bingo. Dont kill em all, leave enough alive to spread the tale and the fear.
ItsOtterMadnessInHereCapn
Honestly though, everyone is giving her so much shit. Not only that, but the amount of "women are unfit to rule" comments is staggering.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Fuck em'.
dembonz00
Even the white walkers in the first season let one survive to tell the tale.
vvonneguts
Easier to take out a dragon when the entire enemy force is trained on it. Dothraki distraction
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Also true.
MmmPeaches
But think about it, would there be nice lines of soldiers if there was no threat of Dothraki charging at them?
MmmPeaches
I wound't burn the supplies like she did, but maybe there's a reason for doing so. Maybe she needs to stay mobile after that fight
NocturnalGreed
Yea. They are close to Kings Landing, which the front of that caravan was already inside. They'd need to raze and run.
popopocelot
I dunno why the other two didn't go fight also. Like hey mom's burning shit up let's go too. Could've left the army back in the castle.
CommanderWilliamTRiker
only one rider?
Azmoten
1. Lack of riders for the dragons. 2. Lack of budget for the scene
Sc00ba5teeve
That's a tremendous risk; even not knowing about the scorpions, committing all three to a non-critical skirmish is bad strategy.
TheLofinator451
She didn't take all three to show that she only needs one
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Aegean only fielded all three in the same place once.
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Aegon*
peskyboner
Yeah, but it was in the Aegean
NastyLad
And wasn't his sisters riding them at that time?
TheMajesticHarpyEagle
Yep. All had riders.
igneus
Budget wouldnt allow for that much carnage
NastyLad
Probably out of fear of not being able to control them once they get started.
Prometh3An
Because there is only one rider...duh
MitchBeaucannon
She could have her servant (what's her name?) try to ride one. Tyrion obv. isn't her most trusted advisor atm.
Prometh3An
Only Targaryens have ridden dragons and I think would continue to do so. Maybe it's the blood that connects them. So maybe Jon might?
MitchBeaucannon
Does that mean he also gets a fuckton of titles he can recite evey time he meets s/o new?
RedClaws23
I would've liked it if the dragons aged more like traditional dragons, being smart but not very strong for several decades and only achievin
CometLaHal
the space of time between them hatching and getting to westeros is a couple years i believe. pretty fast growth rate. prolly shorter life /1
RedClaws23
g really destructive power after centuries. This seems like instant gratification
Kierbear2g
yeah that'd make for a cool strategic value in this story *jerkoff motion*
CometLaHal
span than most dragons from other fantasy stuff 2/2
DefinetlyNotObsessed
They aren't done growing apparently they are basically in their mid teens
RedClaws23
It's just a common cop-out in Sci-Fi / Fantasy for anything non-human that is born on the show to age super fast and be independent almost i
RedClaws23
mmediately. It's just weak writing, and not the fault of the show, really
Tempcore
There is no "traditional" dragon. Each fantasy world is different. And they have to serve Dany, not her great-great-great-grandchildren...
RedClaws23
There *is* a traditional dragon. The dragon type passed by oral and narrative tradition for centuries in European culture. It's literally a
RedClaws23
product of tradition. How is that not traditional?
Tempcore
Nobody ever went into specifics about the dragons then. Also those stories changed every time they were told pretty much.
aufdie
Umm... dragons were part of the "tradition" in other parts of the world much earlier than in Europe.
RedClaws23
Well that's not entirely true. There are other traditional creatures that have been termed dragon when translated into English, but the word
RedClaws23
did not originally describe them or their characterization. Also, the European dragon myth tradition can be traced back to the Mesopotamian
flamingflamingo
They really did grow up fast... what's it been, like, a year?
Kargathia
Closer to a decade. Especially the show likes to go and skip months of real time without notice.
flamingflamingo
So arya's like in her 20s now?
Kargathia
Arya was 11 in the first book, so yea, around 20.
flamingflamingo
But I thought they were older in the series
Kargathia
They didn't mention age in the series - just chose actors that looked older. Matches our perspective of maturity at certain ages better.