Mar 16, 2017 10:16 PM
DilligafDiva
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Sauce/Recording: https://youtu.be/oET1WaG5sFk
Hiagg
Of all the people to have such a soothing voice
Bulldozer2017
Fascinating! Thank you for that.
angiemorris
he sounded kinda hot
herstory
bone chilling.
Mushroombadger
Kappas Marski Perkele. Hakkaa päälle pohjanpoika!
OpOnion
Nice
heartlesscrush
This post is literally Hitler
L0KiTAxXx
.
Iamhedonismbot
Interesting.
RVME
Fascinating story right from the mouth of a calculating killer.
thran87
Did Finland secretly record EVERYTHING he said while there? Yes. Why? Because Mannerheim had utter disdain for him.
ManDonkey
Very interesting post. At first I thought I was gonna get Rick Roll'd.
IKeepChangingMyUsername
This was really interesting. Thanks, @OP
My pleasure!
shamalamaderp
Man in the High Castle scenario if he didn't invade Russia. Very scary thought
Morrigi
With what navy?
helgur
I really don't see them winning. Germany would have turned into a radioactive wasteland
bananatoast
Such a good show!
GuyNamedSean
What's the story on why this recording exists?
RoloTonyBrown
The meeting was in a train car. It was secretly recorded by a Finnish officer. Hitler/the Germans didn't know at the time.
Shloobs
Huh. Neat.
DocEZ
It's crazy how he mentions that a two front war would break Germany... he must of really lost his mind at the end
IAmBoredAtWork
Yep, that is what i thought when i heard that part
Feralkyn
It sounded to me like he was saying a two-war front would break germany but they had to do it anyway, and was explaining why they were
gonna lose, and why they had to do it?
Myotherusernameistaken
There's a recording of hitler flirting with a camera girl...
implodingrat
wasnt it actually Eva Braun recording him? And he says something to the effect of "why are you filming a tired old man? i should film you."
That might be true I haven't seen the video in a while
breguet
There is a document called "Göringin sauva", from this meeting, some finnish should add CC text. Source https://youtu.be/qT6vstBDa-0
Wilhod
TORILLE!
KANNAKSELLE!
BallsToYouSirAndOrMadam
It's always unsettling hearing hitler talk like a person and not a frothing lunatic; a harsh reminder that anyone can commit atrocities.
JewishMonk
If you've never seen Triumph of the Will, you should. It's an old Nazi propaganda film and it's absolutely fascinating.
It sounds familiar, I'll have to look into it; I'm fascinated by propoganda and social engineering.
Trojkan
I mean, propaganda aside, that film was way ahead of it's time when it came to filming techniques.
spockforpresident
crunchyDANGERhaystacks
Fascinating
GrundleFondler
Fascistinating
Ha
TwoShedsJackson2
Wow. Thank you. Fascinating.
Don't you mean fascistnating?
LitteralyHitler
Oh jew.
JohnnyDeformed
What does his abnormal speaking voice sound like?
DoctorGaiusBaltar
Yelling about Jews?
mossysabertoothtiger
autistic screeching
ImPrettySure
Damn, that gif is way longer than I realized.
GavManDu
Speeches. Fiery, hyped voice.
CWBcertified
If Hitler never underestimated Stalin's military, and broke the NAP between them, the world may be a much different place today.
Hail Hortler
[deleted]
bezukhov
In Edvard Radzinsky's biography of Stalin, he makes a compelling case that Stalin was about to attack. Anyway, NAP was inherently unstable.
TogepiOmelette
watch Man in the Highcastle
wildcatfan4life
Was looking for this comment.
aw ye
vocalminority
If something different had happened things would be different? Who knew.
Watch your mouth son, or I'll make ya drop trow, pick a switch
Give me lip, I will take you to the yard, get a stick, make a switch - I can end this conversation real quick.
heyerc
The Man in the High Castle is sometimes difficult to watch. Nazi culture gives me the creeps.
DeafVader11
Even the imperial jap culture too. They are both nasty for sure. Hell, I don't want the Soviet culture too. They make people disappear.
Tarantino should buy that script
And make it good
Spice that shit up son
bbq336
And if I hadn't underestimated the shittyness of the pizza I had earlier tonight, I wouldn't be having explosive diarrhea right now :(
Enjjoyy your za
Fuck jaws
I'm fucking starved, fucker
Arcian
Can confirm, have played Hoi4.
Enohpoxas
Wolfenstein: The New Order?
Overdonespawn
You have nothing to gain from underestimating your enemies
blairmichod
You do if you overcommit resources that could be better allocated elsewhere.
Baroonz
And you have everything to gain from understanding your enemies
TheUnapologeticCanadian
If he just left Russia alone and focused on Europe, he might have held out. He almost literally poked the bear, and created two superpowers.
Yoloswagforjesus
Russia was going to attack Germany anyway.
AtroposM
Fighting a defensive war might have been winnable for Germany as they had better armaments than Russia. Hitler lost to a logistical mishap.
WhellerNG
Not really. The Soviet-German NAP was the two buying time. The two were ideologically opposed. They both fully expected to break it. (1/2)
Germany just got there first. (2/2)
lobosrul
Which is why the Red Army's complete lack of preparedness for war is so baffling.
Muffinman41
Exactly, Stalin was trying to buy time to get ready for the inevitable invasion. His military was weak from WWI, civil war and purges.
Not true
I'm from NL,, we come ya n packs
Arrrr
SeriouslyMissingThePoint
Part of the argument is that if Germany had let the Soviet Union build up anymore, there would have been more communist states by the end.
Nar trar
infernalspectre
But imagine if he and Japan both invaded Russia together, and let the US stay isolationist for even longer.
Japan was deathly afraid of the USSR after the battle of Khalkhin Gol. Wasn't gonna happen. In fact Japan had no foreknowledge of Barbarossa
StonesOnTheHill
Still feels like two average sized dogs going after a bear. Could work, probably wouldn't.
SilentJoe0o
Considering it was a sick and weakened bear with poor decision making, they probably would. Source: history classes in Russian school.
JohnnyTitelips
Part of that was that Italy was incompetent and got the fuck kicked out of it by Greece, forcing Hitler to help, delaying his invasion (1/2)
so that it lasted into the winter. Which, if there's one thing you don't wanna do, it's invade Russia during the winter.
TheGhostofLouReed
And if Vercingetorix hadn't surrendered to Caesar at Alesia, the world would be even MOAR different today.
wearebestfwends
The painting of Vercingetorix surrendering to Ceasar is amazing.
AnyoneWantAPeanut
CatsandDnD
Yup, that's a nice painting.
sanders1004
My favorite version (possibly even better): http://www.weblettres.net/blogs/uploads/e/Elissa/51629.png
Yup! The exaggerated frowns on Casaer and his cohorts are only a bit of what I love about it.
Paintings suggest to me that that is Caesar's default face.
batterupob
You the real MVP
HaYouLose
Vercingetorix did not have much choice. They would have all starved to death.
RandCauthon
Well probably not that different than today, but pre 2017 would have been totally different.
Ei??!
Bad, we live in nazi America joke.
PredictiveAnalyticMachine
I never imagined him to have such a deep voice
Taur622
Similar pitch-range as Kevin Spacey.
parabolic000
Throat damage from mustard gas in WWI. His shrill speaking voice was to help it project; he had to practice it a lot.
causality
Jesus he sounds just like John Banner. I'll never see Sergeant Shultz the same way again.
SchulzR1993
I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing
Gr1mmR3aper
Thought the same thing myself.
HitlersRupturedColon
No one sounds the same being recorded. No one
yourkiddingrightnow
His thought flow like the donald
TheAdventuresofStealy
That's called "conversational". You know, because it's a conversation and not fucking oratory.
mthrndr01
For an opposite experience, look up Jackie Robinson speaking.
kgbofficer
Or Teddy Roosevelt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhlzdjPGxrs
megathug
Wow O_O Not expecting that voice at all.
whyteraven74
Or Patton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9DpKDwCJcM
Teddy Roosevelt trumps that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhlzdjPGxrs
That's exactly what I expected. He sounds like a Roosevelt.
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
Or David Beckham
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhlzdjPGxrs
eroso
A heroic story about the Finnish alliance: Finnish president Ryti made the deal with Nazis to stop the Soviets. He made it so that he was(+)
(+)personally responsible of it, not the country. This alliance was enough to hold the Soviets away from FInland, so they marched to Berlin+
(+) instead. After the war Ryti was sentenced to 10 years in a torture room. His sacrifice made him one the greatest Finnish national heroes
Jyrs
Let me clear this up, the "torture room" isn't exactly torturing, its just a somewhat harsher version of the usual prison sentence.(+)
Risto Ryti is not a Finnish national hero, rather he is blamed for joining the Continuation War, that was the reason Finland lost more land.
Oh and Ryti didn't serve his whole sentence, he was pardoned by Paasikivi.
Mavgurian
Harsh winters is not the only harsh thing you have up there.
Hiagg
Of all the people to have such a soothing voice
Bulldozer2017
Fascinating! Thank you for that.
angiemorris
he sounded kinda hot
herstory
bone chilling.
Mushroombadger
Kappas Marski Perkele. Hakkaa päälle pohjanpoika!
OpOnion
Nice
heartlesscrush
This post is literally Hitler
L0KiTAxXx
.
Iamhedonismbot
Interesting.
RVME
Fascinating story right from the mouth of a calculating killer.
thran87
Did Finland secretly record EVERYTHING he said while there? Yes. Why? Because Mannerheim had utter disdain for him.
ManDonkey
Very interesting post. At first I thought I was gonna get Rick Roll'd.
IKeepChangingMyUsername
This was really interesting. Thanks, @OP
DilligafDiva
My pleasure!
shamalamaderp
Man in the High Castle scenario if he didn't invade Russia. Very scary thought
Morrigi
With what navy?
helgur
I really don't see them winning. Germany would have turned into a radioactive wasteland
bananatoast
Such a good show!
GuyNamedSean
What's the story on why this recording exists?
RoloTonyBrown
The meeting was in a train car. It was secretly recorded by a Finnish officer. Hitler/the Germans didn't know at the time.
Shloobs
Huh. Neat.
DocEZ
It's crazy how he mentions that a two front war would break Germany... he must of really lost his mind at the end
IAmBoredAtWork
Yep, that is what i thought when i heard that part
Feralkyn
It sounded to me like he was saying a two-war front would break germany but they had to do it anyway, and was explaining why they were
Feralkyn
gonna lose, and why they had to do it?
Myotherusernameistaken
There's a recording of hitler flirting with a camera girl...
implodingrat
wasnt it actually Eva Braun recording him? And he says something to the effect of "why are you filming a tired old man? i should film you."
Myotherusernameistaken
That might be true I haven't seen the video in a while
breguet
There is a document called "Göringin sauva", from this meeting, some finnish should add CC text. Source https://youtu.be/qT6vstBDa-0
Wilhod
TORILLE!
Mushroombadger
KANNAKSELLE!
BallsToYouSirAndOrMadam
It's always unsettling hearing hitler talk like a person and not a frothing lunatic; a harsh reminder that anyone can commit atrocities.
JewishMonk
If you've never seen Triumph of the Will, you should. It's an old Nazi propaganda film and it's absolutely fascinating.
BallsToYouSirAndOrMadam
It sounds familiar, I'll have to look into it; I'm fascinated by propoganda and social engineering.
Trojkan
I mean, propaganda aside, that film was way ahead of it's time when it came to filming techniques.
spockforpresident
crunchyDANGERhaystacks
Feralkyn
Fascinating
GrundleFondler
Fascistinating
Feralkyn
Ha
TwoShedsJackson2
Wow. Thank you. Fascinating.
Mushroombadger
Don't you mean fascistnating?
LitteralyHitler
Oh jew.
JohnnyDeformed
What does his abnormal speaking voice sound like?
DoctorGaiusBaltar
Yelling about Jews?
mossysabertoothtiger
autistic screeching
ImPrettySure
ImPrettySure
Damn, that gif is way longer than I realized.
GavManDu
Speeches. Fiery, hyped voice.
CWBcertified
If Hitler never underestimated Stalin's military, and broke the NAP between them, the world may be a much different place today.
CWBcertified
Hail Hortler
[deleted]
[deleted]
[deleted]
[deleted]
bezukhov
In Edvard Radzinsky's biography of Stalin, he makes a compelling case that Stalin was about to attack. Anyway, NAP was inherently unstable.
TogepiOmelette
watch Man in the Highcastle
wildcatfan4life
Was looking for this comment.
TogepiOmelette
aw ye
vocalminority
If something different had happened things would be different? Who knew.
CWBcertified
Watch your mouth son, or I'll make ya drop trow, pick a switch
vocalminority
Give me lip, I will take you to the yard, get a stick, make a switch - I can end this conversation real quick.
heyerc
The Man in the High Castle is sometimes difficult to watch. Nazi culture gives me the creeps.
DeafVader11
Even the imperial jap culture too. They are both nasty for sure. Hell, I don't want the Soviet culture too. They make people disappear.
CWBcertified
Tarantino should buy that script
CWBcertified
And make it good
CWBcertified
Spice that shit up son
bbq336
And if I hadn't underestimated the shittyness of the pizza I had earlier tonight, I wouldn't be having explosive diarrhea right now :(
CWBcertified
Enjjoyy your za
CWBcertified
Fuck jaws
CWBcertified
I'm fucking starved, fucker
Arcian
Can confirm, have played Hoi4.
Enohpoxas
Wolfenstein: The New Order?
Overdonespawn
You have nothing to gain from underestimating your enemies
blairmichod
You do if you overcommit resources that could be better allocated elsewhere.
Baroonz
And you have everything to gain from understanding your enemies
TheUnapologeticCanadian
If he just left Russia alone and focused on Europe, he might have held out. He almost literally poked the bear, and created two superpowers.
Yoloswagforjesus
Russia was going to attack Germany anyway.
AtroposM
Fighting a defensive war might have been winnable for Germany as they had better armaments than Russia. Hitler lost to a logistical mishap.
WhellerNG
Not really. The Soviet-German NAP was the two buying time. The two were ideologically opposed. They both fully expected to break it. (1/2)
WhellerNG
Germany just got there first. (2/2)
lobosrul
Which is why the Red Army's complete lack of preparedness for war is so baffling.
Muffinman41
Exactly, Stalin was trying to buy time to get ready for the inevitable invasion. His military was weak from WWI, civil war and purges.
CWBcertified
Not true
CWBcertified
I'm from NL,, we come ya n packs
CWBcertified
Arrrr
SeriouslyMissingThePoint
Part of the argument is that if Germany had let the Soviet Union build up anymore, there would have been more communist states by the end.
CWBcertified
Nar trar
infernalspectre
But imagine if he and Japan both invaded Russia together, and let the US stay isolationist for even longer.
lobosrul
Japan was deathly afraid of the USSR after the battle of Khalkhin Gol. Wasn't gonna happen. In fact Japan had no foreknowledge of Barbarossa
StonesOnTheHill
Still feels like two average sized dogs going after a bear. Could work, probably wouldn't.
SilentJoe0o
Considering it was a sick and weakened bear with poor decision making, they probably would. Source: history classes in Russian school.
JohnnyTitelips
Part of that was that Italy was incompetent and got the fuck kicked out of it by Greece, forcing Hitler to help, delaying his invasion (1/2)
JohnnyTitelips
so that it lasted into the winter. Which, if there's one thing you don't wanna do, it's invade Russia during the winter.
TheGhostofLouReed
And if Vercingetorix hadn't surrendered to Caesar at Alesia, the world would be even MOAR different today.
wearebestfwends
The painting of Vercingetorix surrendering to Ceasar is amazing.
AnyoneWantAPeanut
CatsandDnD
Yup, that's a nice painting.
sanders1004
My favorite version (possibly even better): http://www.weblettres.net/blogs/uploads/e/Elissa/51629.png
wearebestfwends
Yup! The exaggerated frowns on Casaer and his cohorts are only a bit of what I love about it.
blairmichod
Paintings suggest to me that that is Caesar's default face.
batterupob
You the real MVP
HaYouLose
Vercingetorix did not have much choice. They would have all starved to death.
RandCauthon
Well probably not that different than today, but pre 2017 would have been totally different.
CWBcertified
Ei??!
RandCauthon
Bad, we live in nazi America joke.
PredictiveAnalyticMachine
I never imagined him to have such a deep voice
Taur622
Similar pitch-range as Kevin Spacey.
parabolic000
Throat damage from mustard gas in WWI. His shrill speaking voice was to help it project; he had to practice it a lot.
causality
Jesus he sounds just like John Banner. I'll never see Sergeant Shultz the same way again.
SchulzR1993
I hear nothing, I see nothing, I know nothing
Gr1mmR3aper
Thought the same thing myself.
HitlersRupturedColon
No one sounds the same being recorded. No one
parabolic000
Throat damage from mustard gas in WWI. His shrill speaking voice was to help it project; he had to practice it a lot.
yourkiddingrightnow
His thought flow like the donald
TheAdventuresofStealy
That's called "conversational". You know, because it's a conversation and not fucking oratory.
mthrndr01
For an opposite experience, look up Jackie Robinson speaking.
kgbofficer
Or Teddy Roosevelt https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhlzdjPGxrs
megathug
Wow O_O Not expecting that voice at all.
whyteraven74
Or Patton https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9DpKDwCJcM
kgbofficer
Teddy Roosevelt trumps that https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhlzdjPGxrs
GuyNamedSean
That's exactly what I expected. He sounds like a Roosevelt.
TheresnoDanaonlyZuul
Or David Beckham
kgbofficer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhlzdjPGxrs
eroso
A heroic story about the Finnish alliance: Finnish president Ryti made the deal with Nazis to stop the Soviets. He made it so that he was(+)
eroso
(+)personally responsible of it, not the country. This alliance was enough to hold the Soviets away from FInland, so they marched to Berlin+
eroso
(+) instead. After the war Ryti was sentenced to 10 years in a torture room. His sacrifice made him one the greatest Finnish national heroes
Jyrs
Let me clear this up, the "torture room" isn't exactly torturing, its just a somewhat harsher version of the usual prison sentence.(+)
Jyrs
Risto Ryti is not a Finnish national hero, rather he is blamed for joining the Continuation War, that was the reason Finland lost more land.
Jyrs
Oh and Ryti didn't serve his whole sentence, he was pardoned by Paasikivi.
Mavgurian
Harsh winters is not the only harsh thing you have up there.