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Myrddin251
Umm, I am kinda on Steak Ums side. I like Neil but Poetic he is not. He just is Value Brand Sagan, lol
1eudaemonia
Ive always seen Neils statement as the science is true no matter what but our understanding of it evolves.
hankovich
Watch out Neil, we've got a comment section full of badasses over here.
HereIsThere
I find science entertainers to be tiresome at times.
LetumComplexo
Seeing a brand complain a famous person said something for attention is the most ironic thing I’ve seen on twitter since Trump got banned.
LetumComplexo
Literally the only reason they’re making that complaint is for the free publicity. They’re doing exactly what they’re complaining about.
alexcoldt
Science represents the truth to the best of humanity's knowledge.
JessicasJonesing
Neil does love to say that in pretty much every single interview he does. It's his version of "git er done" at this point.
Cebrail
The thing is, while steaks ain’t wrong, neither is he. It’s not belief that makes science wrong, it’s new facts uncovered by more science
Cebrail
Not wishful thinking like “god made man 3000 years ago”
SilverHornet
'bible science' starts with the (hillarious) answers, then reinvents perception of facts to 'support' it, ignoring anything else.
CraftyGiant
IonlycommentTroyandAbedgifs
ThunderChief00
I think there has been some kind of mistake
trelf
CAKES AND PIES! CAKES AND PIES!
B166ERMaximus
I like Neil... but I also saw this tweet and was like...
DeinEggo
coolusernameperson
Between your teeth. 80s we’re cool. I miss cocaine.
trelf
Isn't it feckin’ insane that campaign was more than 30 years ago, and it's still in our heads? Talk about effective advertising.
AnonOmis1000
The only reason I know about it is from some show on fast food.
HeyILikeDogs
Yeah Neil sucks at Twitter. His books are still pretty good though. And he's solid on the cosmos reboot. But yeah, his tweets... Oof.
Dionysus187
He talked about this before. He purposely shapes things into digestible "soundbites" because long explanations dont get as much traction
zooumberg8
I love the cosmos reboot. I don't think he's as good as Carl Sagan, but the new format is fantastic.
CaptGunpowder
"The cumulative knowledge gleaned through decades of trial and error and vicious peer review, is largely correct whether or not you agree."
CaptGunpowder
Is basically what Steak company wants to argue against here
binaryspike
Either you missed the point or I missed your point.
CaptGunpowder
I'm pretty sure I got the point. What do you think is the point?
LgPhoot
1/The hilarity of this is that in Neil's, "Science in America" video, he says the line in his tweet AS WELL AS the concept steak-umms says.
LgPhoot
2/ even worse, they point they mention about how it's ever changing and therefore is often wrong is what the practice of science IS.
LgPhoot
3/ to quote Neil "one of the great things about science is that it is an entire exercise in finding what is true." If you find FACTS that...
LgPhoot
4/ disprove or further prove the current most emergent truth, than congratulations you are a scientist, because that's what science is.
LgPhoot
5/ I agree people glorify Neil as the science messiah, but trying to use the excuse that what science is makes it wrong, is just hypocrisy.
Whatwhatsomethingbutt
Steak-umms point (Tweet not shown here) is that if we just say "Science is true" without nuance, people see the part where 1/2
LgPhoot
6/ the link to science in America youtube.com/watch?v=8MqTOEospfo
modis
The point NDT’s quote is making is basically; the earth is round, your belief that it isn’t can’t alter that truth.
DrDownunder
Finally someone who didn't miss the point
Albatross267
garyoldmansdiary
Science is true because it is very careful about what it discerns as true. See: Theory of gravity. The GOP and Steak-umms apparently not so.
whitey211
Science douche shut-the-fuck-down by frozen rat meat company.
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
The fuck is a Steak-Um??
Dionysus187
dog shit themed fruit leather
TheMadMechanic
Exactly!
somnif
Brand of frozen thin-sliced beef, typically used for things like Philly cheesesteak
EroticZombiePants
Thin sliced frozen steaks.
robotr0b0t
Apparently it's this:
DefinitelyNotMadeOfBees
Good lord that looks gross
robotr0b0t
The umm part of their name makes more sense now. "Is this steak?" "Umm... close enough."
flyingfishstick
Beef sheets.
AuditorInCharge
A company that sells packages of thin cut frozen beef product that is fried up to make Philly cheese steaks. https://www.steakumm.com/
Counterfit
Never say that to anyone from Philly
BraveStrawberry
NDT has to appeal to laymen who often cling to catch phrases, so yes he will say things like this. He wants people to make decisions based
CandidGamera
Unscientific statements promote science real well, sure. /s What you're thinking of is didactic reduction, the art of simplifying things ->
CandidGamera
<- while, and this is key, remaining scientifically accurate. NdGT is a terrible teacher who's less interested in imparting knowledge and ->
CandidGamera
<- more in showing off how smart and witty he is, and didactic reduction would make him sound less superior.
BraveStrawberry
on facts, not feelings or religion. While his statement isn’t accurate, isn’t not really incorrect.
stja
He's the ACKCHYUALLY guy in most his tweets. Condescending, actively trying to appear superior, kinda dumb.
stja
He's not trying to educate anyone, he's just trying to make sure everyone knows how SMART and EDUCATED and SOPHISTICATED he is.
SilverHornet
Basically most people are idiots, or at best, little time to think. They're bombed with soundbite crap but if this one makes it through >
SilverHornet
then it's vastly better than most. Those who know better aren't the target audience.
M1ssPlace
If he really wanted people to listen to scientists he would stop being such an insufferable prick. What he wants is self-aggrandizement.
BraveStrawberry
Yeah, because that’s totally worked in the past, eh? Everyone always listens to the nice, quiet scientists and never, ever disrespect them
M1ssPlace
Your point? Because people don't have 100% success with reasoned persuasion we should use even less successful snark and derision?
BraveStrawberry
Seems to me he’s got more recognition than most scientists. Post like this aimed to hate on him only serve to give him more. He’s doing fine
M1ssPlace
I meant successful in teaching science literacy, not his personal level of notoriety. If he cared about improving the current distrust and..
BraveStrawberry
or their work. It’s only scientists with shitty personalities we hate. Hey! Don’t pick up that history book!
Dhatudhatu
He has referred to people being upset about school shootings as people being "emotional" about "spectacles". Dude needs to be quiet.
Harryteeters
MacallanNeat
I usually get that same feel with corporation-involved Twitter wars, but tbh it doesn’t really apply here
Dionysus187
Literally every tweet they make is trying to drum up sales, if you think this is an earnest appeal for clarification you are a sucker
asmallcat
Yes it does. Steakums does not care about NDT. Steakums cares that yelling at NDT makes people think about Steakums.
Warhead42
I haven't forgotten how they went from daily posts combating COVID misinformation to complete silence during the BLM protests last year.
HughGDildeaux
Niel is a pompous asshat with some good views.
Gunslinger2071
Obviously he means the _conclusions_ that science leads us to are consistent with reality and don't require faith. Steak-ums want attention.
SilverHornet
That's the point of PR. They did a good job.
caerulakid
Not entirely sure dogpiling on a science communicator in a country in desperate need of scientific expertise is a “good job” but Ok.
SilverHornet
As PR, their job is promote the brand, we and others are now talking about it. The way they did it is pedantic and fussy though yes.
caerulakid
True enough, but I’m not entirely sure publicity at the expense of social capital is necessarily a favorable exchange anymore.
caerulakid
I’m not predisposed to ever buying Steak-Ums’s products, but they had a far higher chance of having me as a customer before I saw this.
ReaperNo1
Steak people are correct.
admiralcrackbar
Steak people are missing the point.
2fedditor
and ignored his elaborated answer that he posted before they even tweeted: https://twitter.com/neiltyson/status/1381199666172280832
MrJimmyRustles
The point is Neil Tyson drugged and raped another student in College at UT.
HelloToe
And doing it willfully. Just trying to make themselves look good by making Neil look bad.
Dionysus187
Steak-umm right now
darkhermes
Absolutely. As a college professor, this is the number one thing I teach my students - science is a process that is constantly refining.
sarikitty
That's the main reason we spend time learning about Aristotle, Ptolemy and Copernicus in middle school.
DrOsmium
Neil doesn't say any specific theory is true, but that science is true, which I would argue is correct.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
But you might not say it to rebuke a comment aimed at harmful politically-charged anti-science communities.
thewordofthedayis
Professor darkhermes spitting out the lazy rhetoric that anti-vaxxers and flat-earthers crave! Hurry up and die, old man!
Traja01
You should partner with communications students to work on science’s PR. Gotta come down from the ivory tower before the peasants raze it.
Sholk7
Neil is just kinda cunty. The Bill Maher example was spot on
LetumComplexo
Steak people are doing basically the same thing with that complaint as a way to generate free advertising.
JacobiH3rbshire
No. Steak people are being trolls. NDT is talking about RESULT of exercising Science, which eventually leads to truth...
LampLighterN7
People who try and make this point about science also deny climate change and talk about which race is superior. They’re not in good company
hairlessOrphan
Steak person took Philosophy 101 strictly for the edgelord ammo to bring to their job as social media manager for a frozen meat brand.
ActionJohnnie
I respect that
hairlessOrphan
200-level classes teach that science indexes on consistency with data, predictive power, reproducibility. Someone shoulda stayed in school.
SindarElla
Well, if you really want to get into it, they are both wrong, and both correct. By Steak's definition, then "truth" isn't "true" either,
ReaperNo1
Nope. It can absolutely discover individual truths while remaining a process full of mistakes. You and Neil are wrong.
Folius
Why are you this way
hotrodny
Wow...Schroedinger's Steak ppl :)
Midgarmerc
A schrodinger's steak. It is both rare and well done until it's cut open
brainfreez3
well its not "true" its "the truest" why do you think scientists always say 99.99% or whatever
SindarElla
Good point
ThePunishersVengefulBrother
It can never be, logically.
ButterfaceTaintClown
the word "true" can also mean straight, as in an arrow or a wheel is true. i am true to my word. science is honest, ergo science is true.
ButterfaceTaintClown
science is concerned with making statements, and then creating experiments to try to falsify those statements. if it fails to falsify those
ButterfaceTaintClown
statements, they become the truth.
ButterfaceTaintClown
e.g. my claim is that i have a 12 inch penis. science, "fetch the ruler!"
SindarElla
Otherwise how do you prove what is "true" other than through scientific process? At its core, the goal of science is truth. Though humans
SindarElla
And their methods are admittedly sometimes flawed.
haggerton
Erm, dunno if you went through highschool but there's a lot of proofs in math, and that's math not science. Truth =/= science, period.
SindarElla
Dunno if you went through high school, but how were those mathematic proofs discovered? Through scientific process.
Gyinagal
As someone with a math degree: no
SindarElla
And also as you said, those are math proofs. Science incorporates a lot of math, noteably because of math's reliability and stability, but
Sholk7
Thats just objectively not true. I know more on the science side but I also know some on the history of mathematics and what do you mean?
haggerton
Lmao what.
butterflybuttler221
But they're saying that science is the process not the true outcome. Its like calling the meat grinder a hamburger
W0lfsbl00d
This seems to be word semantics. The term "science" is used as "a set of established theories" vs being used as "the process itself"
butterflybuttler221
I agree. Im just saying that the steak person's definition is the later & so their definition doesn't exclude truth from being true as 1
SpendifferousLeo
Neil degrassi is kind of an ass. I've always been afraid to say it. Because I'm most likely a dumbass. But he's just so know it all. And
neverpostsoriginalcontent
I love the idea that there are dumbasses and then there are educated dumbasses, who are just plain asses.
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leejacobflores514833000
He's a scientist who thinks he's entertaining.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
No, he's an actual scientist and he does actual science, and he's good at it. Him trying to be the entertainer is what the problem is.
SindarElla
Yeah it's a shame he's so arrogant, otherwise he could have a much more positive impact on the world
SpendifferousLeo
Holier than thou, compared to some of the scientists I've worked with in ai... He seems fairly average. But I am no expert.
Foxsayy
Neil is an astrophysicist, but certainly not at the top of his field. His role is to be abridge between science and laymen. He could do more
CraftyGiant
It's ok dude, I have 12 years of college and Uni and agree. He's super smart, I'll give him that, but he's kind of an ass.
PhailRaptor
Being extremely smart and being an asshole are not mutually exclusive traits. And based on how much he enjoys dunking on people...
serpentinebaboo
Of course he’s smart, and I’m sure he’s a brilliant astrophysicist, but he pretends to be an expert on EVERYTHING, and he’s condescending.
HodgePodgekin
Any video where he’s especially condescending?
serpentinebaboo
The video of him talking about how great of an idea the Space Force is. Or literally this post. Scroll up.
Foxsayy
Thing about Niel is he's one of the EXTREMELY few science educators between ivory towers and the public. We need him but he could be better
Pooprocketpower
There are tons of excellent science communicators out there, they just don't have his platform
Foxsayy
That's the point though. He has the degrees and the background to be genuinely qualified, and he has clout and can hold your attention.
Pooprocketpower
People with the degrees and better PR talent are out there. They're just not promoted by whoever puts NDT on TV.
MrSlater
Some are kind of self publishing, Sean Carroll has an excellent podcast for example.
Foxsayy
I'd prefer a Carl Sagan, a Bill Nye, Richard Dawkins etc., but he's what we have right now. Science needs to connect with ppl desperately.
caerulakid
I agree with your spirit, but Dawkins and Nye are out there and have been less successful than NDT.
trelf
Oh shit. This isn't new, either: https://www.thewrap.com/steak-umm-reignites-twitter-beef-with-neil-degrasse-tyson/
TheSourceCode95
So you could say they're... having beef?
Summoner99
His reply to this dumb tweet of his is basically "well if you disagree with me, please red this article I wrote 4 years ago" and /2
Summoner99
that article is just a joke. I really think NDT is just a pretentious asshole.
CraftyGiant
https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dmkgz/neil-degrasse-tysons-tweets-are-so-bad-and-he-needs-to-go-away
ZOMGNO
Every bit of this. Yes.
IWasACatAllAlong
Man, this person really hates Neil, huh.
CraftyGiant
I honestly think platforming him pushes more people away from science than towards it. He's too arrogant and preachy about it.
Theotokoss
I have hated him since his douchery about philosophy, but this shit takes the cake
CraftyGiant
Takes a fair amount of douchbaggery to get a vice article about it.
Theotokoss
He is a dude I would never be left alone with, now I know why my gut told me that.
caerulakid
Did those rape allegations pan out? That was news to me, but this was from last February, so I’m hoping there’s been follow up.
CraftyGiant
No idea, but three accusations is kind of a lot of people to just be lying.
TheCoachAdair
Dang. People really hate science dude. I’ve always been enlightened and entertained. It be like that sometimes.
TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
NDT's really good when he's being Science Dude. He's great in the new Cosmos. But he can also be stubborn and abrasive in a not-sciency way.
stja
"Did you know it's not ACKCHYUALLY a leap when a leap year happens, the calendar just abruptly moves forward" and similar tweets are not [1]
stja
enlightening, they're just a mixture of incredibly condescending, actually kinda stupid, and groan inducing cringe. No, Neil, you are not[2]
stja
impressing anyone by reminding us there should be no sound in space in Star Wars. Everyone knows. No one cares.[3]
Kuiper
In my opinion both are right. Science isn't concrete. Heck, 30 years ago homosexuality was a mental illness. 10 years ago being trans was to
BubblesTheFish
Republicans are making anti-trans their big stance in 2022 and 2024
Counterfit
Username relevant, I guess.
dontrike
Homosexuality being a mental illness wasn't science, it was just bigoted people being ignorant and stupid. There was no "science" done.
Fasrill
Worse. It was bigoted, ignorant people in positions of political and legal power declaring it so arbitrarily.
ThatOtherMacAvoyWoman
Wasn’t homosexuality in the DSM-5 tho?
Dhatudhatu
Not the DSM-V. V is the latest version. I don't remember its history, but perhaps it was present in an earlier edition.
Kuiper
It was in DSM1-3, and transgender was recently removed in DSM-5
Syovere
The source doesn't change what the perception was at the time, though.
dontrike
Perception isn't "science" either. In fact it had more to do with religion than science in any way.
Syovere
It being considered a mental disorder meant that to many people, "gay = disorder" was scientific, which is part of the problem with taking /
Syovere
"science" on faith and assuming it's always right. it's not always scientific and even when it *is* it should be reevaluated over time.
infernalspectre
I mean, given that science is literally the collection and analysis of things we have perceived...
dontrike
They saw two people with the same genitals and went "THEY ARE EVIL!!!!" and in what way is that science?
Rayxzerox
He's not claiming 'scientists' are right no matter what, he's referring the systems and laws that exist regardless of our understanding.
c35000
TIL the American psychiatric assn is stupid and ignorant.
Pooprocketpower
This shouldn't be a surprise
caerulakid
They made their own citation style and you think they’re a bunch of humble geniuses?
c35000
False dilemma fallacy
dontrike
When it came to that? Yes.
c35000
Are all scientists who aren't right at one point stupid and ignorant?
caerulakid
Yes
dontrike
When it comes to something like the sexuality being evil and a mental disorder? Yes.
Rayxzerox
That's more of an example of human biases bleeding into our psych/social/medical systems
physicsisalwaysrelevant
It does it into other sciences as well. The guy that discovered washing hands prevented the spread of disease was ignored for nearly 40 >
physicsisalwaysrelevant
Years. Zeigler, one of the parties to model quarks, was blackballed and labeled a charlatan. Boltzmann was driven to suicide by constant>
physicsisalwaysrelevant
Denial and backlash.
Rayxzerox
definitely happens everywhere, just relating those fields specifically to the 'Homosexuality is a disorder' example
downvotespoliticalposts
Too*
Kuiper
140 character cap kek
downvotespoliticalposts
IMO=in my opinion
Winter23
The courts here will still try to take your kids if you're trans ?
Kuiper
No surprise there. It's still scary to be out as trans. The general public hasn't matured enough to accept trans people as normal yet.
shankelstoff
Where the hell is that?! My condolences
Winter23
SC, the courts try painting you as mentally unstable and unfit to be a parent if you're trans.
Winter23
So custody battles are really one sided for trans people. Hate this state.
shankelstoff
That's absolutely crazy! It's probably de facto a lot more like that than I realize here in Sweden, but at least it's not out in the open.
ItsOnlyKinkyDaFirstTime
Had nothing to do with science
Colopty
Medical science is a science. Turned out the science was way off the mark in that case, which is a good example of the refining process.
c35000
Open up DSM-1
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
"Science" if just being used as a shorthand, get over yourselves. Writing "There is an objective reality which we are able to study through>
drdildamesh
It's simpler than that. He's just using the word "science" in place of "cumulative evidence" to troll evangelicals and Facebook researchers.
Baelnorn
Brevity is wit.
SilverHornet
On Imgur you're then dragged into a deep chain of nitpicking about edge cases and semantics. Initial clarification is divine.
Baelnorn
Pedants abound.
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
a systematic, cooperative process of investigation and re-investigation and at this time we have good reason to believe we currently have >
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
the most accurate representation of that reality and should make our personal and public decisions though that lens" is too damn long
evangrumling5
Nah you can’t even prove you aren’t a figment of my imagination.
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
Step over here and say that
evangrumling5
*step
CulturallyEmbiggened
I like Neill DeGrasse Tyson but sometimes he's a little cringey when he gets too Bill Maher about things.
copingcabana
I agree. He can be a real dick sometimes. We should have a favorite scientist day. Mine is Feynman.
AprilSpectrum
I liked him until I learned what a creeper he is toward women
Penthesilean
100% cleared. The accusations were complete bullshit, but thanks for revealing your total lack of critical analysis skills.
AprilSpectrum
Weird how you assume to know exactly which cases of sexual harassment and assault were being referenced.
rockdoctor
His Twitter feed is unbearable. I liked NOVA though!
Icecoldfunk
He's just trying to reach a crowd conditioned to only respond to sound bites and to whom nuance is an anathema.
Hashbrown123
I will never forgive him for what he did to Pluto. The Sons of Pluto remember.
Counterfit
If Pluto is a planet, then so are a bunch of other Kuiper Belt objects that really shouldn't.
FEMAcampsarereal
Pluto knows what it did.
benreilly10
This is an excellent sentence.
CulturallyEmbiggened
Thank you, as someone who's never had very good luck at being sentenced, this means a lot.
PolarAntonyms
He really is, plus a sexual harasser
PolarAntonyms
Not liking the guy has nothing to do with recognizing three women came forward about it.
IAmDrBanner
I don't particularly like the guy either, but weren't those pure allegations that never got anywhere?
aFadingMemory
I don't want to stop caring. I really don't. But I can't go after a new public figure every single day. Can we just do the worst ones first?
PolarAntonyms
How tough it must be for you to hear about sexual harassment so much.
aFadingMemory
I'm not getting in a pissing match over whether I have the mental capacity for a new outrage every day.
parkerh17
Yeah and Bill Maher is just a massive sliver spoon cunt role playing as a respectable person.
AgamemnonsMemes
He's smart but he's also a dork that shouldn't be in the spotlight as much as he is
so1oeclipse
Wait 'til you hear about Dawkins!...
CulturallyEmbiggened
Lol Dawkins is a good guy at heart, but I feel the same way about him. Brilliant evolutionary biologist, but he annoys me when he talks.
aleister94
yeah but this criticism is pedantic we all know he's referring to conservative anti intellectualism propaganda and he's right call it out
HelloToe
funkhomie
Shallow and pedantic. Mmm.
Counterfit
Quite
fullblownSatan
The criticism is that in his effort to do that he oversimplifies and proselytizes, with a healthy dose of self-aggrandizing. I think
erischilde
This. Pr, and all rhetoric, has to respect or at least pander to its audience. You can tell about logic and facts all you want, but if /1
erischilde
Your audience is the dissenters, you have to access them on their level. If your audience is already convinced, what are you succeeding at?
fullblownSatan
That only works if you're able to choose your audience. If the entire world is your audience, diluting your rhetoric is pointless
Traja01
Yep science has a PR problem it needs to be more accessible to the public. Steak-umms are delicious but misguided here.
W0lfsbl00d
Underfunded schools, internet disinformation and billion dollar corporations paying off political bad-faith actors sure hasn't helped.
Traja01
It sure hasn’t.
Foxsayy
Preach. The days of trusting the word from the ivory towers is no more.
W0lfsbl00d
Scientists are the ivory tower? Theyre the ones with billions? Not big oil and big business?
Traja01
Ivory tower has traditionally referred to intellectualism and academia, not wealth.
Foxsayy
To clarify, i meant that trust has been eroded in science and our institutions and that science needs to connect more with laymen.
blerghcity
The accuracy of your words matter. Especially as you become a spokesperson of your field. I say that as a scientist, this is a PR issue
ElSephiroth
To be fair, the word science is both the method to get knowledge and the knowledge it self. I think both Neil and Steak are right.
BreathBeStank
I would argue that Neil's words are accurate. Science seeks truth. You are still allowed to perform experiments and dictate the outcome 1/2
BreathBeStank
As seen. "I salted the plant and the plant died was an experimental fact". The theoretical part is "I salted the plant causing it to die"
blerghcity
Science does seek truth, but Neil didn't say that. He said it WAS truth. A small but important inaccuracy
Dustorn
Except that's not what he said. There was a time when science said that everything wrong with you could be chalked up to bad humours. 1/2
ElSephiroth
That was not science though as it did not rely upon facts. Also, a theory can be wrong but observable facts are not.
Dustorn
That was science, but was it true?
mazelt0vc0ckt4il
He's one of those guys where it just went to his head. He isn't a bad guy & he started out wanting to promote science & make it cool
mazelt0vc0ckt4il
But people started to worship him like a god & he transformed from promoting science to promoting himself. I judge him but in all honesty
mazelt0vc0ckt4il
I become a self-loving egomaniac that thinks everyone is beneath them over the smallest of compliments so I understand how it happens
mazelt0vc0ckt4il
Wait, I forgot about the sexual harassment, while I understand how celebrity worship can make you think you can do whatever you want
mazelt0vc0ckt4il
It's an explanation, not an excuse to treat people like crap and sexual harassment is never ok.
WorthEveryPenny
Its easy to get a touch of bill maher when your opposition is conservatives, antivaxxers, and flat earthers.
CulturallyEmbiggened
Lol it's funny you say that, because Bill Maher is actually an antivaxer
override367
Bill Maher got a hate boner for the left because he really doesnt like trans people and socialism and good god what happened to him
dogwithahumanface
He got popular when all you needed was an "edgy" take on politics to become famous. Society has grown past the need for Bill Maher.
aFadingMemory
His panels are still really good. It's why I watch.
dogwithahumanface
If he ever allows his guests to get in a word. Heaven forbid anyone challenges him. He'll cut them off and belittle them.
cuddleskunk
He was always an asshole...he would just occasionally shit out nuggets of gold. he is almost the same person as Dennis Miller.
Findrek
You know I had forgotten Dennis Miller existed, and I don't much appreciate you reminding me.
ifmusicbethefoodofloveplayon
Why do we hate Dennis Miller?
Findrek
Cause he is an asshole who only occasionally shit nuggets of gold. Much less gold then Maher in my opinion.
UpvoteTotem
I keep thinking about him saying the earth spins inside an oblong water ball, but I'm pretty sure the water spins along with the earth
ButterfaceTaintClown
tides
UpvoteTotem
I understand tides. He painted a pretty different picture than the slight pull of lunar tides
ButterfaceTaintClown
clouds and jet stream. he knows what he's talking about.
Puppydonk
Michio Kaku is the superior science guy, in the tier directly below Bill Nye and Marie 'Muhfugga' Curie.
CulturallyEmbiggened
I love me some Michio Kaku.
AstroFizX
Michio Kaku, Brian Cox, Brian Greene; it should be any of them instead of Neil, to be this famous.
AstroFizX
I don’t like him at all. He’s too personally pompous when it comes to talking about science. It ain’t about you bro
the42
Nobody is more interested in what Neil deGrasse Tyson has to say than Neil deGrasse Tyson.
jursamaj
I mean, doesn't that sentence apply to *everybody* (mutatis mutandis)?
ThisUserDoesNotExist
Also, low key off putting. Would not be surprised if he has or will ever be accused of SA
TreeSparrowDY
Jesus
smashpro1
He has been, by four women.
CulturallyEmbiggened
I guess what I'm saying is let's hear Steakums out
ThatSquirrelInTheCorner
That's Steak-umms to you, buddy
itsallaboutthecones
They are making some solid points and their products are delicious.
cyno01
Yeah, but low grade beef is one of the biggest contributors to global warming. Eat better local beef, not frozen crap.
itsallaboutthecones
Honestly I thought these were dog treats, which probably still fits with your comment. I was trying to be funny but failed...
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Eh. I’ll pass. Given the politically charged climate that NDG is actually responding to, and the fact that it’s fucking SteakUms? Can we 1/
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
leave the nitpicking to your personal platform and not add high-vis fuel to anti-vax, climate denier, and anti-science communities. 2/2
Getthatbucheinmybelly
It seemed to me that Steakums was being pedantic over nothing and it’s probably just a market ploy anyways
rbudrick
He makes too many arrogant expressions in his face, which I could see was toned down a lot better in season 2 of Contact.
HeyILikeDogs
Lol too bill Maher about things. That's such a perfect description, I love it.
wadatahmydamie
It’s a super fucked-up thing to say about somebody. Imagine being compared to Maher :(
wadatahmydamie
“If you don’t believe everything I do and come to the conclusion exactly the same way you’re a stupid asshole.” - Bill Maher, when wrong
tentacularfleshscape
Read in his voice