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"Everybody is so obsessed with bodybuilding. We need to start building our minds before we have a country filled with a bunch of strong dumb motherfuckers." -George Carlin
whatifgodwasoneofus
Too late, George.
ShimmerinStrider
I miss George.
squintish
This was also the concept behind busing kids to racially integrate schools in America. Unfortunately it didn’t really catch on.
RetrogradeLlama
But, bu, but... education is liberal indoctrination!!! The con-dolt minions believe that, as taught by their handlers, so they avoid it.
Santorrr
This is somewhat accurate. The rich don't "invest" in schools, it's all paid with tax money. Look up the history of the system, it's cool
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
In Italy if you went to public school, you find job. If you’re too dumb you PAY to finish school in private institution, which means (1/2)
AsAnItalianItsDifficultTalkingOnTheWebCauseIcantUseMyHands
(2/2) the diploma you BOUGHT certifies you’re too dumb to finish school normally. So unless daddy gives u their company, u won’t have a job
zanaria
The US never was the best country in the world... Also... sorry George... Too late on that one... though not even so much strong...
cbale2000
Implying rich kids wouldn't just get sent to a boarding school outside of Finland
Neilikka
They aren't actually or at least it is very rare. No need for that. Many go to the university abroad, but that is not only rich people.
bolinotoyou
Pretty straightforward logic
RandomFinnishPerson
Also free school lunch.
Huor
From what I understand, Finland elevates equality in education to a level North Americans would never in a million years tolerate.
KleptoKea
Finland shouldn't need to take a bow for common sense. Certain other countries should just catch the fuck up already.
Filanwizard
Fees for tuition is basically double dipping IMO.
Filanwizard
So you pay tuition and then pay fees to pay tuition
Filanwizard
Oh wait they mean charging for higher Ed is illegal. Here in the US you have tuition plus other fees at times.
NotaCPA
This was why Nigeria's education system was the best in Africa in the 70-80's...then some fuckers decided to use the American model 2
NotaCPA
because what are wealthy kids going to learn from poor children. Then vouchers for private school. it took 20 years but public school is a 3
NotaCPA
joke...and you can find a private school that will cater to any religion and most levels of income. Not all educations are equal
BossaNossa
I’ve heard of cheap to almost zero tuition PhD situations in Europe—- grateful for direction, y’all-
elinveronicap
PhD positions in Sweden are paid positions, you don't pay tuition, you get a salary.
MotorMeyerFromMars
Same here in Denmark, thought it was like that everywhere.
ThisNameIsNotAboutYou
How do they avoid wealthy people buying houses in areas with good schools?
Luizero
Our school follow certain standards so there is no good and bad schools. All are pretty much the same. Except on rural areas where there ->
Luizero
Is not much kids so kids from different ages are teached is same class.
MajorNikon
JohnnyWalkerTexas
As Sweden is crumbling and none of our party leaders impress me at all, Finland - plz adopt us.
Peachcappuccino
Technically wouldn't their gov be investing in the schools, not the rich? They likely have fairer taxes.
plutonium
Yes, but the rich don't oppose these investments at the ballot box.
whatshouldicallit
Furthermore, every kid gets appointed to a specific school so parents can’t just pick the one they like.
elinveronicap
I heard they deliberately build schools so they'll cover areas of different socioeconomic status.
ICannotSanctionURBuffoonery
And in the US, dumb white trash are outraged that their white child might accidently learn about black history as part of US history.
JamesAHarrod
As an American, I’d be all for that
Whitebeardthepirate
but then the corporate owners wouldn't like that
ataraxia007
It's kinda the opposite in Chicago- education spending comes directly from property tax -so the richest neighborhoods have the best schools
BluePeaSoup
The American schools system is a mess. Real question though, how are Finish schools? I know nothing about it.
Huhwhatcrazy
Finnish school children score better in English tests than Americans do ...
stondeed
Free lunches until 18-19 yrs old is pretty nice. Education is free incl. universities. Education is supported financially in many ways, 9/10
MonStar1203
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Finland
dudethisbetternotbetaken
I'm also all for that. I'd like to not have to spend my tax return on supplies for my students because of yearly budget cuts.
nobletrex
I wrote an essay about this for a college class. It’s the best right answer to the problem. Making the the rich accept it is another one
trippingthelightfantastic
drunkdeadlock
This aged painfully well.
tupacshomie
Finland literally has a list of banned books, google it. And popular action movies https://inktank.fi/finland-bans-the-darndest-things/
RandomFinnishPerson
Had, there are no banned movies or books at the moment.
tupacshomie
So every single thing on the link that I posted that was a literal list of banned things in Finland are all OK now?
tupacshomie
I love how I make a statement along with a source link and get 10 downvotes. You say the opposite with no source and get 10 upvotes. ?
RandomFinnishPerson
The first 2 are, as said on the article, not banned anymore. The last 2 are true.
SkinnyChubbyChaser
Laws related to alcohol are dumb af in here. But I'll take "free" education over liquorice pipes.
tupacshomie
My point was more about, yes, some states (NOT the US) is banning books. But so is Finland. And other things. Both seem dumb. No one is perf
paulwall117350
I do hibachi and I said this out loud in front of a board member of a rich private school. Talked my way out of a tip, but fuck the rich.
BubblesTheFish
Let's be real, you probably weren't getting a generous tip from someone like that anyways.
atomicsockmonkey
Now show them why you never piss off the person handling your food.
NickRivieraMD
I feel like they kinda proved your point
Hyero
You don't get rich tipping, so maybe not.
NickRivieraMD
how depressing
J4nein4ne
Fuck the rich, marry the middle class, kill the poor? No, wait... we might need to alter this game.
J4nein4ne
Kill the rich, feed and educate the poor, strengthen the middle class? That's... better...
elmesito
Kill the rich, butt then the middle class become the rich - kill them - Then the poor are the new rich. Kill them too.
J4nein4ne
So just... kill everyone?
Mahnahn
Did you at least hit them repeatedly in the face with food while trying to get a piece in their mouth?
zHurk777
The wealthy get mad because a big chunk of their property taxes go towards public school, but wealthy also pay for private school. Hilarious
IfYouDontChewBigRedThenFYou
Grew up poor but had a family member who worked at the rich kid school so I got to go for free. There was clear social divide between
IfYouDontChewBigRedThenFYou
students like me and ones whose parents have vast amounts of money. Kids like me got booted out for being off campus at the wrong time
IfYouDontChewBigRedThenFYou
Rich kids did things like drink booze on campus, get sheets of acid in the pages of a magazine in the mail and sodomize non consenting
IfYouDontChewBigRedThenFYou
freshman with broom handles without repercussions from the school. One maniac multi-millionaire kid pounding anothers face with fists of
IfYouDontChewBigRedThenFYou
large gold rings because he joked about Alabama losing to Auburn that one year in the early 2010s. He still got to graduate
OuchMouse
Living up to the title of The People’s Champ !
theangryjanitor
Everyone should have at least five stories like that to be able to feel good about themselves.
paulwall117350
Oh yeah I make it a point to mention unions, democratic socialist policies, and whole-hearted American heroes who supported them like Pete
paulwall117350
Seeger, Woody Guthrie, Martin Luther King, etc. I try my best no matter how many landlords I'm talking to to mention that landlords are
paulwall117350
leeches, and I always try my best to mention that literally every other developed country besides the US has universal healthcare.
paulwall117350
I live in a poor area and drive a long way to work in a rich area just to be able to not afford rent, so making the rich uncomfortable is my
chormin
I changed my screensaver at work to be my hourly rate bouncing around the screen. Fun talk with HR.
UsernamesAreStupidAnyways
Hope you made it clear to them that it's illegal to prevent discussion of wages.
whitefoxkei
Why would HR care about your screensaver? lol
chormin
I work in a lab with 12 or so people, they thought I was trying to make people upset by bringing up pay disparity
magicrhombus
Some companies (illegally) try to stop employees from discussing compensation.
ZaphodBbx
In the US there is no federal education, that's a state function...as specified by the Constitution...People who talk about US education...
ZaphodBbx
...as if it was a single entity, whether American or foreign, are ignorant of that reality. I'd vote to amend that, but it's not happening.
Smidge204
There IS a federal Dept. of Education, though, who could be putting pressure on state schools...
Chiner
It's also on state level in Germany instead of federal. That's not really an excuse.
eggmuffin
So... the same as pretty much every other country, then? We all have regional governance.
BlueBarnstormer
That's a gross oversimplification. The Feds clearly have a role in education and are a major source of funding.
Smacketywack
Northern and Western Europe in general have a more enlightened approach to education than we (US) do. They know that investing in education
otiumCatulli
Tbf education in the UK is also fucked.
Smacketywack
for EVERYONE is an investment in the country and the future. Instead we’re Darwinian about it and figure privilege begets privilege.
LurkerOfDarkness
Yeah, we tried that in NW Europe, it doesn't work out long term for the masses. It just creates problems that pile up and leads to war.
darkdragonempress
The most fucked up thing is that we had that same idea too. We were getting better. Then we started going downhill thanks to assholes.
PosthumousExile
Yeah. We're fucked. We're barreling towards Idiocracy if we don't do something 10 years ago
TheWombatStrikesAgain
And healthcare, imprisonment, gun control... most of the US' problems seem to be rooted in merciless profit maximization.
Smacketywack
This is a valid observation/criticism. The US is a very capitalistic country. Oligarchs have managed to infiltrate our federal government.
Eramik
By "infiltrate", do you mean "buy"?
ManhattanHarper
You can’t make those comparisons folks. After living there there years I cannot tell you how much Europeans DO NOT welcome foreigners.
Cataleast
The only reason anyone I know wouldn't welcome a foreigner would be if that foreigner was an arsehole. Nationality has nothing to do with it
ManhattanHarper
You obviously don’t know European immigration system and labor laws. USA welcomes 1 million immigrants per year, Europe can’t even get close
ManhattanHarper
*won’t even get close. The continent couldn’t handle 1 million Syrian refugees over two years
fordon
Where can I find info that rich families invest in schools? Afaik it’s the state that invests in schools via taxes.
Cataleast
That's basically it. People just don't mind paying a bit more in taxes because it ensures their kids get a proper education.
fordon
Totally depends on where the taxes are going. But then this post isn’t true. Rich people doesn’t invests in school in Finland.
Cataleast
It's worded in a weird way for sure, but taxes are essentially investing in public schools among other things.
fordon
It’s like giving creds to rich people when they shouldn’t have any. Give creds to the government and the state instead which have earned it.