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TheMadOnion
Let's humor the idea that global warming is fake. I don't understand why you would be against renewable energy in any capacity.
IchewDeadPPL
I remember learning about climate change in high school.
GoGoGadgetBinoculars
NorthWestOutdoorsman
illcatchthenextone
It’s a scam to sell more sunblock and shorts!
SpitfireFade
Savage
MissAsgariaFartcake
To learn astroscience you have to learn many other science. So I think she knows what she's talking about
OkramTheBarbarian
Think of climate change like earth changing warm and cold zones, move according to it, enjoy whichever temp you find comfortable.
stronomer
Katie is fierce and to the point. Always.
cptwott
This comment made me follow her.
BalognaMkV
Doubt in the specifics of climate change is ruined by nutters who think the whole thing is a conspiracy.
biggwhytey
And the silly effort to force everyone to believe it with more research gets in the way of finding solutions. The pettiness pisses me off.
CyborgScribe
I think scientists just tend to favor "more research" in general.
kamosey
She's a witch!
RoboCoonie
It's 90 fucking degrees and it's October 28th, 2019. How is #GlobalWarming a scam, exactly?
DumpoldRant
People that think scientists are pushing a "criminal scam" believe it simply because that's how they'd act in a position of power/influence.
raminagrobis
Scientists aren't in a position of power. We talk a lot about climate change but we don't really do anything about it.
SomeOneYouMayKnowOrNot
It's not the truth that matters; just the perception.
MHCII
A great clue to identify someone without scientific background is when they invoke science as a whole instead of the relevant field.
Kopar
Science illiteracy, the politicalization of sicence, and a generally insufficient public education system will doom and kill this planet.
PeteTusk
It wouldn't be as dangerous without corporations & billionaires funding disinformation campaigns to make industrial pollution (etc) easy.
AngryGroundhog
Leaders & politicians who stand in the way of climate action should be imprisoned for crimes against humanity. Just sayin’.
vowofloudness
What about the people who vote for them?
snaek
Can't really blame them. They were educated by the system put in place by those very politicians.
Greentonic
My dad was an astrophyics prof. He said the biggest lesson astronomy taught him is that we only have one place called Earth.
ThePinkestPigglet
I remember from science class that there are like 11 billion potentially habitable earth like planets in the milk way.
Greentonic
"there are like" potentially and earth...ish. In other words better stick around here for now.
lr5123
Yes and no. The Goldilocks zone around a star is a relatively common place for planets to exist, but for the most part we haven’t got a clue
lr5123
About the surface conditions of planets that exist there. The only planet we have proven to be habitable is Earth.
hitshappens
A degree in advanced science doesn't make you a master of other sciences, but it makes you more qualified to judge Peer reviewed research.
CorvusBelli
She never claimed to be an expert; he told her to learn some "actual science" and she pointed out she had already did so (hence the PhD).
hitshappens
Regardless, I am merely pointing out why her astrophysics degree makes her qualified to weigh in on climate change.
hitshappens
I don't understand why people are downvoting this. I'm addressing the root of the point here: Her PhD qualifies her to weigh in.
dijital101
Even if you don't believe in climate change you are essentially saying, "I'm okay with massive pollution". You are a Captain Planet villain.
TimeKeepsOnMoving
Ah the internet. Where you can claim anything and people will widely accept it as fact.
DoraTheDestroyer
And where you can accuse astronauts of not knowing science.
asdf4881
She's actually an astrophysicist, not an astronaut. I took one of her classes in undergrad. She knows her shit and is scary smart
DoraTheDestroyer
Ah, damn. I either misremembered or mixed it up with another one of these.
nomatta922
BOOM!
ResoluteDuck
All the best sciencing comes from dudes named RAT.
WannieTheSane
6675636b796f75
Idk why, but as soon as I see all caps used to emphasize words, I immediately think conspiracy theorist.
RexLion
It's because THEY programmed you to think that! Wake UP!!!
duckswithfedoras
I immediately think how trump types his tweets
TristanBomb
There's definitely a connection there
Atomsk
"Yes, view these SCIENCE TRUTH YouTube vids (that I made to validate myself) and EDUCATE YOURSELF". -- every idiot fanatic.
Bouhgf
Like you did not know that there is a forest in Antartica ...
ShitALLthegoodnamesaretaken
But what if someone with the same degree says Global Warming is a hoax??
MDavidsonJutland
I usually just think they being bribed or otherwise manipulated to do so
TheMayorOfTittyCity
Then I would be more inclined to listen than to a rando online. And if tens of thousands of them say so, I would consider their argument.
Loser37
It would be a rarity since consensus in the field is above 93%
AeroGirlsLikePlanes
This does happen... We call them old, try to understand that they come from a different time, and hope they retire soon
ShitALLthegoodnamesaretaken
Savage
helpidontknowmyname
What if? https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/ Please read this site and then think about your question.
ShitALLthegoodnamesaretaken
Majority doesn't mean truth. It's an indicator of it.
helpidontknowmyname
Scientific body of knowledge is accumulated based on observation, trial, repeatable results, and much debate. As science advances, older...
helpidontknowmyname
theoretical constructs are revised to include ALL observed and deducted phenomena/facts. 97% isn't "majority", it is considered science.
TobySomething
Please apply the same degree of skepticism you do to 97% of scientists to the 3% who provide cover for your feelings.
helpidontknowmyname
THIS is a good response. I am stealing it for future use. Thank you.
Duros62
When the majority are experts in their fields, it kinda does mean truth.
bomboy23
Perceived truth, not absolute truth. Just being semantically difficult, ignore me, carry on
Dark904
Empirical truth is mutable and arrived at through consensus. "Absolute" truth is unattainable in an empirical context.
iputthefiresout
If about 97% people said don't drink that poison, it'll kill you, and 3% say well, it might not. Would you drink it?
bomboy23
Will I die of thirst if I don't?
Sashi55
So actively doing something for the environment will kill you too?
Phenomeno
Well 97% of scientists are drinking the Kool-Aid at least #woke /s
iputthefiresout
And actually, a recent study found, that when corrected for biases, the number of studies that say climate change is man made goes from (1/
AVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryLostDragon
The majority of people consider food, water, and air essential to live. But let's disregard that entirely because it's just an indicator.
AVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryLostDragon
... really? Do I really have to add /s to this? Come on now.
completelyandtotallyperverted
For those that don't get it and keep saying her degree doesn't give her the ability to understand the climate, he said she should learn 1/?
TheWombatStrikesAgain
He said "some science", but he meant "some pseudo-scientific bullshit I learnt on the internet".
TheGreatBlueHeron
The internet doesn't lie. Unless it's all that fake news. Like Climate Change. And, just to be safe- *sarcasm
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
Man. People are thick as fuck
SeaDuke
And not even the good kind with two c's.
ReferenceCheck
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IlikeblueberrieswithcreamandpancakesSomechocolateaswell
this guy also has a degree and a "200" iq https://youtu.be/BiKfWdXXfIs?t=206
rollipukki
Dyson quotes about this "I don’t claim to be an expert. I never did." "not so much over the technical facts, about which I do not know much"
rollipukki
http://e360.yale.edu/features/freeman_dyson_takes_on_the_climate_establishment
rollipukki
He mostly just says that he is annoyed about the propaganda aspect and that there could be other ways to solve the problem.
IlikeblueberrieswithcreamandpancakesSomechocolateaswell
actually it should make her even better, since global warming is all because of aerosols & fluctuations in the sun's activities. No humans
sebastianthelobster
Wrong.
TedTheMan
You are glorious. Adfing you to my list of people to follow around :)
IlikeblueberrieswithcreamandpancakesSomechocolateaswell
Please you're making me blush. I do stuff that isn't retarded as well. If you like logical riddles go check my Latest Top scoring posts.
TedTheMan
I saw some of them, great stuff.
IlikeblueberrieswithcreamandpancakesSomechocolateaswell
thanks if you want the answers just ask and i'll message you
bitemark
Oh those pesky, naturally-ocurring aerosols
Counterfit
Volcanic ash is an aerosol. And typically lowers temperatures. See: the year without summer.
GodelEscherBach
Technically, many aerosols are naturally occurring. Fog is an aerosol.
Skeetskeetnojustkiddingthatsgross
That's adorable.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
i can’t even believe you have to explain this. but ya know... imgur.
IllCaesar
Its because fplks don't understand that the Argument From Authority fallacy isn't strict like the others. You need give leeway for it.
LurkerBee
Yah, the genius waves can get cancelled out by the uhm... Morty waves.
thesmelge
Hah, I believe it. I frequently get downvotes for explaining things. Because trying to help people understand is so bad, right.
PoliticalWanderer
Imgur misses the point more than a legion of storm troopers aiming at the main heroes.
axelfive
GOD DAMN IT THEY MISSED ON PURPOSE!
JosephMcCovery
Hey, a lotta folks on the internet are ignorant as fuck, and proudly revel in it.
TGWeaver
Imgur will take any chance it can to balk at a woman's qualifications.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
normally i wouldn’t agree with this but if a dude was like “i’m an engineer” (4 year degree and not hard) everyone would be so impressed.
TGWeaver
Reddit/Imgur's collective boner for STEM cannot be contained.
TheYellowKnives
Astrophysics actually has direct relations with earth sciences.
valen00
As a person with a degree in space science you might even call climate science a subset of astrophysics. (wrongly) because astro is the /
valen00
study of all planets and suns, climate science is the study of just one.
GadenKerensky
Having a PhD also somewhat implies an ability to accept credible sciences outside one's field, and understand them to a degree.
shadowex3
Except for social scientists. The social "sciences" are more like a fanatical religion at this point.
TheYellowKnives
One attempt at falsification of anthropocentric climate change theory relies on short term sun cycles. That's astrophys.
RaynWisp
Big words...
completelyandtotallyperverted
some science. She pointed out that she knows science since she has a PhD in astrophysics. Therefore, she has learned science. And just 2/?
Urgalicity
I mean, don't astrophysicists look through the atmosphere, to other atmospheres... Seems like they'd be experts on planet composition.
completelyandtotallyperverted
because her degree is in astrophysics does not mean she is unqualified in learning or understanding the science of climate change. 3/3
NotAnUberUsername
Sooo.. not caused by gays you say?
Countercheck
Can you even join a PHD course in Astrophysics without decent science (More than us lot, anyway) qualifications? Don't think so.
onlyhalfghost
I dropped out temporarily (life reasons) but if I remember how it works you'd have to have a bachelor's degree in physics or astronomy first
onlyhalfghost
(other science fields probably still apply too, but they'll be looking for the physics.)
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tupacshomie
If you have to do this much explaining, the people who don’t get it probably just arent going to get it.
kittymack
Vybors
eeeeeagle
It makes me sad that this has to be explained. Man imgur you picky
doihavetobeclever
I was just reading the top comment as usual, and I'm very surprised. Being a scientist at all is a huge qualifier.
ImGettingMines
What about a Christian scientist???
IcyLucario
You don't need to argue she's smarter than that guy, that's for sure.
did4thedopamine
I once met a physician who was against animal testing. I'm not sure how she though medicine came to be, but...
SaveTheBeardedClams
Most of what we know came from human experimentation, usually on prisoners, handicapped, and other "undesirable" or "expendible" people.
ImAShittyTransAm
Also, this particular person is pretty dang smart. She knows her stuff.
BusinessGuy
Also a PhD in practically any scientific field will understand how to read and interpret the validity of research, regardless of discipline.
Invada
Strangely this seems to surprise a lot of people, or at least conflict with their wish to support their invalid beliefs.
zFUBARz
I mean to be fair if you put in any effort at school at all, even a 4 year program should give you that. but then people...
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PoeKneeTa
do math, know very little science, and who only really care for their specific subjects. The same could easily be said of others.
Wolvenlight
"a PhD in practically any scientific field will understand..." There is key phrase there I think you missed.
zombiejon
Should. Not will. I've seen post docs fuck up reading and writing papers.
DingoMartinez
Not saying the point is wrong, but it's a false equivalency. Astrophysics =/= meteorology =/= geology =/= chemistry =/= etc etc
DingoMartinez
And I support arguments for climate change I just also believe we should be selective in the choosing of our prophets.
onlyhalfghost
Sure, but any qualified scientist has learned how to read research papers and judge them for accuracy.
pippen1001
We had a lot of climate courses when i was a student for astrophysics, turns out weather is a type of things that might happen on other plan
shtposting10101
But with that logic, you don't have to have a degree in earth science to know that the world is flat? Even the uneducated know that.
swaggerdanger
A degree doesn't inherently make you an expert in anything besides that degree, BUT the assumption is a degree enable you to better under-
swaggerdanger
Stand other science applications, I'm an engineer, I don't know climate change but I know how to find out and can understand if shown eviden
BahamutBBob
-3 and +3 on the two part comment.
ARabidDingo
Yeah basically. I have a biology degree but it gives me enough of a scientific grounding to understand a lot of things outside of my sphere.
thoushaltnotpass
If she had a PhD in climate change, the guy would have flat out denied that it was a real degree. Science denial goes very far.
MardukRules
I’m pretty sure it’s not.
ProphetofEntropy
so does this mean since i got my drivers in a corola i dont have to keep driving only corolas? /s
thanatos777
Hey, now, I'm sure Gary P. Jackson has a Ph.D. in Climatology, so definitely knows much better what he's talking about.
torillatavataan
cause is a legal term that may come handy when you shoot these idiots in the face. 3/3.
LordFriteuse
I like the way you're thinking.
baconandplagues
When people say they don't accept climate change. I immediately disregard their opinions on literally everything else.
SirBrendan
You're a cool guy but climate change is a hoax...
Skeetskeetnojustkiddingthatsgross
You're adorable.
MnightShariaLaw
He is making a joke by saying he's cool and then saying climate change is a hoax because the other guy then disregards the cool opinion.
SirBrendan
It most certainly is. I made the joke knowing that Poe would sink me because I think I'm super funny
Skeetskeetnojustkiddingthatsgross
When people don't accept climate change, I point out it's consistently 80 degrees here in New York and it's almost November.
pajamallamadrama
Eh. Climate patterns. Some years have bad tornado outbreaks, some years don't. Just like some years it's mild, some years it's frigid.
Cyzyk
As far as the science actually goes, that's basically the same as saying dinosaurs weren't real because you don't see any right now.
ArdentSlacker
He's saying the opposite. That it should really not be 80 where he's at, at this time of year. He's up to his armpits in dinosaur.
abitskeptical
On the contrary, he's saying if a dinosaur farts in a forest only the cityfolk will hear it
Skeetskeetnojustkiddingthatsgross
*...she
jahiva
I'm not saying climate change is false, but single year/few years don't point out anything. The weather has always fluctuated between years.
ArdentSlacker
Gee, good thing we've got... how many more? I mean, historical record, geological records...etc.
Mooseheart
2016 was the hottest year on record, breaking the record set by 2015, which broke the record set by 2014.
MoreCowBellBaby
Now the question do you fall into he camp of earth has cycles, or it's man's fault
CtiticalThinking
This comment is literally the definition of "bigotry."
youareabsolutegarbage
Opinion discarded.
baconandplagues
Er no. Disregarding dumb opinions isn't bigotry
geiokami
Now do you mean completely saying it doesn’t exist or “climate change deniers” as in they see it differently?
Tokcen
Some of those people must hate themselves so I wouldn't say I disregard ALL of their opinions
mobiusm1
While I'm in the same boat, there's definitely a downside to disregarding everything half of everyone says. You don't make many friends.
baconandplagues
It's not half. It's a very small minority of people who are conspiracy theorists
Sl4rtib4rtf4st
True, my best friend is a Christian, I don't hold it against him...
StandardDeviant
But at least the friends you do make aren't fucking morons.
pajamallamadrama
That's also an opinion.
mobiusm1
true. Some can't be avoided though, like coworkers I don't have the authority to fire...
CaffeineManic
Met a woman who believed moon landings were faked. Walked away.
Mooseheart
Just moonwalk away.
AmirGarib
But this makes actually sense in a way that there was a stigma to be the first at all costs. It is an opinion people have when they do not
AmirGarib
Research but have sonewhat logical thinking.
zippydee
My mum asks me this every so often, imo the biggest piece of evidence we landed is that the Soviets didn't call BS on it
zippydee
If they had any inkling we didn't actually land, they would have proven it
endrsgm
climate has always changed. long ago they could grow grapes in greenland, now they cant. the question isnt doesnt climate change but rather
endrsgm
are people making the changes quicker and more drastic than they were before. on that, the important question, the science is NOT settled
baconandplagues
Except it very much is. Consensus has been made by the vast majority of scientists in related fields
endrsgm
National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration "massages" temperature data, almost always upwards. the temp rises = the massage difference
endrsgm
for the last few years the noaa has been discarded the un-massaged data and only keeping the massaged data making it impossible to look into
baconandplagues
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus/
BayazTheBenevolent
Yep. Some issues are simply not matters of opinion anymore. Evolution, climate change, effectiveness of vaccinations... and most importantly
BayazTheBenevolent
PINEAPPLE DOES NOT BELONG ON A PIZZA!
SomeOneYouMayKnowOrNot
You can take my land, my freedom, but you can never take MY HAWAIIAN PIZZA
ghostrobbie
Not that I disagree with evolution, but your point is off. We can actively measure climate change and vaccine effects, not evolution.
BayazTheBenevolent
As for evolution it may not be perfectly measurable but it is the only theory that has offered at least some proof, unlike Creation.
baconandplagues
Actually it's very highly measurable. Fossil record mDNA lots of indicators
BayazTheBenevolent
Not to be pedantic but the effects of climate change aren't well measurable aside from temperature averages which don't tell a whole lot.
ghostrobbie
Either way +1 to you for responding rationally and giving me another view from which to look
ghostrobbie
I mean you can show someone data about global temps and compare it to historical averages and you cannot argue it is warming
Simsimillia
*warming rapidly
SeaCucumberSeaCucumber
Daaagaard
BRATSOO
BananaLover93
i like my healers large not medium
baysaa
Is ... is that Li'l Gideon?
Jacko707
THANK YOU. I wasn't the only one to see that
MnightShariaLaw
Hah just a medium healer? I'm a supreme healer lord. Not psychic tho.
MnightShariaLaw
Yes I know it says Medium, Healer as separate, no need to hate.
OliverKlosof
Spaceballs the Medium!
IHaveThePerfectPuzzleForYou
Spaceballs the Comment!
Duros62
Looks more like an extra large.
AnotherLowski
I think he might be wearing a wig.
PaulLynde
That's gotta be a wig. Even at the height of blacksploitation you never saw an Afro that ...ridiculous.
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
Professional helmet
Pr0faneTank
I’ve seen this image a million times and still don’t know what this is from.
Notevenshittingyou
It’s from TLC
Pr0faneTank
Lol thanks.
Individualsocksinthewashingmachine
The no scrubs video?
MaxweIIhaus
Who is this Asshole?
GrijzePilion
Please refrain from using any further obscenities in the presence of these people.
crazylurker
Gravy spicy
chefpickle
https://kdwb.iheart.com/content/2017-06-22-psychic-gary-spivey-on-kdwb-booty-cruise-2017-1/
VonKarnstein
Gary Spivey it says it right there you illiterate fuck
meatsuite88
But who is he though?
Nordalin
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gary+spivey
meatsuite88
But who is he though?
TheHammerGuy
He's my cousin, sir!!
IronicJeremyIrons
Are there any other assholes on this ship?
mrprogamer96
YO!
Loadertron
I knew it, I'm surrounded by assholes.
imreallyjusthereforthecats
Gary Spivy
lr5123
The second dude is the climate science equivalent of anti-vaxxers. "I read it once on the internet, so climate change must be false"
Atomsk
Except they're fanatics who actively collect and spread false information and label anything they don't like as a fake news conspiracy.
Redisia
Risk of reducing pollution: better heath? Risk of sticking your head in the sand: Dead future generations. - Why people pick the last...idk
Gosuamakenatek
I could never understand why those types always choose to believe the wrong thing they saw on the internet instead of all the right things.
jessicadee
Because it's easier to not take responsibility for your own actions.
GylfieTheOwl
Cousin of mine said he read a book by a scientist that said all other scientists were just saying climate change was real for the money 1/2
GylfieTheOwl
and that the author of the book was a scientist that had been blacklisted for disagreeing, therefore he was more trustworthy apparently 2/3
GylfieTheOwl
Nevermind that climate scientists don't actually get to live off their grant money but the guy who sold a million copies of a book is rich/3
IlikeblueberrieswithcreamandpancakesSomechocolateaswell
Same goes for climate change believers though
pajamallamadrama
I agree with you. Too many people believing Al Gore & government scientists. It works both ways. Bring on the downvotes!
SaveTheBeardedClams
Climate change is undeniably real. The only question is how much of it is a direct consequence of human actions.
IlikeblueberrieswithcreamandpancakesSomechocolateaswell
Yeah that's true, and the answer is; Locally, big. Globally, negligible
killernerd
if CO2 charts are anything to go by then: a lot.
TobySomething
Yeah, it's pretty clear. Natural climate change occurs over millennia whereas current changes are over decades. Also the carbon in the...
TobySomething
...atmosphere now increasingly bears the isotope signature of fossil fuels.
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VonKarnstein
https://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-scientific-consensus-intermediate.htm
IlikeblueberrieswithcreamandpancakesSomechocolateaswell
2many politicians were involved in editing the UN report. Did you know that? Also fudging the numbers in several stations have been revealed
caramelballoffur
I am not saying his point isn't valid but that same man spent years designing a rocket propelled by nuclear bombs exploding all the way to
IlikeblueberrieswithcreamandpancakesSomechocolateaswell
your point being?
SomeOneYouMayKnowOrNot
Well when you put it that way, Orion sounds like a bad idea.
caramelballoffur
The atmosphere.
caramelballoffur
And even if it was false, there is not a single scenario where reducing pollution will kill people, not doing so definitely will
terithian
They think it's all some Chinese conspiracy to ruin the US economy. These people are nuts.
AVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryLostDragon
But mah coal jerbs! I need that wif mah candles cause electricity is a confounded new thing made by the devil!!!one!! /s
RydWolf
Worst case scenario, we make the world a better place for no reason.
vowofloudness
This isn't totally true. Slowing down growth has real longterm consequences. People will die who could be saved. It's worth doing only (1/2)
vowofloudness
because the unchecked pollution would cause vastly more deaths. But it's important to acknowledge that there's a human cost either way.
ARabidDingo
Yup exactly. It's false to say that it has -no- consequences. Any change - good or bad - always will.
jimmyriba
But 1) moving towards renewables doesn't inherently slow down growth, 2) Growth in what? Growth isn't inherently good. It growing e.g. 1/2
vowofloudness
3) We're talking about 2-3% annual GDP growth in developed countries. Limits of exponential growth are not remotely relevant.
jimmyriba
Of course they are. 1.03^n has a doubling time of 23.4 years. You'd have to be mathematically illiterate to think that's sustainable.
jimmyriba
coal destroys ecosystems and makes the human condition *worse*, it's not desirable, and 3) Exponential growth itself has to stop, for 2/3
jimmyriba
obvious reasons. And that means that growth has to tend to zero: any constant lower bound yields an exponential lower bound to the growth3/4
vowofloudness
2) Growth in infrastructure and technology, the things we use energy for. I'm obviously not talking about growth in the energy sector alone.
vowofloudness
1) It doesn't naturally, but it does if accomplished by government intervention, which is what we're talking about.
AVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryLostDragon
-This-. No idea why climate change deniers won't even consider a better environment. Like improvement on conditions is so very harmful. Smh.
McGreed
"God damnit, they fooled us! We now have a better and healthier world built on a lie!" ... Yeah, oh noooe.
jimmyriba
...but... GLOBALIST STATISM! MUH AUSTRIAN ECONOMICS SAY REGULATIONS ARE BAD!
TanithRosenbaum
They think it will "ruin the economy" and/or "cost too much money" - In other words, they're saying "I want money, fuck the next generation"
Gobblemewl
Harmful to the economy though, also all the money spent in solar/wind etc. could finance schools/hospitals/etc.
BayazTheBenevolent
Could also finance a nice new coal plant pumping poison into the air above schools, hospitals and etc. Yay for no regulations!
AVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryLostDragon
The economy isn't the end all be all like these people argue.
LakrisalLover
Yeah, that's the argument I hear the most, that scientists scam us for fame and research money. I don't see why they would, though
jimmyriba
As a scientist, I'll tell you that science would be the stupidest way to seek fame and money. The huge amount of effort and skill that 1/2
AVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryVeryLostDragon
Imagine how many schools and hospitals could be created with the money used to develop the computer. Or electricity. Weak argument.
benboy1996
Solar/wind will and has been getting considerable cheaper over the years as tech advances. It also employs a shit ton of people.
benboy1996
The main opponents are the dieing coal industry and oil industry. Trying to get their last couple dollars while they still can.