NotYourFamMate
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May 13, 2018 6:46 PM
NotYourFamMate
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Grunwald
All cool and stuff until one of your bro’s decides to shit in your air supply pod as ‘just a prank bro
asa1967
They've had these since the 50s or 60s, its just that those worked by a 2-stroke engine driving a pump to push air down, which was.... bad
samoflanger
Just in time to see the end of the sea.
jugend
TheBurritoConfederacy
Can you get the bends from a 40-ft dive?
farfarawaysaway
Depth and time determine your risk, but mostly no.
PrincessSugarTits
It's all fun and games until you get entangled in stuff
jlw7681
How my dad scuba dived growing up
shadowforcey
Leonardo divinci came up with this idea. Copyright infringement much?
NekoMiko06
He'a been ded for centuries, long past most copyright or patent laws. It'd be public domain by now.
shadowforcey
Sarcasm
MechGryph
Did Divinci invent that?
deldobaggins
Certain things are not meant to be easy.
xenobite
Think I'll stick to snorkeling
ImProbablyJoking
Then your ahole buddies fart in to the intake.
ForestLibrarian
Isn't this basically the same as Snuba? Which has been around forever?
ASneakyTurtle
It’s all fun and games until you kink the air hoes
kisselFL
It's hard to kink an air hose with 80 psi in it.
Havoc2617
This is not new. This is called SNUBA diving (Surface Neutralized Underwater Breathing Apparatus). Been around for years.
Cucumberclouds
I know zero about diving but I'd be scared of the cord getting caught on a rock. Neat idea, lil bit apprehensive about practicalities
flatbrainactivist
Then you just swim to the surface. You are not very deep
EelBowelProbing
Isn't sNuba incredibly close to this already?
unmuted
a long hose?!! no thanks? I’ll wait for the wireless version..
TheMostSolidSnake
Damn you...
SkillerPenguin
S C U B A
RichardHanna
I got it!
willtarax
This isnt new technology... I work in the SCUBA industry, and we sell something very similar.
JPhDaigle
You already live with the wireless version. You just can't take it in water though
Alphonsevaher
I bring you the revolutionary and copyrighted design of.. THE LUNG!
BlackStealth08
Oxygen Tanks.
SkyPaw
Hookah diving not new
OnePotatoTwoPotatoThreePotatoFloor
killernerd
Every time i see these "x could change y forever" ads it's always some gimmicky shit that's BS most of the time.
xizar
So it's just a bathysphere without the big ball around you?
xXWarfairXx
*frantically Googles thalassophobia*
3nd3rwiggin
Been a SCUBA diver for many years, no thank you.
OtterlyMagnificent
I'll stick to a tank on my back, thankyverymuch
atesomebadfugu
pulmonary barotrauma.. that's why a novice using these is scary.
SithElephant
Pulmonary barotrauma is overblown.
kamikazekitten
What you did there ... I see it.
atesomebadfugu
heheh..
MartinD35
Stay at snorkeling depth and don't go where you could get tangled. Don't be a dip shit and you'll be ok. I snorkel & this looks fun.
atesomebadfugu
ok..
Jawesome19
Explain
CKOD
Hold your breath when you go up, beause youre a scrub, and are using some kickstarter BS like this without training = wrecked lungs.
billysing
It's a medical condition caused by air expanding and rupturing the lungs.
SpoonfulOfMoon
the litter air-sacs in the lungs where gas exchange happens basically explode leading to complications
fuckbeans
That's only on a VERY rapid ascent at over 2m/s. You could argue that that inflatables violate that, but at normal human pace? Nah.
SpoonfulOfMoon
what you're describing i think is known as the bends or Decompression sickness which is a total different kettle of fish
atesomebadfugu
wrong. add panic to a untrained diver - pop.
Koravel34
This is just Snuba. It's not new.
maosanchez
I’m scared of the ocean, there I said it
OnePotatoTwoPotatoThreePotatoFloor
This isn't new, it's called hookah diving. Long hose(s) attached to a floating air compressor.
DeusexNihilo
But...But it will change diving forever...
azgrak
These are really common with boat owners. Allows you to scrape the hull without an expensive haul out.
mwoodman
Older than that. https://s.hswstatic.com/gif/diving-bell-3.jpg
Oseirus
I was gonna say, I did this exact thing 20+ years ago as a kid. The device itself may be new, but the idea isn't original at all.
OtterlyMagnificent
The original idea also doesn't have a big open air inlet sucking in boat-fumes and bird-shit, and water. It has a tank.
OnePotatoTwoPotatoThreePotatoFloor
How'd that air+exhaust taste?
Oseirus
To clarify: the concept of an air supply on a raft with a long tube for the diver is not a new idea. I had a normal air tank when I did it.
aslenderman
As someone that has done a class on diving almost 10 years ago, this looks way more dangerous then simply carrying a tank of compressed air.
OnePotatoTwoPotatoThreePotatoFloor
Most hookah systems work like any old air compressor. Still has a pressure tank attached as a reservoir, like a pony bottle size or bigger
kisselFL
Mine just had a diaphragm compressor on it. No tank.
Remmon1
The big safety advantage is that it's a 30 or 40 foot hose. There's no risk of diving too deep with this like there is with a tank.
atesomebadfugu
yeah, no. untrained divers love to hold their breath. something goes wrong and they panic and kick to the surface - lungs go pop.
insongwhang
And how is the batterylife on that thing?
TheHeero
Well I mean when it runs out you will know.
kisselFL
I've used a gas powered one. It'll run for 5+ hours on a tank of gas.
insongwhang
Neat!
semiawake
I'm dive instructor and see so many problems with this thing,
cheshireluie
SNUBA is already a thing, this just makes it easier. It's not as dangerous as you make it out to be. It has limitations that SCUBA doesn't.
fastfire57
And they will breath hold when they come up and it's all over.
atesomebadfugu
precisely.
TomahawkJackson
/3 ...and the mfr has been in the industry for 38 years already... HOW DID YOU MISS ALL THAT?
semiawake
Does anyone outside of the south African diamond mining industry still use hookah? There safety record ain't to great
TomahawkJackson
Not a great one if you missed: Hookah Diving being a thing for 40 years; the 60 minute run time; The underwater battery alarm; /1
CrispyMammoth
Hi dive instructor, I'm imgurian
kisselFL
Been using a Brownie for years for lobster season in the keys. No issues.
burtr0n2point0
ELI5?
awesomeflyingunicorn
I am not a dive instructor and saw so many problems..
ThomasThundersword
as someone who trusts no one, i can see issues with it. but also potential.
krennnkalis
Yeah... I'm not but I have dove into he past. The worries about getting tangled up or caught in kelp or what have you.
MartinD35
Just don't go deep. Stay where you won't tangle. I snorkel & mostly stay at the top. With this you can stay down longer & explore.
ssttyygg
I'm not a dive instructor but can see issues. Don't have to dive too deep and come up quick to have bad things happens.
Displicentlickeroflittlethings
Loosing job?
Displicentlickeroflittlethings
Sory my engrish no gud
shitfartgambleloser
Looser
WhattaMattahYou
My Brother is an industrial diver; they have a similar rig, but they also have a tender for the air and they also carry a pony bottle.
LizzyMcGuire
They also go through some of the most rigorous training and are very experienced. I'm not worried about him
semiawake
Hey man, I'm also a surface supplied commercial diver. This isn't really that similar to what ur brother uses, I hope ask him
LizzyMcGuire
Preach
TomahawkJackson
/2 The 130 minute NDL at 12m; The 3h battery recharge (SIT) time; the 89 minute NDL on a repeat dive from Group K + 3h SIT (Group E), etc.
cptwott
as a diver I agree. This should be used in depths down to 5m or so.
birchi
Honest question, please explain.
Katzizbetter
My father with no formation went deaf by not respecting the adaptation time to underwater pressure. Simple mistake, life wrecker.
avastmehearty
I almost popped an eardrum, we were doing a beach dive and my ear would not clear, we went down so slowly my ear filled with fluid instead
MAYORofTITTYciti
That's more about taking the time to equalize pressure, it isn't necessarily an issue with only this device 1/2
MAYORofTITTYciti
The same thing can happen with regular scuba.
TheHeero
The hose could also wrap itself around your neck and choke you.
Piepersonsmom
Lol
semiawake
Breathable ascent can lead to lung rupture, a rapid ascent can lead to lung damage and/or bends even at shallow depths. Poor umbilical mana
farfarawaysaway
At 40 ft you don't need a decompression stop. Bends don't happen at shallow depth unless you're down for half a day at least.
ThomasThundersword
i see your points, though most of them are user-error problems which could effect normal diving to. not problems with the device itself.
Piepersonsmom
That’s a little over one atmosphere. I say bullshit.
farfarawaysaway
At 40 ft you don't need a decompression stop unless you're down for over half a day.
fuckbeans
You could, fathomably, encounter a low-depth danger without an emergency supply of air at the ready.
semiawake
100%
fuckbeans
And with, lets say, 2% of the living population doing this, even at their smartest, would easily succumb to death.
IllegalDuckling
can lead to not being able to continue casting the tame surroundings spell, leading to being torn apart by the local aquatic life.
Zreen
"She's my friend too!"
alabastor
Couldn't you just pull off the mouthpiece and breathe all your air out before ascending?
Biffa90
On a safe ascent no need to remove mouth piece just exhale all the way but if people come to this from snorkling they won't be used to thag
LizzyMcGuire
They won’t know any better. Also diving down &up multiple times could cause issues with offgassing
woodwraith
It's the gas charged in your blood vessels, not just your lungs that causes problems
RevonsRutabaga
Even with the length of this hose?
semiawake
Poor umbilical management can lead to poor air supply or disrupted air supply with no bail out for survival. Lack of proper air filtration
farfarawaysaway
Most divers don't have a bail bottle, and at 40 ft you can just surface.
farfarawaysaway
Most divers don't keep a bail bottle, and at 40 ft your can just surface.
semiawake
Can lead to gas contamination, water ingress into the air intake would be bad, battery powered means lose of air supply with no warning
TheRealGoddamnLochNessMonster
That was alot of big words that dont sound good. +1
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PickledOpinions
All this from an ascent of 40ft? I knew these things could be problems but never thought it could happen from only 40ft down.
birchi
Thank you.
Splosions
At what depth do those become issues? The hose is 40ft long. Is that deep enough?
3dartwork
And the surface device flipping over from a wave....suddenly pointing down
GoldFrieza
It's just an air supply. Is it any more dangerous than wearing scuba gear?
Painkiller1020
Perhaps the online classes covers this? I mean granted people being stupid will always cause problems.
TinyLiehon
Can lead to the Dark Side
JoshB460
I feel like you’re just throwing out words no one knows
farfarawaysaway
In open space, gas contamination is unlikely, it would be a shitty floating setup is water could damage it our it could run out of power.
Hammsammiches
These are already in use, max depth of about 15-20 feet with an instructor with you at all times.
indrada3290609
You should make one that tracks your depth and pumps the air at the right pressure
valen00
Regulator takes care of that
tyrsfavoritesword
they use full size versions of this and call it SNUBA in mexico... yes i did it. tell me how close i came to dying?
LizzyMcGuire
Right but at least with SNUBA you have trained instructors monitoring. this enables any ol Joe Schmo to hop in the water and get rekt
FinrodFelagundPrinceoftheNoldor
Technically, anyone could buy scuba gear as well; they just might have trouble refilling.
pagodazoa
I got way to freaked out on the snuba excursion and had to tell the divers to get me the fuck out
hcandotherletters
I freaked a bit first time SCUBA diving, one of my ears wouldn't adjust and it hurt. Tried swimming up but instructor stopped me thankfully
OtterlyMagnificent
I have Asthma. When I do SCUBA I have the pressure turned up a little higher to compensate for my stupid lungs. I did SNUBA with my 1/
OtterlyMagnificent
family and spent the entire hour of it hanging off the raft gasping for air. 2/2