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Eyeetsass
@nesurame I’m what? No idea what you responded to.
EroticZombiePants
To put it as simple as possible, if the Democrats were even capable of doing the widespread election fraud he claims, he would have lost in 2024.
SJBSavageInk
So he's once again bragged about rigging the election and we're not hand recounting why?
Durgon8tr
it's too funny that he can't acknowledge that he won the 2016 election with the help of documented Russian interference
Eyeetsass
@bricksprickly I voted for her. Doesn’t change why she lost. She lost because she courted swing voters, betrayed progressives, and held the line for AIPAC in not calling a genocide what it was. She ran a bad campaign.
mksu
Did Trump actually say something weird and unnecessary that suggested he stole the 2024 election or are we just once again making fun of him having no idea how time works?
Targe0
You can hardly trust anything his demented brain says now.
He muddles things up so often It's hard to actually be sure when in time he's actually talking about now.
Darkspire
@something1said that's right, cry and block. See ya bitch
Degarafarat
But is he stepping down now?
Eyeetsass
@themanwhistaresatturtles I voted for her. She lost because she’s an AIPAC owned politician who denied genocide. She betrayed progressives. She courted republicans in their place. She failed. Learn the lesson. Learn why she lost. If we don’t learn from her loss we’ll do it again. Just like Hillary. Israeli owned moderates.
PennysWorthOfTea
I'm deeply concerned that the current regime is going to try & start a war--either cold, proxy, or direct-- against China.
00LimaRomeo
TACO
TheFastpaws
You are already in one. Except you let ICE kill you and do nothing back.
hotaru251
War doesn't delay an election in USA and once someone else takes over likely end.
sweetfeetpete
Seems less likely after they fucked up the Iran war that they wanted for so long
Rink257
Remember when America chose a Nazi over a woman?
michaelfire
Here's what we must stop-Trump mass murder! Trump/Musk Death Clock now at least 1,225,500 see my new report. Likely higher. 3 million more next year per USAID Asst. Admin. Trump bragged he wanted to be among the top tyrants of all time including Mao, Hitler, Stalin, history's largest murderers. /gallery/trump-death-clock-tops-1-225-000-he-is-legendary-mass-murderer-as-trump-compares-himself-to-mao-stalin-hitler-next-year-est-4-200-000-a7MGBwo 1
michaelfire
next year his homicide count likely at 4,200,000, and in 2028-7,500,000. Counting global warming for reversing Carbon/Big Oil phase out, Trump could add 100 million or more...up to 1.2 Billion! Trump will be the most evil human being in human history by 2050 with up to a BILLION deaths on his hands. By that point the fury at Trump and the USA could put the country at existential risk, like Putin's Russia, Stalin's USSR, Hitler's 3d Reich, Pol Pot's Cambodia and other mass murdering regimes. 2
Eyeetsass
@vitaminjay this does not conclude the lesson. The lesson is in why she lost. Who she alienated. Who she chose to court. Swing voters over progressive voters. She alienated progressives by keeping lock step with AIPAC. That’s how she lost. She lost. Not the progressives she betrayed. Not the swing voters that weren’t going to vote for a brown lady. She ran a bad campaign, and she lost it for all of us. I voted for her anyway, but I also understand why she lost. You should as well.
woobniggurath
She lost because swing county tabulators were hacked.
Eyeetsass
Cool. Show me a source for that. Occam’s Razor says she was a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign, and lost.
THISISYELLING
She was neither. She should t have had to bc out the educated amongst us when she was running against Trump. You people seem hellbent on forgetting that Trump was the alternative. Harris was the better candidate and didn’t need to campaign hard as she was the VPOTUS and a know quantity. Keep making up excuses for your support of Trump. It’s tiring, champ.
hotaru251
she lost because people didnt vote.
Thats why. The cult was gonna vote regardless (as cults are unfortunately untied in that mindset) however only 65% voted meaning 35% refused to vote for her even if she wasnt ideal....she was lesser of the 2 poisons and the ones who didnt vote are the ones who put us in the place we are.
Eyeetsass
They didn’t vote for her because she ran a bad campaign. Because she’s an AIPAC owned moderate who would rather court fence sitting republicans, and dismiss progressives. I voted for her. Didn’t help. Because she was a bad candidate who ran a bad campaign. She lost. The voters she alienated are her fault. That’s the job of the candidate running the campaign. The campaign she lost.
Margrave9000
The job of the voters was to prevent the looming Nazi takeover - by voting for the non-Nazi candidate.
The French electorate does that all the time.
Voters should be responsible for their inaction. It's the Niemoller poem again. Doing nothing when something could have been done is culpable.
Eyeetsass
The job of the candidate was to win the election. She didn’t. I’ve explained why. You want to alleviate her of all the burdens of a candidate running a campaign for the highest office in the world, and you want to lay the blame on the people she failed. Cool story.
Margrave9000
French voters behave like adults and vote against the fascist candidate in a giant monolithic antifascist bloc.
'Murican voters behave like narcissistic toddlers and rather enable Nazism than compromise over fine print politics.
mindstorm8191
I will never understand why people didn't vote for Harris over her association with AIPAC. Obviously Trump was ALSO associated with them; so what difference does it make?
She wasn't a perfect candidate - nobody ever will be. But somehow, some people (or at least one I argued with on BlueSky) were convinced to not vote for her over that.
Eyeetsass
You should work on understanding how it worked before it happens again. We’ll never elect another AIPAC moderate again. Right now the winning play is to cut off Israel, and abolish ICE. That’s how she failed. She alienated progressives, and progressives are done with Israeli owned moderates.
Eyeetsass
@zanaria I voted for her. I would have voted for a tuna sandwich over Trump. It’s neat how you decide since you don’t like how the truth feels you pretend to know me, dismiss, and block me. She just ran a bad campaign, and she fucking lost because of it. Learn the lessons. She courted swing voters, and betrayed progressives by ignoring genocide, and staying loyal to her AIPAC donors. Truth hurts. Not learning the lessons hurts more longer.
zanaria
If I blocked you, I wouldn't be seeing this comment now would I...
Eyeetsass
That’s the part you want to stand on? Are we fostering your ego, or are we defining truth?
michaelfire
Musk under investigation in France for voter manipulation. Remember when Tory/MI6- aligned SCL Elections, Cambridge Analytica;s parent company, bragged they'd manipulated 100 elections world-wide and nothing happened? https://www.cnbc.com/2026/05/07/french-prosecutors-probe-of-elon-musk-x-now-a-criminal-investigation.html Remember when Zuckerberg admitted he killed teenage girls with his algorithms and he got a slap on the wrist fine? Remember when Musk admitted he rigged voting machines?...1
michaelfire
SPLC (now targeted as terrorist org) and reports from Washington Post revealed DHS recruitment for ICE utilized explicit white supremacist, neo-Nazi, and KKK-linked imagery during $100 million hiring push. These targeted ads, which coincided with lowered vetting standards, aimed to recruit from specific demographics, including gun shows and police, sparking alarm from security agencies regarding Right-wing extremist infiltration risks- earlier viewed as poss. "terrorist" orgs themselves by FBI 2
michaelfire
Partisan "National Security"- COIN warfare- actual war- against 100,000s, millions of Americans by US Intel first by "war on drugs" Bush partisan abuse of war powers then Bush Jr "war on terror" disrupting Dems, Blacks, Liberals. Trump authorized ICE, US Intel to wage actual COIN warfare against the Left, Progressives, "anti-Americans", LGBTQ+, Blacks, Kirk critics in "disruption" ops. /gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-already-been-0W9avpc 3
michaelfire
Mass incarceration- part of deliberate destruction of Blacks, the Left. "Disruption", torture, COIN warfare against "enemies" of the Right to disenfranchise, keep from voting, break, convert victims to informants like KKK, Hoover, Nixon /gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-alr-0W9avpc">http://imgur.com/gal">eady-bee">-0W9avpc">http://imgur.com/gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-already-been-0W9avpc http://imgur.com/gallery/mlk-day-is-also-about-truth-reconciliation-about-us-government-abuse-of-power-WTViMK2 http://shec.ashp.cuny.edu/items/show/814 4
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michaelfire
Eugenics! DOGE gave S. African Musk a pretext to steal social security, health, financial data- MAGA "soft" eugenics-corrosion-Zerstezung- we taught the Nazis-"disruption": https://www.historynewsnetwork.eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-hoorg/arti">eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-horrifying-amer">rrifying">org/arti">eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-horrifying-american-roots-of-nazi-eugenics https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1299061/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/may/04/maga-soft-eugenics https://conexiant.com/family-medicine/articles/why-black-americans-health-progress-stalls-in-the-us/ 6
michaelfire
Mass incarceration as part of deliberate destruction of Blacks, the Left. "Disruption", torture, COIN warfare against "enemies" of the Right to disenfranchise, break, convert victims to informants since Hoover, Nixon, /gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-alr-0W9avpc">https://imgur.com/gal">eady-bee">-0W9avpc">https://imgur.com/gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-already-been-0W9avpc https://imgur.com/gallery/mlk-day-is-also-about-truth-reconciliation-about-us-government-abuse-of-power-WTViMK2 https://shec.ashp.cuny.edu/items/show/814 5
michaelfire
Eugenics! DOGE gave S. African Musk a pretext to steal social security, health, financial data- MAGA "soft" eugenics-corrosion-Zerstezung- we taught the Nazis-"disruption": https://www.historynewsnetwork.eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-hoorg/arti">eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-horrifying-amer">rrifying">org/arti">eugenics">https://www.historynewsnetwork.org/article/the-horrifying-american-roots-of-nazi-eugenics https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1299061/ https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/ng-interactive/2025/may/04/maga-soft-eugenics https://conexiant.com/family-medicine/articles/why-black-americans-health-progress-stalls-in-the-us/ 6
michaelfire
Please see my report on torture in ICE for-profit detention, mass incarceration-/gallery/torture-ice-private-detention-centers-bSU3TeW my first-hand report on torture of detainees help me spread the word/let people know www.worldconsul.com">isruptio">the word/let people know www.worldconsul.com. Also Blacks, Dems, the Left, Progressives targeted for "disruption" Ops. https://imgur.com/gallery/mlk-day-is-also-about-truth-reconciliation-about-us-government-abuse-of-power-WTViMK2 http://www.tni.org/en/article/waging-counterinsurgency 1
michaelfire
Mass incarceration as part of deliberate destruction of Blacks, the Left. "Disruption", torture, COIN warfare against "enemies" of the Right to disenfranchise, break, convert victims to informants since Hoover, Nixon, /gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-alr-0W9avpc">https://imgur.com/gal">eady-bee">-0W9avpc">https://imgur.com/gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-already-been-0W9avpc https://imgur.com/gallery/mlk-day-is-also-about-truth-reconciliation-about-us-government-abuse-of-power-WTViMK2 https://shec.ashp.cuny.edu/items/show/814 2
michaelfire
Please see my complaint on torture to the ICC. Sec. State Rubio claims the ICC threatens US sovereignty; in fact it threatens possible war criminals like Bush, Trump, AND RUBIO, and anyone guilty of war crimes, torture like military, contractors, and Intel operators. Doing away with courts don't make crime go away- www.WorldConsul.com /gallery/is-us-government-its-right-wing-oligarch-intel-contractors-engaged-e">nsul.com">www.WorldConsul.com /gallery/is-us-government-its-right-wing-oligarch-intel-contractors-engaged-eugenics-increasing-concern-gkOKLwd 3
michaelfire
100 year history of Intel style ops torture on the Left to move the country, globe further and further to the Right- "Red scare" Nixon targeted "Commies" and accused "Pinkos". Then Socialists throughout S. and Latin America w/torture ops taught at School of the Americas: Kissinger then Bush. Then they came for the Progressives, Dem. Socialists. And always Blacks, unions, immigrants. /gallery/trump-vance-announce-new-war-on-left-what-will-be-like-what-has-already-been-0W9avpc 4
michaelfire
US military, Intel, contractors practice a particular type of "no touch" no evidence torture taught at the "School of the Americas" and used against "socialists", "enemies" including US citizens and in incarceration, based on sleep deprivation, sensory deprivation or overstimulation (constant noise/music, lights on, bad food (depredation) or constant hunger, always too cold or hot, no toilet facilities, noxious-bad smells, vomit, dehydration, threats of harm, slapping, ego down, ego up, death 5
michaelfire
threats and threats to family, witnessing violent beating, torture and murder (horror) AND witnessing or made to participate in sexual violence, rape, humiliation, use of animals to humiliate or even rape, electroshock, isolation, lies, phobias, poisoning, infection/illness, stress positions for pain, denial of medical care maltreatment etc. COIN warfare is torture https://ccrjustice.org/torture-us--prisons">https://ccrjust">prisons<">-prisons">https://ccrjustice.org/torture-us-prisons</a> https://biotech.law.lsu.edu/blog/socsci-05-00078.pdf https://muse.jhu.edu/article/239697 6
VitaminJay
She's amazing, and we wouldn't be in this hellhole if people voted for her... :/
madmax17
Woman never won though.
BlindGardener
America is more sexist than it is racist, and america is very racist.
VitaminJay
Again, just voting for her would have avoided a lot of this crap.
I'm embarrassed to be born here...
BlindGardener
I’m sorry. I’m bitter as fuck about the whole thing and extremely pissed. It was ‘but her emails’ and ‘Bengazi’ all the fuck over again.
BlindGardener
Yes, but how else could they pontificate about how Democrats are the same as Republicans and Democrats are responsible for the genocide in the middle east.
ontarioOT
Democrats are not responsible for the genocide in Gaza? Are we just pretending Joe Biden wasn't the President? Is that what we're doing now?
I'll clarify that they are in no way solely resoinsible for the genocide, but to resolve them of blame is revisionist and absurd.
VitaminJay
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Arbitrarynamehere
She lost because she ran a bad campaign. Not saying sexism and racism didn't play any role, but the main reason was the bad campaigning.
Nonada
Hillary won the popular vote. Kamala (who would have undoubtedly been a better president) spent way too much time and effort trying to court Republicans while ignoring the concerns of those to her left. It's why Trump got about the same number of votes and she had a large drop off compared to Biden.
B3N15
I'd argue she ran a fine campaign when you consider that there was a anti-incumbent wave do to the flagging economy (this wasn't just the US, this happened in a lot of countries) and the DEEP fucking hole she was left when Biden dropped out with 100 days to go. When you actually crunch the numbers, she only lost by a couple hundred thousand votes across the 8 or so swing states that actually matter thanks to the Electoral College.
Arbitrarynamehere
Yeah and she probably could have gotten those if she just pledged to not let a genocide happen with our tax dollars like her boss was allowing as well
B3N15
Israel was a big issue and while I do think her coming out more strongly would have helped, I don't think it would have helped significantly. First, there was little actual change she could make in the moment; Netanyahu had no reason to actually listen or stop doing anything because he knew that there was a 50/50 chance that Trump gets elected and he'll get to do whatever he wanted anyways. Second, the discussion would have immediately switched to either "Harris is just coming out against ...
ExiledPrincessFreja
I believe the takeaway here was that people *DID* vote for her, but the election was rigged to allow Trump the win.
chickenoodlesoup
Yup... accuse others of what you're guilty of, right out of Hitler's passbook.
CaptainScarfish
There's not really much evidence to support that. I mean actual physical evidence, not "This guy said this thing".
Let's try to remain firmly rooted in reality.
AsianLeprechaun
But she laughs weird
Fireninja404
I wouldn't call her amazing, but if I was american I would have voted for her. Really disappointing how defensive of israel she was and how the democratic party's leadership in general fights tooth and nail against progressive candidates. I am however very excited for the progressive wave replacing do-nothing octogenarians
MaddMatter
She's not amazing. It was once again the choice between the lesser of two evils.
Jandegrote
America would still be a hellhole Israel would still be doing what they are doing funded by their little cuck state US, but shit like ICE goons running around the war in Iran would not be a thing. She is a 1000 time's better then the nonce rapist but the Epstein class and Israel would still be untouched.
Jyx123
Let's take off the purple-tinted glasses.
She isn't and wasn't amazing. She was and is okay, including not being a literal government-overthrowing fascist, and probably at least decently competent.
But among many other things she suffered from the delusion of being able to change systems from the inside and put many a victimless drug criminal behind bars as CA AG. There's also the Israel/Palestine issue as it was ongoing during her election season, etc etc.
magicrhombus
"She's not perfect, therefor I'm going to abstain and let the actual fascist win."
mikeatike
I duno about "not a hellhole", but it would be a better place.
UnicornsToxicRainbowFart
True, our kids would have to clean it up 10 or 20 years down the road when it inevitably gets this bad because this is the result of capitalism. Kamala is still a capitalist, and we're not getting anything if we stick with capitalism and do nothing about aipac. Voting for one president or another is not going to itself solve America
BrickSprickly
Shifting the fight to general anticapitalism is a bold move, but perhaps aim for the 100m targets instead there champ
VitaminJay
You vote for the best candidate, and push for an even better candidate. Repeat until gay space communism is achieved.
SJBSavageInk
Ngl, I will believe he lost because there was actual experience something funky was going on. Plus, he lives to Brag about the shady shit he does and he went on tv multiple times to say he rigged the election with Elon
VinnieJonesDiary
The simple fact is that her job was to appeal to voters, no one is owed a vote, she failed to win enough votes, she lost and it is her fault.
She actively demotivated what should have been her most fired up demographic (left wing voters) by trying to appeal to right wing voters and refusing to call genocide genocide.
One of the main reasons the Democrats are so shit is because of this idea that somehow the voters are beholden to them, not the other way around.
FetteredJuvenescence
She's mid, at best. We should be demanding more from the democrats. "Better than Trump" isn't much of a ringing endorsement
Jacana
Not even close to my preferred person; but I definitely voted for her.
FetteredJuvenescence
As did I. But there are a number of realistic candidates I'd have voted for before her.
Nightchime
Primaries are where you pick the best candidate. After that comes the lesser of two evils.
WigglyBlondeNoodle
The problem with the 2024 election was there weren't any real democratic primaries. You were first told to vote for Joe Biden and when he dropped out, the DNC expected you to simply vote for their pick, Kamala Harris.
Nightchime
Fair, though we did primary her in 2020.
BrickSprickly
I would gleefully take GW Bush over Trump any day of the week and Im an anarchist so do that math
FetteredJuvenescence
That's just proving my point. Better than Trump is an abysmally low bar.
pandemicmodedad
Basicly a tripping hazard
rouzuki
In Satan's basement.
VitaminJay
You vote for better than trump, and keep voting. This is not difficult.
mksu
Sure, but we don't need to glaze obviously lackluster politicians either. It serves no real purpose except to piss people off. I'm not saying we need to shred the candidate come election season just because they're an unambitious liberal, but we don't need to act like Charlie Corpo is the second coming of FDR either. We can be honest about what we do and don't like about them and how it fits into fixing the country.
thisisnotfineffs
Nah, anyone who criticizes my favourite politician must just be fascist and not honest or reflective! It's so much easier to bitch and moan that way!
alex5775
I agree, but you should also not refuse to acknowledge the problems with your better than Trump options. This one refused to say she'd stop funding Israel in light of their genocide. I voted for her because she's better than Trump, but that is not okay and we can't be silent about that.
BubblesTheFish
Fuck Kamala.
SideBoobsWillGetYouBanned
Fuck you too, buddy
dontrike
At least a republican is thinking about a woman above the age of 12.
BubblesTheFish
Not a republican, but that is a pretty good comeback. Kamala is a genocidal monster that sucks so bad at running a campaign that she tried to get republicans to vote for her instead of the actual republican option.
dontrike
Oh a monster? Did she start a war, targeting a school full of children, just so she could hide her pedophile connections?
BubblesTheFish
Let me know if you need more bags to hold all that straw!
Eyeetsass
Damn. If she could have called genocide genocide we wouldn’t be here. Wild to blame the people when she dropped the ball.
BrickSprickly
Ah you sat the election out, didn't you?
VitaminJay
She did call it that, and I will be blaming those who voted for the orange fuck, as well as those who decided to be fussy babies and not vote, because that was another vote for the orange fuck.
Thus ends the lesson.
micuu
She said loud and proud at the DNC how much of a supporter of Israel she was. No one but AIPAC made her do that.
KingHippie
What gets me is some people on here seem to think she was worse than the devil. I just dont get it.
constellanation5
Racist and sexist... Pretty simple, even if disgusting
powwerbottom
I think what a lot of people don't understand is that she wasn't able to run her own campaign - she was asked to run essentially as a surrogate on a platform designed for an entirely different candidate who was still her boss. We don't actually know how she would've done it if she'd been given a fair shot.
crazyspelling
TBH if Biden had really thought about it, he could have resigned the week before the election, and been like "SURPRISE BITCHES, YOU HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO IS A WOMAN OF COLOR NOW. SEAL BROKEN, RACISTS. LOOK, THE WORLD DIDN'T END." And we'd likely be better off.
GuggelPlayer
well its because she laughed little bit funny /s
VitaminJay
Either bad faith actors pretending to be 'More Leftists Than Thou' to muddy the waters,
...Or 'More Leftists Than Thou' turds mad that they didn't wake up in Gay Space Communism and get incandescently mad at me when I say they have to work for that goal.
neithermenoryou
The bigger part of the people that abstained to vote were Arabs / Palestinians where Harris promised to let Israel genocide their families in Gaza and let them bomb surrounding countries, and trans people that got thrown under the bus by her when the only thing she had to say on the matter of trans rights was to leave it up to the states. Feels like we're expecting people to vote for their own butcher when we should be asking why they're running a butcher in the first place.
LoudBirb
She never said that trans rights should be left up to the states.
She shied away from trans rights as a talking point during the election, sure. I imagine because of Dem consultants telling her not to give the GOP any talking points.
But she's been a staunch ally of LGBTQ+ people (including trans people) for a long time. So much so that she was heavily endorsed by A4TE and the National Center for Transgender Equality Action Fund.
Eyeetsass
Nope. Just people who know she’s complicit in genocide.
nesurame
so are you
BlindGardener
Eh, every ‘more leftist than thou’ I’ve met has turned out to prove the idiom true that if you scratch a leftist, a fascist bleeds.
They love using that saying themselves, of course. Projection is a fascinating fascist psychological phenomenon.
crazyspelling
There was an ur-meme back in the days of somethingawful.com and cracked, I can't find it, but it was a "political spectrum" meme, and "left-wing" and "right-wing" were depicted as bidirectional arrow wrapped into a circle, and at the bottom (the middle) was "kitten" and the top, where both ends met, said "dictatorship." I wish I could find it. Point being, if you go far enough left you get a brutal dictatorship, and if you go far enough right you also get a brutal dictatorship.
PennysWorthOfTea
I question your conclusions & suspect they came about through a combination of small sample size & confirmation bias
Darkspire
Shut up pedophile
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
Nah. I know several that aren't fascist, but are so leftier than thou that they're worse than useless. One of these clowns insists to me that Hillary Clinton's SCOTUS picks would have overturned Roe anyway so it's fine they spent 2016 campaigning against her because they were pissed about Bernie losing. Just absolutely hopeless.
BlindGardener
See, that’s just a Republican who hates minorities and desperately wants to pretend it’s not so.
nesurame
what, you scratch yourself a lot or something?
BlindGardener
Nah, I just love trolling the fuck out of Republicans who are desperately trying to get people to not vote for Democrats.
Eyeetsass
I think she was complicit in genocide. I only think that because she was though.
zanaria
So is Trump, and you voted for him. Whether you actually voted for him, refused to vote, or voted third party, all of those end up helping him. So just stop with the "genocide" excuse. We all know that's just bullshit since Trump has done worse...
Darkspire
Trump was full speed ahead on all genocide and war
thisisnotfineffs
You have no idea if they voted for her or not, don't be so reactionary. There are lots of people who correctly criticize Kamala and voted for her anyways
Fentex
They had good reason to infer the first commentor either did not vote or voted 'against' her from their comment - or do you argue they should take an assertion she was complicit in genocide as an intended compliment?
TheManWhoStaresAtTurtles
If you're an American citizen and you didn't vote for her because of that, congrats! You're complicit in every crime Trump has done.
neithermenoryou
Harris did ask people with Palestinian roots / family to vote for her, while directly stating she'd support Israel in the ongoing genocide there. She also expected trans people to vote for her when she said she would leave the trans question up to the states. Blaming people for not voting for a politician exonerates the politician from their terrible platform. It's the politician's job to create and make a platform people want to vote for, it's not the voters job to vote for their own demise.
bronx72a
A vote withheld was a vote for the winner. Own it.
You threw away thousands of years of slow, extremely-hard-won progress in a complicated world based on information you got from memes. Steve Bannon is proud.
KingHippie
I think stopping Trump was way more important than your selfish pedantry. You have fucked your country over and now we in the rest of the world have to suffer from your terrible choices. Fuck you.
CoalhouseWalker
And what then, Trump was running on a platform of stopping Israel and that's why he was the better choice to you? Seems like he has been worse on the Gaza issue (and everything else) so I frankly don't understand why people use this as an argument for not voting for Kamala
neithermenoryou
And what then? Do you actually expect people to vote for Harris, then go home to their families to watch TV and see the rest of their family get bombed in gaza angway? Those are real, unconscionable choices for many and I hope you are never in the position those people were in.
BarbedWireCatheter
Maybe its because we have it real easy in the US that we no longer understand the difference between moldy bread and a shotgun to the face. Soft people make hard times, amirite?
Youareincorrectsir
Yes. I chose the Lesser of two Evils. Always. Those people you speak about are not that many. But hey, lets vote for the mass murderer instead
CoalhouseWalker
And so you'd rather have the guy that is rounding up people here, enforcing Christianity as law and taking away rights from US citizens? Yeah it sucks but sometimes yes you do need to choose the less bad option. And the choice was clear. Voting trump or staying home allowed him to win and cause much more harm that the issues abroad