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I'm looking forward to seeing Paul Atreides ride a sand worm through the shield wall in the next one.
Dec 7, 2021 10:23 AM
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I'm looking forward to seeing Paul Atreides ride a sand worm through the shield wall in the next one.
djangojazz
Yeah the original is much better than people give it credit for. Read the books though, there is no way any movie could do it justice, it>
djangojazz
has to be a series like on the scale of funding like GOT. Which probably won't happen.
Ghlargh
Dune was an amazing RTS game AND NOTHING ELSE! :)
ArmchairGamer1010
I adored the movie. It does cut off rather abruptly, but the visuals and talent really make me excited for them to continue.
SaneBrain
Great movie until they came up with "weirding module" I about puked. I like it better than the latest in many ways, Weirding modules, WTF
mward1984
Yeah, it's on Netflix I think right now. It has aged REMARKABLY well.
Xerxes4242
Hopefully the new one or the miniseries. Otherwise I'm sorry.
BlueRonfar
Need to rewatch miniseries to confirm it’s not just nostalgia making me think the new movie didn’t do anything better than updated visuals.
RoutemasterFlash
I'm hoping to watch it in the next few days. I want it to be good, but 'hope clouds observation', as the Bene Gesserit say.
ThefluteCaptainPicardplayedfirstinhisimaginationtheninreallife
I ride sandworms. You've probably never seen one. They're pretty underground.
squigster37
Did you actually make this graphic? The only place I can find it is in your post.
ThefluteCaptainPicardplayedfirstinhisimaginationtheninreallife
It's from a webcomic I followed daily ~15-20 years ago, you can get it on a T-shirt
ThefluteCaptainPicardplayedfirstinhisimaginationtheninreallife
https://topatoco.com/collections/goats
scuba7jb
[Awkward inner-monologue that's a voice-over narration] ... I found the style of that film to be really obnixious
DarthGoodguy
I WIIIIIIILL KILL YOU!!! *turns 180* Just so you guys on the other side know I said I will kill him.
Jonesso
The original Dune was a product of a studio not willing to give artistic liberty and full control to a director
Housemaster
Which one, Jodorowsky? His idea of Dune was less "Dune" and more "Surrealist Space Arabia"
dudds6699
It is Bifar the most Cinematic movie released That I have seen in theaters.
steerAwwPrincess
zendaya cannot act. Ruined the beginning her shitty narration
VonLiptonSchtein
I liked it too, but I felt like it was trying to trick me into going by not showing its only part 1 until watching the movie
Pando0
I had the same, but I had the feeling it was going to be a part 1 when some scenes/storylines were just taking too long, even for a 3h movie
VonLiptonSchtein
Yeah, I should have realized. I'm also glad they did since it is a massive book, but it would have been nice to be up front with it
TheSecondPiewackit
They've been very up front about that for like 3 years.
VonLiptonSchtein
None of the trailers I have seen indicated that. The title of the movie is listed as Dune, not Dune Part 1 or anything like that
TheSecondPiewackit
IDK what to tell you. Its been apart of pretty much every interview, press release etc. You managed to miss a huge detail until the theater.
behrditz
Right? I saw it, and then the movie ended at what is like the midway point of the original movie, and i wasnt expecting that.
VonLiptonSchtein
That's only about a third of the book (if I remember correctly) I really don't get why they didn't make that clear in trailers and things
Mephane
Hovencloof
Frank Herbert did not write Dune with the idea that it would ever be a movie. It is far too long and complicated for that.
PictureArchiver
It’s far too complex a story to put into a movie. Unless you made it into a series where all aspects would get their due space.
Blastergv9
So much internal dialogue that cant be put on screen. I think Villenueve has done a great job so far
Qualtagh
Most comic books are far too long and complicated for /a/ movie, so that's why segments get made into movies. Sometimes, this works well!
masteroidul
Please don't compare comic books to Dune.
Qualtagh
Man, I did not expect someone to take that bait so quickly. Anyways, "It's too intricate for the base medium of film" is a bullshit 1/3
Qualtagh
and elitist take. Any story that lacks a single component that could be compelling on film is, honestly, hollow. 2/3
Qualtagh
And a movie does not have to encompass an entire work to be a worthwhile adaptation. 3/3
masteroidul
It doesn't look like it was me who took the bait.
Qualtagh
ah, the good ol' "I know you are, but what am I?" A true classic.
azarza
all of his books are neat, if not great. My favourite is the Destination: Void series
Jamesincandenza
I read it recently. can't believe they got all that from a comic book
davemUnderscoreOr
There were 3 issues.
billyrayvirus
Amazing visuals but the audio sucked. Not sure if it was bad production or my theater set it up wrong.
shoe47
I saw IMAX and Dolby ultra or whatever and the sound was incredible, too loud for me but excellent.
Qualtagh
Yeah, I suggest finding a theater with Dolby Atmos; every other system fucks it up.
billyrayvirus
The loud parts were painful enough that I had to plug my ears. The quiet dialogue was incomprehensible.
positiveleroy
You can blame Villeneuve for that. He thinks watching movies anywhere other than a theater is an affront to god and Mother Nature.
ekzeko
So that's why he made a movie for a tv channel?
RonniCalzone
Yer a wizard Herbert!
snomang
i thought it was way overhyped, was very slow, 5/10 story
AdrianDunne
2021 Dune has an awful lot of shots of things landing and people standing to attention in big squares.
sirelmo1
As long as they don't repeat that stupid sand walk like in the recent version.
LuciusNeedful
The 2021 remake, while visually stunning, was just a 2-1/2 hour into, that barely touched the core story.
cshaw5by5365
Yes visually stunning, I just couldn't get at all into it like I did for the original movie and source materia
edasm
Maybe the war for Arrakis will be more than a montage this time around?
DedoLebeda
I think the Lynch version did a better job at storeytelling, great iconic opening monologue and mysticism. The new movie needs longer shots.
Housemaster
You're comparing the completed story against thr half finished one
SirGalahadKnight
That was what is so great about it, no rushed half cut edit movie! I Loved how they lingered in the suspense of storytelling,I missed that
schizznatt
I wish they had included the dinner party though
fencer1964
You mean the Red Wedding in the cargo hold of Serenity?
Zetor
And they skipped a lot of stuff
Yetums
Guy want to make it palatable to the masses while staying true to the books, slower the beter with a limited budget.
Yetums
So far so good, can't wait for part 2 and on.
cshaw5by5365
Yes visually stunning, I just couldn't get at all into it like I did for the original movie and source materia
blumpk1npie
Franchise = dollarydoos
edasm
goboltz
You don't "Kill the Cow" if you intend to "Milk it" for more sequels ! !
TheRimOfTheSky
I am glad. TONS of exposition and I'm SUPER excited for the next movie so they can pay even more attention to the exciting parts.
TheRimOfTheSky
If anything, the more movies there are for a long ass book series, the better. So much harder to include the small details otherwise.
cshaw5by5365
Yes visually stunning, I just couldn't get at all into it like I did for the original movie and source materia
everythingzed
Yes! An my friend only wheezed ONCE mid-movie that “it’s really slow, but I love every moment and is weirdly intrigued all along!”. I agreed
Miller16of16
Effects were great but the acting/directing were disappointing, won't be going out of my way to watch the rest of it.
akhali1
Or most of the characters. Leto/Jessica/Paul get a fair amount of attention, but it doesn't tell us much about Gurney, Thufir, Duncan, >
akhali1
Wellington, Liet, etc.
edasm
Big hunks of backstory just ignored.
cshaw5by5365
Yes visually stunning, I just couldn't get at all into it like I did for the original movie and source materia
SaltyEsq
Yet they failed to explain anything about anything. What's a mentat? Why's thufir important or feared? Who's piter? Whys the Dr. Important?
CrossLament
It feels like one of those anime movies that's made entirely for the fans that have already read the manga.
TakeTheStairs
im thinking that in 2 and 3 they might do a lot of flash backs to explain how they got to that point
SaltyEsq
Could be, but by that point no one's gonna remember the silly beurocrat named thufir
SaltyEsq
Great movie, but people are so blinded by how aesthetically pleasing the movie was that they didn't notice the gaping plot issues
gibberishDude
It was cluttered and i have some issues with pacing, but there are no plot holes, it just doesn’t serve as a standalone movie.
SaltyEsq
Fine plot holes isn't the right word. But gaps in plot explanation. You don't even know why the Baron is bad besides the Duke said so
BreathBeStank
Meh, I read dune so I enjoyed our without the need for to much character development. The director is also a huge fan of dune so
BreathBeStank
It might be he just wanted to make the movie for that audience
SaltyEsq
Then he shouldn't have started plots without finishing. Like why bother having the doctor betray the Duke. Ignore his conditioning
eggmuffin
None of that really matters to the core story. Certainty not when viewed from Paul's perspective who already knows those things.
SaltyEsq
SPOILER considering Paul is a mentat, it's a big deal for the first two books. And the viewers have no idea.
eggmuffin
And beyond demonstrating memory or computational talents, how would you show that? You'd likely have to squeeze it in prior to Arrakis.
eggmuffin
Otherwise you risk the aufience thinking it's spice—related. And remember, it's already nearly three hours long, so make it quick.
cshaw5by5365
Yes visually stunning, I just couldn't get at all into it like I did for the original movie and source materia
TheobromineAddict
I watched Dune 1984 on Sunday ($2 on Prime) followed by Dune 2021 ($40 Cinépolis). The story is told MUCH better by the older Dune. Save $$.
couscous4U
40$ ???
TheobromineAddict
Luxury theater. Reclining chairs, table service for drinks and food. Digital projector broke down 15 minutes before movie ended. No refund.⇶
TheobromineAddict
⇶ Corporate policy: "No refunds after first 30 minutes of movie." Besides which, Dune 2021 sucks compared to Dune 1984.
fdr2104
‘That’s like… your opinion, man’.
PartaVictoriisPax
I found the lack of Pug disturbing.
eggmuffin
There is no way to cover the material in one film. Not without an hour's worth of exposition and drastic departures from just that story.
kaiserdas19
Well yeah, it’s the first half of the first book.
Woodcastle
Let me rephrase. Barely touched on the first half of the book.
kaiserdas19
Fair lol
Spaceman292
Well if you try to do the whole book it turns into a biiiig messssss
CrimsonLobo
Yeah. Was surprised when the credits rolled and I was sat there thinking 'we never even got to see inside a single sietch'
ThisIsPelicanECHO419isAnybodyReadinMe
In my 474p copy, p237(50%) is Paul & Jessica crash landing the ornithopter. p282(59%) is when they enter the sietch. p297(63%) Jamis death
kaiserdas19
ThisIsPelicanECHO419isAnybodyReadinMe
Seems about right for a movie covering the first half
PerpetuityPhoto
Word is that the second movie is supposed to be the second half AND God Emperor.
ThisIsPelicanECHO419isAnybodyReadinMe
Definitely not. Skip Messiah and Children altogether to jump 3500yrs into the future, while also wrapping up the 2nd half of book 1??
Margleblargle
Oof... why I'll take a 5 movie dune
fencer1964
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TheDayTheBrainStoodStill
Nope - Villeneuve said he wants movie 2 to be the second half of Dune, and if they let him make movie 3 it'll be Dune Messiah.
PoggersM
Which is good! So many book-to-movie are ruined because they try to put everything into 1 movie when it should be many or a series.
fencer1964
Should have been a limited series in the first place. 6-8 1-h episodes minimum.
Margleblargle
I was just saying I'd take a 5 movie dune, series dont get th budget many times
secretdpp
The 2000s mini series reigns supreme. Though the 2021 one does finally do my boy Idaho proper justice on his end
manamongstyou
I saw the movie when I was a kid before I read the books. After I read them I was shocked Idaho didn't get more focus considering.
Snarkoleptic
It looks so cheap compared to the new one I really have to wait for the second one to be certain, but there's just no comparison.
secretdpp
It's a lil cheap in some of the budget. It's a 2000 SciFi channel production. But is pretty solid and free on youtube
Reaperkul
thank you watched it and was very confused and liked the visuals but had no clue what was going on half the time.
Manae
It needs a tagline of "Don't worry, this all will pay off in part 2. And Dune Messiah. And Children of Dune. And God Emperor of Dune..."
Margleblargle
Yeah I had to explain some to my better half a couple times, like pause the movie and be like .. well everyone is plotting
Reddiance1
The lighting in new Dune is just too dark. That ruined it for me. Also transitioning from very dark to very bright is blinding.
TheSecondPiewackit
Blinding was the point.
TakeTheStairs
the blinding is totally on purpose. thats why the fremen kept saying they had to get inside because the sun was rising. thats just Arakis
Qualtagh
I'm really surprised by this complaint; I wonder if some theaters had the light balance absolutely fucked up. The only scenes that were 1/2
Qualtagh
obscuringly dark at the 2 theaters where I saw it were the one where Mapes died and the landing of the BG ship; both seemed 100% intentional
kaoticone
I was so in love with his mom from the original dune movie. Classy.
PerthAussieMike
The movie shown in the post is a bit outdated now but, yes, the overall concept and theme of 'Dune' is mind blowing
nobodyreadsusernamesanyway
Sir Patrick Stewart holding a pug while charging into battle yelling "Long live Duke Leto" will never become outdated.
Nuttsy
They should've just had Stewart as Gurney. I don't care if they'd have to just paste old clips of him from the last film, I want the Pug!
Durahl
Just recently watched the new remake - Can't say I liked it - Story wise it was a carbon copy of the 1984 one with only little new content ¹
Durahl
warranting such a remake and the aesthetics, while not terrible, were easily being outclassed by the 1984 one.
doodoobailey
djangojazz
Cuz I speak of the promises of Leto...
TheSecondPiewackit
Because I speak.... of the Golden Path of Man...
WorkerLurker
Your rhythm has summoned Shai-Hulud long may she reign.
koitk
PJHabit
WoOH WOoh!
ThatsATwat
'Cause I speak of the Bene Gesserit of love...
plexted
'cause i speak of the Shai Hulud
gromolko
The Frenulum of Love!
fredjackson49531415
The new Dune was fine but it didnt give me the feeling that it was worth making. It did nothing special or better than the first. It was 1/
Phlindar
Just watched the original. It’s terrible. The general story is there but it’s a hard watch. Almost shut it off multiple times. Wish I had.
mcstreetz
Yeah especially towards the end it seemed rushed and the camera work was terrible. but the guild navigator scene was pretty cool.
Phlindar
Yeah at the end they just gave up and decided to read the cliff notes.
fredjackson49531415
just a basic re-telling of the story we all know. I was not reinvigorated as so many people like to say they were. 2/2
ThanatosElNyx
We all know? I guess you live in a Children of Men situation where noone has been born since the original.
fredjackson49531415
"We all know" as in Scifi fans who this movie mainly appeals to.
Mokelzwerg
I hate to agree. But I agree. It was still fun and had pretty images.
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
Nice implication that people only say they like it because they're insincere. Is it not enough to simply disagree?
fredjackson49531415
I didn't intend to imply that. I was just saying I don't think it's as great as many people are saying.
SirBillington
I found the new one to be a little bit confusing and slow. While I won't say that the original is a masterpiece, but at least they give
SirBillington
plenty of context and clarity, even if it is in the most blunt way possible.
madcatii
TheSecondPiewackit
Awww.... lil Muad Dib.
madcatii
TheSecondPiewackit
Story was great. Special Effects of the miniseries.... well this is a good showcase.
Cuptapus
Yup. I could never get into it because the effects and the obviously not real backgrounds always took me out of the show.
Housemaster
I thought this little guy was going to get annihilated by their sand compactor in that scene.
OMGamIImguringCorrectly
They whisper an awful lot for no reason at all for the first half of the movie.
stulfer
Also cause tones and volume of the voice matters since its like a special ability
pickleparty91
To signify what’s going on in their heads because there is so much plotting a lot gets unsaid
mannabananarama
I’m curious to know if you read the book. No ill will intended.
number1keeper
That bit in the tent was inaudible
Lionheart4G
Probably to establish what it is and such.
RoutemasterFlash
Yeah, these basic bitches never heard of a Cone of Silence?
Archaeologistinasuit
My fiance and I thought it was because the plot was a secret, watched the whole thing with subtitles
NSFWfrontpage2
I had a hard time enjoying the movie until I turned on subtitles. Was like night and day.
itsdarkandicantseewhatimtyping
In the books a lot of the plot development was done through certain characters thoughts and observations, the whispers were them thinking.
YoSamiteSam
I hate scenes with phone calls, because it is just the obligatory scene where one guy explains the plot to another guy but cheaper to shoot.
positiveleroy
There’s a LOT of internal dialogue in the book, and that’s traditionally been pretty difficult to portray in a visual medium.
WGG25
i had problem understanding those parts, because i tried to watch without subs
MisterLemons
Smile Gurney...
Scarecrow85
I thought it was me, but glad I'm not the only one.
eggmuffin
It's like 40% exposition. And it's also utterly mesmerizing. 15 years after watching it just once, parts of it still echo in my mind.
TheSecondPiewackit
Not the 87 one.
NSPike
Paul's mum talks almost exclusively in whispers even to other characters and it irritated me so so much
Rip42
The was only one scene I thought jessica was acted correctly. The scene with "scarface." Most other times she didn't have the reserve.
tankerofquetzals
My god, what did they do to her? She simpers through every. single. scene she's in.
TheSecondPiewackit
I think they were trying to get across that as badass as she is, she's a horrible, emotional Bene Gesserit.
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Iullabee
>unwillingly, hence the whispering - basically a separate way of talking where you have to constantly control your voice.
ColonelColon
No. That's not how The Voice works. The Voice isn't even magic, but there's no way to really show that onscreen. It's the epitome of 1)
ColonelColon
psychological understanding of your target, knowing exactly how and what to say to get them to do something after just a glance at them.
TheSecondPiewackit
That's not at all how the Voice works.
NSPike
Hmm I get that but at the same time she's supposed to have total mastery over it, right? There's a lot of (1/2)
NSPike
whisper-acting in Hollywood nowadays, I thought it was just the actress taking that approach tbh