Astrology for the most part is just harmless fun as far as I'm concerned but people who base everything about themselves and their life on it are dumb fucks.
Astrology is just stupid BS, like sooo many old views on what wasn't explainable Long ago ppl tried to put humans into boxes and decided to invent the "signs" to correlate with the stars and all that. It was just another attempt to explain stuff we couldn't yet explain otherwise. Almost as brilliant as saying the plants cure the ills in the organs they most look alike. 1/2
2/2 Science is something beautiful. Facts are facts! They can and are proven and with reproducible results. Science does not care about opinions, the facts don't care who you are, where you're from, don't care what you did as long as you love them! BSB aside, facts are facts and they do not care about anything, they just are!
Yeah, I'd say that reproducibility is the main reason science is useful and religion/astrology/superstition/etc is not. It allows you to DO things and PREDICT (or cause) the outcome.
Well, I do believe that the stars and planets affect your life. Some of them, at least. For example, today I'm feeling a bit under the weather because a certain star has been shining above my head all day and I didn't bring a hat >:( (man, it's hot as balls)
It's the same with Myers-Briggs. It amazes me how many people buy into that shit, (I often hear it called the business man's horoscope) You might think it was put together by a psychologist, and that they did some sort of testing to form the categories, right? NOPE! It was made by a woman who read a single Carl Jung book, and decided to start categorizing people (something Jung specifically called out as childish in said book) to sell her services.
It's really weird to me that myers briggs is still so widely used and taken seriously in the business world. I feel like most non-morons know astrology and tarot are laughable nonsense. MBTI is less absurd than those things as it removes the supernatural component, but it's still made up nonsense. It's a ridiculous oversimplification of a human to boil them down to 4 letters with binary values.
supporter of eugenics and racial segregation, and wrote books on both subjects.
But the entire mechanism of the Myers-Briggs system is just that it takes a person's self assessment and spits out generaly empty and easily malleable results that easily fit within almost anyones interpretation based loosely on the said self assessment. In other words, it's exactly the same as astrology.
Studies have shown that as many as 76% of participants will chance "personalities" from one test to the next
I think it's important to consider that these ideas—like BMI as a measure of health—might stick around because they are useful for arbitrarily including and excluding people. Often, people like them precisely because they can be used to confirm their biases. Glad to see you spell out the history, though, that shit has a chokehold on so many people...
For those who want something like this but with a bit more scientific support, look into the Big Five personality trait model, sometimes referred to by the acronym OCEAN, for Openness, Conscientiousness, Extraversion, Agreeableness, and Neuroticism. The traits are scored on spectra rather than dividing people into categories.
MBTI divides people into binary categories based on questions about spectra (e.g, an "I" for introverted, or an "E" for extroverted). Big Five gives a score that indicates a position on the continuum, rather than making everything binary. The science on it is still not super robust, but it's a lot better regarded than Myers-Briggs.
I've administered MBTI professionally. The tests results show you your position on the continuum. I'm not defending MBTI, but I can confidently tell you that this thing you are claiming makes Big Five better than MBTI, MBTI has that.
That...tragic. Unless it was some sort of example of manipulation or self fulfilling suggestions, but given the context of your statement, I'm guessing that's not the case.
I don't know if I'd say women are more prone to believe in this sort of stuff more than men (it's not like sports superstitions are any more logical). However, if I had to guess, I'd say that magical thinking in general (religion) is more attractive the less control you have over your life. It helps for humans to believe that there's a knowable path through the chaos rather than just chaos. And women have it pretty bad in a lot of situations.
Men love to shit on astrology and tarot specifically because women use them, but heaven forbid you point out their dumbfuck sports superstitions and gambling "strategies." Such self-righteous stones, such fragile glass egos. Look. You find a real way to accurately determine a shark's personality with little inference material while being chum in the dating pool, and that will immediately replace all other attempts to control and quiet the certainty that dating is unsafe.
I find atrology, tarot, superstitions, and gambling all to be a waste of time, or worse, actively detrimental if you really buy into them. Well, unless you're doing them just for fun. (There are worse ways to spend an evening than slowly spending $20 at a poker table chatting and drinking with friends.)
Generally speaking, I find trying to put people into categories is just a way to create in and out crowds. Us vs Them. I have better things to do with my time!
As a woman.... no, it's because it's ridiculous bullshit.
Believe what you want, but this is not a man v. woman thing. The second half of your tirade is just gibberish that I suspect is based on your personal experiences and should not be extrapolated to include all people in any one category. Hope life treats you better.
https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/dating-partners-more-violent-and-account-more-domestic-violence-spouses 82% of intimate partner abuse comes from dating, not marriage. You can call it gibberish because you are among the lucky 2/3rds of women who never face physical violence or rape. Wish two of my sisters were as fortunate. But most men all seem so nice, until they are not. Astrology is like religion - it's comforting to think it can protect you with pat answers even though it can't.
97309417_Why_Women_Are_More_Inclined_to_Believe_in_Astrology_and_Tarot_The_Interplay_of_Gender_Culture_and_Social_Structure">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/397309417_Why_Women_Are_More_Inclined_to_Believe_in_Astrology_and_Tarot_The_Interplay_of_Gender_Culture_and_Social_Structure twice as many women than men believe in astrology, https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/study-shows-lgbtq-people-love-171312844.html gay men like astrology more than straight men. Straight men love to shit on femininity. https://www.hercampus.com/school/nanyang-tech/let-us-enjoy-our-hobbies-the-unnecessary-hate-on-feminine-activities/
My mom believes in astrology so I tried this the last time she brought it up. I read my horoscope for the day and she said it made sense because “you’re a cancer”, only to reveal it was her horoscope. It’s amazing how we still have people thinking the positions of stars and planets at your birth have any influence over your personality.
I always found the Chinese Zodiac even stranger because it's based on the year you were born. So every single person born in the same year has a similar personality? Five minutes in any classroom will teach you otherwise.
I can't imagine why people are downvoting Weird Al. Especially when some assface just copied my comment word for word, and it's got a bunch of upvotes.
Step 1: copy comment containing YouTube link, replacing YouTube with shady site you're monetizing. Step 2: have a swarm of bots upvote your comment so that it gets visibility. Step 3: have the same bots downvote the original comment so that people can't see that you stole it.
This shit has been going on for months on Imgur. The site admins know and won't do shit about it. It's frustrating because it punishes legitimate commenters like you. :'(
it is not, it is just stupid BS. long ago ppl tried to put humans into boxes and decided to invent the "signs" to correlate with the stars and all that. It was just another attempt to explain stuff we couldn't yet explain otherwise. Almost as brilliant as saying the plants cure the ills in the organs they most look alike. 1/2
2/2 Science is something beautiful. Facts are facts, they can and are proven and with reproducible results. Science does not care about opinions, the facts don't care who you are, where you're from, don't care what you did as long as you love them.
Astrology is a way for people to selectively hate other people while having a scapegoat for everything that goes wrong in your life. They're incredibly vulnerable to conspiracy theories and ignore facts. Tell me that's not Misogynists
Better than that, astrology was developed as an April Fool's joke by a right-wing rag (I think the Telegraph in 1928). It was popular enough that they continued, and other Brit newspapers followed the bandwagon.
YippeeKayakOB
astrology is 100% post rationalization.
P0sit1veTh0ughts
Ryan Goodcase
niekitty
I've been told my astrological sign is an unexpected solar eclipse and disembodied heavy metal.
richtus
He's obviously lying because Jupiters not in Gatorade.
theinternetkeepsmealive
Astrology for the most part is just harmless fun as far as I'm concerned but people who base everything about themselves and their life on it are dumb fucks.
cousteau
Yeah, that's a very Sagittarius thing to do /s
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OhIfIMust
How about you make your own comments instead of copying mine.
cousteau
Was it the spambot?
OhIfIMust
Evidently!
cousteau
I hate that guy. Been reporting it every time I see it, but it would help if Imgur just blocked the links…
JackHL01
Astrology is just stupid BS, like sooo many old views on what wasn't explainable
Long ago ppl tried to put humans into boxes and decided to invent the "signs" to correlate with the stars and all that. It was just another attempt to explain stuff we couldn't yet explain otherwise. Almost as brilliant as saying the plants cure the ills in the organs they most look alike.
1/2
JackHL01
2/2 Science is something beautiful.
Facts are facts!
They can and are proven and with reproducible results. Science does not care about opinions, the facts don't care who you are, where you're from, don't care what you did as long as you love them!
BSB aside, facts are facts and they do not care about anything, they just are!
cousteau
Yeah, I'd say that reproducibility is the main reason science is useful and religion/astrology/superstition/etc is not. It allows you to DO things and PREDICT (or cause) the outcome.
Gr8OldOne
Great shirt.
devasto
I've seen a few of his bits. Who is this?
eadanke
Who would have thought that using an Iraqi farmer's almanac to predict your personality, and fortune, would be somewhat flawed.
newsguycraigevans
Learning to talk about astrology, tarot, and palm reading got me many dates back in the day.
crescentfreshgoodness
Who told you you was a Virgo?
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Astrology is almost as stupid as math. Trust me, I'm a physicist.
cousteau
Well, I do believe that the stars and planets affect your life. Some of them, at least. For example, today I'm feeling a bit under the weather because a certain star has been shining above my head all day and I didn't bring a hat >:( (man, it's hot as balls)
illmx
Incognitomodeactivated
Please forward this to all religions, thank you.
illmx
dalaimickey
Who is the comedian?
zHurk777
Stupid, ain't it. dumb fvcks.
marthafarquar
Here is todays news : In a stunning validation of the accuracy of Astrology all Capricorns were run over by a bus today.
Skuggen
I'll have you know I'm a scorpio and I haven't betrayed anyone all day.
Nalianna
... yet.
SubiBryant
Day ain't over.
Incognitomodeactivated
+1!
GravyEducation
I thought Gemini were supposed to be the duplicitous ones
Nephytis
idk what they are going on about..loyalty is one of our defining traits.
madjo
But you told me you were a Pisces! I've never been so betrayed in my life!
thechelonianshelmet
Later tonight however..
Xilir8
Lies
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supervillin
BallsToYouMyGoodSir
earth, the planet earth is making you sad
DrBlackJack
It's the same with Myers-Briggs. It amazes me how many people buy into that shit, (I often hear it called the business man's horoscope) You might think it was put together by a psychologist, and that they did some sort of testing to form the categories, right? NOPE! It was made by a woman who read a single Carl Jung book, and decided to start categorizing people (something Jung specifically called out as childish in said book) to sell her services.
Incidently, that same person was a big
OneOfTheGoodOnes
SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem
It's really weird to me that myers briggs is still so widely used and taken seriously in the business world. I feel like most non-morons know astrology and tarot are laughable nonsense. MBTI is less absurd than those things as it removes the supernatural component, but it's still made up nonsense. It's a ridiculous oversimplification of a human to boil them down to 4 letters with binary values.
mcneelyj
The value isn’t in identifying yourself but in thinking about other communication styles to help you work with other types of people.
Self labeling is actually a bit more destructive. A means to an end I guess.
DrBlackJack
supporter of eugenics and racial segregation, and wrote books on both subjects.
But the entire mechanism of the Myers-Briggs system is just that it takes a person's self assessment and spits out generaly empty and easily malleable results that easily fit within almost anyones interpretation based loosely on the said self assessment. In other words, it's exactly the same as astrology.
Studies have shown that as many as 76% of participants will chance "personalities" from one test to the next
imjustheretoholdyourhandwhenyoudie
I think it's important to consider that these ideas—like BMI as a measure of health—might stick around because they are useful for arbitrarily including and excluding people. Often, people like them precisely because they can be used to confirm their biases.
Glad to see you spell out the history, though, that shit has a chokehold on so many people...
emertonom
For those who want something like this but with a bit more scientific support, look into the Big Five personality trait model, sometimes referred to by the acronym OCEAN, for Openness, Conscientiousness, Extraversion, Agreeableness, and Neuroticism. The traits are scored on spectra rather than dividing people into categories.
Username62611
MBTI is also scored on spectra
emertonom
MBTI divides people into binary categories based on questions about spectra (e.g, an "I" for introverted, or an "E" for extroverted). Big Five gives a score that indicates a position on the continuum, rather than making everything binary. The science on it is still not super robust, but it's a lot better regarded than Myers-Briggs.
Username62611
I've administered MBTI professionally. The tests results show you your position on the continuum. I'm not defending MBTI, but I can confidently tell you that this thing you are claiming makes Big Five better than MBTI, MBTI has that.
MrGhostbuster
I bought into ot for a while because I literally learned about it in a college psychology class.
DrBlackJack
That...tragic. Unless it was some sort of example of manipulation or self fulfilling suggestions, but given the context of your statement, I'm guessing that's not the case.
MrGhostbuster
It was like 20-25 years ago, so maybe it hadn't been debunked yet? I don't know.
DrBlackJack
It was never bunked enough to need to be de-ing! (Yes, that was pointlessly worded oddly, but I have to amuse myself somehow!)
OobedoobScoobyDoobyBenubi
Astrology is for morons. And not trying to sound misogynistic, but why are the vast majority of astrology believers women? Genuine question
lildude52ca
sounds like something a Libra would say ...
igetit41
I don't know if I'd say women are more prone to believe in this sort of stuff more than men (it's not like sports superstitions are any more logical). However, if I had to guess, I'd say that magical thinking in general (religion) is more attractive the less control you have over your life. It helps for humans to believe that there's a knowable path through the chaos rather than just chaos. And women have it pretty bad in a lot of situations.
OobedoobScoobyDoobyBenubi
Ya I guess that makes sense to look at it that way. And ya sport’s superstitions are dumb af too lol
B1tchtastic
Men love to shit on astrology and tarot specifically because women use them, but heaven forbid you point out their dumbfuck sports superstitions and gambling "strategies." Such self-righteous stones, such fragile glass egos. Look. You find a real way to accurately determine a shark's personality with little inference material while being chum in the dating pool, and that will immediately replace all other attempts to control and quiet the certainty that dating is unsafe.
harlequin2262
Or like, 'Alpha/Beta/Sigma' male etc.
DrBlackJack
I find atrology, tarot, superstitions, and gambling all to be a waste of time, or worse, actively detrimental if you really buy into them. Well, unless you're doing them just for fun. (There are worse ways to spend an evening than slowly spending $20 at a poker table chatting and drinking with friends.)
Generally speaking, I find trying to put people into categories is just a way to create in and out crowds. Us vs Them. I have better things to do with my time!
pleaseuseotherdoor
As a woman.... no, it's because it's ridiculous bullshit.
Believe what you want, but this is not a man v. woman thing. The second half of your tirade is just gibberish that I suspect is based on your personal experiences and should not be extrapolated to include all people in any one category.
Hope life treats you better.
B1tchtastic
https://penntoday.upenn.edu/news/dating-partners-more-violent-and-account-more-domestic-violence-spouses 82% of intimate partner abuse comes from dating, not marriage. You can call it gibberish because you are among the lucky 2/3rds of women who never face physical violence or rape. Wish two of my sisters were as fortunate. But most men all seem so nice, until they are not. Astrology is like religion - it's comforting to think it can protect you with pat answers even though it can't.
B1tchtastic
97309417_Why_Women_Are_More_Inclined_to_Believe_in_Astrology_and_Tarot_The_Interplay_of_Gender_Culture_and_Social_Structure">https://www.researchgate.net/publication/397309417_Why_Women_Are_More_Inclined_to_Believe_in_Astrology_and_Tarot_The_Interplay_of_Gender_Culture_and_Social_Structure twice as many women than men believe in astrology, https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/study-shows-lgbtq-people-love-171312844.html gay men like astrology more than straight men. Straight men love to shit on femininity. https://www.hercampus.com/school/nanyang-tech/let-us-enjoy-our-hobbies-the-unnecessary-hate-on-feminine-activities/
Nanntuckett
My mom believes in astrology so I tried this the last time she brought it up. I read my horoscope for the day and she said it made sense because “you’re a cancer”, only to reveal it was her horoscope. It’s amazing how we still have people thinking the positions of stars and planets at your birth have any influence over your personality.
Heisanevilgenius
I always found the Chinese Zodiac even stranger because it's based on the year you were born. So every single person born in the same year has a similar personality? Five minutes in any classroom will teach you otherwise.
MrAcurite
If Astrology works, then how can twins have wildly different personalities?
stephseviltwinII
They're all Geminis! Wait...
SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem
It really bums me out that stuff like astrology and tarot are still actually believed in 2026. It feels really embarrassing and anachronistic.
zHurk777
You mom is a stupid fvck, so maga mom. congratulations.
CaptainScarfish
Pot, kettle.
Nanntuckett
She isn’t maga… she’s voted Democrat for decades. She’s just older and has some supernatural beliefs.
OhIfIMust
Here's a little ditty on the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XjlD6yYq5as
cousteau
I should listen to Weird Al more often.
BargYartson
I was hoping it was what it was and it was.
OhIfIMust
I can't imagine why people are downvoting Weird Al. Especially when some assface just copied my comment word for word, and it's got a bunch of upvotes.
cousteau
Step 1: copy comment containing YouTube link, replacing YouTube with shady site you're monetizing.
Step 2: have a swarm of bots upvote your comment so that it gets visibility.
Step 3: have the same bots downvote the original comment so that people can't see that you stole it.
This shit has been going on for months on Imgur. The site admins know and won't do shit about it. It's frustrating because it punishes legitimate commenters like you. :'(
OhIfIMust
Wild...
boevis
Astrology is is just misogyny for women.
JackHL01
it is not, it is just stupid BS. long ago ppl tried to put humans into boxes and decided to invent the "signs" to correlate with the stars and all that. It was just another attempt to explain stuff we couldn't yet explain otherwise. Almost as brilliant as saying the plants cure the ills in the organs they most look alike.
1/2
JackHL01
2/2 Science is something beautiful. Facts are facts, they can and are proven and with reproducible results. Science does not care about opinions, the facts don't care who you are, where you're from, don't care what you did as long as you love them.
idiotsonfire
Astrology isn't science.
JackHL01
yes, it isn't i believe, that what i said a bit more convoluted!
boevis
Astrology is a way for people to selectively hate other people while having a scapegoat for everything that goes wrong in your life. They're incredibly vulnerable to conspiracy theories and ignore facts. Tell me that's not Misogynists
pleaseuseotherdoor
Because astrology is not enjoyed or followed, or whatever, exclusively by women.
boevis
Misogyny isn't exclusive to men
FoamingToad
Better than that, astrology was developed as an April Fool's joke by a right-wing rag (I think the Telegraph in 1928). It was popular enough that they continued, and other Brit newspapers followed the bandwagon.
BellicoseBreakfast
Astrology is BS, but it dates back to ancient Mesopotamia, not 1928.