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(originally posted by @SeandersE on 2017-09-12 05:12:22)
Sep 11, 2018 9:00 AM
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(originally posted by @SeandersE on 2017-09-12 05:12:22)
tiddersandbacon
You can't win arguments with facts and sound reasoning. You do it by blaming your neighbor for all of your problems
Appel99
Step 1. Consider whether it’s important to prove that someone wrong.
temporarilyhuman
Instructions unclear, am now on spaceship to Mars.
DoYouWantUsToGetAntsBecauseThatsHowYouGetAnts
Ask them to explain their thoughts first ... Well if you don't know what you did, there's no point in me telling you!
Nimits
Just because you win an arguement, doesn’t mean you are right.
flakeOfDoom
But if you're right and can't win arguments, you're missing out on the opportunity to educate people.
DavidS2048
This will only work if the arrangement is based on logic and not emotion. If it's emotion, no logic will work.
jnoahj
They should rename part 1"how to engage politely with another human being" and part 2 "how to use logical fallacies to your advantage."
alefiorentina
Strawman and slippery slope your opponent until they become frustrated. Declare yourself the "winner"
vialofcorruption
Rigierish
It's weird, all the politicians in France, especially Macron use and used this techniques, mhh...
ZeroTA
Sales 101. Don’t use negatives. Never say no, not, can’t, won’t. Say “and” instead of “but”.
kirmes
but wait there is more ....
pizzapartyhard
Arguments aren’t won or lost, they are presented. Some arguments are stronger than others; some are valid and some are invalid.
Attaroo
Yeah, the word choice is interesting. Substtitute discussion with argument and it take on an entirely different meaning.
pizzapartyhard
Yeah, I’d view it more as a conflict of opinion or disagreement.
CaptainLaserQuacker
This is interesting, but more than learning how to WIN an argument, we should learn how to accept that we could be wrong in first place. 1/2
CaptainLaserQuacker
I think two people have to see themselves as a team to find a new solution or answer to their common question, not like two opponents.
doesntmatter
Well I'm convinced.
Attaroo
doesntmatter
TestingOneTwoThree
Avoid using too many facts?! Isn't that what should win any argument?
cynicatt
Ok, but how do you talk a delusional know-it-all moron into being receptive of new information?
cynicatt
The OP assumes you're talking to someone with a degree of sense and respect.
SequoiaHughes
Do not engage with narcissists/egomaniacs/sociopaths; they don’t care about facts OR your opinion & will always make everything about them
cynicatt
RIP having a pleasant discussion with like 70-80% of my generation.
Isaacprksh
"No you"
enferno8
No u*
Arkmer
Needs more capitals.
boredomboredomboredom
Ney thee
Askingforafriend37
No w
Gamergrl09
nou
BothBothBothBothisgood
UNO
SirReginaldDukeOfChutney
Me, an intellectual and avid CSGO troll: "reported".
TheGhostofLionelHutz
"FAKE NEWS"
purgethefilthyheretics
PolarMoose
Your mom gay
donchamagoso
I just kick them in the nuts
oughtaBfamous
I've said it before and I'll say it again. A great many of my arguments were won by repeating my point loudly while waving my arms
oughtaBfamous
But sometimes I get told "you can't just yell and wave your arms to win an argument"
oughtaBfamous
To which I reply "you can't expect to win an argument with the stupid words coming out of your stupid face hole"
Malloon
Yo, Trump voters of imgur, would this work on you?
Attaroo
He's a great American that tells only the truth all the time if he didn't its because you didn't understand him and MAGA you fucking libtard
Malloon
At least one person appreciates the joke...
Attaroo
Well, it's more a greek tragedy on the concept of hubris and stupidity, but yeah, I feel you man :D
Attaroo
And quite frankly, about a quarter of the people here ARE the joke.
ILikeNewEnglandBeer
A swift kick in the ol' pooper can do wonders
koncelies
Try using this with flat earthers and global warming ppl it does not work
mrslaxer
Step 1 have them explained there side. They can't
InconspicuousLampshade
It's very hard to find common ground with flat earthers.
Attaroo
If you are talking about global warming denialists, I agree. If not, I've got 3 hurricaines parked off the US coast that would like a word.
DrLeStank
“Ahem. Your momma.”
FilthyLord
A sociopaths guide to winning at life
DrunkenN00dle350
“All these people agree with me” precludes the possibility that the majority is fucking stupid. The wise man knows that they know nothing.
Attaroo
It's not talking about the logical argument, whereas argumentum ad populem is a known fallacy. It's the emotional element.
Attaroo
But yeah, just because people agree doesn't mean they aren't being stupid.
77monkeys
Felt like I was reading “The Game” again by Neil Strauss
pizzapartyhard
Locate a twospot, neg, reengage, and number close.
77monkeys
That’s pretty good
kitaroknine
I just insult them and end the conversation. A win in my book.
CastIronFriedPan
Best kind of win. 5/7.
MrHashSlingingSlasher
Make sure you A talk last and B talk loudest
aguacatedeldiablo
... Donald?
Dracontide
Who are you, my wife?
IDontActuallyHaveUsername
"I have an opinion." "Yeah? So did Hitler!" Works every time
TheGhostofLionelHutz
Has proven effective for the President of the United States. Should be good enough for the rest of us.
Aceh0le87
shut up nerd
SiegwardOfCatarina
Don't forget to compare them to Hitler.
TardyOpossum
Did this to my old boss. Didn't feel like a win at the time lol
iynque
This is dumb. You’re dumb. You know who else was dumb? Hitler. Which I’ll have you know autocorrected to “Butler.” You’re a double murderer.
Xyzair
"No You"
IUpvoteEveryNicholasCageGIF
Suspect them to be supporters of communism.
kirmes
only works in murica though
BlueKraitSnake
But still like Hitler
IUsedToHaveUsernameOnce
Any website comment section quality / 10
Apostraphie1217
Sqwuid
Attack their grammar and call them dumb for not even being capable of spelling
muffledicecreams
Lol!
ciiral
imdissapointed
Must be liberal
PrivateNoodles
Your a butthead
tReasonoustRump
Ur a butthead
PrivateNoodles
Well you know what I’m gonna say it... you’re a butthead 2.0
tReasonoustRump
I know you are but what am I ?
PrivateNoodles
A BIGGER BUTTHEAD! *runs off and cries*
Mommasaurusrex
No you.
annoyingjoe
these techniques work really well during internet arguments.
pantzequalpooped
No u
QtheConqueror
How to win every argument, post it on imgur
aykyle
They do, somewhat. Obviously you just have to take some of their points, agree with them and just say "we just have different point of views
aykyle
Most of the time, they won't continue insulting you.
fatjangles1337
FACT
DrLeStank
Give me 100 sources to support your opinion even though I have 0 to support mine.
hobobobo
Bullied and banned from a chat because I couldn't come up with a source for my own opinion. Name changed to "dum jew". #Internet.
HPLovesaurce
JNied
Why do you believe that?
TheHorseShesElbowDeepIn
I can relate to this, and here's why.
Saiphel
I disagree. Fuck you.
Tattles
snorted
AwwGeeRick
Must have held their hands wrong
eatmyassevilspirit
Why do you believe that?
WhoStoleMySweetroll
Well, my opinion is changed.
z3lfmoord
Fuck you too
iHveNoCleverName
And also with you
z3lfmoord
Fuck you tol
KAPTAINKAMIKAZEE
no it isn't
NotABench
However, I disagree
Nyellofwends
i agreen't
Tacocatisapalindrom
If you're going in to "win the argument" you're going about it the wrong way. And if you're wrong you shouldn't win
RandyKnapp
"Start with the reductio ad absurdum!"
ElbowDeepInAPoliceState
Fallacy fallacy.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
Yeah.. creating the "appearance" of trying to find the truth? Why not just find the truth, actually.
flakeOfDoom
It depends on the context, I think. If you've looked at an issue in depth and come to a conclusion, you're not *really* going to be [c]
flakeOfDoom
finding the truth in a conversation with someone whose arguments you've seen a dozen times already. Your goal there is to *spread* the [c]
flakeOfDoom
truth, rather than finding it. Sort of like how a teacher may structure a lesson to lead the class to a conclusion - obviously things [c]
flakeOfDoom
aren't being discovered in 5th grade math, but it still helps people understand the knowledge and feel good about doing so.
mksu
Because ideological purity is an idiot's game. The pragmatic path is understanding humans care little about truth and focusing on persuasion
Nefasi
I find very few people really want to find "truth." Its upsetting to have your world view to be found wanting. Win, reaffirm, move on. Bliss
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
Because that doesn’t always work unless all parties involved are on the same page. They often aren’t.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
...? then what benefit is feigning it giving you?
DudePlayinADudeDisguisedAsAnotherDude
People like to be “right” or at least “win”.
IamMelonLordeYaYaYa
neither of your responses seem to be coherent answers
jmulderr
If you set out to 'win an argument', you already lost. Namely lost the opportunity to have a useful discussion.
flakeOfDoom
I disagree. You can engage someone on an issue you know they won't change your opinion on, while still getting something good out of it.
jmulderr
What are you getting out of it? If you're unwilling to change and grow and neither are they, you're just flapping gums at one another, no?
flakeOfDoom
I'd say there are some issues that changing one's opinion on isn't "growing", myself. More specifically, you can learn about what moves [c]
flakeOfDoom
other people to have their views, as well as how to communicate about it and/or convince people to change their mind.
flakeOfDoom
It's probably relevant: the sort of issues I'm thinking of, where I'd say I'm absolutely going into a discussion with a view I won't be [c]
KingBeardy
This only allows you to "win" an argument if you're right in the first place. And only assholes try to win arguments.
kirmes
llamalibrarian
some arguments need to be won. My parents have finally stopped banging the "GAY IS SIN" drum and it took years of arguments. Now they...
BaRockmanObama
... beat you with jumper cables.
llamalibrarian
... welcome me and my girlfriend and step up to defend us against the rest of the family who still bang that drum
Matteocray
What all this talk about banging?
llamalibrarian
Tl;dr family bangs loudly and I argue with them about it
KingBeardy
The win condition is a consensus. When all parties agree, the argument is won.
llamalibrarian
True- maybe I should have said "some arguments need to be had" so that a consensus can be reached
KingBeardy
It's hard to know what we all mean with 140 characters, and no verbal inflections. Of course, that is by design to encourage flame wars.