Jan 5, 2018 2:33 PM
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SATANSTOPSCREAMING
this is yes
WhiteIce2112
And what about that dara leak I'm hearing about
Nikolai5
It has. It's working with AMD.
But they don't intend to compete with AMD and Nvidia main series graphics cards.
TheRoyalDong
That ass upgrade
IThinkToastersAreSexy
FBI, OPEN UP
Svedish
Tatsumaki <3
InnerUniverse
When you've been playing on Intel graphics for years, stepping into Nvidia territory is like entering another dimension.
cylogenix
Intel needs to step up more than just its graphics game...
Vulspyr
She's 28.
Teddopolis
They make basic graphic calculations in the processor so you can at least have a visual computer instead of command line.
SpacemanSpiff1000
I always upvote one punch man
TheFunkyCodingMonkey
Intel hired the AMD graphics head. Interesting stuff coming.
PontiacGTX
Probably to compete against Nvidia on HPC market and maybe ln few years have plan to improve their dGpu
RobinYiff
Relevant:
Anon4000
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/022/961/tumblr_nyyd195sik1sw97sno1_500.jpg
TooStronkkk
Still. Good guy intel. The first pc game tat i played was Project IGI on a fuckin intel machine. Fuck u intel haters
Beelsebooob
Intel just started shipping AMD's Vega as on-board graphics on higher end chips.
Thebrassbell
Reminded me to check if Nvidia Had any updates...
Sephitian
Who is this sassy child?
FatalMerlin
Reading all the comments I come to realise that you misunderstood their intention. They include a graphics chip in their processed and are..
.. therefore lowering the price of e.g. laptops arrive no additional graphics card needs to be installed, and it's enough for basic display.
CarbyAu
Yeah, 'tis true. But I love gaming and I lament the waste of silicon on every Intel CPU that could've given me more CPU grunt.
fwipsy
Yeah, and before then, there were equally shitty dedicated graphics cards.
Its not to lower prices. They have to otherwise you wouldnt be able to see anything on your display. Maybe the bios at most.
Intel doesn't have to do it. Dedicated GPUs perform the same function better, but why include it if the chip set is enough for an office PC.
KingORedLions
...because other companies already provided onboard GPUs (Intel processors with Nvidia sets). Intel wanted that slice of the pie.
ender00000
Intel has had by far the largest share of graphics market long before they started including it on CPU. It's sufficient for office PCs.
I meant if you dont have a dedicated chip you need one in the CPU.
ChloeRed
Nope. Intel used to put it in the chipset, the on CPU gpu is relatively new in the history of cpus/etc
BeRad117
That's because it's an Integrated GPU, comparable to AMD's APU graphics. I look at them as the bar for consumer standard rather than gaming.
Prideofmebu
Intel is on Hiatus?
madmanmoe64
Given that intel graphics are squeezed onto the same small die as the CPU I'm always amazed at how good they are.
Dragondraikk
Hahaha, you're assuming intel graphics actually work without crashing
tablecat
It's not like you're meant to run heavy games on iGPUs...
Sensino
Nvidia fu**s with the market & patents, that's why it's so hard for Intel, Intel is kind of the "good guys"
Intel isnt as interested in Graphics as Nvidia. Its not their market. Poor AMD though.
Ah! it was probably AMD i was thinking about.
cracktoberfest
Has Intel really ever been in the game?
DragonSphere
they optimize APU concept which AMD have. Basically, and integrated gpu that shares resources with the CPU.
Zoltar666
Apparently they work on dedicated GPU range.
randayor
I lost the game.
AtillatheGun
No, but EA sports has.
IhatePhilCollins
Savage
NineByNine
They're even less in the game now that it's been revealed their fucking processors for the last decade + have a fucking security hole in em.
DavidCisme
One of the best cards I ever owned was an Intel740 back in GLQuake days.
Paradigmthefallen
They -almost- were. They even had an exclusive Skyrim-like (but with MP and better physics) game for their hardware. Neither ever released.
PyllyNalleMissionaries
Their main capabilities are in CPUs. Have yet to see Nvidia manufacture a CPU
ImakeEverythingAwkward
They make mobile chips
ProxyPlayerHD
Intel is good with CPUs, Nvidia is good with GPUs, and they basically work together agaist AMD, who is decent in both
those are the only "2" Companies we have for the major PC parts....
keebs63
Kek
thomaseron
I'd say that Ryzen is more than decent.
aqqe
Only EA Sports has..
Vostronicle
Bahahaha
ilikecamels
it used to be in the game, now it's not unless you pay extra
Istealfromthefrontpage
EA sports were in your wallet.
obamalamadingdongditch
I could be wrong/having a fever dream, but wasn’t there a rumor that they were considering getting into discrete GPUs?
ScrabtabularScruff
Yeah, a few years ago. Never really panned out, can't remember why
They're going at it again soon. Starting with Data center type stuff then hopefully bringing it into the gaming market
1/2 This past November it was announced that Raja Koduri (of AMD and formerly Apple) was going to Intel as SVP of Core and Visual Computing
2/2 to work on both into the low-end, integrated graphics .... and high-end, discrete GPUs.
izoli413365
If they ever did, it would more than likely be designed for work computers rather than gaming.
kalallbea
They have the largest slice of the gpu market since there are far more computers not being used for gaming.
prodmerc
That's funny, since a fuckton of their CPUs ship with integrated GPUs, of course they'll have the largest slice. Few are actually using them
That's like saying very few people don't modify their cars for racing
RedIronCrown
Most use them. Gamers are a tiny niche compared to corporate, school, laptop and low tier consumer PC's.
Intel built in GPUs (they are part of the intel CPUs) really suck
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MooVaca
No shit that’s what he was acknowledging
JackieChamp
They're good at what they do, which is provide graphics processing for non-intensive computing. They're not for 3D gaming.
I know i know but complaining is fun
R3volve
They aren't made for gaming. They are made for efficiency. You get to do some GPU tasks without obliterating your battery.
squishybaker
dude, since sandy bridge and HD3000, intel's iGPUs have been pretty great and then there's iris graphics which is freaking amazing.
Electrogourd
i had to wait a mo th for my GPU (built my rig the day 10th gen nvidia came out) and integrated was still console-level
ilavalamp
Often the drivers are shit as well - further handicapping chips that don't need any help being in the basement of benchmark lists...
Fuck off, they're perfectly fine for what they're made for. Hell, I've even done a fair share of gaming on them.
theslowestsloth
Part of Intel's CPU? I thought they are part of motherboard on North bridge. CPU die is a separate unit which is fixed on motherboard
Those are dedicated chips. Nowadays a part of the CPU handles graphics unless stated otherwise
Thanks dude
msa011
No. Since some time ago Intel CPU's have the IGP inside them, except for the K models.
Ah. Thank you
BlakeSwan
That's not really a GPU though
More like IGPs but you get the point.
GreenFox
How is it not a "Graphics Processing Unit"? These are dedicated circuits for graphics.
goawayprofile
They are fine for everything except running a game lol. If you wanna watch YouTube shit, people underestimate the CPU.
gakio12
You need a GPU for almost everything graphical, that's why they are found in almost every device now (from computers to coffee makers).
cbale2000
You'd actually be surprised how much a dedicated GPU will improve General use performance, it frees up RAM and processing power
johnvictor
Even a cheap $20 card would make a performance difference.
Well, to an extent, some of the really REALLY cheap cards (usually previous gen) actually perform worse than integrated graphics.
TheDaleGribbleBlueGrassExperience
Mine can handle overwatch
SnakeRunner
I've had pretty good luck with my laptops i3 7th gen.
You can watch youtube on an expensive calculator
XanCrews
Psh... In a monochrome 128x64. I'll stick with my phone that's literally millions of times better at 5.3850 x the cost.
AgentHitler
Calm down there lad
KindaClueless
You mean 5.3850 times better at millions of times the cost?
mayumichi
Not in hd. Youtube needed a high end cpu to play hd videos a while back, before the igpus got better.
PleaseStopApplyingTheWordPornToEverythingAndAlsoStopReposting
♻
Thank you
BrownWoim
When in the flying fuck is One Man Punch season 2 coming out? I demand answers?!!
Radix865
Summer this year probably, the production started in late spring last year. And I think the production usually takes about a year.
Dualpsiioniic
This year, not sure when. Different studio but not necessarily a major drop in quality from the first season.
just1inafew1000
I didn’t even know intel made graphics cards , either way I’m always gonna use nvidia
BastardOperatorFromHell
We're gonna need a source on that.
PhailRaptor
An integrated chip set sharing between audio, visual, and everything else does not a graphics card make
The audio chipset isn't into the CPU die
It dosent do audio. Just visuals. Audio is by the sound card.
Eh not "graphics cards" more like built in graphics (part of the CPU is dedicated to graphics). Thats how laptops do it.
Oh ok well my laptop has an nvidia gpu in it so I was think that intel made a separate card for graphics
Yeah your Nvidia deals with games. The intel HD deals with movies and other visuals like the image. I used to have one with an nvidia too.
gastroph
Fun fact: I have to disable the Intel display adapter for Doom's Vulkan engine to use my Nvidia GPU on my MSI laptop.
So sad. Get a radeon laptop then you don't have to do it
NotHAL
They plan to make them. Read the news - they got some AMD designer guy, i think. Let's hope they won't make Larrabe 2.0. That would be awful
PotatoFaminePart2
lol why no ones going to buy it
Dogebert
Ur gonna have to pixilate that top picture of u’re gonna compare their graphics cards to nvidia.
Talmorean
AMD/Radeon fan myself. Never had had many issues with em.
UnsolicitedRichardPicture
Used to be a Radeon guy since it was ATI. The poor drivers before and after their AMD acquisition turned me away from them.
SquirtleSquad420
I never had issues with them up until 2013ish. Got 2 bum cards in a row, sw8tched to nvidia and never looked back.
Amd doesnt build their cards unless it is AMD branded, there is always a percent of AIB which have higher failure rate for certain batches
whenanaloglovebecamedigital
always preferred intel. my new build is using a ryzen 7 1700k though. can't simply argue with the current ryzen line up. it's so good.
i meant 1700x ofc... lol still biased towards nVidea though. radeon uses too much power under load for me...
sittinonthesofa
Thanks for keeping my cpu cooled
SpicyButtLint
My Ryzen 7 rocks
Gingiraffe
kmhr
My Ryzen 1600X is a beast
Hybris51129
I used to be a Radeon user until they stop competing after the 7900 series cards. Now I use a 1080 Ti and deal with endless driver issues.
290*
I've been perfectly happy with my 290X ... except when I want to play CEMU games. Fuck AMD and their shitty OpenGL Windows drivers.
MedeirosM11
It's a good day to be an AMD fan boy after intel screwed up on their CPUs
Hatecuzaint
Just built a new rig, wanted to stay AMD but the 11gb vram on the 1080ti won me over.
Elroydb
So excited when the Ryzen and Threadripper stuff hit the market. Made everybody step up their game
RayGiIIette
Which one do you recommend?
Matrox.
Depends on what you play and the resolution and the budget you have
Brocid3n
I like amd. I don't have to worry about having the heater on during winter.
So is kepler then?
SirSkellingtonBonerLord
which is funny when you consider how cool the ryzen processors are with their low TDP, you can even overclock on the stock coolers
mhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnmmmmmmm
Yeah, fx line had major heat problems though.
tell me about it, a simple tower cooler could easily put them under control and overclock, but stock coolers from AMD back then were horrid
Draxedz
Well their stock coolers are really good compared to Intels and even so most ryzen CPUs are that highly overclockable unfortunately.
Intel just uses extremely shitty TIM on their CPUs to save a penny, AMD spends a penny and solders the lid to the die
fgihighkkmnygb
Intel stock cooler throttles in stock settings while browsing.... I had to use it when aio died for a week.
Aren't*
Which is why intel is moving towards on die amd.
Moreso that AMDs Vega architecture is extremely power efficiency at lower clocks, however to get it up the level of their Vega 56 cards 1/2
It takes a hell of a lot of power to achieve those clocks
Nvidia is sometimes optimized better by game devs. But whether it's because of money going around or just them being lazy, I dunno.
Path of Exile for example runs smoothly with a low end Nvidia card but even a high end AMD tends to get a little twitching at times.
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
That is the point a lot of people forget especially AMD fanboys. Yeah their products aren't complete trash anymore but their specs means
nothing if games aren't being optimized for them. So now you got worse specs and no optimization it just puts you so far behind.
SATANSTOPSCREAMING
this is yes
WhiteIce2112
And what about that dara leak I'm hearing about
Nikolai5
It has. It's working with AMD.
Nikolai5
But they don't intend to compete with AMD and Nvidia main series graphics cards.
TheRoyalDong
That ass upgrade
IThinkToastersAreSexy
FBI, OPEN UP
Svedish
Tatsumaki <3
InnerUniverse
When you've been playing on Intel graphics for years, stepping into Nvidia territory is like entering another dimension.
cylogenix
Intel needs to step up more than just its graphics game...
Vulspyr
She's 28.
Teddopolis
They make basic graphic calculations in the processor so you can at least have a visual computer instead of command line.
SpacemanSpiff1000
I always upvote one punch man
TheFunkyCodingMonkey
Intel hired the AMD graphics head. Interesting stuff coming.
PontiacGTX
Probably to compete against Nvidia on HPC market and maybe ln few years have plan to improve their dGpu
RobinYiff
Relevant:
Anon4000
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/022/961/tumblr_nyyd195sik1sw97sno1_500.jpg
TooStronkkk
Still. Good guy intel. The first pc game tat i played was Project IGI on a fuckin intel machine. Fuck u intel haters
Beelsebooob
Intel just started shipping AMD's Vega as on-board graphics on higher end chips.
Thebrassbell
Reminded me to check if Nvidia Had any updates...
Sephitian
Who is this sassy child?
FatalMerlin
Reading all the comments I come to realise that you misunderstood their intention. They include a graphics chip in their processed and are..
FatalMerlin
.. therefore lowering the price of e.g. laptops arrive no additional graphics card needs to be installed, and it's enough for basic display.
CarbyAu
Yeah, 'tis true. But I love gaming and I lament the waste of silicon on every Intel CPU that could've given me more CPU grunt.
fwipsy
Yeah, and before then, there were equally shitty dedicated graphics cards.
earthchanisacutie
Its not to lower prices. They have to otherwise you wouldnt be able to see anything on your display. Maybe the bios at most.
FatalMerlin
Intel doesn't have to do it. Dedicated GPUs perform the same function better, but why include it if the chip set is enough for an office PC.
KingORedLions
...because other companies already provided onboard GPUs (Intel processors with Nvidia sets). Intel wanted that slice of the pie.
ender00000
Intel has had by far the largest share of graphics market long before they started including it on CPU. It's sufficient for office PCs.
earthchanisacutie
I meant if you dont have a dedicated chip you need one in the CPU.
ChloeRed
Nope. Intel used to put it in the chipset, the on CPU gpu is relatively new in the history of cpus/etc
BeRad117
That's because it's an Integrated GPU, comparable to AMD's APU graphics. I look at them as the bar for consumer standard rather than gaming.
Prideofmebu
Intel is on Hiatus?
madmanmoe64
Given that intel graphics are squeezed onto the same small die as the CPU I'm always amazed at how good they are.
Dragondraikk
Hahaha, you're assuming intel graphics actually work without crashing
tablecat
It's not like you're meant to run heavy games on iGPUs...
Sensino
Nvidia fu**s with the market & patents, that's why it's so hard for Intel, Intel is kind of the "good guys"
earthchanisacutie
Intel isnt as interested in Graphics as Nvidia. Its not their market. Poor AMD though.
Sensino
Ah! it was probably AMD i was thinking about.
cracktoberfest
Has Intel really ever been in the game?
DragonSphere
they optimize APU concept which AMD have. Basically, and integrated gpu that shares resources with the CPU.
Zoltar666
Apparently they work on dedicated GPU range.
randayor
I lost the game.
AtillatheGun
No, but EA sports has.
IhatePhilCollins
Savage
NineByNine
They're even less in the game now that it's been revealed their fucking processors for the last decade + have a fucking security hole in em.
DavidCisme
One of the best cards I ever owned was an Intel740 back in GLQuake days.
Paradigmthefallen
They -almost- were. They even had an exclusive Skyrim-like (but with MP and better physics) game for their hardware. Neither ever released.
PyllyNalleMissionaries
Their main capabilities are in CPUs. Have yet to see Nvidia manufacture a CPU
ImakeEverythingAwkward
They make mobile chips
ProxyPlayerHD
Intel is good with CPUs, Nvidia is good with GPUs, and they basically work together agaist AMD, who is decent in both
ProxyPlayerHD
those are the only "2" Companies we have for the major PC parts....
keebs63
Kek
thomaseron
I'd say that Ryzen is more than decent.
aqqe
Only EA Sports has..
Vostronicle
Bahahaha
ilikecamels
it used to be in the game, now it's not unless you pay extra
Istealfromthefrontpage
EA sports were in your wallet.
obamalamadingdongditch
I could be wrong/having a fever dream, but wasn’t there a rumor that they were considering getting into discrete GPUs?
ScrabtabularScruff
Yeah, a few years ago. Never really panned out, can't remember why
keebs63
They're going at it again soon. Starting with Data center type stuff then hopefully bringing it into the gaming market
cracktoberfest
1/2 This past November it was announced that Raja Koduri (of AMD and formerly Apple) was going to Intel as SVP of Core and Visual Computing
cracktoberfest
2/2 to work on both into the low-end, integrated graphics .... and high-end, discrete GPUs.
izoli413365
If they ever did, it would more than likely be designed for work computers rather than gaming.
kalallbea
They have the largest slice of the gpu market since there are far more computers not being used for gaming.
prodmerc
That's funny, since a fuckton of their CPUs ship with integrated GPUs, of course they'll have the largest slice. Few are actually using them
kalallbea
That's like saying very few people don't modify their cars for racing
RedIronCrown
Most use them. Gamers are a tiny niche compared to corporate, school, laptop and low tier consumer PC's.
earthchanisacutie
Intel built in GPUs (they are part of the intel CPUs) really suck
[deleted]
[deleted]
MooVaca
No shit that’s what he was acknowledging
JackieChamp
They're good at what they do, which is provide graphics processing for non-intensive computing. They're not for 3D gaming.
earthchanisacutie
I know i know but complaining is fun
R3volve
They aren't made for gaming. They are made for efficiency. You get to do some GPU tasks without obliterating your battery.
squishybaker
dude, since sandy bridge and HD3000, intel's iGPUs have been pretty great and then there's iris graphics which is freaking amazing.
Electrogourd
i had to wait a mo th for my GPU (built my rig the day 10th gen nvidia came out) and integrated was still console-level
ilavalamp
Often the drivers are shit as well - further handicapping chips that don't need any help being in the basement of benchmark lists...
tablecat
Fuck off, they're perfectly fine for what they're made for. Hell, I've even done a fair share of gaming on them.
theslowestsloth
Part of Intel's CPU? I thought they are part of motherboard on North bridge. CPU die is a separate unit which is fixed on motherboard
earthchanisacutie
Those are dedicated chips. Nowadays a part of the CPU handles graphics unless stated otherwise
theslowestsloth
Thanks dude
msa011
No. Since some time ago Intel CPU's have the IGP inside them, except for the K models.
theslowestsloth
Ah. Thank you
BlakeSwan
That's not really a GPU though
earthchanisacutie
More like IGPs but you get the point.
GreenFox
How is it not a "Graphics Processing Unit"? These are dedicated circuits for graphics.
goawayprofile
They are fine for everything except running a game lol. If you wanna watch YouTube shit, people underestimate the CPU.
gakio12
You need a GPU for almost everything graphical, that's why they are found in almost every device now (from computers to coffee makers).
cbale2000
You'd actually be surprised how much a dedicated GPU will improve General use performance, it frees up RAM and processing power
johnvictor
Even a cheap $20 card would make a performance difference.
cbale2000
Well, to an extent, some of the really REALLY cheap cards (usually previous gen) actually perform worse than integrated graphics.
TheDaleGribbleBlueGrassExperience
Mine can handle overwatch
SnakeRunner
I've had pretty good luck with my laptops i3 7th gen.
earthchanisacutie
You can watch youtube on an expensive calculator
XanCrews
Psh... In a monochrome 128x64. I'll stick with my phone that's literally millions of times better at 5.3850 x the cost.
AgentHitler
Calm down there lad
KindaClueless
You mean 5.3850 times better at millions of times the cost?
mayumichi
Not in hd. Youtube needed a high end cpu to play hd videos a while back, before the igpus got better.
PleaseStopApplyingTheWordPornToEverythingAndAlsoStopReposting
♻
earthchanisacutie
Thank you
BrownWoim
When in the flying fuck is One Man Punch season 2 coming out? I demand answers?!!
Radix865
Summer this year probably, the production started in late spring last year. And I think the production usually takes about a year.
Dualpsiioniic
This year, not sure when. Different studio but not necessarily a major drop in quality from the first season.
just1inafew1000
I didn’t even know intel made graphics cards , either way I’m always gonna use nvidia
[deleted]
[deleted]
BastardOperatorFromHell
We're gonna need a source on that.
PhailRaptor
An integrated chip set sharing between audio, visual, and everything else does not a graphics card make
PontiacGTX
The audio chipset isn't into the CPU die
earthchanisacutie
It dosent do audio. Just visuals. Audio is by the sound card.
earthchanisacutie
Eh not "graphics cards" more like built in graphics (part of the CPU is dedicated to graphics). Thats how laptops do it.
just1inafew1000
Oh ok well my laptop has an nvidia gpu in it so I was think that intel made a separate card for graphics
earthchanisacutie
Yeah your Nvidia deals with games. The intel HD deals with movies and other visuals like the image. I used to have one with an nvidia too.
gastroph
Fun fact: I have to disable the Intel display adapter for Doom's Vulkan engine to use my Nvidia GPU on my MSI laptop.
theslowestsloth
So sad. Get a radeon laptop then you don't have to do it
NotHAL
They plan to make them. Read the news - they got some AMD designer guy, i think. Let's hope they won't make Larrabe 2.0. That would be awful
PotatoFaminePart2
lol why no ones going to buy it
Dogebert
Ur gonna have to pixilate that top picture of u’re gonna compare their graphics cards to nvidia.
Talmorean
AMD/Radeon fan myself. Never had had many issues with em.
UnsolicitedRichardPicture
Used to be a Radeon guy since it was ATI. The poor drivers before and after their AMD acquisition turned me away from them.
SquirtleSquad420
I never had issues with them up until 2013ish. Got 2 bum cards in a row, sw8tched to nvidia and never looked back.
PontiacGTX
Amd doesnt build their cards unless it is AMD branded, there is always a percent of AIB which have higher failure rate for certain batches
whenanaloglovebecamedigital
always preferred intel. my new build is using a ryzen 7 1700k though. can't simply argue with the current ryzen line up. it's so good.
whenanaloglovebecamedigital
i meant 1700x ofc... lol still biased towards nVidea though. radeon uses too much power under load for me...
sittinonthesofa
Thanks for keeping my cpu cooled
SpicyButtLint
My Ryzen 7 rocks
Gingiraffe
kmhr
My Ryzen 1600X is a beast
Hybris51129
I used to be a Radeon user until they stop competing after the 7900 series cards. Now I use a 1080 Ti and deal with endless driver issues.
PontiacGTX
290*
tablecat
I've been perfectly happy with my 290X ... except when I want to play CEMU games. Fuck AMD and their shitty OpenGL Windows drivers.
MedeirosM11
It's a good day to be an AMD fan boy after intel screwed up on their CPUs
Hatecuzaint
Just built a new rig, wanted to stay AMD but the 11gb vram on the 1080ti won me over.
Elroydb
So excited when the Ryzen and Threadripper stuff hit the market. Made everybody step up their game
RayGiIIette
Which one do you recommend?
BastardOperatorFromHell
Matrox.
PontiacGTX
Depends on what you play and the resolution and the budget you have
Brocid3n
I like amd. I don't have to worry about having the heater on during winter.
PontiacGTX
So is kepler then?
SirSkellingtonBonerLord
which is funny when you consider how cool the ryzen processors are with their low TDP, you can even overclock on the stock coolers
mhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnnmmmmmmm
Yeah, fx line had major heat problems though.
SirSkellingtonBonerLord
tell me about it, a simple tower cooler could easily put them under control and overclock, but stock coolers from AMD back then were horrid
Draxedz
Well their stock coolers are really good compared to Intels and even so most ryzen CPUs are that highly overclockable unfortunately.
keebs63
Intel just uses extremely shitty TIM on their CPUs to save a penny, AMD spends a penny and solders the lid to the die
fgihighkkmnygb
Intel stock cooler throttles in stock settings while browsing.... I had to use it when aio died for a week.
Draxedz
Aren't*
BastardOperatorFromHell
Which is why intel is moving towards on die amd.
keebs63
Moreso that AMDs Vega architecture is extremely power efficiency at lower clocks, however to get it up the level of their Vega 56 cards 1/2
keebs63
It takes a hell of a lot of power to achieve those clocks
Radix865
Nvidia is sometimes optimized better by game devs. But whether it's because of money going around or just them being lazy, I dunno.
Radix865
Path of Exile for example runs smoothly with a low end Nvidia card but even a high end AMD tends to get a little twitching at times.
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
That is the point a lot of people forget especially AMD fanboys. Yeah their products aren't complete trash anymore but their specs means
TooLazyToDoSomethingElse
nothing if games aren't being optimized for them. So now you got worse specs and no optimization it just puts you so far behind.