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I laughed at him and refused to sign it. He lost his shit and I recorded the whole thing with my phone. His boss found that very interesting
Apr 28, 2025 8:14 PM
norcebyl
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I laughed at him and refused to sign it. He lost his shit and I recorded the whole thing with my phone. His boss found that very interesting
resolved
Did you tell the boss no?
Awmph
some folks' authority is more brittle than other's
TimmyTimm
EvilMom
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LespritDeLescalier22
Always remember: hr is there to protect the company. Not you.
DukeDarkwood
Absolutely true. But they will side with you over management if it is safer for the company to do so. (The primary factor usually being how loud a whistle you can blow if they dismiss your claim.)
Of course, that leaves you in the position of working for a boss who will never forget you successfully defied them.
SilentTox
This is also a reminder you can just not sign write ups and ignore stupid shit tossed your way
ChaoticEnigma1121
You did the right thing. Respect.
Fanner50
I taught people at a POS company (that was trying to get into a regulated industry) that they weren’t allowed to perform work that they weren’t trained on, and the training must be documented.
Oh, certain bosses hated that.
mouseasw
Are you saying the company was a piece of shit, or they did stuff with points of sale? Or were themselves a point of sale ie a brick and mortar store?
Fanner50
Company was total Piece of shit. I think we were expected to be happy if the CEO got a huge bonus, while we barely got raises.
Nnoodles
EZ PZ. Don't train other people
ReaperCDN
This is why Canada is in a trade crisis right now. The people who refuse to train other people are setting us all up for failure. We need to provide an incentive bonus to people instructing others so that people both want to do it, and don't have, "You don't pay me to train others," as an answer to use <-- because that's a legitimate answer.
Nnoodles
I've been in the position of "being too good at my job to promote," and "irreplaceable" only to topped out in a salary that the company deemed too much and then training a replacement that obviously wont be as good, but good enough.... IF an apprenticeship program had incentives to journeymen, perhaps it might fix the problem, but I think the issue is an aging workforce AND disinterested youth.
BeingABotIsRad
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Roqinn
There's a new guy where I work that cleans the floors. He came over to my building to scrub all the floors and he's half way through when the shift supervisor calls him back to the main building. I told the guy that he has orders that are from the supervisors boss and those take precedence. The guy tells me that he can't say no to the supervisor. I said yes you can. You just tell him that you have orders from HIS boss that come first and you will over when that's done.
He wouldn't do that.
Sasurau
Yet one among the many reasons I'm glad I'm Union
JerBearington
Favorited to hear the follow up!
2dollars15cents
My boss is an awesome guy, but can get a little intense sometimes. We all teach the newbies how to handle him. Things like, don’t take it personally, own up to your mistakes, and communicate important things. I think he actually appreciates that we do that. He really is a good guy. Just…moody sometimes.
normalizebeingalone
I train staff, my boss and supervisor 100% agreed that we lost a great employee due to bad boundaries and overwork outside of their assigned responsibilities. I told her before she quit she needed to start saying No to things she is asked for. Those same supervisors and boss said it would be Insubordination if she said no... she quit that year. Im like what.
DukeSliscus
There is absolutely an appropriate way to say no to the boss and it's important for new employees to learn that.
freakdiablo
Some people shouldn't be in management. With my last boss, there were times the whole team would collectively say, "no, that's stupid". Instead of doing the logical thing and asking, "what should we do then?" He'd stomp his foot, say just do it, and storm off.
RockKickass
What did he say no to? Was it part of his job?
StunttheRunt
I just got dirt looks this morning in the brief Monday morning meeting for reminding the boss by law we get 3 consecutive hours to go vote (Canada) as we're off work at 5 and only have 2.5 hours we get off at 430 today. Manager says "boss thinks that's enough time" I just shrugged and said 3 hours is the law but if don't want to give us the time ok. Think they knew breaking the law for half and hour might bite their asses a bit more than they'd like. So they relented.
bobGrimer
This is why Australia has elections on a weekend so more people can attend. It's also super easy to get a mail in vote beforehand.
StarscreamAndHutch
Thank you for voting!
RevengeIsIceCream
Who says they voted? ;)
StunttheRunt
I didn't say it but I did go do it.
TheWarHymn
We need to deport managers like that to the States.
Catheren
Deport them into the sun, or to the Marianas Trench.
CaptainRedbeardButOnlyTheBeard
Please no, we are having a hard enough time down here, thank you. Also, congrats on flushing your PP down the toilet.
ThomasThundersword
ewww no. you have lots of uninhabited islands. send them there. and if you know of any good US islands we can send ours too, i’m open to suggestions! Managers like that make my fucking skin crawl, and were a large part of what made my time as a manager suck, dealing with parasites like that.
StunttheRunt
Feed the polar bears!
imakeeper
We'll probably fucking elect them. Buncha smoothbrains down here.
RUFingKiddingMe
Your boss is weak.
evilgendo
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arumunus
I'm having "May be a polyp, may be cancer" uterus issues. I get a lot of cramps, among other symptoms. I am TRYING to work with my management but they're some of the biggest tools in this tool store.
Anyways I used sick time and called out. SM was pissed cause he had to work. Started demanding I tell him why I called out. Followed me through the whole floor- in front of customers. He would. Not. Stop.
So I spun around and super loudly told him I was bleeding. And cramping. Asked him if that->
arumunus
Made him happy to hear. If that was excuse enough.
His response was "You're yelling." (I'm told I'm aggressive and am on a final for composure..All the older women here are.)
So I told him to keep harassing me. I'll be calling HR and escalating to State if need be.
I called HR. He tried to beat me out and make me seem irrational. One convo with HR though and he got written up.
arumunus
He told under zero circumstances should he ever pry into medical.
So now hes pulling a "I care, my door is always open, let me know what's wrong" bullshit and I just don't even respond to that shit.
God I cant stand him.
Qualtagh
I hope you get a better boss and your uterus stops being an asshole. Tons of bleeding and pain for me turned out to be fibroids, FYI.
arumunus
Thanks friend. I'm sorry you had to go through that yourself.
Got an appointment in a little over a week that might hopefully let me know what it is.
spitfires2000
"What part of 'No" did you not understand?"
Jagernott
I had a boss try to write me up for giving another employee my copy of the union agreement. He pointed to the part that says only the Shop Steward can advise employees on union matters.
The irony that he didn't have said Steward present for this disciplinary action was not lost on me or the union.
Urgalicity
Federal Code Title 7 of the Civil Rights Act, retaliation for reasonable action to defray a Hostile Work Environment.
Urgalicity
https://www.eeoc.gov/retaliation
StormBurnX
I really wish I could afford to do this, but alas. picking between an absusive work environment and homelessness/starvation is really popular these days
DrakeMaillardReaction
ImgurDemonym
No matter who is toxic here, making enemies of your boss is a good way to lose a job. If you're having these types of difficulties you should start looking for a new one.
3rdoption
That's just a plain gamble that the boss's boss will side with you. Hope it pays off.
ReaperCDN
They need you to do the work. When you're in a position that can say no, it's because you aren't a disposable body. They need to actually listen to your expertise.
impotence
Everyone is replaceable. Never believe you're not.
ReaperCDN
When you're talking about a business, it comes down to cost. If you're worth millions in training and experience, that's a sunk cost. You're weighing the no against the feelings of a manager who thinks they can dispose of an asset at will. That's not a hard equation to balance. That's where the experience comes in. We're not talking flipping burgers or pumping gas where you can go ahead and get your replacement immediately. If you're in a position to say no to your boss, usually it's /1
ReaperCDN
the kind of position where the no is not just warranted, but backed up extensively. Hence the meme above, "Taught a new employee *HOW* to say no to the boss." Because no, not everybody is replaceable, and places very quickly find out just how irreplaceable some people are after making the egotistical mistake of firing the guy who knows everything and realizing, "Oh shit, this place literally runs on their expertise." 2/2
Eldis
You're right, but middle management is often incredibly incompetent, and the top of the line (CEO and ownership) often slaughter companies with mass firings to boost their "net worth" for selling purposes.
MagmaCarta
Oh I hope there's a Part 2
Bradbarian
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toolazytoname
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Ffudmethen
If in the US, probably deportation for his ms13 ties
LaffertyDanie1
Job hunting
Roguishpotato
Ryebread91
DaddyDune
I hope there is a video
NeverDownvoteMelBrooks
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Autittuderp
We are employees, not chattle. We have autonomy and if we ever are uncomfortable or it's not apart of our job description...No is a full sentence.
Eldis
The corporate, the current American leadership, and every single one of the 0,1% most richest people view you as chattel, and currently, the American laws don't matter since jurisdiction is based mostly on judges of which a sizable portion will happily side with the corporate side.
It's not nearly as bleak in Europe. It's even worse in China or India. For the vast majority of world, unfortunately, most people are viewed as slaves.
Autittuderp
I'm glad I have the emotional intelligence to understand what others think of me...is none of my business. It's their fantasy or dillusion. Everyone needs to get on board.
ElbowDeepInAGoblin
*delusion ...And yeah, they can be made to get on board but people have to bother exercising their own agency and power and they seem to be proper shit at that. Seeing a lot of 'Actually, my job description says they can steal my time.', well, why the fuck did you agree to that...
Autittuderp
Thanks for that correction, I didn't bother with the red line lol
We are a bunch of folks running around being led by our subconscious and conditioning. Needing some self awareness work out there.