Hey! He might have been some other kind of brown that they’re racist against! And if not, he cares about women, which is soft and gay and not allowed in my ultra-warrior manland! (/s)
Yeah - the US army was also hella racist, I wouldn't exactly hold the original antifa up as a moral standard. They fought fascism, and that's good. That doesn't make them inherently good people, it makes them not fascist people.
Yeah, I suppose I could've said "anti-that-particular-brand-of-fascism-so-long-as-it-was-foreign". I don't doubt there were a number of people in that war from the US who had participated in Nazi rallies here in the US in earlier years.
The "Just following orders war criminals?" Im sure the uber-patriots still think it was a just cause. Anyone not blinded by nationalism and willful ignorance can see it for what it was.
Do you know the difference between a lawful order and a war crime? Accidental tragedy happens in war, one of the many reasons why war sucks. Bad intel and an accident are not the same as intentionally targeting civilians. Looking at you, Russia, and Israel. As a person who went to war and bombed 2 countries. The U.S. never intentionally committed a war crime, though accidents and rogue psychopaths have happened. The new administration, I don't trust, though. They have no honor.
While this is a shitshow, there is a reason why women shouldn't serve in infantry roles including paratroopers. Quite simply it's the same reason we have separated sports. The best physically trained woman cannot stand up to a man with the same conditioning, and that may decide life or death in combat.
However, nothing stops women to be pilots (shorter, better g resistance) or serve in multiple similar combat and non-combat roles.
In a Ukraine level emergency though you take what you can get
maybe for formations that don't require peak physical condition (debatable those should exist but I know soldiers who have atrocious PT) that would work. But not paratroopers, their whole shtick is behind enemy lines with no support, in extreme conditions, over many days.
Whatever physical requirements that exist should be met. Whatever gender. You want someone with outstanding stamina? Chicks got that. Making due with less food? Chicks. The men need to meet metrics. The women must meet the same. Why is this even a discussion?
sure, but it's been already done and has been a waste of taxpayer's money. No need to repeat that thoroughly done experiment. Why are we disputing facts? But hey, if any country wants to do that, why not, not my circus not my monkies. 3 months later we're going to be eyerolling at feminazis dropping articles like "army physical tests are misogynist"... And not for the usual reason
Oof. The "feminazi" thing really says it all. There's no waste. Bunch of recruits try to meet metrics. Some fail. Every now and again a woman will likely meet the metric. She'll likely be treated badly enough by the men who assume she could NEVER EVER have been as tough as their alpha male, high value selves that she'll quit. Well done. Walnut.
Pelican3
The Praetorian Guard got rid of 17 of the Caesars. They had the training, the weapons, and most importantly the access.
Psycopaz
Hegseth is a spherical bastard. Because hes a dastardly from whatever direction you look. (Insult stolen from fritz zwicky)
TacoFox
I'm waiting for someone in black ops to get fired like this and then goes off to take care of business.
pineapplecatastrophe
Regular Nazi shit, clearing military leadership of anyone with a spine
Hovencl00f
What are the odds that he was Black and therefore "low intelligence" by Trumpian standards?
adamlstf9
Hey! He might have been some other kind of brown that they’re racist against! And if not, he cares about women, which is soft and gay and not allowed in my ultra-warrior manland! (/s)
nikinnorway12
It's about purging people. The gender thing is just an excuse that they find convenient.
MCNewYorkLives
Call it "paratrooping pussies". See how many MEN sign up.
But seriously, it's so funny how these grown ass men need to feel included. Fucking snowflakes.
BrickSprickly
Thats my old unit. How far we've fallen....
kahooki
As viewed from outside the US:
You never stopped falling and reaching new depths every day.
Wish you truly all the best (no sarcasm).
BrickSprickly
Thank you friend
ReaperCDN
Ad astra per ardua. Through adversity to the stars.
Bobby didn't make it. But Dutch did. Know your enemy. Identify their weaknesses. Exploit them.
BrickSprickly
<3
ATastyCorpsesicle
To be fffaaaiiirrr... Lotta those in 1944 would've probably had the same reaction.
pgdave
Yeah - the US army was also hella racist, I wouldn't exactly hold the original antifa up as a moral standard. They fought fascism, and that's good. That doesn't make them inherently good people, it makes them not fascist people.
SirButcher
I tend to drive near this place:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bamber_Bridge
Cearnaigh
Which, to be fffaaaiiirrr², makes them immeasurably more superior to today's fascists' yes men.
pgdave
Yeah - given the option of a racist who fights nazis or a racist nazi, I'll take the racist who fights nazis, generally.
Scahrossar
The latter probably mostly by accident. The US was happy to let fascists do their thing as long as they left them alone.
pgdave
Yeah, I suppose I could've said "anti-that-particular-brand-of-fascism-so-long-as-it-was-foreign". I don't doubt there were a number of people in that war from the US who had participated in Nazi rallies here in the US in earlier years.
daguq
Do Americans still consider what the troops did in Iraq as valiant?
Church14
Generally it’s “respect those who were willing to serve, even when those who command them are literal biblical evil.”
Which usually works, or did till we had an alcoholic white supremecist as a secretary
daguq
Also known as the Nuremburg Defense.
kinarism
Most of us never did at the time.
LeonBrooks
The "Just following orders war criminals?" Im sure the uber-patriots still think it was a just cause. Anyone not blinded by nationalism and willful ignorance can see it for what it was.
11Weasel11
Do you know the difference between a lawful order and a war crime? Accidental tragedy happens in war, one of the many reasons why war sucks. Bad intel and an accident are not the same as intentionally targeting civilians. Looking at you, Russia, and Israel. As a person who went to war and bombed 2 countries. The U.S. never intentionally committed a war crime, though accidents and rogue psychopaths have happened. The new administration, I don't trust, though. They have no honor.
cadesama
How is going to war on false pretenses not a war crime in and of itself?
11Weasel11
That is not the soldier's crime. His crime is killing civilians, raping the women. Again, you are confusing command decisions with actial war crimes.
thatunpleasantfeeling
Yeah, we can't say we never intentionally committed a war crime or targeted civilians anymore.
11Weasel11
Yeah, it's kinda gone pear-shaped lately.
drivergrrl
Whoops, bombed a school in Iran, 120+ children dead, but it was an aCciDeNt!
11Weasel11
Nope, wrong administration. That's like saying Roosevelt was responsible for Vietnam.
SuperPickle17
> The U.S. never intentionally committed a war crime.
oh... so none of these are intentional? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_war_crimes#Vietnam_War
11Weasel11
The first line is "estimated."
WaxedApple
"with a range between 4,000 and 10,000" you dipshit
TyrCarter
While this is a shitshow, there is a reason why women shouldn't serve in infantry roles including paratroopers. Quite simply it's the same reason we have separated sports. The best physically trained woman cannot stand up to a man with the same conditioning, and that may decide life or death in combat.
However, nothing stops women to be pilots (shorter, better g resistance) or serve in multiple similar combat and non-combat roles.
In a Ukraine level emergency though you take what you can get
textilelover
They don't have to stand up to the best, just the standard. If they can meet that physical standard, let them.
TyrCarter
maybe for formations that don't require peak physical condition (debatable those should exist but I know soldiers who have atrocious PT) that would work. But not paratroopers, their whole shtick is behind enemy lines with no support, in extreme conditions, over many days.
textilelover
Whatever physical requirements that exist should be met. Whatever gender. You want someone with outstanding stamina? Chicks got that. Making due with less food? Chicks. The men need to meet metrics. The women must meet the same. Why is this even a discussion?
TyrCarter
sure, but it's been already done and has been a waste of taxpayer's money. No need to repeat that thoroughly done experiment. Why are we disputing facts? But hey, if any country wants to do that, why not, not my circus not my monkies. 3 months later we're going to be eyerolling at feminazis dropping articles like "army physical tests are misogynist"... And not for the usual reason
textilelover
Oof. The "feminazi" thing really says it all. There's no waste. Bunch of recruits try to meet metrics. Some fail. Every now and again a woman will likely meet the metric. She'll likely be treated badly enough by the men who assume she could NEVER EVER have been as tough as their alpha male, high value selves that she'll quit. Well done. Walnut.
pleaseuseotherdoor
You just made up a scenario in your head and got big mad about it.