Dec 10, 2016 3:55 PM
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edevolt
"Don't say Vader was the Emperor pet bitch and lost the battle because of feelings."
DannyRosado
Voldemort was a pussy that's why
TheMagicGoat
He did take over Hogwarts for most of Hallows though. That's why Snaps was headmaster and death eaters were teaching DADA and muggle studies
mosesm8
Movie?
delenawinchester
The F Word or What If in some countries :)
76Tromboners
But...but the Empire let two weapons of mass destruction be destroyed? I mean, think of the $ and man power wasted!!!
warriorbard
Actually the galaxy being that large is an indication as to why it's impossible for ANYONE to rule the galaxy.
GhostbusterGuy
Voldemort took over the entire country, including the school for most of the year. And Darth Vader didn't rule the galaxy, the Emperor did.
SoMuchPooPooSon
Who cares? In the end they both failed. All that matters is how you finish
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
Vadar had Palpatine who basically was in control of the galaxy to begin with. Voldemort had a lot more to deal with.
Jayyce
@MobaNR
aletheianalex
Okay smartasses, let's correct the caption to: "Vadar acted as the vengeful, crushing, specter of death for the guy who ruled the Galaxy"
guti41
I liked Driver's performance in This Is Where I Leave You. Hope he can continue to land similar roles.
kkuja
Voldemort was a rebel fighting aqainst status quo (ministry of magic i.e. empire). From certain point of view HP is closer to DV than Luke.
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
Is Adam Driver really tall? Or DanRad really short?
fragya3000
Yes.
screamingshits
is he, uh, touching himself?
ImScaredToUseMyRealNameHere
He said, touching his penis with the tip of his thumb and index finger to assert dominance.
ArtArchive
Funny that this guy has managed to pit Star Wars and Harry Potter fans against each other, even though the series have little in common.
Pheralg
both main protagonists live with their uncles, both get to know they have special powers, both set on an adventure to stop 1/2
2/2 the Big Bad Guy, to whom they are somewhat tied...they have a lot in common, keep in mind that
Star Wars is a classic fantasy story, but set in a Sci-Fi setting
Senpaie
What was the image from?
VernimusMaximus
It's a trailer shot from a new movie called "What if". They don't really say that though. Just in case you were wondering like I was.
maybeillremembermypasswordthistime
It's not a new movie, it's been out for a while. Sauce: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1486834/
Thanks
TheCalvinShow
The Senator, I mean Emperor, ruled in secrecy. So itwasinfact Young Master Ani who ruled the galaxy. Bravo @OP...
Butterstache
HarryScr0tum
Trump inoguration
VoIdemort
Am I invited?
Chablix
The disco ball should be the deathstar!
mratio
Isn't it?
TheWholeBlueberryExperience
Have you supported the First Galactic Empire yet today?
alexcarrie
What is this off?
a movie called The F Word or What If in some countries, It's really good and really sweet :)
MathildeSarah
What's Adam doing with his right hand?
FisterMantastic
Re-adjusting.
InboxMeYourBeards
Feelin' himself.
bigtooth12
Didn't he control almost everything but the school? The only reason being was that the powerful wizard in existence was there
DavosSeaworthTheOnionKnight
But Vader didn't rule the Galaxy...that was the Emperor. If he did rule it why would he be asking Luke to help him in overthrow the 1/2
Jusmar
To steal from the Auralnauts, Vader is a regional manager
JohnnyTitelips
I mean Vader ruled it for the 5 minutes between the Emperor's death and his own.
AtomicSuperMe
thats a valid point, but to kylo ren, he only saw darth vader as the rulere. he never knew about the emperor (unless they told him stories)
KnucleheadFlow
Pretty sure the information would be readily available on Galactic History holochannel
Despotess
No, it's just this dude with weird hair denying the existence of aliens and saying ancient structures were built by indigenous peoples, now.
SHG28
Nah that's all Jawa Pawn stars and conspiracies about aliens not existing
amyhadalittlepond
Nah Galactic History Channel just shows Kessel Run Truckers these says.
bilbo
Psshh everyone knows all they show on that channel now are shows about space whales and Force ghosts.
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thelittleupvotethatcould
Humans*
Sprixxen
I feel like Kylo should be hero worshiping the emperor and not Vader. It seemed to me they just added vader for the audience.
ExplicitVanity
Well it's like Darth Vader was sort of the role model. Ex: Captain America with the U.S. Everyone wants to be Cpt. and not some politician.
Jufasa
But he isn't related to the emperor and Vader defeated the emperor and therefore is more powerful
I don't know how sneaking up behind someone while they're busy and throwing them down a shaft makes you more powerful...
Veddhartha
Space Jam, that's how. Palpatin didn't keep his head on a swivel, and got dunked down a shaft.
Yup, at least I wasn't someone's bitch.
ReallyFuckedUpComent
ACKCHUWALLY the sith ruled the galaxy both vader and sidious had the same ideals , vader wanted to become the master and needed luke.as his1
Apprentice to continue the rule of 2
Bacxaber
Several people outranked Vader, not just Mr. California Raisin.
JewishMonk
Vader was basically a Nazi officer. He was feared, but he wasn't terribly respected. Kinda like Kylo Ren, actually.
To a certain point, yes, but Vader was repeatedly insulted by his peers and subordinates. Admiral Motti had the balls to insult his religion
in front of Imperial senators and generals. I get where you're coming from, but the Imperial characters give the impression that they only
Emperor and "Rule together as father and son"? 2/2
PenguinalParadox
Found Ben Wyatt
jrblast
He was just looking for a way to bond with his kids, duh.
slagath0r
*finger guns* exactly
BachelorGourmet
He ruled the galaxy for about five minutes, depending on how long that drop was.
VenerateThisGuy
He.... Raises a valid point....
Radicool21
That's longer than Voldemort ruled the galaxy, so...
Aerolfoz
As many have said, Emperor ruled, not Vader. This is why Sauron beats you all. Sauron for the win!
VanDerJoik
Morgoths lapdog
But he became an Evil Lord on his own, and I do believe I saw some hinting at him being equally powerful towards the end.
Morgoth destroyed half a continent, or at least, made it sink into the sea if I remember right...THAT now, is power
Nùmenor? That was the gods, brought on by Sauron corrupting humanity.
I think I remembered kind of wrong, what I was talking about was Beleriand, and it's destruction might have been a consequence of the war1/2
Not even close. Morgoth was a vala who ruled Arda for aeons, creating Orcs, dragons and creatures . He is evil and darkness incarnate
Sauron merely ruled in Mordor and lost two wars. His tricks never accomplished much except (not by him) the destruction of Numenor
All right I forgot Morgoth then, should have said him. Damnit.
speedman
At least HP didn´t get his ass kicked by a girl, amirite?
Horus175
With absolutely no training.
emguhraeb
Grindlwald did in the new movie
Schmuck4hire
She'd had experience in physical fights for years, it's the matter of the Force that is unexplained. Also, Kylo was injured, and his 1/
whole point is that he wasn't ready, and wasn't Vader 2.0 as he hoped he was. 2/2
MyUsernameIsntAvailable
It took Luke months to be able to force grab his saber in a Wampa cave and she had figured out the force existed for like a couple of hours.
The Force thing is something I'm on the fence about, and it is a problem seeing that it is her tapping into it that won her the fight in 1/
the end. I do feel like this is leading somewhere though, and until then I'm in it enough because it fits her arc. 2/2
chinoelpastelero
Well that's because Harry did his f****** job, Not like Luke who was playing with toys
JetMarks
Yeah but the difference is Harry Potter was shitty writing.
Raditz25
i love the discussions under this post. so so good.
immeister
Luke only got drunk at Toshi station
harry had a twig, luke had a sword. harry had a broom, luke had a space ship (im not hating on HP, just wanted to say this)
NoHazzard
Luke is a gifted wizard. Harry is not. (Not hating hp. But that's somehow the point of the story)
mozzaru
Harry's a fairly gifted wizard
The one good thing is his patronus, which he bootstrapparadoxed himself into. Other qualities are his itemfind and dying
PhycoFrenzy
But they both had magic, so
TheVakarian
That harry has to use a wand for. Knock the stick out of his hand and he's finished.
Dreigiau
He did blow up his aunt without a wand once
i'm just saying, i think a wizard Staff is better because you can attack people with it and do magic
Gandalf docet
NobodyLurksLikeGaston
Except force users can also do magic, but don't need a tool. They can also call their weapon to them from a distance, unlike wizards
LifeCastingDoneByGod
But can't wizards do some magic without a wand?
from what i know, no. they must have a wand to do most magic tricks, excluding potion effects
knoldpold
To a very small extend. Powerful wizards like dumbledore and voldemort can kinda make it work, but most in the wizard society are useless1/2
ABillionDucks
Luke is pretty useless even with his saber.
Chernobyx
Also fucking R2 distracted Luke on Dagobah so much. Every time he was making progress that little fuck just beep booped until he stopped.
Yoda:"a way there is not, to this fucking toaster turn off?"
Cpkeyes
So...Luke didn't blow up the death star?
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Well, neither of them had no idea about their destiny/lineage. Until an owl-letter war and then an old man. Luke had fuck-all to do other1/2
than to argue with the closest thing to a father figure and Harry was busy being abused for some god forsaken reason rather than raised 2/3
by someone fully aware and respectful of the situation. Shit, people did wait forever to tell either of them about their destinies huh? 3/3
HorseMcFucker
Except the Highschool had the equivelant of 15-30 nuclear weapons running around and an impenetrateable shield.
secretlibby
Impenetrable.
barnwolf
Did anyone in the HP books even come close to wiping a city off the face of the earth? Pretty sure they weren't nuclear weapon strength.
You see, that's the misconception. There Is a spell documented and mentioned - can't remember Its name - that would do that.
Heck, a handgun or a sniper rifle would have won most of their duels to the death.
A single shot from a Star Destroyer turbolaser has a strenght of about 2000 terajoules. That's the power of a modern thermonuclear weapon.
Comradesjeltonarmy
And it somehow destroys a planet. I feel like those numbers are low.
Whoops. I messed up. I know the difference between Star Destroyers and the Death Star. BOY are my cheeks red.
Yep. The Death Star of course detonates planets and is far, far, far more powerful than 30 nukes.
Dontrespectmahauthoritah
this is a star destroyer. You're mixing it up with death star.
Horstenbaum
He said Star Destroyer, not death star.
OrokuSaki52
Ya and Voldie had more powerfull nuclear weapons. Death eater>students.
theycallmemrfish
And Voldemort was defeated by a first year all because Harry's mom loved him.
BigBoyBillClinton
And Voldemort was running the Ministry of Magic.
thesolamnus
The shield got penetrated no?
Tollski
What was the equivalence of nuclear weapons?
shileka
this, yes a dedicated 16 year old sorcerer could deal some damage but not that much
TrustMeImABassist
EXPECTO HIROSHIMUS
Galfronon
Take my +1 you magnificent bastard.
Harry Potter, Heromione, Dumbledore, all the other teachers, etc.
Asciiman
That is truly terrible reasoning. They are not in any way equivalent to a nuclear weapon.
Meanwhile... turbolasers ARE. Estimated yield of 2000 terajoules PER SHOT. That's a modern thermonuclear weapon.
RedClaws23
A powerful wizard cannot level a city, but a Death Star can vaporize a planet. The scale isn't the same at all. Sidious even cleared out a s
chool full of well-trained and combat-ready magic-users with so little effort that they made it into a montage.
People always compare to the Death Star... forgetting a SINGLE shot from a turbolaser can level cities.
1/2Well yes, but that doesn't fully convey the scale of Sidious's power. That's like reminding someone that force push can bruise when force
2/2 grip can impact your lungs and force lightning can stop your heart
Or have ridiculous people like Nihilus / Vitiate devouring an entire planet of all life.
He also had the entire 501st to help him. You make it seem like he did it single handedly.
You do realize how large the 501st is a battalion. SO 500 to 800 troops. Much bigger than Voldy "Army"
DeltaBird
The children? Lol
LincolnsVengeance
Children, padawans, and the extreme elderly. Barely a warm up for the second strongest force user ever
PillsburyFuckboi
Second?
Luke, despite all his flaws, is stronger then his father.
freddyflash311
You ability to shield a school is insignificant next to the power of the Force
Let's see how well the shield holds up against orbital bombardment.
Misslnformation
30 Nuclear weapons < 2 death stars with shields, hundreds (thousands?) of tie fighters and battalions of soldiers w laser weapons?
PapiBlanco
Power to destroy a planet<<<<<
The turbolaser turrets (You know, the ones that act like 88mm flak cannons) are in reality as powerful as tactical nukes. With each shot.
Swiftninja
How good were all those shield when they had a one hole that destroys the station.
Well the shields were so good the rebels knew they couldn't overwhelm them so they took out the gennys. Shields up, Episode 3 has a sad end
twohearteddoctor
Yes but that was on darth vaders side
There you go, using logic and making sense.
> Impenetrateable shield.
It got pretty penetrated iirc
DefinitelyNotTippster
Nope, the shield generator got taken down.
I was referring to Harry Potter. The only way they could get to the death star was by taking the gennys down it was that badd ass.
skydivingbigfoot
I'll remind you that the Death Stars were taken down by the equivalent of a space redneck
CookiesaurusRex
Who had space telekinesis, the guidance of a magic Muppet and half the galaxy in a well-organized militia behind him?
BardockTheRebel
*in a well regulated militia
Glumerlink
an illegal militia created by people from many different nation states coming together
flightlessfruit
A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep & bear Arms shall not be infringed
....so a well regulated militia.
hitshappens
In combat, a wand is less useful than an AK-47 and a grenade.
VINGARDIUM LEVIOSA!
theoiulkj
leviosa*
You can't wingardium leviosa a storm of bullets
No, but you can the pin of a grenade, the grenade Itself, the AK47, the ammo, etc.
And in that time, someone can use any of their weapons against you. Or they can just dodge the spell.
The phrase wizard has to say is quite long, you think they could do it before enemy pulled the trigger?
That because the wizards in Harry Potter are not as ruthless as they should be I would just be levitating people real high and dropping them
TheThroneOfGames
"Every drop of magical blood spilled is a terrible waste" his goal wasn't really to kill everyone, wanted to take control and kill harry.
METAAAAAAAAAL
That takes WAY too much time compared to shooting someone with AK-47
if magicka taught me anything about being a wizard, it's that I would alternatingly spam explosive steam & ice balls.
The genocidal megalomaniac Voldemort was not as ruthless as he should be...Also, levitation isn't as powerful as a nuclear missile.
I was just giving an example of being ruthless. A wizard could kidnap the president steal his memories and replace him in a heartbeat.
LifeOfCray
If they're so powerful, then why are they hiding? They wouldn't even know what a gun does until they were bleeding out on the floor.
No voldermort just didn't have a good plan
protego followed by avada kedavra, and bombarda maxima if you're taking cover. Literally no chance against a semi skilled wizard.
Combat in Harry Potter was pretty much all for show. Some missiles,drones, and sniper rifles could have dealt with the whole issue
You're not going to protego faster than a bullet, avada kedavra is easily dodged. Bombarda maxima has less range than a gun.
And where did you find the range of bombarda maxima?
also a skilled wizard can just make themselves invisible instantly, so what are you aiming at?
Heat signatures. Drones don't need visible light.
you don't have to aim protego, just move wand ~1 foot so it is easily used before someone aims and shoots.
Well considering the fact that Rowling put very little thought into the math of Harry Potter, I assumed it was something that wouldn't (1/2)
(2/2)accidentally kill everyone every time you use bombarda maxima. Also, protego is pretty short lived.
Just remember, combat in books is made underpowered for epic fights. Real combat is not glorious. It's harsh, quick, and brutal.
edevolt
"Don't say Vader was the Emperor pet bitch and lost the battle because of feelings."
DannyRosado
Voldemort was a pussy that's why
TheMagicGoat
He did take over Hogwarts for most of Hallows though. That's why Snaps was headmaster and death eaters were teaching DADA and muggle studies
mosesm8
Movie?
delenawinchester
The F Word or What If in some countries :)
76Tromboners
But...but the Empire let two weapons of mass destruction be destroyed? I mean, think of the $ and man power wasted!!!
warriorbard
Actually the galaxy being that large is an indication as to why it's impossible for ANYONE to rule the galaxy.
GhostbusterGuy
Voldemort took over the entire country, including the school for most of the year. And Darth Vader didn't rule the galaxy, the Emperor did.
SoMuchPooPooSon
Who cares? In the end they both failed. All that matters is how you finish
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
Vadar had Palpatine who basically was in control of the galaxy to begin with. Voldemort had a lot more to deal with.
Jayyce
@MobaNR
aletheianalex
Okay smartasses, let's correct the caption to: "Vadar acted as the vengeful, crushing, specter of death for the guy who ruled the Galaxy"
guti41
I liked Driver's performance in This Is Where I Leave You. Hope he can continue to land similar roles.
kkuja
Voldemort was a rebel fighting aqainst status quo (ministry of magic i.e. empire). From certain point of view HP is closer to DV than Luke.
TheLesserOfTwoWeevils
Is Adam Driver really tall? Or DanRad really short?
fragya3000
Yes.
screamingshits
is he, uh, touching himself?
ImScaredToUseMyRealNameHere
He said, touching his penis with the tip of his thumb and index finger to assert dominance.
ArtArchive
Funny that this guy has managed to pit Star Wars and Harry Potter fans against each other, even though the series have little in common.
Pheralg
both main protagonists live with their uncles, both get to know they have special powers, both set on an adventure to stop 1/2
Pheralg
2/2 the Big Bad Guy, to whom they are somewhat tied...they have a lot in common, keep in mind that
Pheralg
Star Wars is a classic fantasy story, but set in a Sci-Fi setting
Senpaie
What was the image from?
VernimusMaximus
It's a trailer shot from a new movie called "What if". They don't really say that though. Just in case you were wondering like I was.
maybeillremembermypasswordthistime
It's not a new movie, it's been out for a while. Sauce: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1486834/
VernimusMaximus
Thanks
TheCalvinShow
The Senator, I mean Emperor, ruled in secrecy. So itwasinfact Young Master Ani who ruled the galaxy. Bravo @OP...
Butterstache
HarryScr0tum
Trump inoguration
VoIdemort
Am I invited?
Chablix
The disco ball should be the deathstar!
mratio
Isn't it?
TheWholeBlueberryExperience
Have you supported the First Galactic Empire yet today?
alexcarrie
What is this off?
delenawinchester
a movie called The F Word or What If in some countries, It's really good and really sweet :)
MathildeSarah
What's Adam doing with his right hand?
FisterMantastic
Re-adjusting.
InboxMeYourBeards
Feelin' himself.
bigtooth12
Didn't he control almost everything but the school? The only reason being was that the powerful wizard in existence was there
DavosSeaworthTheOnionKnight
But Vader didn't rule the Galaxy...that was the Emperor. If he did rule it why would he be asking Luke to help him in overthrow the 1/2
Jusmar
To steal from the Auralnauts, Vader is a regional manager
JohnnyTitelips
I mean Vader ruled it for the 5 minutes between the Emperor's death and his own.
AtomicSuperMe
thats a valid point, but to kylo ren, he only saw darth vader as the rulere. he never knew about the emperor (unless they told him stories)
KnucleheadFlow
Pretty sure the information would be readily available on Galactic History holochannel
Despotess
No, it's just this dude with weird hair denying the existence of aliens and saying ancient structures were built by indigenous peoples, now.
SHG28
Nah that's all Jawa Pawn stars and conspiracies about aliens not existing
amyhadalittlepond
Nah Galactic History Channel just shows Kessel Run Truckers these says.
bilbo
Psshh everyone knows all they show on that channel now are shows about space whales and Force ghosts.
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thelittleupvotethatcould
Humans*
Sprixxen
I feel like Kylo should be hero worshiping the emperor and not Vader. It seemed to me they just added vader for the audience.
ExplicitVanity
Well it's like Darth Vader was sort of the role model. Ex: Captain America with the U.S. Everyone wants to be Cpt. and not some politician.
Jufasa
But he isn't related to the emperor and Vader defeated the emperor and therefore is more powerful
Sprixxen
I don't know how sneaking up behind someone while they're busy and throwing them down a shaft makes you more powerful...
Veddhartha
Space Jam, that's how. Palpatin didn't keep his head on a swivel, and got dunked down a shaft.
VoIdemort
Yup, at least I wasn't someone's bitch.
ReallyFuckedUpComent
ACKCHUWALLY the sith ruled the galaxy both vader and sidious had the same ideals , vader wanted to become the master and needed luke.as his1
ReallyFuckedUpComent
Apprentice to continue the rule of 2
Bacxaber
Several people outranked Vader, not just Mr. California Raisin.
JewishMonk
Vader was basically a Nazi officer. He was feared, but he wasn't terribly respected. Kinda like Kylo Ren, actually.
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JewishMonk
To a certain point, yes, but Vader was repeatedly insulted by his peers and subordinates. Admiral Motti had the balls to insult his religion
JewishMonk
in front of Imperial senators and generals. I get where you're coming from, but the Imperial characters give the impression that they only
DavosSeaworthTheOnionKnight
Emperor and "Rule together as father and son"? 2/2
PenguinalParadox
Found Ben Wyatt
jrblast
He was just looking for a way to bond with his kids, duh.
slagath0r
*finger guns* exactly
BachelorGourmet
He ruled the galaxy for about five minutes, depending on how long that drop was.
VenerateThisGuy
He.... Raises a valid point....
Radicool21
That's longer than Voldemort ruled the galaxy, so...
Aerolfoz
As many have said, Emperor ruled, not Vader. This is why Sauron beats you all. Sauron for the win!
VanDerJoik
Morgoths lapdog
Aerolfoz
But he became an Evil Lord on his own, and I do believe I saw some hinting at him being equally powerful towards the end.
Pheralg
Morgoth destroyed half a continent, or at least, made it sink into the sea if I remember right...THAT now, is power
Aerolfoz
Nùmenor? That was the gods, brought on by Sauron corrupting humanity.
Pheralg
I think I remembered kind of wrong, what I was talking about was Beleriand, and it's destruction might have been a consequence of the war1/2
VanDerJoik
Not even close. Morgoth was a vala who ruled Arda for aeons, creating Orcs, dragons and creatures . He is evil and darkness incarnate
VanDerJoik
Sauron merely ruled in Mordor and lost two wars. His tricks never accomplished much except (not by him) the destruction of Numenor
Aerolfoz
All right I forgot Morgoth then, should have said him. Damnit.
speedman
At least HP didn´t get his ass kicked by a girl, amirite?
Horus175
With absolutely no training.
emguhraeb
Grindlwald did in the new movie
Schmuck4hire
She'd had experience in physical fights for years, it's the matter of the Force that is unexplained. Also, Kylo was injured, and his 1/
Schmuck4hire
whole point is that he wasn't ready, and wasn't Vader 2.0 as he hoped he was. 2/2
MyUsernameIsntAvailable
It took Luke months to be able to force grab his saber in a Wampa cave and she had figured out the force existed for like a couple of hours.
Schmuck4hire
The Force thing is something I'm on the fence about, and it is a problem seeing that it is her tapping into it that won her the fight in 1/
Schmuck4hire
the end. I do feel like this is leading somewhere though, and until then I'm in it enough because it fits her arc. 2/2
chinoelpastelero
Well that's because Harry did his f****** job, Not like Luke who was playing with toys
JetMarks
Yeah but the difference is Harry Potter was shitty writing.
Raditz25
i love the discussions under this post. so so good.
immeister
Luke only got drunk at Toshi station
AtomicSuperMe
harry had a twig, luke had a sword. harry had a broom, luke had a space ship (im not hating on HP, just wanted to say this)
NoHazzard
Luke is a gifted wizard. Harry is not. (Not hating hp. But that's somehow the point of the story)
mozzaru
Harry's a fairly gifted wizard
NoHazzard
The one good thing is his patronus, which he bootstrapparadoxed himself into. Other qualities are his itemfind and dying
PhycoFrenzy
But they both had magic, so
TheVakarian
That harry has to use a wand for. Knock the stick out of his hand and he's finished.
Dreigiau
He did blow up his aunt without a wand once
AtomicSuperMe
i'm just saying, i think a wizard Staff is better because you can attack people with it and do magic
Pheralg
Gandalf docet
NobodyLurksLikeGaston
Except force users can also do magic, but don't need a tool. They can also call their weapon to them from a distance, unlike wizards
LifeCastingDoneByGod
But can't wizards do some magic without a wand?
AtomicSuperMe
from what i know, no. they must have a wand to do most magic tricks, excluding potion effects
knoldpold
To a very small extend. Powerful wizards like dumbledore and voldemort can kinda make it work, but most in the wizard society are useless1/2
ABillionDucks
Luke is pretty useless even with his saber.
Chernobyx
Also fucking R2 distracted Luke on Dagobah so much. Every time he was making progress that little fuck just beep booped until he stopped.
Pheralg
Yoda:"a way there is not, to this fucking toaster turn off?"
Cpkeyes
So...Luke didn't blow up the death star?
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
Well, neither of them had no idea about their destiny/lineage. Until an owl-letter war and then an old man. Luke had fuck-all to do other1/2
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
than to argue with the closest thing to a father figure and Harry was busy being abused for some god forsaken reason rather than raised 2/3
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
by someone fully aware and respectful of the situation. Shit, people did wait forever to tell either of them about their destinies huh? 3/3
HorseMcFucker
Except the Highschool had the equivelant of 15-30 nuclear weapons running around and an impenetrateable shield.
secretlibby
Impenetrable.
barnwolf
Did anyone in the HP books even come close to wiping a city off the face of the earth? Pretty sure they weren't nuclear weapon strength.
HorseMcFucker
You see, that's the misconception. There Is a spell documented and mentioned - can't remember Its name - that would do that.
barnwolf
Heck, a handgun or a sniper rifle would have won most of their duels to the death.
Aerolfoz
A single shot from a Star Destroyer turbolaser has a strenght of about 2000 terajoules. That's the power of a modern thermonuclear weapon.
Comradesjeltonarmy
And it somehow destroys a planet. I feel like those numbers are low.
Comradesjeltonarmy
Whoops. I messed up. I know the difference between Star Destroyers and the Death Star. BOY are my cheeks red.
Aerolfoz
Yep. The Death Star of course detonates planets and is far, far, far more powerful than 30 nukes.
Dontrespectmahauthoritah
Horstenbaum
He said Star Destroyer, not death star.
OrokuSaki52
Ya and Voldie had more powerfull nuclear weapons. Death eater>students.
theycallmemrfish
And Voldemort was defeated by a first year all because Harry's mom loved him.
BigBoyBillClinton
And Voldemort was running the Ministry of Magic.
thesolamnus
The shield got penetrated no?
Tollski
What was the equivalence of nuclear weapons?
shileka
this, yes a dedicated 16 year old sorcerer could deal some damage but not that much
TrustMeImABassist
EXPECTO HIROSHIMUS
Galfronon
Take my +1 you magnificent bastard.
HorseMcFucker
Harry Potter, Heromione, Dumbledore, all the other teachers, etc.
Asciiman
That is truly terrible reasoning. They are not in any way equivalent to a nuclear weapon.
Aerolfoz
Meanwhile... turbolasers ARE. Estimated yield of 2000 terajoules PER SHOT. That's a modern thermonuclear weapon.
RedClaws23
A powerful wizard cannot level a city, but a Death Star can vaporize a planet. The scale isn't the same at all. Sidious even cleared out a s
RedClaws23
chool full of well-trained and combat-ready magic-users with so little effort that they made it into a montage.
Aerolfoz
People always compare to the Death Star... forgetting a SINGLE shot from a turbolaser can level cities.
RedClaws23
1/2Well yes, but that doesn't fully convey the scale of Sidious's power. That's like reminding someone that force push can bruise when force
RedClaws23
2/2 grip can impact your lungs and force lightning can stop your heart
Dontrespectmahauthoritah
Or have ridiculous people like Nihilus / Vitiate devouring an entire planet of all life.
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Comradesjeltonarmy
He also had the entire 501st to help him. You make it seem like he did it single handedly.
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Comradesjeltonarmy
You do realize how large the 501st is a battalion. SO 500 to 800 troops. Much bigger than Voldy "Army"
DeltaBird
The children? Lol
LincolnsVengeance
Children, padawans, and the extreme elderly. Barely a warm up for the second strongest force user ever
PillsburyFuckboi
Second?
LincolnsVengeance
Luke, despite all his flaws, is stronger then his father.
freddyflash311
You ability to shield a school is insignificant next to the power of the Force
Dontrespectmahauthoritah
Let's see how well the shield holds up against orbital bombardment.
Misslnformation
30 Nuclear weapons < 2 death stars with shields, hundreds (thousands?) of tie fighters and battalions of soldiers w laser weapons?
PapiBlanco
Power to destroy a planet<<<<<
Aerolfoz
The turbolaser turrets (You know, the ones that act like 88mm flak cannons) are in reality as powerful as tactical nukes. With each shot.
Swiftninja
How good were all those shield when they had a one hole that destroys the station.
Misslnformation
Well the shields were so good the rebels knew they couldn't overwhelm them so they took out the gennys. Shields up, Episode 3 has a sad end
twohearteddoctor
Yes but that was on darth vaders side
Misslnformation
There you go, using logic and making sense.
HorseMcFucker
> Impenetrateable shield.
Misslnformation
It got pretty penetrated iirc
DefinitelyNotTippster
Nope, the shield generator got taken down.
Misslnformation
I was referring to Harry Potter. The only way they could get to the death star was by taking the gennys down it was that badd ass.
skydivingbigfoot
I'll remind you that the Death Stars were taken down by the equivalent of a space redneck
CookiesaurusRex
Who had space telekinesis, the guidance of a magic Muppet and half the galaxy in a well-organized militia behind him?
BardockTheRebel
*in a well regulated militia
Glumerlink
an illegal militia created by people from many different nation states coming together
flightlessfruit
A well regulated Militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep & bear Arms shall not be infringed
BardockTheRebel
....so a well regulated militia.
hitshappens
In combat, a wand is less useful than an AK-47 and a grenade.
HorseMcFucker
VINGARDIUM LEVIOSA!
theoiulkj
leviosa*
hitshappens
You can't wingardium leviosa a storm of bullets
HorseMcFucker
No, but you can the pin of a grenade, the grenade Itself, the AK47, the ammo, etc.
hitshappens
And in that time, someone can use any of their weapons against you. Or they can just dodge the spell.
Dontrespectmahauthoritah
The phrase wizard has to say is quite long, you think they could do it before enemy pulled the trigger?
LifeCastingDoneByGod
That because the wizards in Harry Potter are not as ruthless as they should be I would just be levitating people real high and dropping them
TheThroneOfGames
"Every drop of magical blood spilled is a terrible waste" his goal wasn't really to kill everyone, wanted to take control and kill harry.
METAAAAAAAAAL
That takes WAY too much time compared to shooting someone with AK-47
flightlessfruit
if magicka taught me anything about being a wizard, it's that I would alternatingly spam explosive steam & ice balls.
hitshappens
The genocidal megalomaniac Voldemort was not as ruthless as he should be...Also, levitation isn't as powerful as a nuclear missile.
LifeCastingDoneByGod
I was just giving an example of being ruthless. A wizard could kidnap the president steal his memories and replace him in a heartbeat.
LifeOfCray
If they're so powerful, then why are they hiding? They wouldn't even know what a gun does until they were bleeding out on the floor.
LifeCastingDoneByGod
No voldermort just didn't have a good plan
TheThroneOfGames
protego followed by avada kedavra, and bombarda maxima if you're taking cover. Literally no chance against a semi skilled wizard.
hitshappens
Combat in Harry Potter was pretty much all for show. Some missiles,drones, and sniper rifles could have dealt with the whole issue
hitshappens
You're not going to protego faster than a bullet, avada kedavra is easily dodged. Bombarda maxima has less range than a gun.
TheThroneOfGames
And where did you find the range of bombarda maxima?
TheThroneOfGames
also a skilled wizard can just make themselves invisible instantly, so what are you aiming at?
hitshappens
Heat signatures. Drones don't need visible light.
TheThroneOfGames
you don't have to aim protego, just move wand ~1 foot so it is easily used before someone aims and shoots.
hitshappens
Well considering the fact that Rowling put very little thought into the math of Harry Potter, I assumed it was something that wouldn't (1/2)
hitshappens
(2/2)accidentally kill everyone every time you use bombarda maxima. Also, protego is pretty short lived.
hitshappens
Just remember, combat in books is made underpowered for epic fights. Real combat is not glorious. It's harsh, quick, and brutal.