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Apparently the gun jammed and didn't fire.
Sep 2, 2022 2:17 PM
WeirdAlisMySpiritUserName
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Apparently the gun jammed and didn't fire.
NOYLL
Good lord that's terrifying
Doobiedo3
That's some crack Secret Servicing right there.
Theg00dshepard
He could’ve drawn a mustache on her, wonder what happens with the entire security detail?
JacaByte
Fun fact, President Andrew Jackson had this happen to him twice in the same night
XXXSpork
Disturbing lack of security
lilmookieesquire
I was like, is that a squirtgun?
PrinceOfWhales
Wow! That's some Jack Ruby level insanity.
zysis
You need to watch that carefully over and over... Jack Ruby shooting was a stage show. -The props change mid-shoot. Watch it.
SeldonCrysis
What are the odds that she takes away the wrong life lesson from this?
Dasnekones
I present to you, guns bought on the black market and why pro gun arguments are shit.
LordNoKids
Ladies face would have been gone, so damn fortunate
ariania
looking at a few other clips and the movement of everyone around, it sure seems this was planned on a higher level.
marplanauta
You are right, to distract the people of the crooked Vice P. who should be in jail!!
CannotBeBanned
Isn't she up on multiple charges of corruption?
Moominator
According to my argentinian girlfriend, this lady will be having more interactions like this
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Cristina Fernández de Kirchner is better known as the former two-term president who succeeded her late husband Néstor.
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristina_Fernández_de_Kirchner
marplanauta
Also she is known as the number one thief of Argentina. This was staged to distract people!!
ByThePowerOfSCIENCE
Maybe. Let's just remember that a prosecutor was murdered shortly after denouncing her.
Jatok
Holy fuck
ADegenFromUpcountry
Bodyguards were asleep on the job
hjf2011
Actually the people are their supporters. They want to show how "nice" she is that she doesn't need bodyguards or armored cars, because >
hjf2011
everyone loves her. Welp, there goes your dose of reality.
ADegenFromUpcountry
Every high-ranking politician has bodyguards, for eventualities like this...
hjf2011
And yet, today she went for a walk "around the neighborhood".
Titilve74
God Damn SHITTY bodyguards... ???
RalphH
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/01/world/americas/cristina-kirchner-attack.html
BlueskydragonFX
Yay paywalled.
PowerPedant
Yay deleted cookies.
vudak
Assassin *rolls a 1*
Verbalstunts
OlemGolem
In melee? That's also with disadvantage and might provoke an opportunity attack.
metalrulercid
That legit made me api my coffee out +1
CongratsYouAreHereNow
Aspirate posterior to internal
greakel
can you explain how you "Application Programming Interface" your coffee?
Phinalize
POST API/SpitCoffee
RandAIFlagg
500
ILiekToCookAndBake
And doesn't have reliable talent yet either with a low low int mod.
ThriceGreat
reliable talent doesn't impact attack rolls. A nat 1 is an automatic miss no matter what during combat.
Enoan
Reliable talent doesn't do you any good for attack rolls.
blaghart
You don't necessarily need to make an attack roll for this kind of assassination. Any more than you would to install a bomb someplace hidden
StupidSheepJohn
Is it a real gun? Or a toy?
eastend666
Don't they plan for things like this?
hjf2011
No. She is going to be tried for corruption. These people have been camping outside her house to show "support". Think MAGA, but far worse.
ArenJ6
I wouldn't say far worse, but yeah. At least guns are not readily available.
hjf2011
Guns are readily available in Argentina. It's not difficult to legally buy one, it's just that people aren't into it as much as americans. >
hjf2011
we do have "gun nuts" and they're as crazy as the american ones. Illegal arms are really easy to get, but may be shit just like this one.
PoliticsGivesMeDKweeF
Reddit comments says water gun....not SME
hjf2011
It's a BERSA Model 64.
DerkatBaron
You would think that Argentina might manufacture better quality firearms with all of the German nationals running around.
hjf2011
says the american with literal nazis in the GOP?
Thorketil
Reddit comments were wrong.
annoyedOnion
I know nothing of guns but why have there been so many assassination attempts where the guns don't work?
Remmon1
There was an audible pop when he pulled the trigger, so my money is on cheap/improperly stored ammo causing a squib round. Or luck.
CapitalNick
The slight pop was the book or whatever she dropped hitting the ground and picked up at the end of the video. Weird chain of events.
dghughes
Probably safety on, or cartridge not chambered, they're insane.
RecurringNightmare
most wannabe-assassins plan to dispose of the weapon, which means the cops will kinda surely find it, so it mustnt be traceable, so they >
RecurringNightmare
> need to buy it illegally from kind of shady sources and dont wanna spend too much money on it...in countries with stricter gun laws than >
RecurringNightmare
> the US its kind of difficult to test fire a gun as its loud and gun ranges wanna see paperwork, so they can only visually check the gun<<<
enybi
Most countries have some form of gun licensing, making it harder for these people to get good quality firearms.
TheRicM
Don't know either but it could be b/c a lot of the times, it's not a trained person, but a disgruntled person who doesn't know how to use it
TacticoolWolf
Honestly its better off they don't know
thewiggins
people probably are not going to test fire such a weapon
rumandbass
Tinfoil hat version: staged for political points.
BossVarriack
Look through history. Often a lot of assassination attempts are done by some schmuck who was paid off by a third party for cheap. Hire 1/2
BossVarriack
Enough schmucks and one is bound to get lucky. Or it's a small group or individual whose been screwed by the target and as such lost 2/3
BossVarriack
Everything and so are working with an effectively nonexistent budget. Hell, the biggest most famous instance of this led to WWI 3/3
in9119iwas
real assassins toss people out of hospital windows.
lurkerconvert
…or fall out a window while moving a bathtub and then the tub lands on their head. OOPS
kharybdis
My comrade, you are surely confused. He clearly fell. Come to the hospital and I can show you how dangerous hospital windows are.
Northwindlowlander
A lot of people know about the assassination of the Archduke Franz Ferdinand. But most people don't know what a complete fiasco it was...
Northwindlowlander
Of the 6 assassins, only 1 managed to act as the motorcade passed- he blew up the wrong car, then took cyanide and threw himself into the
Northwindlowlander
river to drown- but the cyanide was old and expired and the river was almost dry so he didn't even manage to kill himself
Northwindlowlander
Finally Gavrilo Princip decided to wait outside a cafe to try a second attempt. The convoy wasn't supposed to pass him, but due to a mixup
Northwindlowlander
ended up driving down his street. As they passed him, one of the security detail stopped the motorcade as it was on the wrong road. The
Mec26
I assume most assassins don’t know how to properly clean their gun, just grab one off the black market for max anonymity and it’s shit,
PigsCanJump
It's like Snatch with Boris and Tommy. "Heavy is good, heavy is reliable, if it doesn't work you can always hit him with it"
Mec26
But I have no 1st hand experience with that.
AntiProtonBoy
Just keep selling shit guns, your secret is safe with me.
ILikeSmellingMyOwnFarts
dizzyturtle
I have a feeling if this was in American and not Argentina the gun would have not have only worked properly but bought legally.
Callistan
Not necessarily - multiple assassination attempts on US presidents have been thwarted by improper firearm use/maintenance. Most recently 1/2
Callistan
2/2 Squeaky Fromme (of the Manson Family) failed to assassinate Gerald Ford in 1975 because it wasn't loaded correctly.
Callistan
Bonus: In 1835, Richard Lawrence attempted to kill Andrew Jackson with two pistols. Both misfired, and Jackson nearly beat the guy to death
dizzyturtle
Some interesting facts you know. You should make a post and tag me if you do.
diesel01
Misfired. Usually faulty ammo or a hammer strike problem. A jam is a different thing.
Sayagain
Double jam or sometimes the triple jam depending on how forced it is...
StephanNotStephan
Almost seems like they forgot the bullets
Treblaine
The US army found the number 1 cause of service rifles failing: not loaded.
NKato
Or safety was on.
c64masterrace
No, in the original audio you can hear 2 distinct clicks. Almost at the same time a thud from a dropped book can be heard, which prompts/
c64masterrace
her to hold her head and duck, when you see her again she is holding the book that was dropped (it's her book which she's been autographing)
c64masterrace
She never noticed the gun, she kept her show act smiling and waving after the fact while the police was trying to apprehend the attacker
Trelfar
Or even forgot to chamber a round. Dumb mistakes due to stress even affect would-be assassins.
Sayagain
Ill be the ignorant sob. I'm surprised Argentina has a female VP. I also have no idea if she is a good or bad person.
marplanauta
She is a fucking piece of shit who stole money with her crooked husband from the poor ignorant people who think she is like Evita.
brassknucklenerd
A left-wing populist, it seems. Decent but imperfect? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cristina_Fern%C3%A1ndez_de_Kirchner
hjf2011
Wikipedia is patrolled by "kirchnerists". None of the articles about argentinian politicians are fair.
jdregius92
Allegedly massively corrupt but that seems to be standard for all politicians there from what my Argentine friend says.
hjf2011
That woman was president TWICE, from 2008 to 2015. Argentina had a female president way back in 1976. Also she's corrupt as FUCK and she >
hjf2011
has oh-my-god-so-many court cases against her it's riduculous. The money she and her people stole is estimated to be in the billions of USD.
Sayagain
She single?
ChurlishSunshine
Her husband was also president and he died, and she's blaming him for the crimes she's going down for.
ChurlishSunshine
And also a prosecutor was murdered hours before he was going to testify against her, so if you like them dangerous, buena suerte.
Sayagain
So... she single?
Dezzto
loved among the poor and workers. hated by the rich and the media.
positiveleroy
Likely staged assassination attempt*. This is a move straight out of Bolsonaro’s playbook.
Subsound
positiveleroy
DeeDoubleYu
Well you didn't say for sure, which is more than can be said for most of the comments. I suppose we'll know more soon.
Bogatyr92
I thought so at first but now it looks like it was some crazy attention seeking dude.
marplanauta
It was staged by high rank people in the goverment. The guy is a patsy. This was to distract the people of the 12 years in jail she deserve.
BumbleBeeBeardedGingerBear
Shes a corrupt fascist autocrat. I get that. But im glad the gun jammed. Shes on trial. The country deserves that justice, not assassination
Dezzto
fascist autocrat lol thats so stupid.
BumbleBeeBeardedGingerBear
Thats what other posters are saying like "nah, its ok, shes a fascist autocrat" ??
Dezzto
that is just not true
BumbleBeeBeardedGingerBear
Just repeating whats being said by other commentors.
nothingtolurkhere
She is so fucken lucky to be alive.
SexBeerGamingCarsMoviesCoffeeBurgersCats
Given the fact she's an Argentinian politician, chances are she dodgy as fuck. I'm not going to back the up with facts or shit tho
Bogatyr92
She's lucky she is not rotting in jail and probably never will.
TresusIbor
FOUND THE GUNMAN!
CongratsYouAreHereNow
Wat?
WarlockSniper
She is under investigation for corruption when she was president.
BlueskydragonFX
Got a feeling some high hats wants her 6 feet down under before she takes them down with her.
Bogatyr92
Not only that but the most obsene and obvious level of corruption. it's not even funny. The cult following is Trump-like.
c64masterrace
Bogatyr92
She is under numerous investigations for corruption in Argentina. She has multiplied her riches absurdly being in office. Textbook corrupt.
Fishbong
How corrupt do you have to be to get investigated for corruption in Argentina?
CongratsYouAreHereNow
La puta que a ella pare
Bogatyr92
The correct wording would be: La puta que la parió. That was pretty close tho.
PrettyDouglas
So is this an actual attempt to do what all of imgur has been asking for, with all this talk of bringing out the guillotines?
Bogatyr92
Sort of. The dude that tried to do it is not exactly right in the head.
WarlockSniper
Sort of. If you're going to do it, do it right or not at all. And she is actually facing jailtime, getting concequences.
usernamesarereallystupid
Looks like they could use some practice on reaction time.
billpilgrim
Agreed. They didn't even move her from that location for ages!
wodensday
Now do hinckley on reagan and bremer on wallace and see how well the us does in the exact same sitch
cepacolusmaximus
They just got some, I guess
IWasACatAllAlong
The ping was so high.
photoleon
this is super staged!
thelovebelowzero
Not too bright are you?
photoleon
explain —no te parece raro la eficiencia policíaca en Argentina?
svga
it is interesting she grabbed her head and fell down but the gun didn't APPEAR to go off??
PectorialMuscles
Obviously it didn't fucking go off, it was an attempted assassination, you can guess the key word. She didn't have her brains blown out.
PectorialMuscles
It's interesting that kids hide under desks BEFORE there's even a gunshot! Crazy!
PectorialMuscles
/s btw. Ffs /s
potentiallyunsafe
What are you expecting?
SmokyDoggg
I dunno usually secret service dive and get you down. Good thing someone grabbed the gun or else he could've had a second chance and the gun
SmokyDoggg
might have gone off the second time. Or he'd have figured out the safety was on or something.
usernamesarereallystupid
My security detail not running from the other side of the car.
TheRicM
That's not really reaction time, that's more planning and awareness
DoctahGhostly
Let’s see how fast you react in a noisy thick crowd. Jesus Christ.
usernamesarereallystupid
Mine wouldn’t be the fastest, but I definitely would be next to the detail I’m supposed to be securing.
Digimontana
Terribly, but I'm also not a paid security detail for VIPs.
DoctahGhostly
Security guards are human. There are bright lights, tons of people, everyone is wearing dark clothing, no barricades. This was a disaster.
Digimontana
Then if there's no difference between me and them why even have them?
barnwolf
I think they mostly exist to prevent people from groping and mobbing the VIP's.
DanOrtega
At that distance there is very little anyone can do. Happened to Lennon, mexican candidate Colosio in the 90s, also was it Reagan? Bush?
Ronin42
It a shame they failed with Reagan bc the world might have been a better place.
CitizenClam
Reagan, it's where we get that picture of the Secret Service with an Uzi
DanOrtega
thanks :)
BlackHatInc
At that range, A hatchet would have been a better choice.
barnwolf
Statistically she's more likely to die of heart disease than from a gun. Just give her a fatty burger with a large soda.
chut7
Or all those nail clippers that airport security has confiscated.
HeirElfSquire
Could have poked an eye out with better results
vudak
'with a fucking *PENCIL*'
sambaah05
95/100 times the gun would have the biggest effect. Math says use the gun. I say don't use anything.
windtunnelscienceguy
like, a bare knuckle boxing assassination ? cause that would be badass, but probably unsucessful
iLikeRainyDays
Ah yea the nothing strategy of assassination. Murder by letting her die of old age, the perfect crime.
sambaah05
Most of the times a gun works, so not sure what your point is. See:all the mass shootings. But OK.
DSREX
still on a personal goal to not kill anyone, every day is a new record.
WarlockSniper
Same. But some people make it really tempting to break that streak
DSREX
I am zen like in my calm. And running away is a good survival option.