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hellospacemonkey
Replace "Cable Giant Cable One" with any healthcare company and "community-funded broadband" with "universal healthcare"
trippingthelightfantastic
rubypilgrim
have you got a workable plan for what to replace it with? If not, may I suggest Henry George's "Progress and Poverty"?
AsheLake
Parecon?
thedtp
alaest0r
yoyo42
Back in the day I tried to set up a rural WiFi ISP because ADSL was years away. Just before we launched Big Telecom changed their plans.
BrownestofCoats
SybilCrawley
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LargeAlbatross
Cable One spent YEARS if not decades making sure no competition existed in my area. IIRC they got in trouble for shady shit with easements.
nccomputermechanics4
We got fiber here but it nearly didn't happen because spectrum internet started a smear campaign the fiber is way better we switched.
unluckyandbored
Broadband Internet should be taxpayer-funded and government-operated. It should not be sold for profit.
ReverseSyzygy
Whoops! All capitalist pigs!
Fedotia
In normal country, such infrastructures are public and/or barred from monopolies.
HybridRifter
think about it: why does providing internet service keep getting more and more expensive is the infrastructure has already been constructed?
HybridRifter
Yes, not every building has internet yet, but a mass majority does, yet it gets more and more expensive....its theft
Trelis
They can do it by providing better service for a competitive price. Not holding my breath waiting for that to happen.
quzar
That sounds harder and more expensive than suppressing competition.
mardukkur
"overbuilds" Oh god fuck that asshole so much.
CheeseDanish444
That word stood out the most to me as well- "If they are allowed to do that we will have to make an effort to compete, or leave the market!"
quzar
A bit tangential, but TechDirt is an amazing and underappreciated news resource.
ChewyTheWookie
The whole thing's publicly funded. They just started to pretend they own it and we just assumed they did. All they own is politicians who /
ChewyTheWookie
we the people let them start buying... rather recently. We change that back before we can't anymore.
ChewyTheWookie
DeucesMongooses
I moved specifically to a city that runs their own fiber. It’s great
PulpyOJ
This happened in NC when the City of Wilson created their own broadband network after telecoms refused to upgrade their own service to…
PulpyOJ
…attract new businesses. Lobbyists were successful in getting legislators to ban any future deployment of municipal-owned broadband.
LuminoZero
Then the voters should burn Congress down and hang those legislators from the flag pole.
rubypilgrim
how will this address corruption? We have the death penalty but ppl still commit murders.
leodavinci1
So, it's anarchy then... or some form of authoritarianism?
rubypilgrim
Those would likely be our options if we don't put some thought into this.
LuminoZero
Death is a FANTASIC deterrent for greed.
rubypilgrim
we just get more greedy ppl, just like we get more murderers.
YeastInfectedWhiskerBiscuit
We have fiber being set up in my apt community. No more Comcast!!!
Energytwo
We really should have fiber internet everywhere. I don't care if it is costly. Just get it done and we should be set for decades.
Applewhite5
Whoops capitalism is fucking horseshit. Reject exploitation, embrace communism.
RedLetterMediaReactionGifs
Democratic socialism*
Applewhite5
I said what I meant
rubypilgrim
uhhh communism kinda sucked, what with Stalin and the rest of his crowd. Maybe we might want to put some more thought into this.
Applewhite5
Ok get this. Let's look at all the bad things Stalin did—and here's the brilliant bit—we don't put those things into our communist system.
OfficialTrollInspector
Stalin's Communism should be thought of as similar to Putin's Capitalism.
Applewhite5
The Russian communist party kind of sucked, yes. But if you think the Soviets had a system where the workers owned the means of production
Applewhite5
you are EXTREMELY misinformed. The soviet system, as described by Lenin himself, was State Capitalism.
Masinx
Balanced socialism? It might work if we're open to it.
rubypilgrim
I keep babbling about Henry George and his "Progress and Poverty" - ppl know about the Magna Carta but not so much about the Charter of -
rubypilgrim
the Forest. The former deals with nobles, the latter with the rights of "free tenants", to restrict the abuses of the "nobility". -
rubypilgrim
We don't need to settle for pre-packaged options ("capitalism OR communism/socialism"). Worth putting some research and thought into this.
zanaria
At this point in time the internet should be like roads or healthcare... Except actually maintained...
Flraven
I find your expectations to be a little high.
webtekprime
I wish I was that high……
zanaria
Just like all the people in government when they vote on things...