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Just a little follow-up before we get started.
Part 1: http://imgur.com/gallery/bQWq1
[Thanks for spotting my spelling error! *commits seppuku*]
First off, a massive thank you to everyone who read, upvoted, commented and sent me messages about my original post. It was very gratifying to know I was not the only one who felt irked by the pop-psych post and I now feel truly vindicated.
However, I need to address the point at which I ended the last post concerning the PCL-R. As you may know, I wrote the original post to discredit an infographic and I hoped AT BEST the 19 people who left markers on my comment http://i.imgur.com/9usYO8a.png?2 would see it. If I had known it would receive the amount of views it did AND reach the front page, I would NOT have ended on such a vague note.
This is because I logged in this morning and found several messages stating that people had read the PCL-R and thought they might be a psychopath. Many people in the comments were saying the exact same thing! I think "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing" is the apt phrase. This post will continue to discuss the PCL-R (and critique!) and explain why just recognising that you share similarities with its items does NOT automatically make you a psychopath. Remember, do NOT self-diagnose, leave it to a professional.
Disclaimer: I studied Psychology and Criminal Behaviour BSc. and I now study Abnormal and Clinical Psychology MSc. - I am still a student and almost by definition I am neither infallible, nor am I an expert in this field. As always, If you do find something questionable, let me know and I'll amend it if you've good evidence. I am not capable of diagnosing you or anyone else, so please don't ask. - All your other messages were lovely :) My apologies if I haven't got around to answering everyone's comments/messages yet, there were a LOT!
Right, part 2!
In this post I shall discuss:
1.) Scoring the PCL-R
2.) Discussion and Criticism of the PCL-R
3.) Researchers' Definitions of Psychopathy
4.) Female Psychopaths
5.) Biology of Psychopathy aka Nature vs. Nurture
6.) Treating a Psychopath
7.) References
1.) Scoring the PCL-R
As you can see above, this image is a version of the PCL-R. As you can also see, it has instructions at the top which state:
"For each of the 20 characteristics, give a score of 0 if it does not apply, 1 if it applies partially and 2 if it is a perfect match."
Now you see why it was very premature for people to start diagnosing themselves (generally not a smart thing to do anyway) based off simply the items I gave in the last post.
There is a maximum score of 40, assuming an individual scores 2 on all 20 items. In the UK, a score of 25 is the minimum for a diagnosis of psychopathy. In America, the minimum score is 30... That is not the only peculiarity the PCL-R contains.
Now, of course you're likely going to want to take the 'test' and I can't stop you. Some of you probably Googled it yesterday in fact. So, if you do take it, bear in mind it does NOT automatically mean you have high levels of psychopathy unless you have also been reviewed by a clinician (preferably more than one). You also have to be 18 for an official diagnosis and the behaviours have to be enduring, like personality is (although even this is debatable).
The Social Desirability Bias pretty much prevents honest answers from a single test anyway, not to mention that some of you (and you know secretly who you are) will actually WANT to be thought of as psychopaths and will therefore be very generous in your scoring.
Oh, and I scored... 2/40, go me. Although self-judgement makes this highly biased...
2.) Discussion and Criticism of the PCL-R
In psychology, tests which assess the mental state, behaviour, personality or learning ability are referred to as "psychometric tests". A lot of companies use psychometric tests when evaluating candidates for job interviews... sometimes unwisely.
All psychometric tests should be assessed on their validity and reliability. They should also be declared fit for purpose. A diagnosis which is purely based off a psychometric test is probably not well-founded. Context is very important for the diagnosis of psychological conditions, especially conditions which fluctuate an individual's behaviour or mood. A person gripped by depression will likely answer the questions differently than when they are in a manic state, for example. (Nice succinct article on reliablity and validity removed because I think it triggered imgur to remove the text from my post!)
The PCL-R is host to a number of criticisms. For example, just look at how vague and varied some of the items are. Secondly, as some of you already spotted, many of these are symptoms are shared with several other mental health disorders. Finally, even the personality of the professional marking the score has been shown to have an impact (Miller et al, 2011). Finally, Dr. Hare also recieves royalties for the official use of his PCL-R, which might lead some to suspect he has an ulterior motive for keeping it afloat and in popular use.
3.) Researchers' Definitions of Psychopathy
As mentioned in part 1, neither the ICD, nor the DSM classify psychopathy as a standalone condition. So how do we know it exists? Well, I was also careful to make sure that I specified that those two collections don't contain everything and they are still being routinely updated. Unsurprisingly, some psychologists do feel that psychopathy is distinct enough to warrant its own placement and its own definition. Here are two such definitions:
“Personality disorder defined by a constellation of affective and behavioural symptoms. The symptoms of psychopathy include shallow affect; lack of empathy, guilt and remorse; irresponsibility; impulsivity; and poor planning and decision-making.” (Kiehl & Hoffman, 2010).
“Personality disorder characterized by enduring antisocial behaviour, diminished empathy and remorse, and disinhibited or bold behaviour. It may also be defined as a continuous aspect of personality.” (Skeem, Polaschek, Patrick, & Lilienfeld, 2011).
Although they both appear to have far fewer criteria than the symptoms of APD/DPD, they both state that they are personality disorders, albeit at the extreme end.
I've only mentioned a small amount of research in these posts. However, given the wealth of research on the subject, I would tentatively state that "psychopaths exist"... but that they are HEAVILY misrepresented and often misdiagnosed. Generally speaking, they are neither the monsters that the media portray, nor the highly successful intellectuals... of course, there will be exceptions.
4.) Female Psychopaths
Often overlooked, there is evidence which sates that female psychopaths differ from their male counterparts in two key areas of their behaviour. Whereas men tend to blackmail, women with high levels of psychopathy are more likely to flirt and seduce. Whereas men are more likely to resort violence, women prefer character assassination (Forouzan & Cooke, 2005).
Also, it might come as a surprise, but there are far fewer women with high levels of psychopathy than men. Those that do posses measurable levels score far lower on the PCL-R (Jackson, Rogers, Neumann, Lambert (2002).
5.) Biology of Psychopathy aka Nature vs. Nurture
One of the fundamental arguments in psychology itself is known as Nature vs. Nurture. Namely, were we born this way, was it how we were raised, or was it a combination of both which now determine our personality and behaviour? Some people are actually against the idea of a biological or genetic cause for the condition since they fear it gives an individual a 'license' to display antisocial behaviour, falling back on the excuse of "I can't help it, it's genetic".
One of the only points the infographic was correct on was a study it mentioned which showed that 60% of twins raised apart still develop the callous and unemotional traits that define psychopathy even though they no longer shared a common environment (Frick & White, 2008)
There is also evidence that specific genes may influence the likelihood of an individual being prone to behaviours we would call psychopathic (Glenn, 2011). However, the researcher does state:
"(...) in the context of additional genetic and environmental factors."
One of my favourite interviews is with an American neuroscientist, professor James Fallon. He ACCIDENTALLY discovered he has the genetic markers and abnormalities in areas of the brain associated with psychopathy. It is a very interesting listen http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-25116826 and is just under 5 minutes.
So to conclude, there is some evidence for a genetic predisposition towards psychopathy. However, if you listened to the radio feature, you will also know that the environment in which you are raised plays a very important role.
6.) Treating a Psychopath
So an offender has a high level of psychopathy and has committed a serious crime... can they be successfully rehabilitated? Well, the short answer is yes. The treatment of individuals with high levels of psychopathy is actually a rather divisive issue among the psychology community. There are studies that say it's a lost cause and then there's the ones I'll describe. The problem is that a lot of the studies which brand psychopaths a 'lost cause' are using a standard therapy, NOT one specifically designed for their patients.
Treatment is associated with relatively slower and lower rates of serious recidivism in a study which did a follow-up 2 years after release (Caldwell et al., 2006). Psychopathic patients appear as likely as non-psychopathic patients to benefit from adequate doses of treatment, in terms of violence reduction (Skeem, Monahan, Mulvey, 2002). Okay, perhaps they won't be model citizens, but then plenty of people who are released from prison go on to re-offend and are unlikely to even have measurable levels of psychopathy.
Treating psychopaths isn't easy though, due to their very manipulative and superficial nature they often do very well at parole hearings...
7.) References
I may have missed a few. If I have and you'd like them, just let me know which ones they are and I'll see what I can do!
Caldwell, M., Skeem, J., Salekin, R., & Van Rybroek, G. (2006). Treatment Response of Adolescent Offenders With Psychopathy Features A 2-Year Follow-Up. Criminal Justice and Behavior, 33(5), 571-596.
Glenn, A. L. (2011). The other allele: Exploring the long allele of the serotonin transporter gene as a potential risk factor for psychopathy: A review of the parallels in findings. Neuroscience & Biobehavioral Reviews, 35(3), 612-620.
Forouzan, E., & Cooke, D. J. (2005). Figuring out la femme fatale: Conceptual and assessment issues concerning psychopathy in females. Behavioral sciences & the law, 23(6), 765-778.
Frick, P. J. and White, S. F. (2008), Research Review: The importance of callous-unemotional traits for developmental models of aggressive and antisocial behavior. Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry, 49: 359–375.
Jackson, R. L., Rogers, R., Neumann, C. S., & Lambert, P. L. (2002). Psychopathy in female offenders an investigation of its underlying dimensions. Criminal Justice and Behavior, 29(6), 692-704.
Kiehl, K. A., & Hoffman, M. B. (2010). Criminal Psychopath: History, Neuroscience, Treatment, and Economics, The. Jurimetrics, 51, 355-397.
Miller, A. K.; Rufino, K. A.; Boccaccini, M. T.; Jackson, R. L.; Murrie, D. C. (2011). "On Individual Differences in Person Perception: Raters' Personality Traits Relate to Their Psychopathy Checklist-Revised Scoring Tendencies".
Skeem, J. L., Monahan, J., & Mulvey, E. P. (2002). Psychopathy, treatment involvement, and subsequent violence among civil psychiatric patients. Law and human behavior, 26(6), 577.
Seal pup tax!
Well, that's it, that's all I've got.
Now, it kind of goes without saying, but I have barely scratched the surface of an area in which there are hundreds of studies and meta-analyses. I've skimmed on certain areas and maybe provided too much detail in others. Please bear in mind that I'm trying to be concise where I can, after all, this is imgur.
This started to discredit one silly infographic... and I think I achieved that. Remember, be sceptical of what you read on here. Don't be convinced by slick infographics whether it's weight-lifting, or psychology. Always consider the source and check the references! And please please please don't self-diagnose.
If you have questions, feel free to contact me or leave a comment and I'll get back to you when I can.
OnlyBurtonGusterGifs
I'm gonna be honest, I was hoping for a higher score than I got
Gastroboi
*commits seppuku* are you ok @OP?
Metacognitivemystery
No, I have brought dishonour to my post through my failure to spell-check :')
issybird
Speakin on point #4, maybe it's not that women are less likely to be psychopaths, but that they are diagnosed less? I know it's the same (1)
issybird
With Autism (2)
Thepowerof14
Lilely :P
Metacognitivemystery
Haaaa, did not spot this until just now.
emguhraeb
PM me please.
LusterBeastLuke
Again @OP, great post. I was looking forward to part two - and now that it's here I can safely say it's just as great as Part 1.
Metacognitivemystery
Ah, thank you very much, I'm glad you enjoyed it! :)
LenfantSauvage86
TL;DR. TIL I AM NOT A PSYCHOPATH.
LokiTheChef
But wouldn't a psychopath say that?
nogoat23
I took the test and killed three people. What does that mean?
alexmm1015
It's "highly unlilely" that you are one.
slicingthroughthewindlikeawind
I started reading this post saw "highly unlilely", scrolled down, wasn't disappointed
nunya967
anyone else get nervous scoring that test as they went along?
tbnd
I'm always annoyed when people declare their recent ex as being a psychopath. In the vast majority of cases, no they were not.
TotallyNotRedVox
I've had extreme problems with my "sibling", this test confirms what I initially thought. Thank you so much for sharing this knowledge +1
Xerxes8
Thanks for this post! The word psychopath has been "mystified" by movies, news and TV shows, it's really interesting.
Metacognitivemystery
Yes, anything I can do to demystify it. Glad you enjoyed!
duinoboy
Well written and you linked your sources 1+
jesuspharts
This also describes most teenagers...
Metacognitivemystery
Precisely why a diagnosis for this (and many other mental disorders) is reserved for the age of 18+ !
crumbhustler
Lotta text to read so I'll just upvote on the seal pup tax alone.
therebeldoodlebug749
As a graduate student in clinical mental Health, I appreciate this. And your references.
Metacognitivemystery
I'm glad you liked it. Haha, always fun negotiating the pay-walls...
OnceYouPopYouCantStop
Stopped reading after lilely. Was it any good?
Metacognitivemystery
Depends on your interest ;)
ihazanaccount
Nature Vs Nurture in many cases the answer often seems to be: it's a weird/complicated combination of the the two.
Metacognitivemystery
Yup.
ihazanaccount
Genetics, environment and epigenetics can be intertwined and interact to produce both our behaviors and our perceptions of the world.
ihazanaccount
Epigentics: factors in the environment that can our affect our genes by turning certain genetics on or off (active /dormant)
ihazanaccount
It's a really cool and interesting topic more info here->https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigenetics
distortedlens
A post with APA style references?! Amazing!!
Metacognitivemystery
APA til death <3
ComanderNaismith
my boyfriend was told by both of his ex's he's a psychopath, and started to believe it i think. he would laugh it off, but i could see 1/2
ComanderNaismith
that it actually bothered him quite a bit... test gave him 7/40 so I think he can chill...even with the biast that comes from self diagnosis
GoogleSearchOralMyiasis
Your effort in this is really amazing. As a psych graduate myself, I salute you!
Metacognitivemystery
Thanks, might as well pass on education :)
Zreen
"I'M A HIGH-FUNCTIONING SOCIOPATH! MERRY CHRISTMAS!"
dandelionbomb
Thank you
Metacognitivemystery
You're welcome :)
turdfarmer
madetheaccountjustforyou
Of course I'm not a psychopath. I'm perfect in every way, unlike y'all.
Metacognitivemystery
Found the narcissistic personality disorder ;)
PotatoPanic
Still, test aside, I think this was a very educational post. Being diagnosed with such a disorder and then being branded violent and (1/2)
PotatoPanic
dangerous according to an idiotic post on imgur must feel really bad for people that suffer from something like this. Thanks for posting.
Metacognitivemystery
You're welcome :)
expertinthefield
I need to talk to you! How can we do this? Not over comments
Metacognitivemystery
You can message me :)
TheLimpinBiscuit
To sum up, psychopaths are the highest degree of selfish and can't commit to anything. Also if you break down the word psychopath into (1
TheLimpinBiscuit
it's parts: psycho- and -path, it literally translates into "mental disorder." Well, no wonder we're having such a hard time defining it.
notaballoon
Not to mention "forensic psychologists" are heavily incentivized to name offenders unrehabilitable and excessively pathological
Metacognitivemystery
What's your argument for that?
notaballoon
Diagnoses of psychopathy are often used to prove just *how criminal* a defendant is. So that's how it gets talked about
Metacognitivemystery
Hmm, I see what you mean. It's true that forensic psychologists are used as 'expert witnesses' a lot, but I'm not entirely sure what (1)
Metacognitivemystery
Incentive they would have for doing so if it weren't true. (2)
notaballoon
You can check out The Myth of the Born Criminal for sources, but Hare himself has decried many uses of the PCL-R by prosecution
Metacognitivemystery
Aha, yes I gave that book a quick Google and it appears a little too sensationalist for my taste, personally. In honesty, given that (1)
Metacognitivemystery
Hare receives royalties for the official use of the PCL-R, I'd have thought that would incentise him to have it used wherever possible.
PsycheSiren
As a therapist.. thank you. What a fantastic post! +1
Metacognitivemystery
You're very welcome. What area of therapy do you practise?
PsycheSiren
I use cognitive behavioral therapy with my clients. I'm an LAC working towards my LPC at the moment :)
Metacognitivemystery
Ah! I'm a huge proponent of CBT and REBT!
PsycheSiren
Yeah, CBT is fantastic :D
PotatoPanic
I scored a 16... How the heck did you score a 2? Are you a Saint or some shit? It says I shouldn't, but I'm kinda wondering now...
Acornlad
I got an 11. High Self-Confidence was my downfall.
LadiesInboxMeYourInsecurities
I scored a 16 too... Together we can make a fully functioning psychopath!
Metacognitivemystery
I like this.
Stackalee
Wouldn't worry about it, got 29. Pretty sure I'm not a psychopath.
Metacognitivemystery
Very likely that you are not. These tests should be used in conjunction with other diagnostic criteria :)
derwulf
Well, it's quite romanticized now, you could be inflating your score unconsciously. I knew someone whom I would readily score high (1/2)
derwulf
Much of this test is how I'd describe him, before I was aware of the actual test. It's very distinct when you know what to look for.
Acornlad
*Stackalee slowly puts the thumbs of his victims away into a trunk*
Stackalee
Why would I put my necklace in a trunk?
SonicMonkeys
As long as you live in the US, under 30 points you're just an average American. If you live in the UK, sorry but 25+ points is a psychopath.
Stackalee
*Awkwardly sips tea*
Metacognitivemystery
Haha, well no, but everyone's self-evaluation is likely to be flawed. My friends and family might score me differently, for example :P
Hinahou
Excluding my sister(Bsc in Psychology) I'd expect my friends and family to score me much lower. I don't see why I would not hide traits 1/2
Hinahou
on this test. Why would I not lie in order to fit in with social norms? I feel that would be a common thing to do and rather easy (2/2).
Metacognitivemystery
Well quite. Those that are different tend to suffer from their peers.
PotatoPanic
yeah, I guess only someone with a proper degree would be fit to do an evaluation and I'm 100% sure it wouldn't be only thing he would use.
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
Especially if the person is just a normal Asshole without true psychopathy.
Metacognitivemystery
Quite right. As I stated, it's a single tool in the diagnostic belt. Family histories, biology, behavioural reports, clinical judgement (1)
Metacognitivemystery
Etc. are also taken into account. Then you'd ideally want multiple practitioners to reach the same verdict independently (2)
OnlyWantToSayOneThing
What if I score as a none psychopath because I manipulate people so much I know how a normal person acts?
Metacognitivemystery
I would argue that the complexities of human nature make it virtually impossible to completely account for all human (1)
Metacognitivemystery
(2) behaviour, whether you score highly in psychopathic traits or not. If you don't score highly, chances are you're not.
TheodoreWitchfucker
You certainly don't think low of yourself, that much is sure.
Metacognitivemystery
Could you elaborate?
TheodoreWitchfucker
I mean you have a much better self esteem and view of yourself than many people I know, myself included, who would score higher. A lot 1/2
TheodoreWitchfucker
2/2 of the points from seeing flaw characteristics in one's self.