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yoyo42
If you're flying with a battery like that it's important that you store it under the seat in front of you, especially if they start to recline into your knees.
MidnightBaelfire
I still have a laptop from 2003. It's runs like molasses, doesn't recognize and recent wifi modems and hates humanity. But I've never seen it's battery look like that lol
neithermenoryou
This usually happens if you overcharge the battery for weeks at a time, or if you let it deep discharge and then charge it too fast, as well as then let it get too hot by discharging it quickly. That puts a lot of stress on the cells and leads to more gas forming than normal, as well as crystal spikes being made. All of that can combine to rupture the pillow and then it burns.
usernametakenisthestoryofmylife
'splodey.
Sechran
US Military announces new battery recycling program - bring your swollen laptop batteries to your local recruiter to be refurbished as anti-tank ordinance.
gablestout
Had an M1A1 drive over a triple-stacked AT mine once in 2005. Trailing vehicle said it popped the (70 ton) tank a full 3 feet into the air. Concussions were the only injuries.
NowhereMan313
You gotta wear the brain bucket in the tank, too, boys. Ceiling's real low.
Filanwizard
An issue is we really lack clear messaging and clear places to get rid of spicy pillows or whole devices that have gone spicy.
swedeonamoose
At that point it is more like a claymore than a battery methinks
whatsisname
There is a subreddit called "spicy pillows" that has many anxiety inducing battery related images in it,.
slinkiisu
Lost my tablet to the spicy pillow. Threw it in the bin and ran away when I realised what was happening.
Mr21782Man
Its amazing that we live in an era where voters will fight for the right to stop me if my shampoo bottle is 1oz to big but they won't bat an eye if I carry the equivalent of a pound worth of gunpowder in batteries onto a plane.
GuysJustWannaFish
Bruh I walked in on a BIG 12v battery that had swollen up like a basketball.
I saw that and I hit the floor. I fckin belly crawled out of that office and evacuated ppl. Batteries exploding is scary stuff
ShadeMeadowsArt
Fluffy
LoveDjinn
I work in IT Support. I've seen batteries WAY more bloated than that. On more than one occasion I've had expanding batteries force the entire case of the laptop to pop open; keyboard popped off, screws came off, the case was just holding itself together with various ribbon cables.
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LoveDjinn
Ooof, a leaking battery can be WAY worse than a bulging battery. Battery acid burns are awful.
languex
Didn't one of those bring down an airliner?
vampire49
I don't want to be on a plane with that ... or a subway ... or a bus ... or a car.
Jaqdakloun
The samophlange may be making intermittent contact with the actuator, causing the resonation dongle to perpetuate expansion in a non sporadic yet exponential rate
DrKenAdams
Mine did that. I found out when I replaced the touchpad. The touchpad wasn't broken but the battery was pushing on it and creating phantom clicks.
Varnna
That falls under the " Pretty darned sure" segment.
Mercurybird
Probs saying “because it was going to explode” isn’t a good idea at TSA. But that’s just me.
HelpfulCorn
Technically it was customs but they're not a big fan of explosives either
Mercurybird
TSA are the people that check your electronics on the way to departures. They do the screenings. Customs don’t do that for a carry on. They deal with checked bags.
Hexidimentional
"because it got spicy and i havent replaced it yet" would have been better
Mercurybird
That sounds way better!
PineappleLoopsBroether
The honesty of autism while growing up was a constant bumpy dirt road when wiser liar children cruised on fresh asphalt.
Grapeape2000
Remeber kids. Batteries have to be in the cabin with you and not in checked luggage.
ParaspriteHugger
https://xkcd.com/651/
AimingForAdorkable
Ahhhhh finally, someone else who’s brain works like mine!
“If I prove them wrong, and give logic and evidence proving my point, surely they will change their minds, align their reasoning with mine, and the problem will be solved!”
SubTrout
I don't fly much so I forget how stupid things are. I was at an airport some years ago, and in the lobby *directly next to the TSA check in* was a vending machine with sodas. I thought "Oh, I'll grab one and bring it on the plane to drink". Bought it, walked 20 feet back to the TSA line, and they said "You can't bring in outside liquids". MOTHERFUCKER IT'S YOUR LIQUID, YOU SOLD IT TO ME D:
busterfixxitt
"Hey! You can't arrest me if I'm proving your rules inconsistent!" - from the rollover text
Xenarion
Yeah, better put that potentially dangerous liquid in the trash can in the most crowded area of the airport, along with the other potentially dangerous liquids.
DrEgg
...next to the box of sharp pointy things and possibly explosive objects - homemade claymore anyone?
SubTrout
TSA is hoarding all the jungle juice for themselves.
cepacolusmaximus
Welcome to the airport! Please enjoy our ongoing encore presentation of "Security Theatre!"
greatn0rth
the thing about security theater is that it actually works, though. The *appearance* of security serves to deter virtually all threats.
Septcanmat
[citation needed]
Xerxes4242
Nah, it's just fucking annoying. It's annoying to take your shoes off, it's annoying you can't have a soda or bottle of water, it's annoying when some dickhead on a power trip yells at you because you forgot to take your tablet out of your bag. The pre 9/11 world was better.
cepacolusmaximus
greatn0rth
I'm not saying it's BETTER than actual effective security, I'm just saying that it, funny enough, does actually have an effect. Because would-be offenders see "security" and reconsider even attempting to do whatever it is the were trying.
ParaspriteHugger
I have an awesome tiger repelling rock to sell you...
thesceptre
HP Elitebooks 2017 ~ 2022 had large numbers of swollen battery issues. our work issued devices... the IT department said, not warranty, just a common consumable. what a load of manure. if the device had a removable battery cover, it was highly likely to have a swollen battery issue.
meatsmokertx
My friend doesn't understand what is going on
HelpfulCorn
The battery has gone bad and can easily cause a fiery explosion
meatsmokertx
Oooo gotcha. Ty
BrigidtheMechLady
My last phone did that. I pulled it out of the case for the first time in a long while and it was nearly 1/8" thicker in the middle than at the ends. The weird thing is it was working fine.
gablestout
It may have been working fine but battery bulge in a lithium battery means a chemical reaction is or has taken place inside the battery. You want to replace a bulged battery immediately, because they are prone to leaks or fire in the future
BrigidtheMechLady
I did. I left my office and replaced the phone immediately
SerialChickenLover
I’m definitely not turning on my computer for TSA. Get a warrant, asshole.
RanOutofWit
Unfortunately in Australia they gave border agents the right to "search any document", and court rulings decided that digital media counts as "documents". So if you ever go through Aus customs they can demand access to your laptop, phone, and other digital media and do not need a warrant to do so. Bunch of cunts, imo.
dripstone
that's nothing. I've seen those look like a waterbed
PrincessNausicaa
Every airport I've flown through recently has had big signs up saying that all electronics in hand luggage have to have their batteries and be in working order, so I am really surprised they let her fly.
Stonemarter
Why would all electronic things should have a battery? So, i have build a prototype of a video board, and want to show it somewhere else, i have to hook up a battery to keep it with me in a airplane
ashcans
It’s to prevent people gutting a laptop or similar device and using it as a case for a bomb/drugs/etc. If it turns on properly it’s a fast check that all the bits are there without forcing people to disassemble things. She was likely flagged because the scan didn’t see the expected profile of the battery. If you have a device this doesn’t work for, or parts, you can expect a more thorough screening and probably a swab test.
Kingsdotter
Last part of this speculates as to why. Maybe it's because the battery can be replaced with explosives. But why can you have it in you checked in baggage then? Hmmmm. smh.
https://www.staffordshire-live.co.uk/news/uk-world-news/little-known-rule-taking-mobile-7432626
YouMayFindThisMildlyInteresting
Because it's security theater. Statistically the biggest threat to an airline passenger is the pilot, either through incompetence or malice.
DeepSpaceNetwork
I once traveled with some prototype electronics with loose wires etc, it almost looked like a hollywood-style bomb prop... Since I rarely fly, I didn't think about it before. The security people didn't care much, they did a quick swab check and let me through. It didn't have a battery and couldn't be powered on at all without plugging it into some bigger system...
SLCtechie
This is actually an intended safety feature. Once the battery is damaged, it balloons like this to disable the danger so that you can safely use it as a pillow on your long flight.
Be sure to follow me for more totally safe and not made up tech life hacks.
Unfriendly
And when you are done with your nap you can just pop the pillow with scissors for easy packing.
chunguswangus
Skr121
Once
Northwindlowlander
As the great poets Cornershop once wrote, everyone needs a boom for a pillow
MrPappagiorgioFromYuma
Bubblewrapiscool
Hahah, you had me in the first half
DocBeeblebrox
Spicy pillow!
Stonemarter
Wakey, wakey, rise and shine!
Efreeti
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygvDO9_XLOI
FuckmotheringxVampire
That looks pretty explodey. My kids get laptops from the school, aparently a bunch of kids are having issues with the keyboards popping up because of battery swelling. The school pretty much just tells them to take better care of the laptops or they will have to pay to replace them...
neverborne
I had a cellphone that did this. It took two replacement batteries (so three total) ballooning like this for my dad to believe that it was the phone itself and not me "overcharging" it
Jeebuz
Sounds like shit tech admins. That's my (pretty new to me) job now and it would be ridiculous to play off a trend like that. The battery in general isn't something that a childs use is going to affect unless there's some kind of liquid damage or gross mechanical damage. Do you have any idea what model Chromebooks? Curious if we use the same or similar.
BarryTheCyborg
I'd skip the school and report it right to the manufacturer and see if they'll issue a recall since the issue sounds widespread. If not, report it to the cpsc. https://www.saferproducts.gov/
melni
What the school has done is give the kids a bomb and tell them if it explodes it's the kids fault.
ShiftingPattern
My Gen 1 Surface Book had the same issue. They didn't want to replace it, so I told them I was just going to hang out at the front of the Microsoft Store with it prominently displayed for the rest of the day. Funny how quick they found a spare when they realized I was serious.
Spidey209
Give it back to the school and tell them you refuse to take responsibility for it.
shadoh702
I preface by saying it's not the kids' fault or anything like that, likely the laptop is overcharging the battery. But one way to prevent swelling batteries is to make sure you discharge them to around 50% each day so they're not always at 100%. In fact, if the laptop has the ability to stop at 80%, this will help a lot.
ThisNameIsMaybeTaken
Too many electrons in the battery causes it to swell up.
JerzeeTomato
Teacher here: can confirm, except we don't blame the kids. We just send them out for repair and give the kid a different Chromebook.
Soggybathroomsock
Happened to my Macbook Pro. Paid a fortune for that thing and was completely ruined. Just outside warranty. Never bought anything Apple since.
Bubbells
MacBooks? Ours was a MacBook air and it had this problem.
FuckmotheringxVampire
More like $100 chromebooks
TheGlow
Yes, we had some HP's and with all the Work from home from covid, people just left them plugged into, constantly charging. We were swapping 2-6 batteries a month for a little bit.
VitaminJay
My school had an Apple ][e and they quite literally kept it locked in a closet in the principals office like this was state secrets.
JellyGlonut
This happened with my old MacBook Pro. Battery swelled up under the touchpad and it wouldn’t click anymore.
Type17
There was a recall on some models, including mine (a mid-2015, 15"), noticed some swelling and got it changed, fine ever since. Ironically, my wife's one (from 2013) wasn't part of the recall, and the battery is still fine - I'm using it to post this now.
JellyGlonut
Yea mine was from 2011. I ended up just removing the battery and leaving the charging cable plugged in lol
fractalsphere
No that's terrible advice! If the batteries are puffing out, they're risking a battery fire in every students home.
FuckmotheringxVampire
Most of the government is pretty red so they probably see that as a win
Richter12x2
Yeah, we were aware, lol
dannyisaphantom
Oooooh my god screw that. If your kids computers start to swell please consider sending a letter with proof of delivery to the school so there is no question of them being made aware bc that’s actually terrifying
The (cheap particle board) dresser my laptop sat on caused a ton of damage to the apartment wall and outlet that ate the entire $1k security deposit
Arrrrgggggghhhh
Like 50% of our laptops (Toshiba) at my work did that within 12 months, and that was just the ones bad enough to cause issues with the keyboard/touchpad.
FluxSagrie
get it in writting and fight that, that is asking for trouble.
CrusherOfDreams
We had to deal with this recently. Thankfully we're not too bad off so we purchased a chromebook outright and just keep the school one unplugged and unused on a shelf until it's time to return it. Easier on us and our kiddo since the one they make you lease is like 25lbs and the one we bought is barely 1lb.
FuckmotheringxVampire
I'm pretty sure the school also prohibits the use of other computers at school, so it ends up more of a pain for them to have to switch computers between home and school. That being said, I did tell them that if their keyboard starts popping off, I'll take it back to the school myself to get it swapped, and I won't take any of their shit.
CrusherOfDreams
Ours does too, much longer story short - got it OK'd by the principal after I showed them a video of what happens when a lithium ion battery ignites in the backpack of a child (safety videos on youtube). A few emails and 1:1s later, just generally being present and advocating for my child, and now she's able to use the laptop we purchased exclusively.
FuckmotheringxVampire
That is a good idea, though unfortunately the current principal is more of a used car salesperson than effective administrator.
Qualtagh
I suspect a local newspaper is the only hope, then
Kiares
Drag them screaming to the guillotine, we gotta start somewhere.
CrusherOfDreams
That's really a shame, but there's always another rung up the ladder. I know I'd personally eat and excrete anyone in the way of my child's safety.
DAAHOOVAA
A "runaway thermal event" with a lithium-ion battery is truly a sight to behold....preferably not in person.
YpsilantiRomani
Mythbusters kid, (or what ever it was called) did an episode on this, terrifying
TheGhostMinx
Had it happen at work once. They evacuated an entire area because of the fire and smoke. Someone ran over a battery with a forklift.
DavidBrooker
"Is there a risk of my battery detonating" "Oh, absolutely not" - *sounds of pained screaming* - "the risk of conflagration is very high, though"
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
We had one happen with a cell phone battery and to this day I have no idea how we did not set off the halon system. Scary shit that night 5 years ago
TheOnlyPtylerdactyl
My elderly parents gave my then 2 year old an old flip cell phone to play with some years ago. As soon as I discovered this I took it outside, popped open the back and tossed the battery into an empty metal trash can. Thing looked puffier than the pic here tbh
Idonotbelievewehavecompany
yikes
nasukkin
Also very hard to stop. I read a news article recently about a Tesla fire that took 50k gal. of water to extinguish once the battery popped off.
chaosundivided
...well yeah, lithium reacts violently with water, producing hydrogen gas and heat. do not use water.
WorkerLurker
I’ve had to remove 6 of these this year alone.
Blethigg
And definitely not on a plane
zqwzzle
For those unfamiliar see UPS flight 6 for how horrific it can be. https://admiralcloudberg.medium.com/alone-in-the-inferno-the-crash-of-ups-airlines-flight-6-507d13f3e481
iMcFly
The smell. I’ll never forget the smell.
spookyactionatadistance
The smell is great after. It has real staying power as well
ColmCorbec
darthinebriated
And that, boys and girls, is why we don't let the magic smoke out.
PerpetuityPhoto
Yup. Dead short. Two sheets of the lithium make contact, which creates a lot of heat, which causes more contact, which causes more heat, and it takes surprisingly little time to get to the point of "That one guy's mix tape".
delahunt
All the while spewing toxic gas iirc.
PerpetuityPhoto
I mean, as a rule, you prooooooobably shouldn't be huffing the fumes of ANY fire, but fires involving plastics or metals, you should definitely avoid breathing those.
HandoB4Javert
I can smell that from here
manulofdoom
Congrats on the lung cancer
JeanLucguizamos
It really has three distinct escalations like oh... OH.... OH SHIT!
ghostofGracchusBabeuf
It’s like a firework! Emphasis on the fire.
Bobbobbobobbananafanafobob
The fire is from the souls escaping back to hell
bippityboppitybuttsex
I do a lot of RC cars, and seeing a 12000mah lipo get punctured is, um, an event.... 1/1000th what's in a Tesla...
MMX2019
depending on the model. The China-manufactured Model3 pioneered the LiFePo4-batteries - more weight, but no burny-burny when crashy-crushy. Only when they are reeeeally damaged they will go to, but much, much slower.
I've seen LiFePo4 battery packs for campers being thrown from roofs while fully charged. Slammed on the ground, casing broke, cells flying, that was it. No fire, no spectacle, nothing.
Wouldn't want to try that with a Li-ion pack...
MotherfuckingJesseEisenburg
(LiFePO4 is a Lithium Iron Phosphate)
DAAHOOVAA
lol I love your username.
valen00
And the tesla has 1/100th the energy of a gasoline car, you ever see what happens when a plastic fuel tank catches fire and the burning liquid fuel runs past other cars on its way to a drain? Lithium fire is a delight in comparison. It stays pretty much in the one spot and burns, it doesn't spread. Go through drains, under doors all that stuff.
bippityboppitybuttsex
Yep... and you know what fire departments can do with one tanker truck? Put out a gasoline car fire... mostly because of the design of gas tanks prevents them from exploding (they do burn and can burn for awhile).
You know what they can't do with a Tesla? Put out a car fire... electric car fires are rare, but when they happen, shit gets very real, very fast.
chansuke
When I raced RC I saw a number of very nice cars taken out by hellfire right there on the track. Always a moment of silence in the driver stand to watch $1k go up in smoke. I only do the rc crawlers now, so it's much less of a concern. Only thing I use lipos in now that slightly spooks me is airsoft guns, since those batteries wind up near my face.
bippityboppitybuttsex
My job exists so I can transfer wealth to BoomRacing.... Just built their Series II 88... leaf springs are weird in a crawler.
chansuke
I refuse to have a crawler with leafs just because I hated dealing with them on full size rigs. My crawlers are both extremely modified axial SCXs, one of which is an OG SCX10 from 2011 thats still kicking. I also have one of their 1/24 crawlers that's currently in pieces as a backburner project for 3d printing parts.
bippityboppitybuttsex
I also have a Shock absorber BRX02... and their 6x6... TBH, my favorites are the new 1/18th FMS land rovers... they are more fun to drive....
I also have a gold-pan OG RC10 that I bought in 1989... it is now brushless and completely insane.
MisterLemons
LiFePo4 pretty much solved that entirely and the only real drawback is roughly 30-50% less storage capacity per unit of mass.
cbale2000
Funny how safety and energy density always seem to work as an inverse relationship like that.
MisterLemons
There's a correlation there but not a rule.
Lithium Polymer cells are measurably more reactive than lithium ion while boasting a lower energy density.
Lithium Iron Phosphate has the same density as Lithium Polymer and is the polar opposite side of the spectrum from a safety standpoint.