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geiokami
Yeah almost all the allegations are false
Grummbles27
A homeless man showed me his dick. I want him to lose everything and spend his life in jail.
theothercollin
was it bigger than yours?
Grummbles27
It always is
Suzadooz
Everywhere, every day, always disgusted and disappointed by creeps... and creeps in friend disguises...
TheVakarian
*consults history* Um...maybe?
hawkhandsaw
"Al Franken"? Ridiculous.
justherefortheshitposting
Shit man, some of the stuff I saw and heard when I did blue-collar work would make her shrivel up and die, I reckon.
TCTom
I work in a restaurant. I’m a male and am outnumbered 7 to 1 in the front of the house. Good thing I have a sense of humor. Ditch pigs!
Basker88
There's a local comedian/radio host here who is complete scumbag. Dozens of women are coming forth now, and it's incredible.
BESTtaylorINAUSTRALIA
Is this 3rd wave Feminism? I've lost count
MemerdJamesKeenan
It will probably work like trickle down economics.
squip
Because it's always men that are the perpetrators right?
DangerTrain
Ha! No. But the world wants you to think so.
Bigdaddyclean
You people make me sick
jagerben47
I can't wait until female harassers get equal spotlight.
DoodleBobForReal
Ha! Trickle down economics isn't real. The Reagan administration proved that.
TrapsAreIllegal
The bar and restaurant industry is especially bad for this. They just shut one down here because of it.
shadowex3
If you didn't care when Amy Schumer publicly admitted raping someone but care about Weinstein you're part of the problem, not the solution
LavaAxe
Link? I ain't heard about it.
DysgraphicProgrammer
Once you take into account that the story is exaggerated for comic effect, then it's probably not rape at all.
shadowex3
According to feminists its ALWAYS rape to fuck a drunk person. period.
DysgraphicProgrammer
Oh, hey! I remember you! You're that anti-feminist troll I got bored of that one time! Still doing the exact same thing huh?
shadowex3
"anti-feminist" is a meaningless term. Karen DeCrow and Julie Bindel are both "feminist" yet utterly the opposite on every belief.
Shewy92
This isn't a comment, its a post. Just FYI
wonderbug
could we please make sure that perpetrators of false allegations are dealt with just as harshly though, please?
DangerTrain
Friend of mine had his life turned upside down because of false accusations, no repercussions for the accuser. It's a joke.
pipicacaboudin
I don't talk to girls anymore. I'll prolly let a girl die in front of me instead of saving her. I'll let a girl be beaten.
pipicacaboudin
Your life is worth less than mine to me. I won't take a risk for a girl anymore. Let's see how this works out.
pipicacaboudin
I'm done with female tbh. When a boy is hitting on you now he is harassing you. I'm fucking done with females. Take that for harassment
squirrelfury
You need a hug or something?
Trashgarbage
Everyone else just seems to instantly arrested and has their life destroyed whether the accusation is true or not.
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Zheela
http://www.news965.com/news/local/man-wrongly-accused-being-pedophile-burned-alive/X0PwLCPPpb5nylVNALEJ1O/
HistoricalContext
All there really needs is a law stating that if a woman proves she's being groped and that she warned the guy, she can break his fingers.
spetcnaz
Most of the folks here do not have a problém with that. The issue is when a sneeze in the wrong direction can be used as harrasement.
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
This makes me wonder what the legalities are of defending yourself, surely if someone's grabbing you you're allowed to do something?
ThisNosoi
I imagine you could argue self-defense if they physically put a hand on you.
DirtRockets
It's usually about proportionality. The issue's more that grabbing your ass is considered proportional to push your hand away rather than
DirtRockets
punch you in the mouth.
TolvanT2ielik
and vice versa
greenstairs
Trickle down social engineering
IamNOTatomato12
Trickle down gropenomics
IHateYouAll69
This is awful. Guess what? There will always be shitty people harassing you one way or another. You think all these people should be fired?
davidsarif
Yes you idiot. Yes
ThisNosoi
Yes? Harassment in any form is unacceptable, especially in the workplace. Like...what planet are you from that it isn't?
IHateYouAll69
Harassment is douchey, disgraceful, and annoying. But as long as it isn't stalking or threatening, it shouldn't lead to legal issues.
ThisNosoi
Please look up the definition and synonyms of "harassment" and tell me in what fucking world every form of harassment isn't threatening. 1/?
ThisNosoi
Like...I think you're missing the base concept of what harassment is and how it works. It isn't just "kinda bothering someone". It's 2/?
ThisNosoi
BY DEFINITION threatening. It isn't "annoying", it's scary and mortifying. I hope to god if you ever have a kid they don't get harassed, 3/?
Ssssssssssss
I'm sure there are plenty of poor Harvey Weinsteins, you know, people who have so much money that they can buy off- oh.
Imgurislongerfunny
The guy who assaulted me was accused before and got a plea to not have to register as a sex offender.
squirrelfury
Or their victims have so little time and money it doesn't matter?
YourWaifuIsTrash
Because only millionaires have influence, money, and/or positions of power.
Ssssssssssss
I dunno, if I tried to bribe a police officer to not be convicted of a crime, they'd be insulted by how little I could pay.
Ssssssssssss
I'd imagine, Mr Weinstein would get something like a 'thank you sir', instead.
YourWaifuIsTrash
yeah, but if you're the manager at mcdonalds, constantly hit on the girl who works the window, and she knows she'll probably get fired if >
YourWaifuIsTrash
She complains without hard evidence, and even with hard evidence she's in trouble because she just put the company in a bad spot, then >
YourWaifuIsTrash
You're successfully implementing the Weinstein Technique (tm) despite not being a millionaire.
biolologist
So sick of people lumping Franken in with Weinstein. The actions and the response are nothing alike.
TastefulMemesOnly
Ready for a calm discussion to follow.
DangerTrain
Seriously. Franken's got like, one picture that's blown wayyyy the fuck out of proportion. People just want something to be outraged about.
hawkhandsaw
Absolutely.
maniacalmacaroni
I say, if throwing Franken is what it takes to have a legit discussion about Moore or Trump, then let's do it. They say, what about Franken
maniacalmacaroni
And Conyers? We have to say "yes, let's talk about all of them." instead of what they want, which is to talk about none of them.
maniacalmacaroni
Franken has admitted wrongdoing, and requested his own investigation, he's ashamed and regretful. Trump and Moore deny all wrongdoing.
biolologist
Right, and the conversation is and will still be steered to be "well what about Franken?" in case you haven't noticed.
amoth
Wein Frankenstein
FaithAlone
It. Doesn't. Matter. Splitting hairs on sexual misconduct is not what this movement is about, its about calling out all sexual misconduct.
kalas1973
No, it's the problem with the movement. They need to feed the outrage, so they treat as misconduct equally, which trivializes the worst 1/?
kalas1973
Crimes. In their attempt to keep the ball rolling, they've done the opposite of their goal. Plus, attacking Mike Pence was a ridiculous move
DysgraphicProgrammer
if you see no difference between unsolicited grabass and child rape, then you are part of the problem.
biolologist
Right, because rape and public urination are exactly equal. /s
FaithAlone
Public urination is not what any of the accusers are talking about. Nice straw man.
biolologist
You JUST said that it doesn't matter what any of them are accused of because it's all sexual misconduct so...
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TechnomancerZac
The point he's making is that both of these acts would make you a sex offender
FaithAlone
That point is a purposeful convolution of the discussion of awareness of the culture of sexual abuse with a critique of criminal penalties.
Lugh314159
Weinstein, Cosby, Lewis CK, Fraklin, Moore; none of them are in the same boat... but they're all riding the same wave.
biolologist
Only to people who don't care about details, the victims, or what actually happened
Lugh314159
They are all guilty of sexual assault. The only difference is the scale of their crimes.
Killstealer
Is this a strawman or ad ignoratiam?
Crowlands
Louis CK Masturbated in front of women, after asking permission. That's not sexual assault. It's misconduct at WORST.
requit
Any sort of sexual advance is assault, keep up.
Keru
The problem with that is that in most of those cases he was someone with power and then it's a matter of "do I lose my job if I say no?".
parabolic000
Perhaps, but the general feel is just what-about-ism by liberals whose tribalism outweighs their morals.
biolologist
Literally every thread about Trump admitting, on tape, to sexual assault is met with right-wingers saying "what about Clinton?"...
parabolic000
It goes both ways. I'm -very- liberal, if that helps.
biolologist
No it fucking doesn't. Franken's incident being brought up is universally met FIRST with condemnation.
parabolic000
I've seen him defended a ton. Don't mistake your experiences for universals. Also, incident? Sexual assault.
dietderpsy
Who cares, why do you people find things to be offended by?
dietderpsy
I was referring to the original title of the post which was changed, OP was offended the Reddit
dietderpsy
was putting a feminist spin on it and my reply was who cares, because who cares what some random person on the net says, there are
dietderpsy
more important issues out there in the real world, like the issue in question.
ThisNosoi
Say that when someone you love gets molested. How can you honestly call genuine sexual harassment "finding something to be offended by"?
dietderpsy
That is not what my comment was about, I was referring to the original title of the post which was changed, OP was offended the Reddit
dietderpsy
was putting a feminist spin on it and my reply was who cares, because who cares what some random person on the net says, there are
dietderpsy
real issues out there like the issue in question.
ThisNosoi
Fair enough. My bad. Your comment looked pretty shitty without the context of the title being changed.
ZZhillTopper
I'm not sure if its what she is talking about but a sleazy person hitting on you in a bar is different then a person with power over you 1/2
ZZhillTopper
using that power to coerce you for sex. Bosses/physicians/teachers/guardians/etc are rightly held to a higher standard. 2/2
annaZon
I think they're referring to the culture among employees at bars
greenking13
They aren't talking about sleazy people hitting on you in a bar, but your manager at Oliver Garden hitting on you, the bus boy.
spetcnaz
A bus boy is on the lowest end of the restaurant ladder no? So if a bus boy asks her out he needs to be punished?
greenking13
We're talking about abuse of power from authority. If his manager stated he needed to take her out to keep his job, and so forth.
spetcnaz
I know but I saw bus boys being mentioned too
ZZhillTopper
Like I said it wasn't really clear to me especially since they specifically used places were people tend to flirt/pick up others. But I 1/2
ZZhillTopper
agree all bosses should be held accountable. Anyone who holds a position of power should be kept from abusing that power. 2/2
thebuss
specifically says bars/restaurants she's WORKED at.
ZZhillTopper
I wasn't sure if this was observation at her work or first hand experience. Like I said I'm all for accountability for figures of authority
themissingventure
Boy oh boy, if kitchen language gets people in trouble next, 3/4 of all restaurants will have to close.
philcollinsdrumbreakdown
If that's what has to happen
CumsInPies
I will say kitchens are a boys club and I'd hate to lose that freedom of speech. But when my boss hired girls constantly that didn't 1/?
CumsInPies
Stick around because they would conveniently see their hours drop after he slept with them like the college across the street was just a 2/?
CumsInPies
Source for sexual fodder something is very wrong. The turnover in that place was horrible. And nothing happened despite many complaints 3/3
RVAALLDAY
My old sous chef would give me the worst fucking titty twisters
Lugh314159
Or .... you know .... stop being dicks and just be professionals.
boingboingboingboing
It's not the fucking kitchen language. You can vulgar without being abusive/harassing
DirtRockets
Kitchen language is a bunch of creative uses of the word "fuck". Men and women use kitchen language to the same effect, and the target is
DirtRockets
usually the food, the burning, or the pressure. It's not an ass-pat on the way to the walk-in.
eggmuffin
How is your "kitchen language" different from "locker-room talk"?
Slander7
It's the same, but with a lot more food and utensil references.
NicomoCosca
It's different bc people won't lie and say that kitchen talk doesn't exist
CumsInPies
It happens in the kitchen
CumsInPies
Seriously though in my kitchen you give as you get. Doesn't matter who you are. The most foul mouthed assholes in my kitchen are the girls.
PabstbLord
Filled with more hate, and mainly focused on customers. IF A KITCHEN CLOSES IN TEN MINUTES DON'T ORDER. Bad karma for you if you do.
eggmuffin
We're not talking about yelling at customers. We're talking about chauvinist behaviour in the kitchen.
SomethingSomethingTraLaLa
Uh, yeah. Anthony Bourdain just said the environment is bro-tastic and awful, and needs to change.
Kiore
I had a friend who was a chef and the stories.. it was straight up and very overt abuse and yet an acceptable norm in that profession.
Felman
And so was this, until recently.
shadowex3
Yeah tell that to the women I've worked with at multiple restaurants. Theyve always been the most foul mouthed people there.
themissingventure
Good for him!
SomethingSomethingTraLaLa
https://www.eater.com/2017/10/25/16545850/anthony-bourdain-meathead-culture It's pretty great.
themissingventure
Welp, when gets off the TV, back behind the line, and stops being an insufferable cunt, he can impose whatever rules he'd like.
SomethingSomethingTraLaLa
It's not rules, it's basic goddamn decency in the workplace, particularly where sexual harassment is concerned.
misterfister101
I love my kitchen staff. Male to female all of the clinically insane and make damn good food! No PC in kitchen. Free for all..
squirrelfury
There's a difference between being politically incorrect and sexual harrassment.
9heartbeats
That line is different for every person. I can hang w/ the guys in all manner of banter. Other women in same convo would cry harassment
squirrelfury
Thats why you stay professional at work. I have a dirty and dark sense of humor but there's no way I'm making those jokes around coworkers.>
squirrelfury
>And most women can take a joke. It's when every conversation is about sex or the comments become personal, etc. that there's a problem.
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blonx
Maybe try to video it?
themissingventure
You mean actual honest to god groping, that's totally different, I was referring to the magic zone known as the kitchen, where during a rush
themissingventure
anything/everything can and will be said, nothing is sacred, and you can't take it personally.
ButteryButtsButterflyCups
eh youre right. as in my comment is off topic of your comment so I'm gonna delete it.
TedTheMan
All comments matter!
themissingventure
Don't bother at all, the less it get acknowledged, the more it gets swept under the rug.
bythezu
I have been tricked 3 times into getting "jobs" where they spent the meeting to hit on me. Thought I was getting a $700 commission 1/2
Kassimila
Are you a sales rep?
bythezu
Nah I'm a freelance artist & photographer. I have to meetup with clients all the time for events I'm hired for or to paint wall murals etc.
bythezu
2/2 only to have a man twice my age try to touch and hug me in a "professional" meetup and asked me to travel with him. I cried for hours.
rymorath127001
Everyone's getting sexually harassed but me, starting to feel ugly. Jokes aside sexual harassment is bad. Apparently my face is too.
bythezu
Thanks for the kind words guys. And to all the dudes that keep saying I "bawled my eyes out" weakly. I actually i cried out of anger thanks
bythezu
Crying may seem weak to you. But i sure feel a lot stronger now that I will do everything in my power to not let this happen again.
LifeHasManyDoorsEddBoy
Cheesus Christ man, that's fucking horrible. Congrats on winning the gene lottery but sorry you had to go through that.
TouchMyAwesomeButt
Stupid thing is you don't even need to win the gene lottery, having a vagina is often enough
SlickerThanNick
or... a butt?
butreallywhogivesasingleshyt
Should have kicked them in the fucking nuts
MrJimmyRustles
Is this where you met?
kalas1973
People's jimmies are rustled. Username checks out. BTW, hilarious. I laughed. +1
kalas1973
People's jimmies are rustled. Username checks out. BTW, hilarious. I laughed. +1
GBSZephyr
Mate, please...time and place buddy. Not now.
LooseyGooseyBrett
It's imgur. This is the place, when is the time?
GBSZephyr
Imgur is the place, certainly. But this individual comment is far from it.
kalas1973
Lol, white Knight
bythezu
Shit like this hurts, and it's humiliating. I'm trying to make a living and I just want to be taken seriously as a business owner. Fuck.
thissuperglueworksjustfine
From my perspective: this shit is supposed to make you mad, furious not cry. If you cry, means youre weak, means they think they CAN do it.
bythezu
I cried from anger actually
Angelova33
10/10 can relate. VFX designer here and they fake me into meetings and don’t even look at my work. They just want to go to dinner. 1/2
Angelova33
2/2 and I’m not even hot. I hate having my time wasted by sleaze bags. It’s humiliating and hurts.
killernerd
next time that happens just leave, don't say anything just get up and leave.
Bugleisthebomb
Thats on them, not you. Unprofessional jerks
kootiepatra
I'm so sorry that happened to you. It's not fair.
HoneyBunchesOfStoats
For what it's worth I'm sorry too, you deserve better
killernerd
it sucks that that still happens
thissuperglueworksjustfine
My sister always told me: if someone affects your emotions, they have control over you. Never let anyone do it.
Porecomesis
I'm sorry to hear that story. I saw your art and photos; you're worth the $700 and I hope he gets his comeuppance soon. Did you tell anyone?
probshouldntsayitbut
I was gonna tease her a bit then saw this, then her art and can’t do it! Such pretty drawings!
probshouldntsayitbut
Wow, lighten up ya wankers.
Victoron
Username checks out.
Porecomesis
Tease her a bit about what?
SociopathicOtter
I had a hotel owner offer me a clerk job. All I had to do was show up at his house after I got off my shift at my hostessing job and 1/2
SociopathicOtter
sleep with him, despite knowing I was engaged. Needless to say, I said no to sex, but I want the job and he said, “What’s the point?” 2/3
SociopathicOtter
and he hung up on me, while I was pulled over on my way to discuss matters further. Yep. That was nice. No sex, no job. Hope he dies. 3/3
drcurlyfat
I've avoided this whole issue by working in an industry that almost zero women are willing to work in. No women, no harassment. Done.
Brocktooon
I've worked in a "locker room". Having women around is much more pleasant.
hungitalianohwaitthisisntgrindr
here i’ll do it cuz you’re basically begging: “oh what do you do for work? engineering? oooh cool you must be so smart!!!”
drcurlyfat
Lol! I work in the oilfield. It's the only way an uneducated white-trash schlub like myself can make big money. But sure man, I feel smart.
kittyprrrrl
Well, good for you /s. Glad you’re avoiding harassing women by never interacting with them. How are women supposed to avoid being harassed?
shitduke
stay in the kitchen?
drcurlyfat
Glad you took this super serious.
spetcnaz
They can't. I am a intimidating looking 34 year old male and I have had people inappropriately touch me during work. Not direct co workers
spetcnaz
but contractors and folks from different departments. We have laws so we can minimize such events however to expect that one's life is going
spetcnaz
to be a comfortable journey 24/7 is a dream. Did I feel uncomfortable in those situations? Sure. Did I decide to quit my job and change
spetcnaz
industries because of that? Hell no. Stupid and awkward situations will happen in life, one can't just quit because of them. Serious stuff?
malackey
No, dipshit - No harassment, no harassment. Women don't bring it on themselves.
Flyndaran
And men can harass other men.
drcurlyfat
I'm amazed at how many people took my comment so serious. This is astounding.
Avatar720
Everyone who understood it was sarcasm chuckled and moved along as normal, leaving the people who thought it was or wanted it to be serious.
Avatar720
Oh, and look out for the "of course it's a joke now you've been called out" BS response. Like I said, people will see what they want to see.
FrogSupreme
I've avoided this issue by not being a sexist idiot and helped promote other men to do the same. Done.
spetcnaz
Then everyone on the bus clapped
RonSwansonsGirl
User name (awesomely) does not check out.
SanFranTexan
What industry is that? I didn’t even know one still existed.
SoupCanMan
Steel and iron factories. Lawn and garden. Mining. Mechanics. Road and construction. High physical labor jobs that suck.
ConcreteIgloo
Fisherman
drcurlyfat
Oilfield.
Sinjai
Most blue collar stuff, and STEM. Stereotypes and gender roles have only just begun to be less of a thing.
Camelspotting
I've noticed tons more women in construction these days. It might actually be changing.
Sinjai
It's changing, for sure. But slowly.
Bugleisthebomb
Truck driving industry is the same, no female drivers at any of my jobs in the last few years
kootiepatra
My aunt was a trucker. The way she got treated is part of why she is no longer in that job.
Bugleisthebomb
I'm sorry to hear that, the environment has been fairly professional for my last couple jobs. I would love to see more women in my industry
VioletMoonRising
you what? truckers spend most of their time alone....
Bugleisthebomb
Yes and no, we aren't all interstate linehaul drivers. We also spend a lot of time on radios as well with dispatch etc
AmirGarib
Coal mining
kootiepatra
http://wvpublic.org/post/miner-and-matriarch-coal-mining-women-west-virginia#stream/0
kvakkerakk
Aka. gay porn.
drcurlyfat
Oilfield.
Kiore
Can't imagine why women wouldn't find that environment appealing. I'm sure it's because they're lazy and not the high chance of rape.
AmirGarib
High chance of rape? Are you telling me that coal mine workers are animals and rape women? Wow.
Kiore
Nope. Rape is absolutely not restricted to certain environments, or certain victims.
drcurlyfat
You're not serious, right? High chance of rape? Is that your view of blue-collar workers?
Kiore
It's not the people, it's the isolation. Rape happens everywhere, and that's the problem with getting women into jobs in those environments.
Kassimila
I just read that like a weather report. Have you ever BEEN in a coal mine?
AmirGarib
No she is imagining it to be like the rammstein music video with snowwhite