Apr 19, 2017 8:21 PM
SonOfSanguinus
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kilrvela
Dark energy.....
jetpackabs
https://phys.org/news/2017-04-physicists-negative-mass.html
Thisiscoolshit
I swear I did this in college chemistry class. No, I don't think it was an error in measuring the mass beforehand. (Joke)
Demenster
Did I hear someone say Element zero?
TheJackBurton
It's not bs. https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2017-04-physicists-negative-mass.amp
TheGuyWithTheMagikarpTattoo
That's the first step to making wormholes. That's one small step towards a great many things.
futureiscold258
Sauce. www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39642992
Shinpuu
Excuse me?
Linarok
Isn't negative mass like wormholes and shit though
ifPokemonWereReal
But can they explain why kids love cunnamon toast crunch?
usernamesarenotmystrongpoint
Negative mass=reverse gravity=hover boards.
TheOneTrueJoebot
You crash into a wall and instead of bouncing back you just crash even harder
PotassiumLover
That is indeed how this stuff works... worth it
CoolDud3
FarenDin69
Omg, live TV on my phone or tablet!!!!
SlashyFace
Can't wait to wake up one day inside a black hole!
GoldFrieza
Sounds like FAKE
Gandalfsuglybrother
And yet it's not.
sqlyoda
You know how a rotating mass will exert a torque force that's orthogonal to the direction of rotation? Well couldn't a negative mass (1)
(2) use the same force on one side, like a bicycle folding in half, in order to create unlimited energy? This has to be an observation error
Itchy73
It "behaves" like negative mass momentarily. But it's not
GalvinGreene
Yeah, I want to read the publication to see what they think is going on and what they did exactly to cause this.
InJenius
Warp drive motherfukas!
bundleofwoodensticks
KevlarC
So we had a fake news trend, now it's time for a fake science trend too...oh humanity, what will we do with you?
I believe sauce is there
www.google.co.uk/search?site=&source=hp&ei=avr7WMfENY74wQLR1Ss&q=negative+mass&oq=&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.1.2.41l3.0.0.0.5661.1.1.0.1.1.0.375.37
No
It's not at all what the paper suggested, it's a complete misunderstanding by the media who are clearly not educated in particle physics lol
surefang
ffs this isn't negative mass. This is no different than putting a backspin on a bowling ball, albeit at a much smaller scale.
We will advise the actual scientists. And they spent all that time and money chilling atoms to just over absolute zero and all.
I'm not trying to belittle what they achieved. This is bloody impressive. But let people be impressed for what it is rather than making 1/
it into something it's not. That part I put on the writer of the article and OP rather than the scientists. 2/2
GansoEstaMuerto
Gray808
So much dumb in one headline.
Why?
OK, seems I'm wrong. A physicist friend says it's valid, but really hard to explain, as in they don't get into it until graduate-level (1/2)
physics courses. The "negative mass" and "backwards acceleration" set off my "bullshit pseuduscience" detectors. I was wrong.
Fair enough. Points for coming back and saying that. Rarely happens here.
whiskeyromeotx
I don't understand. If it's meant to do the reverse of newtons law, then earths gravity is at 9.81m/s^2, this fluid should float up
Not if it is in some sort of container
Yeah I've always wondered how they do that. Since the gravitational field by earth being GM/r^2. What container would distort?
Even in a vacuum the gravitational field would still play a factor. Our air is just a medium.
GreatEel3
Which ways backwards
Wells that's the crazy things.. Newton's third law has to do with opposing forces. Essentially force on matter pushes back before moving.
UncleLeos
Negative mass/energy is what is theorized as necessary for actual warp drive systems. Pretty cool.
Don't get too excited you're still looking for about -1 nonillion tones of that for the alcubierre drive.
Very true! It's exciting if confirmed because until now we couldn't even be sure negative mass existed at all.
LordStarkillerHimself
I want a warp drive
With a personal warp drive, you could take it AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR BUTT
I know right, that'd be badass.
TheCalvinintheWoods
This is weird, but can anybody tell me how this could be applied practically if it were scaled up? I can't think of anything.
XiYen13
Non-consumable reaction mass for spacecraft launch systems?
Hm. I guess if it reacts to the "pull" from gravity, and starts going up?
Negative mass/energy is what is theorized as necessary for actual warp drive systems.
Think of space travel, if mass shifts towards 0 when momentum is greater than 0, then velocity increases
I guess I'm not gathering that from "With negative mass, if you push something, it accelerates toward you." It just sounds like it becomes-
-harder and harder to move. Right?
bomboy23
I think as soon as force stops being applied, it rebounds back. Like a baseball that flies backwards when you release it
Hm, maybe. I guess we need more information! :D
eksoskel
The concept of 'scaling it up' is pretty inconceivable right now. As is, the environment necessary to produce this effect requires...
supercooling the material. Just touching it would provide enough heat to make it behave quite normally. This is only useful as a pry into
some very extreme cases of particle physics so that we can check/write more fundamental physical laws we might get to exploit later.
Hailtheprince
What makes the acceleration backwards instead of that being its natural direction of movement?
I think it's something along the lines of pushing a balloon down under water?
IamAMON
In the article i read it's basically like pushing a glass across a table, but it pushes against your hand. No fuckin idea how that works tho
SCIENCE!
ArtOzz
So...if Im reading this right, the glass doesnt actually, ya know, move...like...at all?
brimax
It's not a glass, it's quantum mechanics. It's more like a glass on an conveyor belt, the belt moves to the right but the glass goes left
Only the glass is a particle and the conveyor belt is a force
SaturnineCult
Maybe that's why we can't see aliens: it's actually us that are "dark matter", compared to the other 95% of the universe.
UnitardAromas
So... Dark lives matter?
PunchMeInTheBeanBag
One of the best responses I've ever seen
JGregory32
Hold on, mobile device screen shot, no name of source, multiple share buttons, yep we got ourselves some bullshit over here.
ImageGuy22
It cites itself maybe?
vondruke
It clearly cites science.
Actually not bullshit. Google will confirm for you if you need...
apenland
Google will also confirm the earth is flat, and everyone has cancer. Get some real sources up in this bitch.
'You can't trust google' is the battle cry of idiots.
worldsokayestspeler
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.118.155301 This wants a subscription to see but you can read the abstract.
Yeah, except it isnt as Ive seen this half a dozen times in my news feeds for the last few days. Read more dumbass.
hyaenidae
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-39642992
Im gonna need more than a journalist writing about it, how bout the method they used and everything? It makes sense but Im skeptical.
Thecogwheel
Congrats you get @OP's upvote for providing the source he should have
Sauce added
Sorry, OP forgot the rules
Typical Perkuns
Also OP found it here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/04/19/physicists-create-mind-bending-negative-mass-accelerates-backwards/
SatanLordofHell
I preferred my life of ignorance you bastard
Will add for everyone when get on PC
GstrangWondah
But... "Science"
It's legit, check the top reply
Skepticism denied! ;)
kilrvela
Dark energy.....
jetpackabs
https://phys.org/news/2017-04-physicists-negative-mass.html
Thisiscoolshit
I swear I did this in college chemistry class. No, I don't think it was an error in measuring the mass beforehand. (Joke)
Demenster
Did I hear someone say Element zero?
TheJackBurton
It's not bs. https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2017-04-physicists-negative-mass.amp
TheGuyWithTheMagikarpTattoo
That's the first step to making wormholes. That's one small step towards a great many things.
futureiscold258
Sauce. www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-39642992
Shinpuu
Excuse me?
Linarok
Isn't negative mass like wormholes and shit though
ifPokemonWereReal
But can they explain why kids love cunnamon toast crunch?
usernamesarenotmystrongpoint
Negative mass=reverse gravity=hover boards.
TheOneTrueJoebot
You crash into a wall and instead of bouncing back you just crash even harder
PotassiumLover
That is indeed how this stuff works... worth it
CoolDud3
FarenDin69
Omg, live TV on my phone or tablet!!!!
SlashyFace
Can't wait to wake up one day inside a black hole!
GoldFrieza
Sounds like FAKE
Gandalfsuglybrother
And yet it's not.
sqlyoda
You know how a rotating mass will exert a torque force that's orthogonal to the direction of rotation? Well couldn't a negative mass (1)
sqlyoda
(2) use the same force on one side, like a bicycle folding in half, in order to create unlimited energy? This has to be an observation error
Itchy73
It "behaves" like negative mass momentarily. But it's not
GalvinGreene
Yeah, I want to read the publication to see what they think is going on and what they did exactly to cause this.
InJenius
Warp drive motherfukas!
bundleofwoodensticks
KevlarC
So we had a fake news trend, now it's time for a fake science trend too...oh humanity, what will we do with you?
SonOfSanguinus
I believe sauce is there
KevlarC
www.google.co.uk/search?site=&source=hp&ei=avr7WMfENY74wQLR1Ss&q=negative+mass&oq=&gs_l=mobile-gws-hp.1.2.41l3.0.0.0.5661.1.1.0.1.1.0.375.37
KevlarC
No
KevlarC
It's not at all what the paper suggested, it's a complete misunderstanding by the media who are clearly not educated in particle physics lol
surefang
ffs this isn't negative mass. This is no different than putting a backspin on a bowling ball, albeit at a much smaller scale.
Gandalfsuglybrother
We will advise the actual scientists. And they spent all that time and money chilling atoms to just over absolute zero and all.
surefang
I'm not trying to belittle what they achieved. This is bloody impressive. But let people be impressed for what it is rather than making 1/
surefang
it into something it's not. That part I put on the writer of the article and OP rather than the scientists. 2/2
GansoEstaMuerto
Gray808
So much dumb in one headline.
Gandalfsuglybrother
Why?
Gray808
OK, seems I'm wrong. A physicist friend says it's valid, but really hard to explain, as in they don't get into it until graduate-level (1/2)
Gray808
physics courses. The "negative mass" and "backwards acceleration" set off my "bullshit pseuduscience" detectors. I was wrong.
Gandalfsuglybrother
Fair enough. Points for coming back and saying that. Rarely happens here.
whiskeyromeotx
I don't understand. If it's meant to do the reverse of newtons law, then earths gravity is at 9.81m/s^2, this fluid should float up
SonOfSanguinus
Not if it is in some sort of container
whiskeyromeotx
Yeah I've always wondered how they do that. Since the gravitational field by earth being GM/r^2. What container would distort?
whiskeyromeotx
Even in a vacuum the gravitational field would still play a factor. Our air is just a medium.
GreatEel3
Which ways backwards
whiskeyromeotx
Wells that's the crazy things.. Newton's third law has to do with opposing forces. Essentially force on matter pushes back before moving.
UncleLeos
Negative mass/energy is what is theorized as necessary for actual warp drive systems. Pretty cool.
GalvinGreene
Don't get too excited you're still looking for about -1 nonillion tones of that for the alcubierre drive.
UncleLeos
Very true! It's exciting if confirmed because until now we couldn't even be sure negative mass existed at all.
LordStarkillerHimself
I want a warp drive
LordStarkillerHimself
With a personal warp drive, you could take it AND SHOVE IT UP YOUR BUTT
UncleLeos
I know right, that'd be badass.
TheCalvinintheWoods
This is weird, but can anybody tell me how this could be applied practically if it were scaled up? I can't think of anything.
XiYen13
Non-consumable reaction mass for spacecraft launch systems?
TheCalvinintheWoods
Hm. I guess if it reacts to the "pull" from gravity, and starts going up?
UncleLeos
Negative mass/energy is what is theorized as necessary for actual warp drive systems.
SonOfSanguinus
Think of space travel, if mass shifts towards 0 when momentum is greater than 0, then velocity increases
TheCalvinintheWoods
I guess I'm not gathering that from "With negative mass, if you push something, it accelerates toward you." It just sounds like it becomes-
TheCalvinintheWoods
-harder and harder to move. Right?
bomboy23
I think as soon as force stops being applied, it rebounds back. Like a baseball that flies backwards when you release it
TheCalvinintheWoods
Hm, maybe. I guess we need more information! :D
eksoskel
The concept of 'scaling it up' is pretty inconceivable right now. As is, the environment necessary to produce this effect requires...
eksoskel
supercooling the material. Just touching it would provide enough heat to make it behave quite normally. This is only useful as a pry into
eksoskel
some very extreme cases of particle physics so that we can check/write more fundamental physical laws we might get to exploit later.
Hailtheprince
What makes the acceleration backwards instead of that being its natural direction of movement?
bomboy23
I think it's something along the lines of pushing a balloon down under water?
IamAMON
In the article i read it's basically like pushing a glass across a table, but it pushes against your hand. No fuckin idea how that works tho
PotassiumLover
SCIENCE!
ArtOzz
So...if Im reading this right, the glass doesnt actually, ya know, move...like...at all?
brimax
It's not a glass, it's quantum mechanics. It's more like a glass on an conveyor belt, the belt moves to the right but the glass goes left
brimax
Only the glass is a particle and the conveyor belt is a force
SaturnineCult
Maybe that's why we can't see aliens: it's actually us that are "dark matter", compared to the other 95% of the universe.
UnitardAromas
So... Dark lives matter?
PunchMeInTheBeanBag
One of the best responses I've ever seen
JGregory32
Hold on, mobile device screen shot, no name of source, multiple share buttons, yep we got ourselves some bullshit over here.
ImageGuy22
It cites itself maybe?
vondruke
It clearly cites science.
usernamesarenotmystrongpoint
Actually not bullshit. Google will confirm for you if you need...
apenland
Google will also confirm the earth is flat, and everyone has cancer. Get some real sources up in this bitch.
usernamesarenotmystrongpoint
'You can't trust google' is the battle cry of idiots.
worldsokayestspeler
https://journals.aps.org/prl/abstract/10.1103/PhysRevLett.118.155301 This wants a subscription to see but you can read the abstract.
jetpackabs
https://phys.org/news/2017-04-physicists-negative-mass.html
ArtOzz
Yeah, except it isnt as Ive seen this half a dozen times in my news feeds for the last few days. Read more dumbass.
hyaenidae
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-39642992
worldsokayestspeler
Im gonna need more than a journalist writing about it, how bout the method they used and everything? It makes sense but Im skeptical.
Thecogwheel
Congrats you get @OP's upvote for providing the source he should have
SonOfSanguinus
Sauce added
SonOfSanguinus
Sorry, OP forgot the rules
TheOneTrueJoebot
Typical Perkuns
SonOfSanguinus
Also OP found it here http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/2017/04/19/physicists-create-mind-bending-negative-mass-accelerates-backwards/
SatanLordofHell
I preferred my life of ignorance you bastard
SonOfSanguinus
Will add for everyone when get on PC
GstrangWondah
But... "Science"
PotassiumLover
It's legit, check the top reply
GstrangWondah
Skepticism denied! ;)