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This is not how we mine coal!
I want to teach imgur a little bit about my livelihood, I hope you enjoy the read!
Education
I graduated from Virginia Tech (GO HOKIES!) with a BS in Mining Engineering a few years ago and I've been coal mining ever since. I get asked a lot if it is a 4 year degree - yes it is. We have to study everything other engineers learn including thermodynamics, electrical theory, statics, dynamics, deforms. Some coursework in my major included mine design, blasting, ventilation, geophysics, and engineering economics.
Please hug your local engineer students, it's tough!
Conditions
Many people ask if I have to crawl around all day long - nope! I drive an F-150 underground. Speed limit is 25, but I've never gotten pulled over down there (all the trucks have governor chips set to 25). Some mines in the Appa-latch-in Mountains are only 4 ft. high, but I've never worked there.
The walls are white with "rock dust", this prevents coal dust from being breathed in and coal dust is also combustable - you don't want it floating around.
We don't mine with pickaxes!
This is the backbone of any high production coal mine - the longwall shearer. It moves back and forth cutting out massive amounts of coal which is then transported via conveyor systems all the way out of the mine. Some mines are only accessed by a shaft (vertical tunnel) and hoist, but I've only worked in mines that are accessed by a long slope (you just drive right down to 900 ft. underground).
My mine produces 5 million tons of coal annually.
Safety (and another longwall shot!)
Another thing people ask is how dangerous it is. I can honestly say that I've never felt in danger. I read a statistic from the US Department of Labor that says underground coal mining has a lower accident incident rate than grocery stores, department stores, hospitals, and hotels. That being said, people do still lose their lives. Working around heavy machinery in close quarters is inherently dangerous.
Isn't it a dying field? (front view of a continuous miner)
Coal consumption is still rising due to the high demand for electricity, but it isn't growing like it has in the past. My company is still growing and my mine is planning on tripling production in the near future. However, many coal companies that were previously "swimming in cash" are now out of business because they can't survive with the dropping price of coal. Mining coal will be around for the rest of our lives no matter what - good or bad. Coal is required to make steel even if we no longer use it for electricity.
About the image - this is a continuous miner. In mines out the entries (where we drive and set up belt lines and ventilation). Some small mines only use continuous miners, but they have nowhere near the efficiency and recovery rates that longwall shearers have. Most mines use 2-3 continuous miners per 1 longwall shearer.
Wages (and another view of the longwall shearer)
Mining engineering pays at about the same level as chemical engineering, computer science, and petroleum engineering. I started at $70k and moved up from there. The hours are very long though - I start at 6AM and get off at 5PM.
Thanks for listening! (this is a view of a miner using a remote controlled continuous miner)
Most of the equipment is remote controlled, so that miners don't need to be under unsupported roof or near the cutting heads. Maybe someday automation will become so advanced that coal mining won't require my services anymore - who knows what the future holds?
Feel free to ask me any questions - I love my field and hope that you guys learned something from reading this!
theguywiththe40
go hokies!
lovegoats
Yeah!! Fellow Hokie right here!
supercreativename
+1 for Hokies!!! Go Tech!
bsthunder04
Fellow hokie on the front page, I love it!
gabzillaaa5
As a Civil Engineer at Virginia Tech, GO HOKIES!!!!
kyralals
oh hey im in ISE at Virginia Tech too its so nice to see a fellow hokie! lol Haiii!
lmo789
GO HOKIES
WonkySeaDonkey
Do you have a daughter named Loretta?
anglophilestymie
You deserve more points. Like, lodes more points.
WonkySeaDonkey
Lodes... I see what you did there. ⬆
badatom
[CLAUSTROPHOBIA INTENSIFIES]
goodyoda13
It's actually really nice down there
badatom
It actually looks relatively spacious but the thought of all those tons of rock over my head is scary. I bet it doesn't bother you guys!
goodyoda13
It feels like being in a bunker, safe and sound
TheShySquigglyLine
FUCK YEA HOKIES
MinedOut
VT MinE! What's up?
goodyoda13
Hokies!
TheLannistersSendALovelyFruitBasket
GO HOKIES
IntergalacticFlyingDolphins
GO HOKIES! :D
JKVT
YAY Virginia Tech engineering :D
ManicMotorcycleMan
Fellow Hokie Mining and Minerals Engineering here. Headed into the USAF after graduation but always good to see a fellow Hokie on here!!!
vaross
...Hi Chris! :D
steamedorfried
Roderick?
goodyoda13
Awesome, congrats!
mockingjay137
As an architecture major sitting in West AJ right now, GO HOKIES! <3
walkernotskywalker
Holy crap what year?? I'm an architecture major sitting in WAJ right now too. I'm in second year
mockingjay137
Wtf who's studio?? I'm a second year too!!
walkernotskywalker
Paola's but you probably know by now since you figured out who I am haha
Captnjak
And now I feel like an old Hokie... Wishing I was back in Terrace View.
mockingjay137
I'm living there next year! :)
Captnjak
Lucky, it's all about that ground floor in 5000!
mockingjay137
Wait. Walker? Casey?
walkernotskywalker
YES!! haha who is this?
mockingjay137
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA I don't really want to release my name on Imgur but I'll tell you that shake you make me was sufficiently oreoy :)
mockingjay137
*made omg
HokieDokieArtichokie
lolol whats up casey
walkernotskywalker
haha hey Alex
Hokies4Life24
I'M FINALLY RELEVANT! GO HOKIES!!!!!!!!!
g00dvibes
For OP: Do all other countries have well-educated miners running advanced heavy machinery in coal mines, or is it just well off countries?
caromonster
Aussies make tons of money at mines...same general rule of 1st world countries have great salaries, 3rd world has not-so-good everything.
awesomazing89
Indian here. Conditions for miners are horrible. Conditions for engineers great because they don't do shit (government jobs FTW)
CamelliaBoffinofNeedlehole
As a West Virginian... OP's post certainly not applicable to many mines in coal country.
goodyoda13
China is the largest producer of coal, and the conditions there are horrible from what I've read. We have very strict regulations in the US.
wirefire
>China is the largest, and the conditions there are horrible.
g00dvibes
That's what I thought. I kept hearing about those awful accidents in mines in recent month, and the description of their working (1/2)
g00dvibes
conditions sounded like they were using pickaxes. I guess a lot of misconceptions could come from the lack of education on current affairs
dsswaff
This is why I love my university! Go hokies!
nathancotton
GO HOKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WonTooTreeWhoreHive
Hey I go VT currently and am in engineering! Way to go OP!!
anerdist
That's pretty cool. Have an upvote for teaching me something! +1
godzillasgreatleader
Masta got me workin! All the day I workin, sumday masta gonna set me freeee
beh2omyfriend
That's pretty coal *FTFY
ArcaneM37
I am an engineerong stident. It is tough. I will be accepting my hugs now. Please form a single file line.
BingleyBingleyBeep
You might want to work on your spelling before you go submitting any theses...
iamsetfree
I bet he's the Underminer from the end of The Incredibles.
goodyoda13
Thanks! I love talking about my job, I really enjoy what I do.
SeasickBunyon
I work in western PA for a coal company. I'm definitely content with this type of career.
brooklynsmama716
+1 for western PA! Westmoreland County over here! My ex worked at Dana Mining!
FrenchyVonRichter
Hokies!
HolyHokie
LET'S GO!!!
eviscera
HOKIES!
nutmegwolf
Brother went to Virginia Tech. +1 for Hokies!
nutmegwolf
upvotes for both of you!
skinnerburnsred
my brother did too! we're practically brothers!
GrowliePants
So did my brother! Have another +1
kejigoto
Some pretty interesting stuff here though I was hoping to see this in the mix:
goodyoda13
I realize I should have put that in the end!
kejigoto
You had one job!
HenryDavidThrow
Yeah, coal mining. Do you expect him to work moar?!
TheLivinLegend
I've got the black lung, pa!
condogs
I was looking to see if someone would post this gif, I was not disappointed. Thank you.
SeasickBunyon
I was in that mine where they filmed it! It's actually an old zinc mine.
NooneintheVerse
+1 for a fellow Hokie! HIIII! :D
reallyreallyrelevant
As a fellow Hokie, WHY IS THIS SO EXCITING?!? Ahh, loud noises.
MushroomCloudsForJesus
Class of 2011! Ahhhhh more loud noises. I miss the drill field :(
kunithehero
it's a dirty job, but somebody has to do it http://imgur.com/oI9GjdQ
tmd1000
I wore black eyeliner for a year.....
lesbianyellowsourfruit
literally as soon as i saw the title i thought to post this gif. +1 for getting to it 10 hours before me :)
dorman13
http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mikerowe.jpg
kunithehero
as a straight male, I am in love with his voice
dorman13
He's an opera singer.
kunithehero
haha yes he was, and he sold shit on QVC https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rChjMRfi40c
goodyoda13
I got the black lung daddy!
dorman13
http://www.todaysmachiningworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/mikerowe.jpg
MantisTobagganMD
Pop*
BarrythebionicdouchebagDylan
It's not very well ventilated down there.
goodyoda13
It sure is!
iamgodzilla
+1 for Appa-latch-in distinction (not Appa-lay-shun!)
laughingwiseman
I've always given people this advice: Say it "Appalachia" or I'll throw an apple atcha.
ByTheBeardOfSeuss
Beat me to it.
TheGoldenRatio
Thanks, but scumbag brain will still want to pronounce it Appa-lay-shun.
seanythebear
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c6/En-us-Appalachian.ogg
Muttons1337
I'm from PA and we say "Appa-lay-shun"!
iamgodzilla
It's very biased to give just half of the Wikipedia information.
hesitantkarma
+1 for your +1!
francisdolarhyde
It actually depends on the region, a lot of people on the nw side of the range pronounce it "lay-shun", vs the core and se side (1/2)
francisdolarhyde
using "latch". My family is all nw side urban appalachian, and we use both interchangeably. Just depends on the area. (2/2)
emotionallydevoid
I use both with my whole family being from Kentucky and then being raised in Maryland. I have an identity crisis.
LittleKittenWithLittleMittens
TIL it's a regional thing. I've always used "lay-shun". I'm from NW Appalachia, and I was so confused the first time I heard "latch".
iamgodzilla
I figured it was a regional thing. I lived the in Southern portion for a few years, so I only ever heard "latch"...now I know why!
Muttons1337
I live in South-East Pennsylvania, one of the leaders in coal exporting, and all I've ever heard and said was "Appa-lay-shun"
francisdolarhyde
Language is cool and weird.
SweetBabyJesusBaconFlavoredNutellaMountainDewApplePieMooQuack
Question. Is the truck you drive a zero emission vehicle?
goodyoda13
Good question. Diesel particulate matter (DPM) is very dangerous underground. All the large equipment is purely electric, but the trucks (1)
goodyoda13
are diesel. We would use electric cars if there were any that could keep up with the conditions. These trucks are about $100k because of (2)
John31s
OP has a f-250, not an f-150 so its diesel to avoid the issues of gasoline underground. VT MinE class of 2016.
goodyoda13
all the fire repression systems that are on them. (3)
Kikage
Now I'm working on converting cranes from tier 3 to tier 4 engines and vice versa :D 2/2
Kikage
Last year I worked for a company that makes fire suppression equipment... most of it went on mining vehicles! 1/2
goodyoda13
Very cool! You probably know a lot more about it than me!
Kikage
But yeah, they'd make equipment for mining and construction vehicles across the world, and go to conventions and stuff, it was cool!
Kikage
Like I made the setup and display and 3D diagrams for their booth at MineEXPO in Vegas :D I wish I coulda gone (._.)
goodyoda13
I heard MineEXPO is a blast!
Kikage
A little... I loved the first place, most fun company I've worked at, but was a temp job :(
Swordsy
We aren't allowed standard diesel vehicles in Aussie ug coal mines. Engine comp needs to be Flameproof with scrubbers on the exhaust.
Swordsy
typical ug transport http://clearcutmining.com/Portals/0/EasyGalleryImages/1/8/underground_coal_mining_mobile_equipment_Drift%20Runner.jpg
weekend
I have no interest in mining coal, however as an aspiring evil genius I have the following questions:
AntsyInTheirPantsy
What are the environmental ramifications for the Appalachian ecosystem due to heavy coal mining? Is there such a thing as "clean coal"?
Maethoriel
Wow. The weekend suddenly got a lot more menacing.
Piegiver
Where do babies come from?
ShowMeYourGarden
Your mom.
sighnomore
the frozen food section of the grocery store
sighnomore
no joke, a kid i used to babysit thought that's where babies come from.
whatshappeninghere
If you are in fact planning to make your own hell, with gambling and prostitutes, I would like to be part of that movement.
littlegirlsaremadeoutofgunpowderandlead
Robot hell? http://pool.theinfosphere.org/images/1/1e/Rbot_Devil_Singing-6ACV19.png
StuW88
C...Can I come too?
EvilShenanigans
This sounds like my kind of party. I'm in.
gingerzwillruletheworld
With flapjack and hookers?
imgoingtobuildmyownhousewithblackjackandhookers
I have interest in this as well
earlywormy
Would've guessed by the name.
weekend
How could it be hell if there is gambling and prostitutes? Also yes.
Corki
count me in. i will be the perfect brainless thug.
DaenerysTargaryenIsMySpiritAnimal
i can offer about 10 cents of investment, i also have some experience in world domination and friends on the other side.
FlamboyantTitans
Room for one more?
whatshappeninghere
well that kind of stuff is illegal in heaven, duh. nice, now we only have to wait for OP to deliver.
LordChappers
Is weekend Dr Krieger?
StopReadingThisUsername
The Gambling and prostitutes angle points more towards Bender Bending Rodriguez.
weekend
We have a lot in common but no I'm not, I'm a totally different and definitely real person.
stutteringbob
As an active evil genius I have learned that you never tell anyone that until it's far too late for them to stop you. No monologues either!
MarshallEriksen
Or capes!
shaffeybaby
I want to favorite this!!
WrongReference
How much wood would a woodchuck chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood?
rwknoll
It would chuck as much wood as a woodchuck could chuck if a woodchuck could chuck wood.
Chucknormous
+1 for correct use of username
johnnytwoknees
When you are our overlord can I be your jester? I can sorta juggle... and curl my tongue
weekend
I can't juggle but I can curl my tongue too! I can even reach my nose with my tongue, a skill more people should have in my opinion.
johnnytwoknees
I can make one eye crosseyed and the other one look forward. Hah!
weekend
That's amazing! I can't do that at all and yes I just tried.
johnnytwoknees
ChaosLierLen637
I am willing to help you take over the world in any way necessary so long as I can be King & Warden of Australia.
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GalaxiousCosmo
Like your comment, stupid.
eggmuffin
Quite bland and stringy, in my experience.. But that may vary greatly according to breed and diet.
weekend
If I would keep minions inside a mine at all times, are there health risks associated with that?
jineb
Vitamin D deficiency, and lungs problems leading to silicosis. Maybe insanity, but that may not be a problem for you.
greymouser7
With the right kind of people, not insanity, we just make fun everything(professional indoor operator speaking here),kind of like imgurians!
ilovealots
As an ochem phd who is around silica dust all day, fuck silicosis
jineb
Invest in gas masks, and vitamin reinforcement.
weekend
Those things could take years to effect operations. Sounds like I just need to replace the minions every so often and I'd be good.
jineb
(My great-grandfather died of silicosis, my father told me it was like he was coughing and spitting tar, like a heavy smoker in final phase)
DisguisedAsAnAdult
+1 for the second paragraph
goodyoda13
I would make sure you keep them well ventilated
jineb
Do you still make ventilation shafts for this ? Or use ventilation machines to shuffle the air ?
goodyoda13
We have a huge fan outside of the mine that sucks in all the air
PrimevalDoctor
Jesus christ, all the air? People need that you know.
Stopwritingthatdown
Those are all very good questions, weekend.
Lesroisdumonde
Have you ever found dinosaur's bones?
DRAMATICRUST
Houin kyoma! Our whatever
jowyatreides
Is it easy to mod the longvall shearer in case I want to use it above ground, if so, will cars fling away on impact?
goodyoda13
We set them up above ground to test them out. It would completely shred a line of cars to pieces
ICantBelieveThisUsernameWasStillAvailable
That's so metal!
5auron
How about cows?
goodyoda13
Yep, ground beef.
weekend
What sort of stuff can it mine or can it only move through what I imagine is some sort of coal vain? Could it be used for simple tunnels?
dotslashsandwich
I just upvoted this to 666 points. How fitting..
goodyoda13
It can mine through any rock. Coal seams are softer than most rock though, so it can mine through coal much more quickly than rock.
weekend
My area has a lot of soft sand and some clay before getting to any rock. Do you use something else for the soft stuff or the same machine?
goodyoda13
You can, but it would probably be better to use an excavator
weekend
Noted, I learned so much today :D When I get the money I'll send you a message to see if you're interested in training the minions. Thanks!
svenfelt
Be aware of the blocks above when mining sand!
svenfysik
I like your username!
driveslow
offthechainreference.gif
tckng
tankmemes
i will always upvote minecraft- nobody but me
HamzaKharal
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NovemberIndiaCharlieKilo
I laughed at your comment...then realized you actually asked follow up questions. Then laughed more. +1
jacketyjack
Tagalong. what happens to a mine when it runs dry? Could one buy/rent it?
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MelfsAcidArrow
whole new twist on "working for the weekend" eh?
spaerkles
I wish I could give more than just +1; thanks for the chuckle!
EngineeringUltimate
The only difference between an evil genius and an engineer is that engineers don't always end their invention names in -inator.
ItscoldoutsideTheresnokindofatmosphere
This is gold.
appaismyspiritanimal
So that's why Doofenshmurz never can get anything accomplished.
Caremono
And a doctorate degree...
HypersonicHarpist
So if an engineer with a doctorate degree names an invention something that ends in -inator they automatically qualify as an evil genius?
Caremono
if the xxxx-inator helped him to dominate the world, yes!
HighwayWizard
Aha, foolish engineers! I will turn all their devices into -inators with my -intatorintator, making us ALL evil geniuses!
eggmuffin
You could have them build you an incineratorinator for those special incineration needs.
EngineeringUltimate
Conundrum...the only way to make a device to remove the -inator is to name the device de-inatorinator....and thus become an evil genius.
HighwayWizard
Yes, the plan is ENTIRELY foolproof, but just for safety I will put this self-destruct button for my whole evil lair on this control panel.
EngineeringUltimate
You leave me no choice. Time to call in OWCA.
ChameleonFacedGoon
I too have played the computer game Evil Genius.
Brained
FrozenGenesis
But you're the weekend, how could you be evil? :(
weekend
Necessity. I want 4 day weekends for all, and the only way to get that is by doing horrible horrible things.
DatSass
TIL... "Everybody working for the weekend" is not just a catchy tune... it's reality
weekend
What is the price to purchase and maintain on one of those continuous miners?
goodyoda13
About $15 million for a new one. Usually we estimate yearly operational and maintenance costs at 10% of capital cost.
nodisco
Everyone is nodding right now - These are the questions people.
spiritussancto
as a fellow evil overlord i would like to cordially invite you to join our semi-annual meeting and social mixer
Redwind007
if theres enough for a mixer there's enough of you to all buy one in equal shares ;)
evilkittie
if you are a evil genius build your own (or force someone to)
weekend
Of course, but if I steal the plans I'd still be looking at 2 to 3 million. Even more if the mining industry works on lower margins.
twostepsfromlost
Tag along: How difficult would it be to hollow out an active volcano?
mademyaccountjusttosaythis
isnt a volcano already hollow? i mean if you remove the lava/molten rock
weekend
I've already learned that volcanic rock is pretty hard and would be expensive. It's also a bitch to cool your lair when using a volcano.
WhatsAJib
On the other hand ... saves on heating! Plus it's basically free geothermal energy – a vital asset for 8/10 super villains.
cr668288
As a mechanical engineering student soon to graduate, HIRE ME!
InboxMeYourGermanShepherdDog
wait me too!
engineerthisorthatorall
Ditto! Hire me too!
goodyoda13
I started off in mechanical because I loved working with big machines. I joined mining because they actually work with them!
thisismysocialsecuritynumber
I'm studying geophysics, how much of it is involved in this field?
goodyoda13
Geophysics is really important in the exploration phase, but we don't do much day-to-day
thorbatestogirls
so about that black lung... in these days, how likely is a coal miner getting it? Is there some sort of safety precautions?
goodyoda13
Yep! You can avoid it using an air filter and we also cover the walls with rock dust to prevent coal dust from getting into the air
thorbatestogirls
That's awesome. Any creepers down there?
goodyoda13
Yeah but if you hit them and run they won't blow you up. Bows work too.
stchameau
As an engineering student not soon to graduate, you can just hug me, that would be cool
samster13
As a former mechanical engineering student who switch out last semester after 2.5 years..... good luck! May you do what I could not :/
Butjam
Materials Engineer with 2 years to go... I'll hold you
samlicker81
*hug*
stchameau
awwwwn *hug*. And also lick, Sam Licker. *winkwinknudgenudge*
samlicker81
that escalated quickly