Lost/Forgotten tech, inventions, knowledge and techniques.

Aug 15, 2016 4:08 PM

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Here is a list of technologies, inventions knowledge and techniques that have been lost to time.

Some have been reproduced but only with the ability of modern technology tools and knowledge

Sometimes you wonder if humanity had not lost any knowledge over history how we would have developed

http://listverse . com/2009/07/31/top-10-amazing-lost-or-suppressed-inventions/

http://www . toptenz . net/top-10-lost-technologies . php

http://toptenworld . net/people/history/top-10-most-impressive-lost-technologies/10/

http://www . viralnova . com/lost-inventions/

Greek Fire

Greek fire was an incendiary weapon used by the Byzantine Empire. The Byzantines typically used it in naval battles to great effect as it could continue burning even on water. The ingredients and the processes of manufacture and deployment of Greek fire were very carefully guarded military secrets. So strict was the secrecy that the composition of Greek fire was lost, and remains a source of speculation to this day. Consequently, the “mystery” of the formula has long dominated the research into Greek fire. Despite this almost exclusive focus however, Greek fire is best understood as a complete weapon system of many components, all of which were needed to operate together to render it effective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_fire

Anti-Gravity Device Thomas Townsend Brown

In 1956, the aviation trade publication Interavia reported that Thomas Townsend Brown had made substantial progress in anti-gravity or electro-gravitic propulsion research. Top U.S. aerospace companies had also become involved in such research which may have become a classified subject by 1957. Though the effect he discovered has been proven to exist by many others, Brown’s work was controversial because others and even he himself believed that this effect could explain the existence and operation of unidentified flying objects (UFOs). Brown’s research has since become something of a popular pursuit around the world, with amateur experimenters replicating his early experiments in the form of “lifters” powered by high-voltage.

His research led to the discovery of the Biefeld–Brown effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thomas_Townsend_Brown

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biefeld%E2%80%93Brown_effect

Sloot Digital Coding System

Romke Jan Bernhard Sloot was a famous Dutch electronics technician known for claiming that he developed a lossless data compression technique that could compress a ten-gigabyte movie down to only eight kilobytes of data without sacrificing its quality – something that current technology isn’t even near achieving. Although many doubted this technique, a lot of people were interested in investing and claimed that the coding system had potential. However, Sloot died just a day before signing a deal with Philips, and the floppy disk where his coding system was written went missing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jan_Sloot

Earthquake Machine Nikola Tesla

At one point while experimenting with mechanical oscillators, Nikola Tesla allegedly generated a resonance of several buildings causing complaints to the police. As the speed grew he hit the resonance frequency of his own building and belatedly realizing the danger he was forced to apply a sledge hammer to terminate the experiment, just as the astonished police arrived. The Discovery Channel’s popular MythBusters show examined Tesla’s claim that he had created an “Earthquake Machine” in their 60th episode. They tested the physical phenomenon known as mechanical resonance on a traffic bridge, which today are built to withstand such forces. While a single I-beam of steel was deflected several feet in each direction by their oscillator, and they reportedly felt the bridge shaking many yards away, there were no “earth shattering” effects. It is worth indicating that, in the time of the event undertaken by Tesla, buildings were not built to withstand such resonance.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tesla%27s_oscillator

Flexible Glass(between 14–37 AD)

Flexible glass is a legendary lost invention from during the reign of Roman Emperor Tiberius Caesar (between 14 CE-37 CE). As recounted by Isadore of Seville, the craftsman who invented the technique brought before Caesar a drinking bowl made of flexible glass, and Caesar threw it to the floor, whereupon the material dented, rather than shattering. The inventor was able to simply repair the dent with a small hammer. After the inventor swore to the Emperor that he alone knew the technique of manufacture, Caesar had the man beheaded, fearing such material could undermine the value of gold and silver.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexible_glass

Starlite

An amateur scientist known as Maurice Ward managed to create an indestructible heat-resistant plastic during the 1980s, after seeing a plane burst into flames. He came up with Starlite which proved to tolerate as much as 10,000 degrees Celsius, and could even survive blasts that are 75 times the strength of the Hiroshima bomb. NASA was very interested in getting a hold of this material, but Maurice refused to reveal how he made it, as he didn’t want other people to profit off of his invention. He died in 2011, and his secret died with him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlite

Stradivari Violins

The technique for building Stradivari instruments was a family secret known only by patriarch Antonio Stradivari and his sons, Omobono and Francesco. Once they died, the process died with them, but this hasn’t stopped some from trying to reproduce it. Researchers have studied everything from fungi in the wood that was used to the unique shaping of the bodies in order to describe the famous resonance achieved by the Stradivarius collection. The leading hypothesis seems to be that the density of the particular wood used accounts for the sound. Still, some dispute the claim that the instruments are special at all. In fact, at least one study concluded that most people don’t even notice a difference in sound quality between a Stradivari violin and a modern counterpart.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stradivarius

Nepenthe

The sheer sophistication of the technology wielded by the ancient Greeks and Romans is often quite astonishing, especially when it came to medicine. Among other things, the Greeks were known to treat the bereaved with Nepenthe, a primitive anti-depressant that was known for its ability to “chase away sorrow.” The drug is frequently mentioned in Greek literature like Homer’s Odyssey. Some claim that it might be fictional, but others have argued that the drug was real and used widely in ancient Greece. Nepenthe was said to have originated in Egypt, and its effects as “a drug of forgetfulness” have led many to compare it to opium or laudanum.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nepenthe

The Antikythera Mechanism

One of the most mysterious of all archeological artifacts is what is known as the Antikythera Mechanism, a bronze machine that was discovered by divers off the coast of the Greek island of Antikythera in the early 1900s. The mechanism consists of a series of over 30 gears, cranks, and dials that could be manipulated in order to chart the astronomical positions of the sun, moon, and other planets. The device was found among the remains of a shipwreck that scientists have dated to the 1st or 2nd century BC. Its true purpose is still not fully known, and the mystery behind its construction and use has puzzled researchers for years. The consensus now seems to be that the Antikythera Mechanism was a kind of primitive clock that could calculate lunar phases and solar years, which has led some to refer to it as the earliest example of an “analog computer.”

The sophistication and precision evident in the design of the mechanism suggests that it was not the only device of its kind, and many scientists have speculated that its use might have been widespread. Still, the existence of other devices like the Antikythera Mechanism doesn’t appear on the historical record until the 14th century, which would mean that the technology was lost for nearly 1400 years. Why or how will probably remain a mystery, especially since the mechanism still stands as the only ancient discovery of its kind.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antikythera_mechanism

The Telharmonium

Often recognized as the world’s first electronic musical instrument, the Telharmonium was a large organ-like device that used tonewheels to creative synthetic musical notes that were then transmitted by wires to a series of loudspeakers. The Telharmonium was developed by the inventor Thaddeus Cahill in 1897, and at the time it was one of the biggest instruments ever built. Cahill would eventually construct three versions of it, one of which was said to weigh some 200 tons and take up enough space to fill an entire room. Its set up consisted of a collection of keyboards and foot pedals, which the user could manipulate to reproduce the sounds of other instruments, particularly woodwinds like flutes, bassoons, and clarinets. The first public exhibitions of the Telharmonium were met with great success. People came in droves to hear public performances of the primitive synthesizer, which was said to produce a clear, round sound that resembled a sine wave.

Following its initial successes, Cahill developed big plans for his Telharmonium. Because of its ability to transmit a signal over telephone wires, he envisioned Telharmonium music being broadcast remotely as background sound in places like restaurants, hotels, and private homes. Unfortunately, the device proved to be too far ahead of its time. Its massive energy consumption strained early power grids, and at a price tag of a whopping $200,000, the instrument was just too pricey to build on a large scale. What’s more, early experiments in broadcasting its music over the telephone proved disastrous, as its sound would often bleed over into private phone conversations. After a while, the public’s fascination with the device waned, and the different versions of it were eventually scrapped. Today, nothing remains of the original three Telharmoniums—not even sound recordings.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Telharmonium

The Library of Alexandria

The legendary Library of Alexandria warrants a place on this list, if only because its destruction meant that so much of the collected knowledge of antiquity was forever lost. The library was founded in Alexandria, Egypt in roughly 300 B.C., most likely during the reign of Ptolemy Soter. It marked the first serious attempt to gather all the known information about the outside world in one place. The size of its collection is not known (though the number has been estimated to be in the neighborhood of one million scrolls), but the library undoubtedly attracted some of the great minds of its day, among them Zenodotus and Aristophones of Byzantium, both of whom spent considerable time doing scholarly work in Alexandria. The library became so important that there is even a legend that all visitors to the city would have to surrender their books upon entering so that a copy could be made for storage in the great library.

The Library of Alexandria and all its contents burned sometime around the first or second century AD. Scholars are still uncertain just how the fire was started, but there are a few competing theories. The first, which is backed up by historical documents, suggests that Julius Caesar accidentally burned the library when he set fire to some of his own ships in order to block the path of an advancing enemy fleet. The fire spread to the docks and then enveloped the library. Other theories contend that the library was sacked and burned by invaders, with the Emperor Aurelian, Theodosius I, and the Arab conqueror Amr ibn al ‘Aas serving as the main contenders. However the Library of Alexandria was destroyed, there’s little doubt that many of the secrets of antiquity were lost along with it. We’ll never know for sure just what was lost, but had it remained standing, there’s an argument to be made that many of the technologies on the list would have never been lost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria

Archimedes Death Ray

Ancient Greek and Roman historians recorded that during the siege of Syracuse in 212 BC, Archimedes constructed a burning glass to set the Roman warships, anchored within bow and arrow range, afire.

The story has been much debated and a number of attempts to recreate it have been made over the ages. While some attempts have apparently been successful, the death ray is oft dismissed as myth.

http://web.mit.edu/2.009/www/experiments/deathray/10_ArchimedesResult.html

Teleforce (aka death Ray)

The most famous of Tesla's so-called lost inventions was his "death ray." In the 1930s, Tesla claimed that he had invented a machine that was capable of firing focused power beams that could destroy anything within 200 miles. He also claimed that his device could create a "power wall" to defend against any incoming objects. Though the machine was never created, that didn't stop Tesla's rivals from trying to steal the design. The final configuration of the death ray has been lost to history (and that's probably a good thing).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teleforce

Damascus Steel

Damascus steel was an impossibly strong type of metal that was widely used in the Middle East from 1100-1700 AD. It is most famously associated with swords and knives. Blades forged with Damascus steel were known for their amazing strength and cutting ability, and were said to be able to slice rocks and other metals—including the blades of weaker swords—cleanly in half. The blades are believed to have been created using wootz steel, which was most likely imported from India and Sri Lanka and molded and blended to create a patterned blade. The special quality of the swords is thought to have derived from this process, which weaved together tough cementite and soft iron to form a metal that was as strong as it was flexible.

The particular process for forging Damascus steel appears to have disappeared sometime around 1750 AD. The exact cause for the loss of the technique is unknown, but there are several theories. The most popular is that the supply of ores needed for the special recipe for Damascus steel started running low, and sword makers were forced to develop other techniques. Another is that the whole recipe for Damascus steel—specifically the presence of carbon nanotubes—was only discovered by accident, and that sword smiths didn’t actually know the technique by heart. Instead, they would simply forge the swords en masse, and test them to determine which met the standards of Damascus steel. Whatever the technique, Damascus steel is one technology that modern experimenters have been unable to fully reproduce. There are pattern welded knives that are marketed as being made from “Damascened steel”, but while usually well made, they are only approximations of the lost technique for real Damascus steel.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Damascus_steel

Viking Sword Ulfbehrt

When archaeologists found the Viking sword Ulfbert, dating from 800 to 1000 A.D., they were stunned. They couldn’t see how the technology to make such a sword would have been available until the Industrial Revolution 800 years later. Its carbon content is three times higher than other swords of its time and impurities were removed to such a degree that the iron ore must have been heated to at least 3,000 degrees Fahrenheit.

With great effort and precision, modern blacksmith Richard Furrer of Wisconsin forged a sword of Ulfberht quality using technology that would have been available in the Middle Ages. He said it was the most complicated thing he’d ever made, and he used methods not known to have been used by people of that time.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulfberht_swords

Apollo/Gemini Space Program Technology

Not all lost technology dates back to antiquity—sometimes it’s just become so obsolete that it’s no longer compatible. The Apollo and Gemini space programs of the 50s, 60s, and 70s were responsible for NASA’s biggest successes, including some of the first manned space flights and the first trip to the moon. Gemini, which ran from 1965-66, was responsible for the much of the early research and development into the mechanics of human space flight. Apollo, which followed shortly thereafter, was launched with the goal of landing a crew on the surface of the moon, which it succeeded in doing in July of 1969.

The Apollo and Gemini programs aren’t truly lost. There are still one or two Saturn V rockets lying around, and there are plenty of parts from the spacecraft capsules still available. But just because modern scientists have the parts doesn’t mean they have the knowledge to understand how or why they worked the way they did. In fact, very few schematics or records from the original programs are still around. This lack of record keeping is a byproduct of the frenetic pace at which the American space program progressed. Because NASA was in a space race with the USSR, the planning, design, and building process of the Apollo and Gemini programs was always rushed. Not only that, but in most cases private contractors were brought in to work on every individual part of the spacecraft. Once the programs ended, these engineers—along with all their records—moved on. None of this would be a problem, but now that NASA is planning a return trip to the moon, a lot of the information about how the engineers of the 1960s made the voyages work is invaluable. Amazingly, the records remain so disorganized and incomplete that NASA has resorted to reverse engineering existing spacecraft parts that they have lying around in junkyards as a way of understanding just how the Gemini and Apollo programs managed to work so well.

Wardenclyffe Tower and Free Electricity System

Around the turn of the century, Tesla received funding from J.P. Morgan to build a giant transmitting tower on Long Island. Morgan's idea was that the tower would be used to send wireless messages around the world. However, Tesla planned to use the tower to wirelessly transmit free electricity all over the globe. Once Morgan learned of Tesla's plans, he shut the project down. Free electricity would've seriously hurt his profit margins.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wardenclyffe_Tower

Silphium

A herbal wonder drug that the Romans used as one of the earliest forms of birth control. It was based on the fruit of a particular genus of the fennel plant, a flowering herb that only grew along a certain shoreline in modern day Libya. The heart-shaped fruit of the Silphium plant was known to be something of a cure-all, and was used to treat warts, fever, indigestion and a whole host of other ailments. But it was Silphium’s powers as a contraceptive that made it one of the most valuable substances in the Roman world, to the point that the plant appears on several different pieces of ancient Roman currency. Women would drink Silphium juice every few weeks, and this would be enough to prevent pregnancy. Using the herb would even terminate an existing pregnancy if used correctly, which would make Silphium one of the earliest methods of abortion.

Silphium was one of the most sought after drugs of the ancient world, and its use spread rapidly across Europe and into Asia. But despite its remarkable effects, the particular genus of plant needed would only grow in one area along the Mediterranean in North Africa. Its scarcity, combined with an overwhelming demand, more than likely led to over harvesting, which drove the plant into extinction. Because the particular species no longer exists, modern scientists are unable to examine Silphium to see if its powers of contraception were really as effective as Roman historians and poets would lead one to believe, or if there were any adverse side effects. Still, it is worth noting that other herbs that are chemically similar to Silphium have been proven to have a fairly high rate of preventing pregnancy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silphium

Roman Concrete

Modern concrete was developed in the 1700s, and today the simple mixture of cement, water, sand, and rocks is the most widely used building material in the world. But the recipe developed in the 18th century wasn’t the first time concrete was invented. In fact, concrete was widely used throughout antiquity by the Persians, Egyptians, Assyrians, and Romans. The Romans in particular made extensive use of concrete, and they were responsible for first perfecting the recipe by mixing burnt lime with crushed rocks and water. Their mastery of its use allowed them to build many of their most famous structures, among them the Pantheon, the Colosseum, the aqueducts, and the Roman Baths.

Like so many technologies of the Greeks and Romans, the recipe for concrete was lost during the descent into the Dark Ages, but just why remains a mystery. The most popular theory is that the recipe was something of a trade secret among stonemasons, and that the method for making cement and concrete died along with those who knew it. Perhaps even more interesting than the disappearance of Roman cement are the particular qualities that separate it from more modern Portland cement, which is the most common type of cement used today. Structures built with Roman cement, like the Colosseum, have managed to weather thousands of years of punishment from the elements and remain standing, but buildings constructed with Portland cement have been known to wear down much faster. This has been theorized to be the result of different chemicals that the Romans added to their cement, among them milk and even blood. These were said to create air bubbles within the concrete that helped the material to expand and contract in the heat and cold without damaging itself.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_concrete

Mithridate

This is an extremely old remedy that consisted of 65 ingredients, which was used as an antidote for poisoning. It was invented during the 1st century BC, and is known for being able to cure a person from any poison. In fact, the inventor of this remedy actually tried killing himself by consuming a variety of different poisons, but they didn’t have an effect on him. So that he would die, he actually ordered some soldiers to kill him with a sword. After his death, a number of people started translating the recipe; but with every translation, certain alterations were made. Nowadays, the recipe for Mithridate is completely lost.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mithridate

"Flexible Glass"... you mean plastic?

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I imagine flexible glass is what they would have called it before plastics became a thing.

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What about that magic preserving liquid stuff from Chinese tombs? Help me out, history bros.

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... Mercury?

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No, they had rivers of mercury, but there's some mystery preservative they used to mummify corpses that scientists can't identify.

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More of these you Sloot

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Greek fire has been used in the battle of blackwater

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Wootz "damascus" steel isnt lost. Many modern smiths are successfully recreating it. Also, im relevant!

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It had been lost for a dang long time. But yeah, we rediscovered it in the end.

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Also you forgot the automobile blinker, a driving technique lost in space and time

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Paused mid post to order mock Damascus switchblade from amazon

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but we do know what The Antikythera Mechanism does. it was an orrey and a calendar of sorts.

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The X-ray of it as the gallery thumbnail was what made me read this post. The mystery is less in its usage than its construction, I think.

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"Motel of the Mysteries" has taught me that when folks think they've figured out something from the past, they're likely quite wrong.

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Damascus steel is not a type of metal, it is a way of folding the metal during the forging process to create layers and give the blade 0/1

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Strength, it is still practised today by competant blacksmiths (see awe me on youtube). 1/1

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Yes, the guy who knew how to compress 10 GB into 8 KB died a day before signing the contract, how convenient.

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Silphium being seen as a cure-all should be taken in the context of pretty much everything being a cure-all to the Romans. Its extinction /1

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is probably more likely due to the facts that a) the Romans didn't manage to domesticate it, and b) it was supposedly incredibly tasty. /2

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I don't care if one cannot hear the difference between a stradivarius and a common violin - the difference comes in playing it, I imagine.

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Violinist here, not really, no, that would be the bow, and modern carbon fiber > plain wood. Strads are well made but otherwise not special.

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Also violinist, and I've played two different strads, they're so well made that even the smallest amount of pressure from either hand 1/

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Gotta love seeing that insurance value plummet. XD

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Strads and Guarneri del Gesus and the like really are exceptional instruments, and worth their hype

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will affect the sound and potentially flatten it...not in pitch but in timbre

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I prefer something I can get good sound out of even on an off day, really.

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Oh gosh yeah, I couldn't imagine playing one of those regularly! I love my Italian violin :)

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I haven't upgraded since high school, but towards the end of that career my parents let me get a carbon fiber Coda bow, wouldn't trade it

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I don't really care how much of this is true, I find it highly entertaining. Thanks op

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I agree. I love entertaining info, regardless of it's truthiness!

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Yay. Click bait crap

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10GB into 8KB lossless is bs. Huffman achieves max 8:1 by trimming binary zeros. Deflate is huffman + sliding window which finds patterns

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It's just a number, right? What would the shortest algorithm be to equal any particular number?

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10GB to 8KB is a 1310720:1 ratio. Impossible

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Could work, for a video containing only a bunch of black frames and no audio.

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I know nothing about coding, and it still sounds like BS to me.

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10GB to 1 bit: If it's this exact movie, write 1, else write 0 followed by mp4.

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It's not compression, it's a map and key system. It would require a very large map on each end device, probably on a hard drive. 1/?

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It's easy to show as a demo, terribly difficult to use efficiently/effectively for dynamic/new content. Even with a 4TB map it would be hard

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You can send an arbitrarily large file using a single bit, if the person at the other end already has an identical file. ;)

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Correct, the difference here is that the mapkey is different each time - but even if it was 800Mb for 10GB that'd still be pretty good.

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A lot of this was lost to history for being not real. As in lore, myth, scientifically inaccurate not real.

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And history became legend, legend became myth and for 2000 years all knowledge of the ring was forgotten.

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Thus spoke Gordan7831.

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*"- two and a half thousand years, the ring passed out of all knowledge" I'm sorry I couldn't resist

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*until even myth is long forgotten by the time the age that gave it birth comes again

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thats what they said about troy

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TROY, TROY, THE WONDER BOY

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Troy McClure? you might remember him from such films as...

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Which one

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Worf's girlfriend

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the troy from Iliad.

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There's at least 5 cities on that site. Pick one.

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Except Troy wasn't the problem. The battle of Troy was. Go back to before Illiums discovery and the site was already believed to be Troy.

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No, they thought that the city of Troy was completely fictional until they dug it up.

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There is no evidence to confirm that the city they found was Troy. It takes more than a city in the right place at the right time.

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Not really. Hence why I said check the history prior to the discovery. Schieleman dug in an area that was already commonly held to Troy.

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Lovely weasels. Was going to sell the tech but he died moments before. Sure, ok. And once he died no one could find his miracle notes!

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Some of these are just myths which have been proven to be so. Like the plastic; dude was a snake-oil-salesman who wanted money.

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Yeah, why would Tiberius care about the price of gold and silver dropping if he had something a lot more valuable? You'd think he'd sell it.

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Or the moon landing one

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If he just wanted money then why sell it?

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I agree. The damascus steel one totally misses the mark.

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That poisons guy was just suicidal and doing the biggest scam ever. Either that or the guards were in with it and free one fake death later.

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If the starlite was real then that guys was a huge douche for not releasing that to the world

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The biggest douche of all is J.P. Morgan. Free, wireless fucking electricity. Asshole.

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I'm not doubting, but do have a reliable source on that? Can't find any good ones on Google.

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Because he never shared his secret or distributed the plastic, there is no scientific evidence that it ever existed, mooting the truth.

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Pretty sure I read a paper about Starlite staying it was shown to numerous people and proven to have worked. Idk

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It's behind a paywall though. I had the print magazine at the time

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Yeah, I get that. I thought maybe he proven to be a fraud. Obviously he didn't/couldn't back his claims up properly.

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It's a Moo point.

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Username checks out.

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It's like a cows opinion -it doesn't matter. Moo.

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You're putting OP up on a pedal stool.

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I don't think our death ray is work. I'm standing right in it, and I'm not dead yet." v

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is work

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This is the Archimedes death ray btw

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Didn't see the actual video but isn't sunshine quite an important factor?

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it's a cheap trick used by filmmakers to do night sequences. look up the day for night effect.

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That shot may have had the brightness adjusted to see his face clearly, thus darkening the sky. I can't remember, though.

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*videoS. They revisited it many times, with many numbers and arrangements of mirrors and light and it failed every time

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Technically a solar thermal powerplant would be an archimedes death ray.

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the sun is shining. the camera's aperture is closed down so they can expose properly for his face, making everything else dark.

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Technically the death ray could have worked if they had a proper mirror, but multiple mirrors won't do shit

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That was the myth though. Multiple people holding polished bronze mirrors.

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Oh well, was still a good episode

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Or, at least, the version they used for the episode (if there are multiple versions)

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I get the feeling a lens may have been used. Like have a bunch of mirrors feed light into a lens to focus it down to a very small area.

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I dont know if they had the technology to make a lens in that point in time, although that would be pretty cool

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well, we are talking about one of the mathematical geniuses of the time making a death ray weapon. pretty sure they had at least some glass.

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True

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For the strats, it turns out it doesn't have a unique/better sound. From behind a panel, experts can't tell. It's all in the mind.

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Strads* and I would disagree, most violinists with a really good ear can tell the difference

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

Especially if you've played a Stradivarius, or a Guarneri or any of those exquisite old instruments, they're just in another world of sound

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

free energy isnt free when the electricity has to come from somewhere. that, combined with woeful inefficiency, is why it never took off.

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You forgot the mention the iPhone 4

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

You say the Library was destroyed in 1st or 2nd century AD..likely by Caesar - who died more than a century before that? o.O

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Besides, we didn't really lose too much from the library burning up...

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Also how could Amr ibn al Aas have been responsible if he ruled somewhere around the sixth century AD. Dates don't match up again...

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Belief now that Library never existed and just a myth about other libraries being destroyed.

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It was actually destroyed a few times https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_the_Library_of_Alexandria

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There were a bunch of Caesars, but it was destroyed more than once, anyway.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

'Caesar' was a title, not a name. Like 'King' or 'President' (a mix of both, actually). There were a lot of Caesars.

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More correctly future leaders were so annoyed that Julius Caesar had been murdered by his own guards that they took on Caesar to honour him.

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OP could just be bad at timing. But it is known that the Caesar had something to do with the Library going up in smoke.

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Most of these are complete fabrications

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Or as we in the business likes to call it: Total fucking bullshit.

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The Library of Alexandria burned at least three times. Twice intentionally sacked. And modern steels are objectively better than Damascus.

10 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

The lost of the Library of Alexandria should remind everyone to BACKUP YOUR DATA.

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

you'd be well-served by assuming this post is all bullshit because the stuff that isn't bullshit is exaggerated beyond reason.

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Agreed

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The Starlite stuff is pretty interesting. He was so paranoid of losing the formula that the method to make it went with him to the grave.

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The Antikythera mechanism is 100% legit without any need to stretch the truth.

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A lot of these are fake. Diamond melts at 3550C and the highest melting point substance (cant be tested) is 7460C. Data cannot really be co-

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Like half these are b.s. The other were like, yeah, I knew that before.

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Basically all bullshit, or misunderstood. So par for the course for imgur.

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Damascus Steel is Vanadium Steel.

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You can totally compress data in transit. "5th Harry Potter book" is a valid compression for a whole book if you already have the library.

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for the downvoters, you might want to read up on dictionary compression

10 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 7

Well, you couldn't read the fifth Harry Potter book with just that string, with any given general algorithm

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Yes you can if you have a lookup table / dictionary

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But that's not true compression. The data is still stored somewhere just not in that one file. That's just indexing.

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Still categorized as a type of compression algorithm, either way the receiver still need to know how to decompress

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 6

-mpressed, anything we do today is kind of an approximation, so you can only reduce it by a small percentage.

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Rofl have you ever watched Silicon Valley? Their app does this, and the idea behind it is definitely real.

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You absolutely can losslessly compress 10GB to 4KB, provided the 10GB is normalized. 10 billion zeros, for example.

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Emulation.

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Yes, data can be compressed without approximation. That's the reason why PNG format compresses without data loss. /a/V6scl

10 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Yeah, but it's also the reason why the compression rate is not that high. Same with flac.

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Not really. It all depends on what you're compressing. JPG and TIFF are good for Photos and PNG is good for Logos and other flat images.

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

JPG is not lossless. TIFF with RLE doesn't compress strongly.

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I've created this example for you. (took a lot of time)

10 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

please make one for pic and video

10 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

data can surely be compressed. text especially is highly compressible (and losslessly at that).

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ah good starting point is huffman (en)coding.

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Gif compression (still pic) works best on flat colour because it says 100x pixels of one colour, 25 of another, etc not each pixel.

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Yes. GIF is lossy. Others are lossless.

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GID is lossless.

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No, GIF is lossless within its encoding limitations (limited palette, etc.)

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Can diamonds be melted by jet fuel?

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That can't even melt steel beams.

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I learned that diamonds do not have a melting point- they heat up until the vapor stage and then turn to steam.

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Lots of polymers can't melt either, although they burn rather than vaporizing. Due to polymer crosslinking iirc. Like tires for example

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That's sublime my friend.

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Drip drip drip. Kung-fu grip.

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She didn't know you had it I bet.

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And actually can I get a source on that?

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My source was my old boss who bought precious metals. He said that since diamonds are essentially worthless on the secondhand market, >

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< they aren't worth the effort to get them out of a gold ring, for example. So when the ring is melted down for gold, it's thrown in the >

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< melting pot, diamonds and all. And since the diamonds dont melt, they just vaporise and the pure gold is left. I know that's not a real>

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon#/media/File:Carbon_basic_phase_diagram.png liquid carbon requires very high pressure.

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But if it is possible at all, then diamond melts

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Cement was lost because the Roman Empire fell, and it was too hard to get the volcanic ash needed to make it.

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Didn't the Romans also invent a cement that would set in seawater, as used in Ostia?

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Yes

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I can't see why they just can't examine such Roman cement using modern technology to say what exactly went into this ancient technology.

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That have. This entry is flawed on many levels.

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Why keep knowledge of the recipe when you have no access to the materials needed to make it.

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Well, there are good reasons to retain knowledge that's not presently useful, but I suppose it is something of a luxury.

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You're right, but my understanding is the Romans used MT Vesuvius. And if for ex you're British, how many generations do you bother.

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The ground pumice was key. The coliseum can stand for millennia because of it while our cement structures are lucky to last centuries.

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And the idea that their cement/concrete was better is laughable. Our concrete would last as long if we didn't put steel in it.

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Some of this is taken for granted that, "its all so good." When it's actually, "The only stuff left is the anomalously good stuff".

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It's hardly lost though. We just don't use it for a variety of reasons. Cost & speed being chief among them I'd wager.

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RC was actually better in a lot of respects. We can even make it and it's been used here and there in various things.

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That one is old. We know how to make it now. Someone found the recipe written down in some architects tomb.

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I'd like to see a source or something for that claim. It would be fascinating if indeed true.

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I was a bit off on my statement. We found it written down in a book written by a Roman architect named Vitruvius. We just didn't know (1)

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What the word he used for the "secret ingredient" meant or was. Then we figured it out. (2)

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Last page, column "THE SECRET ROMAN RECIPE" http://www.romanconcrete.com/Article1Secrets.pdf (3)

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Source?

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I was a bit off but not by much. Check reply chain for lordski. :)

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dot

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I was a bit off but not by much. Check reply chain for lordski. :)

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Portland cement also tended at 1st to be used in areas that encourage deleterious materials like magnesium silicate hydrate and thaumasite.

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use of pulverised volcanic material will reduce the amount of free water as the volcanic material needs lime (produced by cement) + water.

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Lower water to cement ratio then reduces the size of capillaries in the concrete matrix which reduces rate of any water ingress.

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We know exactly how and why the Gemini program parts work. It isn't lost tech, it is archaic. We have better technology.

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10 years ago (deleted Nov 13, 2016 7:13 AM) | Likes 0 Dislikes 0

Err - I point to the many satellites in orbit, and the Juno Jupiter orbiter whos radiation environment is _fucking_insane_.

10 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 0

To be fair, Juno isn't spending much time in the radiation belt. And it has all the electronics encased in a titanium box.

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True. The dose is still very much higher than anything faced by Gemini.

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For sure. But in general radiation is still a big problem for spacecraft even today. Less of a problem than for Gemini...but still a problem

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