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Robert Godden of Rights Exposure, a UK human rights monitoring group, and his colleague were arrested at the vicinity of #PolyU on 11.18 despite showing their ID documents. During the period of detention, he was not allowed to eat, sleep or talk to others. What was worse is he could hear some crushing/clashing sound for nearly 5 mins from next door, suspecting the arrested was abused by the HKPF. He also pointed out the arrest was made indiscriminately.
//they were subject to “torrents” of abuse, with an officer making racial and sexual slurs in Cantonese. “You can use your imagination,” he said.//
//At one stage he heard “howls of pain” from behind a curtained off area near by. “It was kind of chilling, and the incident went on for about five minutes,” Mr Godden said. He suspected that officers were pinning a detainee against a metal shutter. “The amount of violence and the physical noise of struggle caused great concern,” he added.//
Read here:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/world/hong-kong-police-abusing-power-says-detainee-5rnn7jhjh
His twitter post:
https://twitter.com/RobertJonGodden/status/1199126889345847296
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What happened in PolyU;
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/15/asia/hong-kong-protest-university-fortress-intl-hnk/index.html
HK police blocked all exits of PolyU, the protesters and students cannot leave PolyU unless surrender to HK Police:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/18/asia/hong-kong-poly-university-protest-police-intl-hnk/index.html
Read here about the parents' gathering for requesting the hkpf to release their kids:
https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/zmjdy3/save-our-kids-parents-are-begging-hong-kong-police-to-release-students-trapped-in-besieged-university-campus
Trapped protesters in PolyU appeared to have unstable mental state, and urged the Hong Kong police to stop the “illegal detention”:
https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/politics/article/3039102/hong-kong-protests-lone-wolf-latest-leave-besieged
https://twitter.com/BlessHK3/status/1198586415996493824
Read here:
https://imgur.com/gallery/fRlWhSC
Live of PolyU protest:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/nov/18/hong-kong-protest-police-storm-polytechnic-university-after-standoff-with-protesters-live
https://www.hongkongfp.com/2019/11/18/hkfp-lens-hong-kong-polyu-engulfed-fierce-police-protester-battles-officers-enter-campus/
His twitter post:
https://twitter.com/RobertJonGodden/status/1199126889345847296
Gweehe101
How will they go on? Very sad. Perhaps HK can negotiate a lease term for next 100 years too. Independent Hong Kong. Money talks! Maybe?!
markthomasc31415
They arrested a human rights observer, didn't let them eat, and let them hear the abuse in other cells? And the UN is still silent?
WC2ElectricBoogaloo
Brave man. I wouldn't be going to china or Hong Kong without a small army behind me.
Picard2024
GipCee
Tiananmen Square Massacre
zim57398
Zyvun
I feel justified calling pro-beijing Nazi's at this point.
SmashingBrickCastration
China is the 4th reich
NPaine
That no police, that Chinese military!
nowwhowhat
Police abusing power?!?! Whaaaaaaaaat!!!!!????
Hungrypiemonger
mild shock
squirrelking
MisterD90
Yes we know... Like we knew that months ago when this started
FractalPrism
sure a "trade agreement" change will fix this.....
353535353535
Im not subscribing to read this article but from this post it sounds like he is making a lot of assumptions about what was going on in there
GeneralLowselFesteem
#boycottchina (yes yes my phone was made in china. Figure it out.)
Pr3ach3r
What do you know, my samsung flagship is made in Vietnam.
retrostone21
If it was all done above board, just show all the documents of those you incarcerated. Pictures of them before arrest and after release.
retrostone21
Easy right?.... Right?.... Far right?
Theinternetwasinventedforveryimportantscience
Human Rights Observers are like human honeypots just sitting there waiting to get arrested and they fell for it.
GTthrowawayddd
Yeah, but you also hear howls of pain in a Horror House on Halloween. They are all actors.
MeatPosicleIsDead
During basic they pretended to have a guy arrested by mp's for desertion. Trust no one, doubt everything, be a good human.
CMDRKORR
LazerHawkAttack
Reminds me of something that happened in the late 30s and 40s
catholiccolor117
Same bro
SephiRothIRA
How could this *ever* happen in an authoritarian state?
Pr3ach3r
We don't ask such questions.
potatoinorbit
China is asshoe.
TheHonorableJudgeDookie
Don't twust china, China is asshoe
Jusmar
You did it, you saved Hong Kong.
potatoinorbit
It took great effort.
odinsleep
well duh ! i hate that this image sharing site has been taken over by the protestors propaganda machine.
odinsleep
now watch while they call me a bot or a paid chinese worker. this propaganda shit is getting out of hand.
michaelfire
Counterinsurgency ops: detain suspects, soften up, secondary review, torture- recruit informants, deter, detain, torture kill resisters BTK.
maktos2
Not according to the bastards over at r/sino.
NecroticWords
Ooooooh. I see where this is going.
nucrys
My friend, who is blind, wants to know!
Cats2cats
Yet the UN sits & watches.
NKato
The UN is a repeat of the League of Nations. Time for WW3.
Cats2cats
I am old enough to remember Vietnam. To speak so blithely of a WW 3 scares mess equally as what is happening.
NKato
I know. It sucks, but when humanity is clearly tearing down its own progress for short term personal and political gains, it's bad.
Cats2cats
Is it society or the wealthy playing both sides?
NKato
The quickest way to solving this is having people hold the ones with the power to account. By any means possible, no matter what.
sewrowhaywaythebeginning
Stop buying Chinese products! That's the only way our leaders and their leaders will ever listen.
Dudeitsausername
Nah, so long as China doesn’t nuke itself, I’ll continue to by their products.
BoredCreep
Problem with that is systemic. Too much is made in China, and Chinese goods have allowed wages to be depressed and price out alternatives
NeatoBurritos
He’s not wrong... but at the same time no one is going to actually do that.
evildiesel
Also send lots of emails to sellout companies asking them where their products are made, when they say China, you say oh sorry.
someonetookmysweetrollqq
That was the first 10 year plan. This next 10 year plan under Xi is to make sure china never need bow to another country again. :(
O0O0O0O0O0O0O0O0
Ha, yeah right.
Iwillneverchangethisusername
NO this is the absolute worst way possible.. It will only hurt the chinese citizens and not the leaders...
FloodingWaters
Ok, so we won't buy any...*checks notes*.... everything
gon0
I totally agree. I planned to visit China. But I have blacklisted China, Chinese airlines and products.I go for Japanese and German products
gon0
Also Korean and US products are fine.You can do alot with these. Just check if your phone has a Kirin CPU from chinese HiSilicon or qualcomm
DMVanDarkholme
So 90% of all clothing in the U.S ? what am i suppose to wear :^D
SavingHongKong
may check this: https://www.reddit.com/r/avoidchineseproducts/
hotelcoffee
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pareidoliaperson
Unilever, colgate, instant ramen, nivea, etc. etc. That's like 95% of everything I buy...well we're fucked, or I just need to buy expensive
DubhIainn
Some of these companies produce products for china in china. Don't expect all their products to be made there. Be diligent and check labels.
pareidoliaperson
local stuff...and THAT who do not do any business with China...so still fucked...2/2
sewrowhaywaythebeginning
Thanks! I didn't know about that community.
NZSheeps
So who's going to tell r/sino?
ourari
That rules out every piece of electronics including devices we use to access Imgur and every piece of infrastructure between us and Imgur.
InsertNameHereIGuess
A whole lot is made in China, but not everything. You can buy electronics that are not made there. It's hard for sure, but not impossible.
Fu3G0
The infrastructure between us is theirs and other countries combined. And even local made wares have Chinese injection.
ProbablyAlright
Basically all of those are just rebranded chinese products if you do any amount of digging.
SnarkySophia
You can buy second hand or refurbished, and there are plenty of large brands manufactured elsewhere. China just has the cheapest.
ourari
I'd be surprised if the are completely free of Chinese-made parts as well.
SnarkySophia
Realistically you can only go so far. Many of the metals and resources used in electronics are produced by China. But everyone doing their
SnarkySophia
best will make more difference than everyone giving up before trying.
evildiesel
I bought a laptop made in germany!
Nize426
The components are all China. Only has to be assembled in the country to be "made in" that country. But it's a start.
DubhIainn
Be rational with your decisions. Avoid Chinese products where domestic or other imported ones are available. Be willing to pay more.
DubhIainn
There will be necessities that you have to buy from china - just be mindful of that. If you manage to avoid 8 of 10 products that's a start.
ourari
Agreed. Just trying to point out that it's (much) easier said than done. Even products made elsewhere may have Chinese-made parts in them.
DubhIainn
I'm well aware, running into difficult decisions myself, making choices between what I need and what I want.
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
We need more than this. We need to make sure that businesses are transparent to us about every step in the demand chain. The shirt I'm /1
iliketosaysomethingandthenjustbanana
Doesn't really matter. The company will lose profit, and will threaten the government that it will go bankrupt and create a massive 1/2
iliketosaysomethingandthenjustbanana
amount of unemployed citizens. The government will inject a couple of million of tax-payers money. This has been repeated for decades 2/2
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
It does matter. China will just change their business model to focus on everything except the final step. And they do most of that /1
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
already. They'll just grow that sector. It'll barely make a dent till we focus on that part of it. /2
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
wearing right now says "Made in Vietnam". Great. Was it made by a Vietnamese company, or a Chinese-owned company with a factory in /2
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
Vietnam? It's linen. Where was the flax grown? Where was it processed into linen? Where was it knitted into fabric? The thread used is /3
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
probably cotton. Where was the cotton grown? Where was it spun into thread? It has tags on it, probably cotton also. Where's that cotton /4
InkyBlinkyPinkyAndClyde
from? Where was it printed? Where did the ink come from? You see what I'm getting at? How were all those constituent pieces /5
TheLostApostle
Nowhere near as effective as corporations boycotting China. A single consumer can't do shite, a few companies will have massive impact.
TheLostApostle
This, however, will not happen any time soon .
CloudCider
Yes but the consumer is who buys the products. So if boycotting catches on that will eventually begin to hurt China.
TheLostApostle
Not enough time to turn the tide. Unfortunately.
DubhIainn
Every single person is a start into the right direction.
DubhIainn
Companies can (will) only start acting, once they lose their business to the customers.
TheLostApostle
While I agree in principle and in attitude, there appears to be not enough time to make a difference at this scale of events and resources.
DubhIainn
I am damn scared for HK. This is only a small step, but its something we can do. We need to do more - but I don't know what.
TheLostApostle
-signed, the pessimist in me