To be fair, it only says that he's PLANNING it. I *planned* to wash 2 loads of dishes today, but don't give me credit for doing them until I actually DO them.
I don't doubt he wants it but planning and accomplishing are 2 very different things. He's done great so far but you can't credit him for things that have yet to happen.
Having a ton of trees will likely reduce the ambient city temperature during hot summers and flood run off volumes too. There’s a ton of benefits to a literal green city.
the desire to cover "30%" with threes in 4-year time is alright, but it will take them at least 10 years or more (depending on the tree specie) to cast a significant shadow and cooldown. This is not a short time expense but rather a long term investment.
My block is tree-lined because my landlord ponied up to do both sides of the whole street a couple decades ago. In the summers, it's an oasis of cool shade. Every nyc street should be like this and the reason they're not is mostly that getting trees planted in nyc is pay-to-play. Here's hoping Mamdani has some follow-through here.
NYC has about 24% coverage, so his plan will increase that by about 25% if it achieves 30%, for reference. Most blocks in NYC have at least some trees.
Yeah, that's right, and I don't quite understand the math the city uses on this stuff. A lot of blocks have so little coverage. They say we can't get to 30% without planting a bunch of trees on private land, but I feel like there is room for 5x more trees on just about every block I see.
That's the biggest threat he poses to the other politicians in this country, showing that things actually can, in fact, be budgeted appropriately instead of taking underhanded bribes from rich assholes who want nothing more than to push poor people's faces deeper into the mud.
Yeah, a lot of things he’s gotten credit for were already in the works. That said, ungumming the works and getting shit to actually happen is actually what the job of mayor is all about, so it does matter if he’s breaking up logjams and such. I don’t know if that applies in this case, though.
Was the pothole-fixing announcement just well-handled PR, or were previous mayors really so venal they couldn't even be bothered fixing a bunch of potholes?!
1st one. Every mayor's staff (going back at least to Giuliani) has tried using potholes as PR. A series of good winters = fewer potholes = brag about how good the streets are. Bad winters = lots of potholes = brag about how many potholes were filled.
I have not looked, but taxes would be most likely. If you're not busy skimming money or paying it to your buddies for 'work' it can actually do helpful things.
The real question you should ask yourself is: do you wonder how constant increases to police budgets get paid for, or how every new road project gets funded, and if not why not?
An initiative like this will probably SAVE money, beatification projects reduce anti social behaviour, the heat reduction will save people money spent on air conditioning, the improved air quality will save money on health care.
The mayor of New York is extremely powerful compared to the mayor's office of most cities, so it's a little unfair to make direct comparisons to other mayors around the country. But certainly he makes every other New York mayor look like trash.
yeah this is what kinda sucks about cities like Los Angeles. Its more decentralized that a mayor would have a tough time making big moves like NYC. I get that LA specifically wanted to avoid NYC's centralized power but just as there are cons with a centralized gov, there are cons with a decentralized gov.
Guiliani’s problem was definitely not in the realm of “doing stuff.” He did a lot of stuff. A lot of it was awful, but he was definitely out there doing the things he campaigned on.
Even there, the same election that Mamdani won also included 4 ballot measures scaling back the City Council’s ability to block the Mayor. A good thing, when the Mayor is Mamdani, but Adams pushed for those same measures and it would have been awful with him (notably, those measures didn’t win even when Adams did, because while he did manage to win he was never nearly as popular/trusted as Mamdani). Not that I expect our recent mayors would have done what Mamdani has, even if they could’ve...
The parts where they vote for capitalists thinking they're the good guys just because they slap a rainbow flag on things while still exploiting the working class and saying that voting for the "good" billionairs will fix the problems of capitalism.
It's NYC, not Billings MT. 30%? Yeah, I question the technical details. But hey, I get it. There are all too many people in the world that can't think past the "boy doesn't' that sound wonderful" part. Everyone loves the idea, no one wants to figure out how to actually make it happen. That's "someone else's problem"
I’ve always lived in houses with large trees. 10-12ft from buildings and sidewalks should be fine for decades. Sewer lines though? It’s got what plants crave!
Should be doesn't mean is. I'm currently remodelling my garage because a white pine growing about 10 feet from it got its roots under a shallow foundation and heaved it enough to make the wall bulge out.
Also, 10 feet is a minimum distance for firetrucks as well in case anything goes wrong.
Approximately 85% of NYC streets have less than 10 feet between buildings and the “furnishing zone” where things like trees are, per https://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/pedestrians/pedestrian-mobility.shtml. Still, NYC already has a lot of trees, so the city knows how to do this, this just prioritizes more of them.
Sewercidal is a chemical you pour down your toilet a couple of times a year to discourage roots from infiltrating your pipes. Still, every few years I have to get the plumber out to route-out the pipes. But the tree (blue spruce) has been there longer than I've been alive, so it's worth the occasional cost.
Of course he misses. He's human. The difference is that he realizes his errors and fixes them. Didn't you see the bicycle helmet bit just a little while ago?
Even when he does make a mistake, he takes ownership. He gave a great response to riding a bike without a helmet that showed accountability and the importance of being a good role model.
The obligation of wearing a helmet reduce bike usage and thus raise mortality rate. It helps victim blaming, and drivers care less around cyclists. Infrastructure save lives, not helmets
And if you couldn't the covid cases statistics go up. Ridiculous his you aren't focusing on falling off a perch onto nyc pavement in a crowded environment. Just a dumb take.
It's refreshing to not have a politician constantly in damage control as if admitting you should have worn safety gear as a role model is a career ender. You trust people more when they own up.
For some people brown people are scary, my mother used to drive the car through the poor neighborhood, tell us to lock the doors, and I was wondering why we driving in a place where had no reason to be , it's conditioning
I like 95% of what this guy has done, but the city-run grocery stores is likely a bad idea that will inevitably fail to deliver on promises that are unachievable (I’m happy to be proven wrong here).
My hope is that its to set an example of the extreme inflation, price gouging, and collusion that is going on. I'm not sure of the details, like if they are going to go full on generics/local products or still trying to have all the brand name things, but if they can show what's possible without the greed even at a small scale it will definitely have an effect beyond just helping those that are in dire need.
The United States government has had government run grocery stores for decades now. Super low prices, worldwide distribution. They're on pretty much every military base.
This is literally why I voted for him. I frankly didn’t expect he’d be able to deliver even as much as he already has, and stuff like rent freeze and city-owned groceries seem unlikely to work even if he makes them happen, but fuck, we need somebody to fucking try something. I’m an engineer and my wife’s a doctor and we’re getting priced out of the city. Fucking what? We’ll manage, we have a lot of privilege, but if it takes this much privilege just to get in, wtf are people supposed to do?
He does, unfortunately. He kept on the ultra-Zionist police commissioner Tisch, he didnt shut down the illegal sale of Palestinian land in NYC synagogues, and he both-sidesed the protestors of the land sales. He is good on domestic policy but he has unfortunately compromised way too much on Palestinians.
He's still doing good things, but even still, always hold your politicians to account for their failures.
I love him, but I hope he has a maintenance plan for them. Ours got messed up because they stopped trimming for a few years. Suddenly we had downed wires on the regular
1. NYC has a robust Parks & Rec department that has no doubt been involved in these plans from the get-go. NYC’s coverage was already 24%, so increasing to 30% is “only” a 25% increase for them. 2. NYC also has all of its wires underground, so while unmaintained trees certainly could cause problems, downed wires wouldn’t be one of them.
That’s the thing. He’s not waving a magic wand or anything. He’s just doing shit that could’ve been done at any time. He’s showing other politicians that there’s no excuse.
As a politician your job isn't to legislate, it's to get elected. Most voters are fairly uninformed, and lots of elections work on slim margins so they toe the party line and try to be everywhere at once.
Who has time to get anything done when you have to spend the first half of your term fundraising with wealthy donors, and the second half using those funds to discredit your competitors and hype yourself up with ad campaigns and public spectacles?
They're not lazy. They're working hard. To increase the wealth and power of themselves, their friends, their donors, and corporations. That's a lot of people to take care of.
Exactly. People seem to forget Donnie Trump did a LOT of shit in his first 2 months of 2025. Mitch McConnell pushed through more than 1200 judges in just a few months when Trump got first elected. Politicians can do sooooooooooooo much... if they want to.
Not exactly. They have the house the senate and the presidency. It's not as easy to get things done unless you have this combination (in regards to Trump and McConnell).
On the tail end of McConnell claiming he couldn't do anything for OVER A FUCKING YEAR in the one of the most insanely transparent examples of political corruption and overreach in US history. The fact that we didn't try that fucking cunt for treason for that should have told us everything we needed to know back in 2016.
Mitch claimed Obama couldnt appoint a SCOTUS in the 10 months before an election but then pushed through a SCOTUS judge in 12 days before an election when Trump was in power. Worst of it all is... imagine if the Democrats since Bill Clinton had done the stuff Mamdani has been doing over the past few months. Democrats would have had the trifecta, President, Senate, House for the past 35 years. 9 Democrat SCOTUS judges. America would have been a literal paradise by now.
I read the idea that Obama should've just seated whoever he wanted. When the Senate declined hearings he (apparently, I'm not a lawyer) could've gone "wow, McConnell likes my pick so much he doesn't even need hearings for approval" and seated his pick. GOP likely would've sued and it would've gone to SCOTUS but at least then they would've had to rule on whether the Senate HAD to hold hearings when a SCOTUS nom was made
Every mayor has "more trees" in their PR checklist. Mayor Adams also said he wanted to hit 30% cover. He targeted 2030. Mamdani is making the same announcement but pushing the date to 2040. But sure, Mamdani is special. Every announcement is slurped up with no skepticism, no memory of prior administrations, and nobody is actually waiting until he delivers to cover him in glory. I want the guy to succeed, but come on, take his dick out long enough to take a deep breath.
Even if you have an actual, legitimate point to make, saying things like "take his dick out long enough to take a deep breath" will make everyone lose all interest in your point.
Difference is he is actively working toward his promises and being transparent about it as well as progressing. Plus he is showing results for some of his promises very quickly. Think of it like this, the previous admins were not forgotten but they lowered the standards of normal people so much that this guy doing the bare minimum is enough for people to celebrate.
Mamdani will need to plant 1mm trees. Bloomberg promised 1mm trees and delivered, so we have a model. Mamdani isn't following that model. Bloomberg had it fully funded from a bunch of public/private sources. Mamdani is not funding it at all. He *cut* the parks budget. Mamdani also has to put a few hundred thousand of those trees on private land and his plan is sketchy on that. By every reasonable expectation, Mamdani will do better than Adams and worse than Bloomberg on trees.
It's fascinating to see people downvoting you out of pure disagreement with your position while not addressing the real world policy that you are referring to at all. I would like to know more on this topic. Can you direct me to your info sources, if they are collated in any fashion, so I don't have to dig up 8 disparate sources on my own? If not, I'll go hunting.
Worse. Criminally incompetent. They always had time/money to help people lining their pockets. Heaven forbid anyone think of the common man who can't make a contribution but pays the taxes
That is the fucked up part of it. Politicians are babies. They have no object permanence and cannot percieve anything abstract. They gotta be bribed with physical objects or bank balances to register something exists. The idea of taxes and where their paycheck comes from is a total mystery to them.
That and they go for short term wins. I call it the Baseball Diamond Stewardship. Politicians love the ribbon cutting, the pictures, and the press that comes with dedicating a baseball diamond because it is publicily popular... but maintaining it is an ongoing expense. An expense they will quickly cut and relocate. So it will get covered in grass, go to shit, and covered in trash. Then they'll remove the diamond. Then in 10 years they'll build a new one
/2 No one sees the long term value of maintaining the things we have for public good or improving on them. It's so much flashier to cut the ribbon on a big project and move onto the next thing. Let the old ones grow weeds
Most politicians (over a certain level) are not lazy, at all. They're working diligently doing their job, ie serving the interests of the corporations and rich elite who own them. I'm not being facetious.
Their general list of priorities goes: Lobbyist and corporate demands --> Protecting their own [campaign/team/career/profits/pocket/donors/etc] --> (party split) dem: trying to meet maybe 2 of 10 campaign promises/ gop: defining the out group --> dem: defining the outgroup/gop:explaining why they will be meeting 0 of their campaign promises and that's actually a good thing and sticks it to the government and the democrats.
that was a great video, watched it some time ago and think about it pretty much constantly as of turd's second term. there's a playlist, but i do believe this is the specific video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs
There's money for a bad government contract, but none to be found to make this subway station not a moist 108F in the summer time where the public needs to stand
Kinda like when a certain orange anus paid unqualified golf course managers to renovate a national monument and they fucked it up rather than doing something productive with the money.
Money is needed for important things. Important things are things that are personally important to Trump. That is the entire list. Anything else that gets funded was almost guaranteed done against his wishes, including things that support and continue his ability to retain power.
I'm guessing the difference is more significant in highrise areas - a canyon of concrete and glass makes for a lot of echo if there's nothing soft to absorb sound. But yeah, even if made no acoustic difference, more trees = more better.
..."and less cold in winter" Eh. It's losing me with this bit. I love the cold and fucking abhor heat, and while it obviously won't turn into a second summer...a "less cold" winter seems very antithetical to me lol.
Its just the extremes, and you're looking at under 5 degrees of difference, and mostly wind chill, which is what causes a lot of the sudden temperator drops
Yes, but bear in mind that NYC already has 24% coverage. Going up to 30% is still a 25% increase over 24%, so I’m happy it’s happening, but NYC already has a lot of trees. The thing that matters most here, really, is *where* he’s putting them. Some streets are lacking them entirely, and *that* is the biggest problem. Just putting more trees in places that already have some is nice, but not necessarily solving an important problem. I’m sure he knows that, though, so I expect it’s well-targeted.
Yeah, and Mamdani has been remarkably good at following through. I just see a lot of comments that seem to believe NYC streets were completely bare of trees before him.
Not to mention how many birds you'd be hearing and seeing with that many more trees. Less car noises echoing, more birdsong, cooler temps, the sound of rustling leaves, hopefully less of that terrible "car fluids on pavement baking in the sun" stench.
Im pissed he's accepting credit for shit the last mayor or governor did before he was in office. but apparently that's only an issue when it's republicans who do it.
from what I read, adams pushed it through in 24, didn't come into effect until mamdani's term started. Then there's the state's free schooling and childcare acts that the governor pushed b4 mamdani won the primary and the state's 2nd house tax when his 2% rich tax died in legislature. Major Stuff he's done is 0'd the deficit, line itemed library budgets, and got a land bill for the city groceries.
100% down with tracing the proper origins of things and giving proper credit. But if we're comparing this to Republican behavior, then we need to find the prior moment where Mamdani et al tried to stop this from happening, before taking credit once it was clear it was happening anyway.
*That* part is what makes the Republican examples so vile.
They're not the same actions, is my point. If Mamdani is taking credit for someone else's work, then he should rightfully be called out for it. But it's not a direct mirror of Republican behavior unless he also tried to stop said work from happening beforehand.
https://youtu.be/8AJ4Bt2NCZQ here's a vid from 24 of adams rolling out the nyc trash bins program. /gallery/we-loved-giant-piles-of-rats-cockroaches-IUIxm9m here's mamdani being credited for it in 26.
So, again, why's it wrong for republicans but not for demsocs? Like why's trump *rightly* on the front page for jacking biden's prescription policy but mamdani's not for adams' trash bins?
Ooo here it is guys! I was wondering what MAGAs were going to say when Mamdani started making the city better objectively. It's this! "It was really the republican mayor who did all of it it just happened to go into effect during Mamdani's reign." Okay bro.
Was a dem mayor, and governor's a dem. and top reply to me even says the bin was setup decades ago, and *wrongly as it was indeed adams* mamdani finally pushed the ok button.
"Yeah he is doing great stuff but I'm pissed cause he's taking credit for other great stuff" is ... odd, to me. Politicians are going to politick. As long as great stuff IS happening, I don' tmind if the new politicans takes more credit than they deserve as long as they are ALSO doing great stuff not just riding coattails.
Ultimately someone has to celebrate the win, and just like in companies, it tends to be whoever's in charge at the time of the win.
I said as long as he's also doing great stuff. I did say that, twice, right? If Trump was like "hey healthcare costs are down thanks to me" and included prescriptoin drug prices (that actually went down, not just promised) then yeah I'd give EVEN trump a pass on the politicking.
Since he is actively increasing overall costs, the drug prices were a smokescreen, and he's NOT doing other great things... then my statement stands.
And I said i'm pissed mamdani's accepting credit for stuff he had no involvement in. Odd to me to say that's fine as long as you like something else he's doing.
Mgxr44
Put socialists in charge and shit gets done 🤷🏻
CrimeSceneShoe
FoxPesdassi
To be fair, it only says that he's PLANNING it. I *planned* to wash 2 loads of dishes today, but don't give me credit for doing them until I actually DO them.
Frobizzle
I don't doubt he wants it but planning and accomplishing are 2 very different things. He's done great so far but you can't credit him for things that have yet to happen.
KingKrabvoldIV
Having a ton of trees will likely reduce the ambient city temperature during hot summers and flood run off volumes too. There’s a ton of benefits to a literal green city.
HenryLongfellowIII
Trees and mandated cool roofs can reduce the city core air temperature significantly- not only more comfortable outdoors but it reduces the A/C load (which itself exhausts heat into the city from the condensers). https://www.gatech.edu/news/2025/06/12/can-cool-roofs-help-atlanta-beat-heat-georgia-tech-experts-weigh
duktayp
This man is clearly some kind of maniac and must be stopped... From his nefarious plan of being the most awesome mayor ever
sometimesarobot
Including or not including the parks?
420supercoolusername69
We just came back from NYC and it’s fuckin magical and he’s got major support
DeakVanNyke
the desire to cover "30%" with threes in 4-year time is alright, but it will take them at least 10 years or more (depending on the tree specie) to cast a significant shadow and cooldown. This is not a short time expense but rather a long term investment.
DeakVanNyke
p.s. and I hope there will be no Chinese ash as these trees stink gross mid-bloom (especially after rain) and are invasive AF
GimcrackGewgaw
My block is tree-lined because my landlord ponied up to do both sides of the whole street a couple decades ago. In the summers, it's an oasis of cool shade. Every nyc street should be like this and the reason they're not is mostly that getting trees planted in nyc is pay-to-play. Here's hoping Mamdani has some follow-through here.
dragoonwraith
NYC has about 24% coverage, so his plan will increase that by about 25% if it achieves 30%, for reference. Most blocks in NYC have at least some trees.
GimcrackGewgaw
Yeah, that's right, and I don't quite understand the math the city uses on this stuff. A lot of blocks have so little coverage. They say we can't get to 30% without planting a bunch of trees on private land, but I feel like there is room for 5x more trees on just about every block I see.
CanItBeFiredWithAnErection
How is NY going to pay for this? Does he think trees just grow on trees?! /s
andwings2go
It’s sad that this funny ass comment needs a “/s” because of how shitty the reading comprehension around here is lately
NightOwlRally
That's the biggest threat he poses to the other politicians in this country, showing that things actually can, in fact, be budgeted appropriately instead of taking underhanded bribes from rich assholes who want nothing more than to push poor people's faces deeper into the mud.
nefroye
Great to plants lots of trees - but I don't think planting tons of them on a rooftop like what's shown is a good idea.
VinnieJonesDiary
That looks like an elevated rail platform to me, I'm pretty sure it can take the weight
nefroye
Not so much thinking about the weight, but what the roots will likely do over time. They'll wreak havoc. Depends on the type of tree though.
videopilot
That's a photo of the south end of the highline. Those trees are already there.
AlienJeffries81
Of the people... By the people.
TexAustin
This was the plan before mamdani. He's just better at communicating
dragoonwraith
Yeah, a lot of things he’s gotten credit for were already in the works. That said, ungumming the works and getting shit to actually happen is actually what the job of mayor is all about, so it does matter if he’s breaking up logjams and such. I don’t know if that applies in this case, though.
Telemapus
Was the pothole-fixing announcement just well-handled PR, or were previous mayors really so venal they couldn't even be bothered fixing a bunch of potholes?!
JSperoni
1st one. Every mayor's staff (going back at least to Giuliani) has tried using potholes as PR. A series of good winters = fewer potholes = brag about how good the streets are. Bad winters = lots of potholes = brag about how many potholes were filled.
CallMeCourierSix
DING DING DING! It was the second one!
MrSwissroll
That is the face of a man that's tired of walking through a bowl of soup to get to work everyday
TheobromineAddict
I think this is great, but I do wonder how this is being paid for.
koalamonster
I have not looked, but taxes would be most likely. If you're not busy skimming money or paying it to your buddies for 'work' it can actually do helpful things.
VinnieJonesDiary
The real question you should ask yourself is: do you wonder how constant increases to police budgets get paid for, or how every new road project gets funded, and if not why not?
An initiative like this will probably SAVE money, beatification projects reduce anti social behaviour, the heat reduction will save people money spent on air conditioning, the improved air quality will save money on health care.
futhor
The mayor of New York is extremely powerful compared to the mayor's office of most cities, so it's a little unfair to make direct comparisons to other mayors around the country. But certainly he makes every other New York mayor look like trash.
SploogeMcDuck316
yeah this is what kinda sucks about cities like Los Angeles. Its more decentralized that a mayor would have a tough time making big moves like NYC. I get that LA specifically wanted to avoid NYC's centralized power but just as there are cons with a centralized gov, there are cons with a decentralized gov.
FellaWithUmbrella
Especially ”America’s Mayor” Rudy Giuliani.
dragoonwraith
Guiliani’s problem was definitely not in the realm of “doing stuff.” He did a lot of stuff. A lot of it was awful, but he was definitely out there doing the things he campaigned on.
Coziestwall
Especially Guliani
brownribbon
Nah. He did that all by himself.
dragoonwraith
Even there, the same election that Mamdani won also included 4 ballot measures scaling back the City Council’s ability to block the Mayor. A good thing, when the Mayor is Mamdani, but Adams pushed for those same measures and it would have been awful with him (notably, those measures didn’t win even when Adams did, because while he did manage to win he was never nearly as popular/trusted as Mamdani). Not that I expect our recent mayors would have done what Mamdani has, even if they could’ve...
TonawandaBlue
Watch MAGA come out against trees.
samanthadlcruz
you mean like bulldozing our national parks to build walls and pump profit into oil industry; logging and mining companies?
Hexidimentional
maga are protesting the bin program aimed at cleaning up all the garbgage laying around
TobiOfTheAkatsuki
Ngl I wouldn't be surprised if some redhat fuckwits deliberately cut them down out of pure spite.
MrSatisify
Republicans have been idiots for a long time!
Metallica93
Why even bother with this thought, though? Fuck 'em. Let's go help make our cities better and more livable for everyone, cunts and all.
CaldariBob
The same MAGA celebrating the executive orders to allow logging on previously protected national forest lands? You are probably right!
raitchison
It's a little more complicated than that, Mamdani came into office with a fuckton of political capital and little to no actual opposition.
I will agree that the last several NYC mayors have been useless at best, his immediate predecessor (Adams) was EXTREMELY corrupt.
thewiggins
it helps when you are actually on the side of the people who live in said city
MNColdagain
There was also a deficit of at least $10 billion (likely more) that has had to confront. Not an easy start.
dirtcreature
DeBlasio. Holy god what a joke.
Khanamana324
If only Democrats in California were like this. But no, all they do is incessantly throat oligarchs.
Fendeezy
Which part(s) of California are you referring to?
Raikupath
The parts where they vote for capitalists thinking they're the good guys just because they slap a rainbow flag on things while still exploiting the working class and saying that voting for the "good" billionairs will fix the problems of capitalism.
TheRealArclight
Khanamana324
Ah yes, we’re a fascist because we dare to criticize liberals for being centre right politically. Sod off with your purity testing bullshit.
TheRealArclight
funny coming from the ppl who didn't vote or voted 3rd party this last presidential election...thanks for helping trump get reelected asshole.
Raikupath
You don't have to me MAGA to realise that democrats are just capitalists. You only need a brain and be an actual leftist unlike democrats.
BellsTheorem
DSA Democrats as well?
TheRealArclight
Khanamana324
The only one I see throating bootleather here is you bub.
Raikupath
You're the one licking the boot of capitalism. I'm a marxist, I hate capitalists while you endorce them and vote for them.
TheRealArclight
TresusIbor
The only concern I have is weight/water/root issues and that they have the means to combat them.
Hyzenthlay021
Yeah. Nice concept, but I question the technical aspects.
PastureofMuppets
Of TREES??? Trees in a city is a question to you? Every major world city has this currently, and this is a 'concept' to you??? Trees!
Hyzenthlay021
It's NYC, not Billings MT. 30%? Yeah, I question the technical details. But hey, I get it. There are all too many people in the world that can't think past the "boy doesn't' that sound wonderful" part. Everyone loves the idea, no one wants to figure out how to actually make it happen. That's "someone else's problem"
dragoonwraith
NYC has about 24% coverage already, and has for decades. The NYC Parks Dept. is very on top of things.
andwings2go
I’ve always lived in houses with large trees. 10-12ft from buildings and sidewalks should be fine for decades. Sewer lines though? It’s got what plants crave!
OdinYggd
Should be doesn't mean is. I'm currently remodelling my garage because a white pine growing about 10 feet from it got its roots under a shallow foundation and heaved it enough to make the wall bulge out.
Also, 10 feet is a minimum distance for firetrucks as well in case anything goes wrong.
dragoonwraith
Approximately 85% of NYC streets have less than 10 feet between buildings and the “furnishing zone” where things like trees are, per https://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/html/pedestrians/pedestrian-mobility.shtml. Still, NYC already has a lot of trees, so the city knows how to do this, this just prioritizes more of them.
SecurityBadger
Sewercidal is a chemical you pour down your toilet a couple of times a year to discourage roots from infiltrating your pipes. Still, every few years I have to get the plumber out to route-out the pipes. But the tree (blue spruce) has been there longer than I've been alive, so it's worth the occasional cost.
andwings2go
Thanks! I’ll check that out. I have a plumber out once a year and was considering buying a machine
Sonicschilidogs
Also, what happens when they fall? Nothing lives forever.
Moto42
You keep track of their health and pull them down before it becomes and issue.
PastureofMuppets
City trees have always been maintained by city arborist teams---why would anything change? (Did i miss your joke sarcasm?)
kubi
So more trees also means more jobs?
dragoonwraith
Based on the comments, I get the feeling that a lot of people are unaware of how many trees NYC already had.
EveryUsernameIsTaken4
oh... This is not a bad thing, actually. I'm so used to rolling my eyes at every politician post lately. This is good. Trees are good.
EveryUsernameIsTaken4
But still, untagged. So downvoted and blocked. Fuck you.
shardix
boxbackknitties
Does this guy miss? How can you not love what he’s doing?
ElbowDeepInAHeadlessHorseman
He'll miss here and there. What matters is that he's taking swings. He's inspiring in the vein of old black and white Jimmy Stewart movies :p
BeaverOnFire
Of course he misses. He's human. The difference is that he realizes his errors and fixes them. Didn't you see the bicycle helmet bit just a little while ago?
TexMexHex
Ask any white christian. They'll give ye a few racism. Spoiler, they are racist reasons.
bakamono
Plus they will call him a Communist. Because in their world, doing your f-cking job and doing it well is communism. https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1anVhczlrZ2FsNjR1emRvbTZrcjd4ZWM2MWxqcmR5YzEzczY0eWJ2aCZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/6PU5A9KjxP0g8/200w.webp
yallmfsneedjesus
Yea ive already seen "this is exactly what Casteo did in Cuba! He did all this good stuff as a ruse and then BOOM communism and dictatorship!"
SarcasticComment
Even when he does make a mistake, he takes ownership. He gave a great response to riding a bike without a helmet that showed accountability and the importance of being a good role model.
blfpd
The obligation of wearing a helmet reduce bike usage and thus raise mortality rate. It helps victim blaming, and drivers care less around cyclists. Infrastructure save lives, not helmets
SarcasticComment
And if you couldn't the covid cases statistics go up. Ridiculous his you aren't focusing on falling off a perch onto nyc pavement in a crowded environment. Just a dumb take.
boxbackknitties
I saw that. He and his people turned that little l into a big W.
SarcasticComment
It's refreshing to not have a politician constantly in damage control as if admitting you should have worn safety gear as a role model is a career ender. You trust people more when they own up.
Apeofdeath
For some people brown people are scary, my mother used to drive the car through the poor neighborhood, tell us to lock the doors, and I was wondering why we driving in a place where had no reason to be , it's conditioning
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
HeLl RuN oUt Of OtHeR pEoPleS mOnEy
MisterLemons
Shit, guess he should just pocket it like the better examples then.
Greypuppy
the best thing in the world, along with donuts
Easykehl
I like 95% of what this guy has done, but the city-run grocery stores is likely a bad idea that will inevitably fail to deliver on promises that are unachievable (I’m happy to be proven wrong here).
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
My hope is that its to set an example of the extreme inflation, price gouging, and collusion that is going on. I'm not sure of the details, like if they are going to go full on generics/local products or still trying to have all the brand name things, but if they can show what's possible without the greed even at a small scale it will definitely have an effect beyond just helping those that are in dire need.
PedanticAsshat
The United States government has had government run grocery stores for decades now. Super low prices, worldwide distribution. They're on pretty much every military base.
crazyspelling
Even if they fail, they'll learn valuable lessons for next time, and shape future public discourse.
boxbackknitties
We’ll see I guess. Cheers to being wrong.
Aspernari
At least he's trying to do a thing there though. Even if it doesn't meet his stated goals, hopefully it helps with the problem to some degree.
dragoonwraith
This is literally why I voted for him. I frankly didn’t expect he’d be able to deliver even as much as he already has, and stuff like rent freeze and city-owned groceries seem unlikely to work even if he makes them happen, but fuck, we need somebody to fucking try something. I’m an engineer and my wife’s a doctor and we’re getting priced out of the city. Fucking what? We’ll manage, we have a lot of privilege, but if it takes this much privilege just to get in, wtf are people supposed to do?
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
He does, unfortunately. He kept on the ultra-Zionist police commissioner Tisch, he didnt shut down the illegal sale of Palestinian land in NYC synagogues, and he both-sidesed the protestors of the land sales. He is good on domestic policy but he has unfortunately compromised way too much on Palestinians.
He's still doing good things, but even still, always hold your politicians to account for their failures.
DrewK98
He is good on domestic policy but international policy is not in the scope of his job. FIFY
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
All the things I mentioned were things happening in his city. Hiring a police commissioner is literally one of his mayoral powers.
I'm not saying we should hate him for these failures but they are failures.
Spiderbubble
BUT THINK OF THE BILLIONAIRES THAT ARE GETTING TAXED AN EXTRA 0.001% OF THEIR WEALTH!
colderfish
I love him, but I hope he has a maintenance plan for them. Ours got messed up because they stopped trimming for a few years. Suddenly we had downed wires on the regular
dragoonwraith
1. NYC has a robust Parks & Rec department that has no doubt been involved in these plans from the get-go. NYC’s coverage was already 24%, so increasing to 30% is “only” a 25% increase for them. 2. NYC also has all of its wires underground, so while unmaintained trees certainly could cause problems, downed wires wouldn’t be one of them.
drousnavat
I mean, yeah. When you see what a motivated politician can do and how fast, you realize that 99% of those fucks are just being lazy.
MikeRInternetTraveler
That’s the thing. He’s not waving a magic wand or anything. He’s just doing shit that could’ve been done at any time. He’s showing other politicians that there’s no excuse.
bad1080
*being paid to do nothing
astrangehop
As a politician your job isn't to legislate, it's to get elected. Most voters are fairly uninformed, and lots of elections work on slim margins so they toe the party line and try to be everywhere at once.
BeaverOnFire
It's not laziness! It's grifting for corporate 'contributions' to their campaign. 🤔
awkungen42
Lazy. Selling out their constituents. Doing everything in their power to make life worse.
MrGhostbuster
Lazy at best, evil at worst.
Poppypoppoppop
They don't get that excuse. They are not lazy, they are doing it on purpose
TrilithonStone
They're negotiating corruption schemes and getting paid.
JustAName00
Who has time to get anything done when you have to spend the first half of your term fundraising with wealthy donors, and the second half using those funds to discredit your competitors and hype yourself up with ad campaigns and public spectacles?
TacoPoweredHelicopter
They were working hard, just not for things that improve the well-being of the citizens.
YouRadicalizedMe
Yup
ragekritz
No they are very motivated people, just Against this. Also this proves the "incremental change" stuff more false or at least not "that" slow
NotSomoneElse68
They're not lazy. They're working hard. To increase the wealth and power of themselves, their friends, their donors, and corporations. That's a lot of people to take care of.
JustAName00
They have teams vetted and recommended by their donors to do all that. They just sign the paperwork those teams push through the system.
ChickenNuggetNumber05
most politicans and landlords are from the same trees
TheDoctorCrankenstein
GrandmasterSpank
Exactly. People seem to forget Donnie Trump did a LOT of shit in his first 2 months of 2025. Mitch McConnell pushed through more than 1200 judges in just a few months when Trump got first elected. Politicians can do sooooooooooooo much... if they want to.
4etherling
Not exactly. They have the house the senate and the presidency. It's not as easy to get things done unless you have this combination (in regards to Trump and McConnell).
GrandmasterSpank
The Dems hardly ever have the trifecta because their policies suck and when they finally DO have the trifecta, they dont deliver.
wabitgirl
On the tail end of McConnell claiming he couldn't do anything for OVER A FUCKING YEAR in the one of the most insanely transparent examples of political corruption and overreach in US history. The fact that we didn't try that fucking cunt for treason for that should have told us everything we needed to know back in 2016.
GrandmasterSpank
Mitch claimed Obama couldnt appoint a SCOTUS in the 10 months before an election but then pushed through a SCOTUS judge in 12 days before an election when Trump was in power. Worst of it all is... imagine if the Democrats since Bill Clinton had done the stuff Mamdani has been doing over the past few months. Democrats would have had the trifecta, President, Senate, House for the past 35 years. 9 Democrat SCOTUS judges. America would have been a literal paradise by now.
bozonebum83
1stDrunkJoe
Dontstopbelever2000ismyfavoritesoap
I read the idea that Obama should've just seated whoever he wanted. When the Senate declined hearings he (apparently, I'm not a lawyer) could've gone "wow, McConnell likes my pick so much he doesn't even need hearings for approval" and seated his pick. GOP likely would've sued and it would've gone to SCOTUS but at least then they would've had to rule on whether the Senate HAD to hold hearings when a SCOTUS nom was made
GimcrackGewgaw
Every mayor has "more trees" in their PR checklist. Mayor Adams also said he wanted to hit 30% cover. He targeted 2030. Mamdani is making the same announcement but pushing the date to 2040. But sure, Mamdani is special. Every announcement is slurped up with no skepticism, no memory of prior administrations, and nobody is actually waiting until he delivers to cover him in glory. I want the guy to succeed, but come on, take his dick out long enough to take a deep breath.
Qualdan
Even if you have an actual, legitimate point to make, saying things like "take his dick out long enough to take a deep breath" will make everyone lose all interest in your point.
drousnavat
Difference is he is actively working toward his promises and being transparent about it as well as progressing. Plus he is showing results for some of his promises very quickly. Think of it like this, the previous admins were not forgotten but they lowered the standards of normal people so much that this guy doing the bare minimum is enough for people to celebrate.
GimcrackGewgaw
Mamdani will need to plant 1mm trees. Bloomberg promised 1mm trees and delivered, so we have a model. Mamdani isn't following that model. Bloomberg had it fully funded from a bunch of public/private sources. Mamdani is not funding it at all. He *cut* the parks budget. Mamdani also has to put a few hundred thousand of those trees on private land and his plan is sketchy on that. By every reasonable expectation, Mamdani will do better than Adams and worse than Bloomberg on trees.
wabitgirl
It's fascinating to see people downvoting you out of pure disagreement with your position while not addressing the real world policy that you are referring to at all. I would like to know more on this topic. Can you direct me to your info sources, if they are collated in any fashion, so I don't have to dig up 8 disparate sources on my own? If not, I'll go hunting.
GimcrackGewgaw
I'm afraid it's mostly memory from being a NYer and a geek, but: for Mamdani stuff start here: https://www.nyc.gov/assets/climate/downloads/pdfs/NYC-Urban-Forest-Plan-2026.pdf and for Bloomberg's thing was part of PlaNYC (terrible name!) in like 2006 or so.
SarcasticComment
Worse. Criminally incompetent. They always had time/money to help people lining their pockets. Heaven forbid anyone think of the common man who can't make a contribution but pays the taxes
drousnavat
That is the fucked up part of it. Politicians are babies. They have no object permanence and cannot percieve anything abstract. They gotta be bribed with physical objects or bank balances to register something exists. The idea of taxes and where their paycheck comes from is a total mystery to them.
SarcasticComment
That and they go for short term wins. I call it the Baseball Diamond Stewardship. Politicians love the ribbon cutting, the pictures, and the press that comes with dedicating a baseball diamond because it is publicily popular... but maintaining it is an ongoing expense. An expense they will quickly cut and relocate. So it will get covered in grass, go to shit, and covered in trash. Then they'll remove the diamond. Then in 10 years they'll build a new one
SarcasticComment
/2 No one sees the long term value of maintaining the things we have for public good or improving on them. It's so much flashier to cut the ribbon on a big project and move onto the next thing. Let the old ones grow weeds
NinjaCongo
Most politicians (over a certain level) are not lazy, at all. They're working diligently doing their job, ie serving the interests of the corporations and rich elite who own them. I'm not being facetious.
magitek
Yep, they’re working tirelessly to further their constituents: Their donors
theshinobi23
Many of them also make sure to put forth bills they know won't pass due to partisan politics, but never introduce them when they have a majority.
NinjaCongo
Controlled opposition.
wejustdontknow
No that's true. They are also serving themselves as a priority which takes a lot of time.
wabitgirl
Their general list of priorities goes: Lobbyist and corporate demands --> Protecting their own [campaign/team/career/profits/pocket/donors/etc] --> (party split) dem: trying to meet maybe 2 of 10 campaign promises/ gop: defining the out group --> dem: defining the outgroup/gop:explaining why they will be meeting 0 of their campaign promises and that's actually a good thing and sticks it to the government and the democrats.
AyatollahBahloni
CycloneSP
and tbf, that's how you stay in power. CGP did a great video called "the keys to power" and it covers this. without the backing of those
CaptainQuarkk
that was a great video, watched it some time ago and think about it pretty much constantly as of turd's second term. there's a playlist, but i do believe this is the specific video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rStL7niR7gs
CycloneSP
with the money, you do not retain your power for long, as you'll be ousted for those that do
Lynkfox
Yet... The tide is turning. People like Mandami are winning because we're tired of the shit
CycloneSP
I pray that be the case, I really do.
SarcasticComment
There's money for a bad government contract, but none to be found to make this subway station not a moist 108F in the summer time where the public needs to stand
drousnavat
Kinda like when a certain orange anus paid unqualified golf course managers to renovate a national monument and they fucked it up rather than doing something productive with the money.
SarcasticComment
Exactly. Always money for a no bid contract that didn't follow general sourcing procedures nor expert analysis
wabitgirl
Money is needed for important things. Important things are things that are personally important to Trump. That is the entire list. Anything else that gets funded was almost guaranteed done against his wishes, including things that support and continue his ability to retain power.
ImAWeirdMom
Won't that also like dampen the sounds some too? Which would make it more pleasant to live there I assume.
Delathi
Seems to be nice in Atlanta, we have lots of trees.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
And they actually make drivers drive safer by making the streets *feel* less like mini highways. Drivers instinctively slow down.
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
And they actually make drivers drive safer by making the streets *feel* less like mini highways. Drivers instinctively slow down.
EmanNiemThcin
Honestly? Not noticably, don't expect too much. But it is still nicer to live around.
Source: https://www.google.com/maps/@51.2363628,6.8053117,617m/data=!3m1!1e3?entry=ttu&g_ep=EgoyMDI2MDgxNi4wIKXMDSoASAFQAw%3D%3D
trasneoir
I'm guessing the difference is more significant in highrise areas - a canyon of concrete and glass makes for a lot of echo if there's nothing soft to absorb sound. But yeah, even if made no acoustic difference, more trees = more better.
SwagicalYololord
And keep the city cooler
AgamemnonsMemes
It would also even out the temperature so its less hot in summer and less cold in winter.
terronium12
..."and less cold in winter" Eh. It's losing me with this bit. I love the cold and fucking abhor heat, and while it obviously won't turn into a second summer...a "less cold" winter seems very antithetical to me lol.
AgamemnonsMemes
Its just the extremes, and you're looking at under 5 degrees of difference, and mostly wind chill, which is what causes a lot of the sudden temperator drops
sometimesarobot
Probably more like "just takes the edge off"
dragoonwraith
Yes, but bear in mind that NYC already has 24% coverage. Going up to 30% is still a 25% increase over 24%, so I’m happy it’s happening, but NYC already has a lot of trees. The thing that matters most here, really, is *where* he’s putting them. Some streets are lacking them entirely, and *that* is the biggest problem. Just putting more trees in places that already have some is nice, but not necessarily solving an important problem. I’m sure he knows that, though, so I expect it’s well-targeted.
PackedCatMeowingPowerDensity
I fucking love it when people get realistic goals, because it does not divorce them from actually trying to make it.
dragoonwraith
Yeah, and Mamdani has been remarkably good at following through. I just see a lot of comments that seem to believe NYC streets were completely bare of trees before him.
tacticus
then again you can still measure where the redlined areas of nyc are by looking at which areas don't have coverage and their daily temps..
Hexidimentional
it'd cut wind too
eMoss55
and the shade would cut down on the temperature too
Greypuppy
Not to mention how many birds you'd be hearing and seeing with that many more trees. Less car noises echoing, more birdsong, cooler temps, the sound of rustling leaves, hopefully less of that terrible "car fluids on pavement baking in the sun" stench.
Zanzetuken
Sure, but when *I* cut wind 20 times a day, no one cares /s
Hexidimentional
Friendly reminder that there are people pissed off that he's cleaning up the garbage problem
Toqom
Well ya, he's showing the people good governance and the corrupt people don't like that as he isn't pro-pedophilia like the Republicans love
keyserv
Son of a bitch cleaned up my diaper mountain. Now I can't smell when it's high noon. Total bullshit!
mithiwithi
Just use a dead rat alarm clock.
Hatsodoom
Get out of here Asmongold.
NewZealandKiwi
Fugheddaboudit iykyk
BeaverOnFire
Oh wait.... I'm thinking of a different pissed on politician.
1stDrunkJoe
Does it count if he shits on himself?
BeaverOnFire
CaldariBob
Spray FTW!
BeaverOnFire
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secretagentchewbacca
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BeaverOnFire
riverpubby
Ty
m0rose
Oh thank god
BeaverOnFire
SinStar87
Im pissed he's accepting credit for shit the last mayor or governor did before he was in office. but apparently that's only an issue when it's republicans who do it.
queernosaur
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Hexidimentional
the bin program has been on the books and ready to go whenever for decades, mamdani pushed it through
SinStar87
https://youtu.be/8AJ4Bt2NCZQ this is from 24, mamdani didn't run until 25 right?
SinStar87
from what I read, adams pushed it through in 24, didn't come into effect until mamdani's term started. Then there's the state's free schooling and childcare acts that the governor pushed b4 mamdani won the primary and the state's 2nd house tax when his 2% rich tax died in legislature. Major Stuff he's done is 0'd the deficit, line itemed library budgets, and got a land bill for the city groceries.
BananaForScaIe
https://www.vitalcitynyc.org/what-has-mamdani-done-so-far/ Seems like a slightly larger list? Dunno though, I'm not from NYC.
FractalShoggoth
100% down with tracing the proper origins of things and giving proper credit. But if we're comparing this to Republican behavior, then we need to find the prior moment where Mamdani et al tried to stop this from happening, before taking credit once it was clear it was happening anyway.
*That* part is what makes the Republican examples so vile.
SinStar87
interesting, degrees of wrongness in the sameactions. That's something to think on, thank you.
FractalShoggoth
They're not the same actions, is my point. If Mamdani is taking credit for someone else's work, then he should rightfully be called out for it. But it's not a direct mirror of Republican behavior unless he also tried to stop said work from happening beforehand.
SinStar87
https://youtu.be/8AJ4Bt2NCZQ here's a vid from 24 of adams rolling out the nyc trash bins program. /gallery/we-loved-giant-piles-of-rats-cockroaches-IUIxm9m here's mamdani being credited for it in 26.
rfleming1080
If Republicans are allowed to do it, so is he. Get reckt, loser. Lmao
SinStar87
You think republicans should be allowed to do it?
choppedliveraldente
They don't. That's why people are mad. Im throwing you a rope here brother.
SinStar87
So, again, why's it wrong for republicans but not for demsocs? Like why's trump *rightly* on the front page for jacking biden's prescription policy but mamdani's not for adams' trash bins?
yallmfsneedjesus
Ooo here it is guys! I was wondering what MAGAs were going to say when Mamdani started making the city better objectively. It's this! "It was really the republican mayor who did all of it it just happened to go into effect during Mamdani's reign." Okay bro.
SinStar87
Was a dem mayor, and governor's a dem. and top reply to me even says the bin was setup decades ago, and *wrongly as it was indeed adams* mamdani finally pushed the ok button.
SinStar87
https://youtu.be/8AJ4Bt2NCZQ
BananaForScaIe
"Yeah he is doing great stuff but I'm pissed cause he's taking credit for other great stuff" is ... odd, to me. Politicians are going to politick. As long as great stuff IS happening, I don' tmind if the new politicans takes more credit than they deserve as long as they are ALSO doing great stuff not just riding coattails.
Ultimately someone has to celebrate the win, and just like in companies, it tends to be whoever's in charge at the time of the win.
SinStar87
So you're cheering trump over the prescriptions, then? And I don't know what he's done is 'great' more than the bare minimum of governance.
BananaForScaIe
I said as long as he's also doing great stuff. I did say that, twice, right? If Trump was like "hey healthcare costs are down thanks to me" and included prescriptoin drug prices (that actually went down, not just promised) then yeah I'd give EVEN trump a pass on the politicking.
Since he is actively increasing overall costs, the drug prices were a smokescreen, and he's NOT doing other great things... then my statement stands.
SinStar87
And I said i'm pissed mamdani's accepting credit for stuff he had no involvement in. Odd to me to say that's fine as long as you like something else he's doing.