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May 12, 2026 11:10 PM
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Slewth87
Ok, no they don't. The Epstein files contain mountains of credible accusations and discussions of crimes. It's pretty clear from them that crimes were committed and those crimes should be investigated to procure a prosecutable amount of evidence, but the files themseleves do not contain any direct open & shut documentation or videos of crimes. The issue with the handling of the files is that the crimes indicated in them were not investigated, not that hard evidence in them was ignored.
PirateArrrgument
Not just Trump. The entire billionaire cabal. Trump by himself can't occupy two and a half million pages of additional content. The unredacted files contain not just criminal acts, but the organization of the child trafficking ring and likely the entire system of tax evasion that the billionaire club uses to this very day.
Bossco20
He did more than just that. He's also a murderer and probably a baby eater
75dmcnamara10
Well that and the fact most Dems are doing nothing and are letting repugs redistrict like crazy which will make things even worse ugggh
Elliotblet
There never will be any arrests.
Uginscion
They're waiting for him to die and he doesn't have the common fuckin courtesy.
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
I’m thinking it’s much much worse than that. More likely they show that trump was epsteins protege.
Circe007
Those files stay sealed to blackmail horrible rich and powerful people from America and Europe, and keep the war against Iran ongoing.
509tigerfish
yourdesiredusernameisnotavailable
Not only that the children are recognizable and some are famous missing children.
ShadeMeadowsArt
100%
B166ERMaximus
Ted Lieu said: "Donald Trump is in the Epstein files thousands and thousands of times. In those files, there's highly disturbing allegations of Donald Trump raping children, of Donald Trump threatening to kill children. So I encourage the press to go look at these allegations."
Here is a video of him saying it: https://www.c-span.org/clip/news-conference/rep-ted-lieu-claims-president-trump-is-accused-of-raping-children-in-the-epstein-files/5191713
Trump should rot in hell, but facts matter.
bbrtki
And everyone knows it.
And yet nothing is being done.
HelpTheWretched
It's a quote. Who said it, and when, and what power do they have to do anything about it?
psmith00
forget the Epstein files for the moment. Concentrate on his current crimes in office to get him out of the Oval Office AND THEN when he cannot use it to protect himself and his rich friends, then you can get the non-redacted version of the files and start prosecuting the criminals for their crimes. he won't likely have survived his being forced out of office but you can still provide all the proof that he was what we all know he was.
KamikazeGerbil101
PerthAussieMike
And if he didn't, releasing the entire files would prove it. But...... ha ha ha.... guess what, he doesn't want any truth to come out, of course.
thornedrose27
He sues for everything. He hasn't sued for this.
PerthAussieMike
Yeah, because of all the evidence that would have to be entered.
TiredBanana
Maybe If Americans make more tiktoks about it something will magically happen.
Circe007
Like keeping people aware. Also, maybe thats another reason for they want to ban tiktok
TiredBanana
Keeping people aware means fuck all if nothing ever gets done about anything. Easy clout though.
Circe007
Only thing I can say is my country changed, and no matter how many lies big media throws now of, most people here isnt buying it. It may be not fast, but I think its better than a violent revolution.
TiredBanana
Not when that gives tech douches and other oligarchs plenty of time to use your country's political and military influence to ruin the world and spread fascist rhetoric. The influence maga has already had globally is going to echo for years and even decades. The damage is already vast and gets worse by the day. Maga is a playbook right wing parties all over are studying as we speak and the effects can already be seen. But take your time. I'm sure fascism will just go away on it's own this time
duktayp
He's sued people for many things but never for anyone calling him a pedophile... Because discovery
BurningVeryImportantThings
What is in those unreleased files goes far beyond t**** and is so bad it will destabilize the current ruling class. Fucking. Bring. It. On!
jimicus
It’s the ruling class who get to decide what gets released.
sagiterios
I suspect that if it was just about trump, there would be more governmental push to throw him under the bus, let us lambs have our sacrifice and ride out the scandal. But its not just trump. If trump goes down that same discovery is going to shine on a lot of other terribly powerful people who will go down with him. and THAT is why were not gonna get the files.
loma45
If the files actually ~showed~ him raping kids then the Democrats would have found ways to release that when Biden was in office. Accidental leaks, etc.
If you're waiting for a smoking gun in the files I think you're in for disappointment.
I'm the files have plenty of allegations/connections/emails/etc for him, but have serious doubts there are videos or photos showing Trump actively abusing a child.
B166ERMaximus
I see the quote marks but no source... who said it @OP?
Niagaran
Welcome to Facebook!
thornedrose27
Ted Lieu, US Representative.
B166ERMaximus
Don't lie to me @OP. Ted Lieu said: "Donald Trump is in the Epstein files thousands and thousands of times. In those files, there's highly disturbing allegations of Donald Trump raping children, of Donald Trump threatening to kill children. So I encourage the press to go look at these allegations."
B166ERMaximus
@OP Here's a video of him saying it: https://www.c-span.org/clip/news-conference/rep-ted-lieu-claims-president-trump-is-accused-of-raping-children-in-the-epstein-files/5191713
Don't get me wrong, Trump should rot in hell... but facts matter.
hopeforhumanity
What I don't get is why didn't they destroy them? I'm glad they didn't cause he needs to go to jail and his family stripped of their wealth. But why didn't they destroy them. They'd get away with it.
blazemaguire
Leverage... Come on. You really think a man like this gets to 'run' your country without a group of rich, self serving assholes pulling the strings behind the scenes. You keep them so you can threaten and thus control policy. From what I gather about Epstien, it's the whole reason he kept everything on file anyway. As leverage over the rich and influencial which can then be used to influence policy and legislation.. Why do you think he ended up dead by 'suicide' when he finally got caught.
dedpan
Wasn't this quote made up by some dipshit on Twitter and falsely attributed to Ted Lieu?
thornedrose27
Actually, it was the DOJ that claimed he did NOT make these claims. In February 2026, during a Congressional hearing, he did make claims about what he saw in the files. I don't know about you. But I don't trust the current DOJ.
smashole
If there sealed...how did we find out thats what it shows?
JusticePhrall
We've known for a long time. This press release from November 4, 2025 should help.
https://democrats-judiciary.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/ranking-member-raskin-releases-new-information-on-trump-doj-s-decision-to-kill-investigation-into-epstein-s-co-conspirators-and-demands-answers-from-ag-bondi
JusticePhrall
By Jan 2025, nearly 50 abuse survivors had shared with the DOJ and FBI the specific identities of at least 20 Epstein co-conspirators, how the operation was structured and financed, and which individuals facilitated their crimes.
Soon after taking office, Trump killed the investigation and had all the files transferred to DOJ headquarters. Pam Bondi then ordered more than 1,000 FBI agents and DOJ employees to find, redact, and log every instance of where Trump's name appeared in the files.
Circe007
A small part was relased, thats how we know f.e. a prince from England was involved.
GrandmasterSpank
They are not sealed but redacted. But from the info we got, you can extrapolate who is who in the files. Ok ok ok it's not 100% accurate, and it's not 100% certain but the solution to that is to just release the Epstein files unredacted and then we can all see "Trump' isnt in the files it's "Bob".
REOJackwagon
-There was an earlier release that was less redacted (its posted and searchable online, I don't have the link
-Witnesses have spoken out about their testimony
-Investigators have talked about what's in the files (then they were later in trumps cabinet and said theres nothing)
MrSqaureCan
Congress has seen the unredacted files
Grimlinnan
dogmatix
MAGA literallly do not care.
WAH666
Good chunk of them are probably raping kids too, so why would they be mad to Trump.
Imadethisaccounttopost
I mean, the released files pretty much said that in detail.
GrandmasterSpank
Alledgedly, he also made sure those kids would be killed to get rid of the witnesses.
Toodamagedtocare
Dig up his golf courses for the bodies buried on them.
AngelBolen91
No, he doesnt get an allegedly. He fucked kids. He wants to say otherwise, release the full fucking files.
georgejimmydoodle
Raped. He raped kids.
bigtitsbutnotthesexykind
I think the "allegedly" refered to the killing of the victims, not the rape part!? But yes, he's a kiddy diddler, and he should walk the path of the french revolution aristocrats
jimicus
Well, I’ll say it without the “allegedly”.
Trump raped and killed kids. He may or may not have killed them with his own hands, but he 100% took action to kill them.
bigtitsbutnotthesexykind
I hope you are wrong. But when it comes to Trump, I fear you are right.
Imadethisaccounttopost
No allegedly about it, he had them killed, and any offspring produced as well.
They even said they tossed the bodies in Lake Michigan.
jimicus
Yeah, that man is a little bit too comfortable with violence for someone who hasn’t used it.
DocFunkenstein
And eating children.
Why does everyone ignore that part? It's kind of way worse.
Hotsauceman
I don’t remember that part. I remember the killing of a baby.
TheElliotPage
when Trump was lying about Ohioans eating dogs, he was deflecting
DrBlackJack
I think people are still having a hard time believing anyone could go that far, even with evidence to the contrary. They'd have to realise actual video before people would buy it.
Muffyns
they would just claim its ai
BeaverOnFire
What's wrong with a little cannibalism between friends? /S https://media2.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1ZzJyeWp5dXZoODYwdXZiZXd2eXo3dWNjNXU2czdqemN2N3BhOGN4MSZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/cwWZawBRSjcCQ/200w.webp
MissMeaniePie
When the biggest domino topples, so too shall the rest
onemightyandstrong
This is likely an example of made up bullshit being carefully placed next to the truth, to confuse people.
ShadeMeadowsArt
Fair but... make up more reason to hate 'em?
wowfan85
Epstein frequently refers to running out of beef jerky, eating beef jerky, and needing to make more in his emails and the way it's phrased is very suggestive of it not being made of real beef.
judyblue
But that doesn't necessarily mean it's literally about eating. They also used other food terms as code words ("cheese pizza" seems to usually mean CP).
wowfan85
There was also a victim who was later killed that claimed they were killing and eating the girls. Unfortunately I didn't save the link.
judyblue
I know what you're referring to. I'm just saying the use of "beef jerky" doesn't verify that victim's claim.