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CaptGunpowder
Amazon has hired the literal Pinkerton company to monitor (read, intimidate) the warehouse workers.
rptoday
Bernie for Labor Secretary.
szepasszony
solidarity for ev--er!
Babybunz
10000%. No one in the ruling class will help the working class, not trump, not Biden. Worker solidarity is the ONLY way. Organize. ✊?
mancamp63
Alabama is a right to work state - does not matter
brownribbon
And companies are free to enter into contracts with unions on their own terms, one of which might be to ignore that law.
Imakethingsweird
Im still surprised that you have unions in the US. I thought you work 18h a day in inhuman conditions to protect your freedom.
erzengal
Nope. We do that to pay rent and medical bills.
WaterUnderTheRocketAppliances
Surprising to see Bezos's newspaper covering that story.
FrischeVollmilch
I was also surprised that the WP prints this Kind of article
MatthewBecker
They will pull a walmart and close the whole warehouse
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Seems there’s a lot of this “waiting for the south to do the right thing” going around.
DVSBSTrD
Always has been.
SecretAgentSuperBooger
Jackpot123
It's true, even jobs with education are becoming more strict and laying down specific guidelines for pay and raises
JockoV
No Jabba no bargain!
Audasity
we need unions again, big time. we are going through the exact same thing as they did when unions first started
ClumsyLeftistWhoDropsThings
In my previous job, security, we unionized less than 2 years before I quit. Short term? Oh boy the union folk were idiots ... But goddamn >
FrolickingFrolicking
Union: idiots who work in your interests. No Union: idiots working AGAINST your interests. First one is better
ClumsyLeftistWhoDropsThings
Is it fucking important to have a union in place! Having protections in place is so reassuring. Short term, unions may suck, long term A+++
smitherseric
I work in the steel industry. All the USW seems to do is fight for lazy do nothings.
FrolickingFrolicking
OK so you think that’s worse than being completely subject to wealthy CEO’s dominating them?
brownribbon
Worked in a USW glass factory. Yep.
FrolickingFrolicking
Funny how there’s so much of this hatred and FUD about unions. Zero criticism of the powerful ultra-wealthy executives who do nothing
fireratbiker
The only way to fight corporate greed. Our government certainly won’t do it for us. They are owned purchased and paid for by corporate $.
TheSoundOfOneThousandButtholesClenching
Ah yes. Back when I was at Home Depot they had a whole video dedicated to keeping employees from seeing the benefits of joining a union
epyonwing
People that are anti union have never worked hard and had someone shit on them for it.
evildadunit
People who hate unions have witnessed abuses in the past, and want to bring them back
brownribbon
Wrong. Source: me.
evildadunit
read slower I think we agree
Jiminatori
The idea even that an union is illegal is so weird. Why would it be illegal for workers to get together and talk about their needs
MaidAndCorsetGuy
Labor together strong.
AmattikKittama
As a member of a UNION DO IT
SenseiTheDefender
That should make for some awkward dinner table conversations with their uncle-daddy in Alabama.
ImaginativeCoolName
Oh so now it’s uncomfortable, it always has been just not to idiot parents. Why is it always bad if the tables turn ever so slightly?
akbrewer
You listen here nephson, we toil til we die in this house
Cthulily
restingbitchfaceisjustmyface
Everyone deserves a livable, working wage. Billionaire CEOs should care more about their workers than their second yacht!
restingbitchfaceisjustmyface
Who downvotes a livable wage?!
FrolickingFrolicking
https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/
waitwasthatreal
Amazon sets their minimum wage at 15....
maximilianfragglebottom
... since last month, because workers are threatening to unionize
wakar1ma5en
The best president that never was
boredAgain2day
I hope it works for them. Everyone should get a fair wage and treated with decency.
TheGracefulDead
The anti-union training vid all management has to watch every year: https://youtu.be/AQeGBHxIyHw
Finduses
Warning sign of organizing is an absolutely totalitarian point of view, it is disgusting, also how is discussing a living wage a warning
Finduses
Sign? Also the "associates" aka workers, are always mentioned last as "customers, shareholders AND associates" they are most definetly
Finduses
Stapled on that sentence"
FreeRangeHuman
If you watch this is does help you understand the position. A union Amazon WH would probably get less $ hour and perform worse.
TheGracefulDead
They make min. $15/hour but everyone makes that even if you have special skills like LTOS
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
They only make "less" b/c companies will offer the nonunnon employees higher wages to breed discontent. As for performance, that's 1/
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
completely measurable and "lower" probably means "not sweatshop speed" but still my contract has performance goals with raises tied to it.
Finduses
Workers are humans not machines, they deserve liveable wages for humane work.
slinkiisu
ELI5. What's the downside of unionisation
oldselmersaxguy1
https://mkorostoff.github.io/1-pixel-wealth/
pierrelaplace
Bezos can shut down that warehouse in the blink of an eye and he won't even notice the blip in his fortune.
TedTheMan
People unionizing to have more voice is great. Immoral people taking control of the union after it is formed is the problem.
szepasszony
At least with a union, you get a vote and workers can vote corrupt people out. Not so for your owner, boss, or CEO.
The701
That could be broadly applied: "Immoral people taking control of is the problem."
crzyfkr505
Mishandling of union dues is one of the biggest problems with unions. Its a lot of money to manage and corrupts even those with good intent
StarscreamAndHutch
Like police unions?
Counterfit
Those are more like fraternal organizations than actual unions
Totallyscrewedinaustin
FrolickingFrolicking
People working warehouse labor is different than above-the-law thugs with guns/grenades, assaulting the public, murder with immunity
StarscreamAndHutch
Agreed, but it’s still a question of quality of leadership.
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nycterelis
You say this, but I'll raise you police unions. Unions are a weapon. The person wielding the weapon determines how much good they'll do.
GrandProtectorDark
Your phrasis is shit but your point id true
Grendelsgrin
I dont agree with your phrasing. It is accurate, but easily misunderstood.
JohnSmithterms
Amazon hired pinkertons to spy on them - https://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-pinkerton-spies-worker-labor-unions-2020-11?r=US&IR=T
TheGreatAndPowerfulSage
Not spies, observers.
brownribbon
I’m okay with that.
JohnSmithterms
You sound like you might be a bit of a cunt.
brownribbon
I sure am.
DVSBSTrD
All workers have the right to unionize!
lyrewyn
Water has the right to un-ionize.
Strangedays2026
Don't tell my mom, she thinks the only outcome of unions is people like Hoffa, and the mob.
DVSBSTrD
And what's the outcome of capitalism?
TrialOrc
People like Hoffa, and the mob
bigwetdog
If IT unionized they'd rule the world.
thetof91
Fun fact in Denmark we don’t have a minimum pay by the law, it is just because of unions we have good minimum pay.
azgrak
Worked oil fields in CO for years. Even the mention of union meant immediate termination. Even, hey that guy said union, both fired.
AccountCreatedToUpvoteDogs
Totally illegal but I believe that it happens
Ninjanakki
I would set the oil field on fire before firing me thou.
DVSBSTrD
So nobody in CO has guns?
gunnexx
Hahaha tell that to the gaming industry
DooksandPooks
Always check how rich a person is that opposes unions.
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Shitheid
That's why there are no on site butchers. Tried to unionize, now there's a wall of prepackaged factory food
pancreas
that seems like it should be illegal.
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KileyBarker
A fine just means it's only illegal for those that can't afford to pay it.
pollomagnifico
Why? The idea of a union is that an organization of skilled workers can hold power over those who employ them by being irreplaceable enmasse