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delecti
Miles got a look on his face like Tucker Carlson.
windchester576
It’s 2364 and O’Brian has that look of “what the hell is old leather?”
madjackwastaken
This also applies to depression.
ComradeZoidberg
It’s what’s so insidious about it.
abbie30000
Oh that hit a little toooooo close to home!
chaoticburn
As someone who has battled rage issues my whole life, this is perfect.
onecowboytoo
I like to rage against the machine and the dying of the light.
houndrogerson42
If anyone is interested, this episode is titled The Wounded, in season 4.
Sneemaster
Turbolibros
BabyFarkMcGeeZax
What episode?
Withallduerespect
Season 1, Episode 7
Thanks!
PlankTableGo
Trust Data over Lore
gadaboutpoet
Always
jethroismaxbaer5772
Now ask Picard about his feelings towards the Borg.
mdzmdz
Damn Cardies
KilliK69
That's the Picard I know.
Septcanmat
The crappy writing for Discovery and Picard must have Gene Roddenberry spinning so fast in his grave he could power a warp engine.
SuperGeniusPS
AndrewBuggy
I'm surprised there isn't a Q of people waiting to take him on.
geoffreyfourmyle
That photo editing is damned skillful!
StarkRG
I think O'Brien's line from this episode is so much stronger: "It's not you I hate, Cardassian, I hate what I became because of you."
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
Being angry all the time gives you wrinkles like old leather.
MightyIink
Star Trek used to have the best writers in the industry, I can't believe what the newer shows have become...
Batmannequin
I don't hate YOU, Cardassian, I hate what I became because of you
CrazedDrifter
The soldier boy to the war has gone. In the ranks of death you'll find him.
Frimmel
"The minstrel lad to the war has gone" in this episode. Though I think the traditional version is "minstrel boy."
thenewteddy
good ole captain maxwell. poor guy. done in by his obsessions.
shug12
Maxwell was right about the Cardassians preparing for war though, Picard calls out the Cardassian at the end of the episode
Maxwell did the wrong thing because he was right. I always wonder how beside himself Maxwell got when the Cardassians started another war.
yup. I think of those trying to fight against the creeping authorianism of certain sitting presidents and how some are sadly making it worse
subduedreader
He just went about it in the completely wrong way.
aye, he was, and look what happened in DS9. Maxwell went about it wrong though. Truly a lesson for modern times.
revenantape
SubtleOrc
TakNoPants
If only the new show was anything like the old
spiffylookingnerfherder
I thought Discovery hit it's stride in season 2.
DefinitelyNOTDrEvil
Goddamn Orville was closer...and it's canceled. Fucking shit man...
Stargrave3000
That's the advice I need after watching ST: Picard.
That you need or that the writers of Picard need?
Me. The writers need a kick in the groin.
BadRoleModel
LookWhatTheyveDoneToMyBoy.JPEG
lordasshat
trigaranus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAUIHBAxbXY "Dat is Kaffee, echt jetzt."
putcleverusernamehere
Turns out it was gas, not anger
Silved
Dammit every time I see that gif I start giggling for like 20 minutes.
AdonesMr
Actually me right now
Why do you think I'm browsing Imgur?
theimgurappsucksballs
The little one at the end completes it
sombrerohorsewagon
SyeedAli
Like an old leather couch in summer.
JarethCutestory
FromTheBeyond
One of my favorite episodes. “It smells musty in here - like a bureaucrat’s office.” Good stuff.
HeadJamistan
I am a hardcore trek nerd, but I can't remember the context of this one. Can I get some help?
From "The Wounded." Picard is speaking of O'Brien's former Captain. Terrific episode. "The minstrel lad to the war is gone."
KierCalhen
I think it was related my Myles and the cardasians. Captain maxwell maybe.
Thank you for that. I had an inkling it was Kardashians.
WarWizardPhoenix
They are a consistent source of frustration/anger
Brewdoc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wounded_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)?wprov=sfti1
KnifeKnut
Thank you. I suspect this applies to other states of mind also.
mikeymikec
This ST nerd got there before me.
v
virgil592
Capt. Picard hit the nail on the head. Sometimes, one needs a break from being angry.
LoftheDesert
"I'm angry!" "That must be exhausting"
RanchoCucamonga
What he said applies to any other negative emotion too
kmikl
Forgiveness is the act of releasing someone from your anger: it's not an act of meekness, it's one of self-affirmation and grace.
DezdaNova767
As someone who has dealt with anger issues there whole life, yes
quzar
It was so nice how the last time we saw him he finally joined in on the staff poker game. Wonderful bit of character development.
"Five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit"
rbudrick
Picard had huge reasons to be angry. Actual reasons.
TheSecondPiewackit
I turned anger into a zen practice. Anger gets shit done.
Tyaldan
Works for all emotions. The hardest thing to let go through therapy was the comfort not caring gave me. Fuck its so hard to care about stuff
Yeah, take a few moments to be pissed off instead.
Noismute
But hooowwwwww
Jonesso
technically it's the whriter who hit the nail on the head
shitheadtookmyname
Yeah but oppressed people don't get a break so it's irresponsible and fragile for their allies to take a break
(this is where the phrase "white fragility" comes from: white people being so privileged in the USA that the are like"oh I'm tired of
Voluntarily feeling this way, so I'll stop and go back to my regularly scheduled programming"
I'm rich and white and used to be like "the news is so depressing I'm not even going to read it anymore"
Then I realized that wasn't helping my friends for me to be ignorant of what hurts them in the world
FlashyBeige
You can be fully engaged in solving problems without internalizing a ton of anger over it.
This wasn't about oppressed people... it was about people carrying grudges after the war with the Cardassians was over.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Wounded_(episode)
CouldntCakeLess
I like Star Wars.
Nice one! ?
I love helmets.
MissivesFromTheTower
You have the ring. And I see your Swartz it's as big as mine. Now, let's see how well you handle it.
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
Blackranger3d
Heathens. The lot of you!
goflyblind
This is galaxy quest nerd
or0b0ur0s
Might as well write "I like ice cream" in a post about sandwiches. They really aren't comparable, for good or ill.
bloodtaker3
*that's the joke
Superfloofthundercat
I like peanuts
PoorSucker
Kyen155
snooch2thegouch
ButterfaceTaintClown
this reminds me of the episode when Nicholas Cage guest stars as Data's brother v
friendsofsandwiches
well, when your choices are being angry, or scared... which one gives you more 'control'? '
ThreeDimesDown
You could be smart, one way or another.
CaptianCripL
That's actually a highly debatable choice still
TimTheEnchanter01
Being educated... but that takes time, effort and humility. Angers easier in the short term.
illegalacorn
If you're not angry, you're not educated about the things that will make you angry. I think you mean 'distanced' when you say educated.
PopEyeCryToTheSky
Just enchant me already!
?
AmbroseGudmaker
Education doesn't stop the fight or flight response kicking in, you still get scared or angry, it just helps you rein it in
Foisted
Not just control but anger also gives you more social prestige than fear. It’s a vicious cycle for everyone involved
harambedaycare
That's why it's a trap. Then we leave the danger behind and take the pattern of behaviour with us. Then we destroy what is good with old 1/
patterns that used to protect us but now destroy everything we love. *Source: lost family to anger.
vinny8boberano
Neither. Anger is a secondary emotion caused by fear. You are only choosing between fear and violent fear in your question.
Acceptance
Cackfog
Compassion
Your choices are never 'being angry or scared'.
notyourusualsaturdaynight
Arousal?
qtRaven
Oh Pennywise-sama...
thatsbadmmkay
Weird sex stuff explained.
keykoh
HomWapko
Tapception
fool, you can’t control your arousal, your arousal controls YOU!
thesauceisboss
Tortfeas0r
thesved
Idk I personally go with scared because it minimizes creating more problems and more conflict. Take a beat, reset... that's me anyway.
CakeTerrorizer
Why are those your only choices?
gottodiehappy
They are almost the same chemical in our brain, so when we do have large fears, turning it into anger is natural- like, to fight off wolves
MRnBW
I think they're talking only about situations where something would make someone feel scared. Instead of embracing that, opting for outrage.
Rijtjeshuis
Maladaptive learned behaviours.
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Surely fear is a supremely adaptive behaviour? Undue fear is maladaptive sure, but can’t it result in better results, based on limited info?
Assume ‘all snakes are poisonous’, for example, is adaptive fear, given that you aren’t an expert on potential toxicity of various snakes 1/
Anyone who doesn’t hold that false belief, is leaving themselves more open to being bitten, unbeknownst to them, by a venomous snake 2/
I didn't mean evolutionarily, but socially and individually. Boys are often thaught that anger is more appropriate than fear or sadness.
Are you saying that the cakes have any other option when they hear you coming???
SeaSlugginit
When your life is dedicated to just staying alive those are your options
The scared usually don't make it as well, the angry ones fight
When your world is shit, should you choose to be happy about it? Your only responsible choice is to fix it.
kirbfucius
Which doesn't require constant anger or fear.
LuckyBrett
You're implying emotions are logical. That's why they're emotions, bruv.
I'm implying that there are more emotional options than anger or fear, especially when addressing the statement of change for the better.
PerfectlyPanda
Assuming you have the choice to fix it. Often that's true and people don't make that choice, but it gets more complicated sometimes.
Sure, but the statement was to work towards change for the better. Prolonged anger and fear do not fuel positive change for long.
delecti
Miles got a look on his face like Tucker Carlson.
windchester576
It’s 2364 and O’Brian has that look of “what the hell is old leather?”
madjackwastaken
This also applies to depression.
ComradeZoidberg
It’s what’s so insidious about it.
abbie30000
Oh that hit a little toooooo close to home!
chaoticburn
As someone who has battled rage issues my whole life, this is perfect.
onecowboytoo
I like to rage against the machine and the dying of the light.
houndrogerson42
If anyone is interested, this episode is titled The Wounded, in season 4.
Sneemaster
Turbolibros
BabyFarkMcGeeZax
What episode?
Withallduerespect
Season 1, Episode 7
BabyFarkMcGeeZax
Thanks!
PlankTableGo
Trust Data over Lore
gadaboutpoet
Always
jethroismaxbaer5772
Now ask Picard about his feelings towards the Borg.
mdzmdz
Damn Cardies
KilliK69
That's the Picard I know.
Septcanmat
The crappy writing for Discovery and Picard must have Gene Roddenberry spinning so fast in his grave he could power a warp engine.
SuperGeniusPS
AndrewBuggy
I'm surprised there isn't a Q of people waiting to take him on.
SuperGeniusPS
geoffreyfourmyle
That photo editing is damned skillful!
StarkRG
I think O'Brien's line from this episode is so much stronger: "It's not you I hate, Cardassian, I hate what I became because of you."
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
Being angry all the time gives you wrinkles like old leather.
MightyIink
Star Trek used to have the best writers in the industry, I can't believe what the newer shows have become...
Batmannequin
I don't hate YOU, Cardassian, I hate what I became because of you
CrazedDrifter
The soldier boy to the war has gone. In the ranks of death you'll find him.
Frimmel
"The minstrel lad to the war has gone" in this episode. Though I think the traditional version is "minstrel boy."
thenewteddy
good ole captain maxwell. poor guy. done in by his obsessions.
shug12
Maxwell was right about the Cardassians preparing for war though, Picard calls out the Cardassian at the end of the episode
Frimmel
Maxwell did the wrong thing because he was right. I always wonder how beside himself Maxwell got when the Cardassians started another war.
thenewteddy
yup. I think of those trying to fight against the creeping authorianism of certain sitting presidents and how some are sadly making it worse
subduedreader
He just went about it in the completely wrong way.
thenewteddy
aye, he was, and look what happened in DS9. Maxwell went about it wrong though. Truly a lesson for modern times.
revenantape
SubtleOrc
TakNoPants
If only the new show was anything like the old
spiffylookingnerfherder
I thought Discovery hit it's stride in season 2.
DefinitelyNOTDrEvil
Goddamn Orville was closer...and it's canceled. Fucking shit man...
Stargrave3000
That's the advice I need after watching ST: Picard.
Septcanmat
That you need or that the writers of Picard need?
Stargrave3000
Me. The writers need a kick in the groin.
BadRoleModel
LookWhatTheyveDoneToMyBoy.JPEG
lordasshat
trigaranus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAUIHBAxbXY "Dat is Kaffee, echt jetzt."
putcleverusernamehere
Turns out it was gas, not anger
Silved
Dammit every time I see that gif I start giggling for like 20 minutes.
AdonesMr
Actually me right now
AdonesMr
Why do you think I'm browsing Imgur?
theimgurappsucksballs
The little one at the end completes it
sombrerohorsewagon
SyeedAli
Like an old leather couch in summer.
JarethCutestory
lordasshat
FromTheBeyond
One of my favorite episodes. “It smells musty in here - like a bureaucrat’s office.” Good stuff.
HeadJamistan
I am a hardcore trek nerd, but I can't remember the context of this one. Can I get some help?
Frimmel
From "The Wounded." Picard is speaking of O'Brien's former Captain. Terrific episode. "The minstrel lad to the war is gone."
KierCalhen
I think it was related my Myles and the cardasians. Captain maxwell maybe.
HeadJamistan
Thank you for that. I had an inkling it was Kardashians.
WarWizardPhoenix
They are a consistent source of frustration/anger
Brewdoc
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wounded_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)?wprov=sfti1
KnifeKnut
Thank you. I suspect this applies to other states of mind also.
mikeymikec
This ST nerd got there before me.
Brewdoc
virgil592
Capt. Picard hit the nail on the head. Sometimes, one needs a break from being angry.
LoftheDesert
"I'm angry!" "That must be exhausting"
RanchoCucamonga
What he said applies to any other negative emotion too
kmikl
Forgiveness is the act of releasing someone from your anger: it's not an act of meekness, it's one of self-affirmation and grace.
DezdaNova767
As someone who has dealt with anger issues there whole life, yes
quzar
It was so nice how the last time we saw him he finally joined in on the staff poker game. Wonderful bit of character development.
Batmannequin
"Five-card stud, nothing wild... and the sky's the limit"
rbudrick
Picard had huge reasons to be angry. Actual reasons.
TheSecondPiewackit
I turned anger into a zen practice. Anger gets shit done.
Tyaldan
Works for all emotions. The hardest thing to let go through therapy was the comfort not caring gave me. Fuck its so hard to care about stuff
onecowboytoo
Yeah, take a few moments to be pissed off instead.
Noismute
But hooowwwwww
Jonesso
technically it's the whriter who hit the nail on the head
shitheadtookmyname
Yeah but oppressed people don't get a break so it's irresponsible and fragile for their allies to take a break
shitheadtookmyname
(this is where the phrase "white fragility" comes from: white people being so privileged in the USA that the are like"oh I'm tired of
shitheadtookmyname
Voluntarily feeling this way, so I'll stop and go back to my regularly scheduled programming"
shitheadtookmyname
I'm rich and white and used to be like "the news is so depressing I'm not even going to read it anymore"
shitheadtookmyname
Then I realized that wasn't helping my friends for me to be ignorant of what hurts them in the world
FlashyBeige
You can be fully engaged in solving problems without internalizing a ton of anger over it.
kmikl
This wasn't about oppressed people... it was about people carrying grudges after the war with the Cardassians was over.
kmikl
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/The_Wounded_(episode)
CouldntCakeLess
I like Star Wars.
AdonesMr
Nice one! ?
Rayplays
I love helmets.
lordasshat
MissivesFromTheTower
lordasshat
You have the ring. And I see your Swartz it's as big as mine. Now, let's see how well you handle it.
TheRealGeorgeMcfly
Blackranger3d
Heathens. The lot of you!
goflyblind
trumpypumpyinyourrumpy
This is galaxy quest nerd
or0b0ur0s
Might as well write "I like ice cream" in a post about sandwiches. They really aren't comparable, for good or ill.
bloodtaker3
*that's the joke
Superfloofthundercat
I like peanuts
PoorSucker
Kyen155
snooch2thegouch
ButterfaceTaintClown
this reminds me of the episode when Nicholas Cage guest stars as Data's brother
v
PoorSucker
friendsofsandwiches
well, when your choices are being angry, or scared... which one gives you more 'control'? '
ThreeDimesDown
You could be smart, one way or another.
CaptianCripL
That's actually a highly debatable choice still
TimTheEnchanter01
Being educated... but that takes time, effort and humility. Angers easier in the short term.
illegalacorn
If you're not angry, you're not educated about the things that will make you angry. I think you mean 'distanced' when you say educated.
PopEyeCryToTheSky
Just enchant me already!
TimTheEnchanter01
?
AmbroseGudmaker
Education doesn't stop the fight or flight response kicking in, you still get scared or angry, it just helps you rein it in
Foisted
Not just control but anger also gives you more social prestige than fear. It’s a vicious cycle for everyone involved
harambedaycare
That's why it's a trap. Then we leave the danger behind and take the pattern of behaviour with us. Then we destroy what is good with old 1/
harambedaycare
patterns that used to protect us but now destroy everything we love. *Source: lost family to anger.
vinny8boberano
Neither. Anger is a secondary emotion caused by fear. You are only choosing between fear and violent fear in your question.
AdonesMr
Acceptance
Cackfog
Compassion
quzar
Your choices are never 'being angry or scared'.
notyourusualsaturdaynight
Arousal?
qtRaven
Oh Pennywise-sama...
thatsbadmmkay
Weird sex stuff explained.
keykoh
HomWapko
Tapception
fool, you can’t control your arousal, your arousal controls YOU!
thesauceisboss
Tortfeas0r
thesved
Idk I personally go with scared because it minimizes creating more problems and more conflict. Take a beat, reset... that's me anyway.
CakeTerrorizer
Why are those your only choices?
gottodiehappy
They are almost the same chemical in our brain, so when we do have large fears, turning it into anger is natural- like, to fight off wolves
MRnBW
I think they're talking only about situations where something would make someone feel scared. Instead of embracing that, opting for outrage.
Rijtjeshuis
Maladaptive learned behaviours.
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Surely fear is a supremely adaptive behaviour? Undue fear is maladaptive sure, but can’t it result in better results, based on limited info?
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Assume ‘all snakes are poisonous’, for example, is adaptive fear, given that you aren’t an expert on potential toxicity of various snakes 1/
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Anyone who doesn’t hold that false belief, is leaving themselves more open to being bitten, unbeknownst to them, by a venomous snake 2/
Rijtjeshuis
I didn't mean evolutionarily, but socially and individually. Boys are often thaught that anger is more appropriate than fear or sadness.
TheEmeraldProphylactic
Are you saying that the cakes have any other option when they hear you coming???
SeaSlugginit
When your life is dedicated to just staying alive those are your options
SeaSlugginit
The scared usually don't make it as well, the angry ones fight
shitheadtookmyname
When your world is shit, should you choose to be happy about it? Your only responsible choice is to fix it.
kirbfucius
Which doesn't require constant anger or fear.
LuckyBrett
You're implying emotions are logical. That's why they're emotions, bruv.
kirbfucius
I'm implying that there are more emotional options than anger or fear, especially when addressing the statement of change for the better.
PerfectlyPanda
Assuming you have the choice to fix it. Often that's true and people don't make that choice, but it gets more complicated sometimes.
kirbfucius
Sure, but the statement was to work towards change for the better. Prolonged anger and fear do not fuel positive change for long.