I love this movie so so much. Absolutely perfect use of William Hurt being despondent and weird, Jennifer Connolly being being alluring, Rufus Sewell being handsome and confused and Kiefer Southerland being an evil scientist.
just commented on a post about event horizon about this ; I feel like people are using "underrated" incorrectly instead if using "underviewed" or "unnoticed"
Matrix got all the credit back then but this movie and the Thirteenth Floor were awesome hidden gems, which came out around the same time as the Matrix
Really liked this! The subgenre is known as “Technoir”, a mix of sci-fi and film noir. Check out the movie that started the trend, “Alphaville” (1965). It is equally good and you can find it for free on YouTube
Underrated? It's certified fresh on rt and has a 75-90% everywhere else. Even Roger Ebert gave it a good score when it came out so it's not like it was critically panned at the time.
That's not what underrated means. If it was critically panned, then yes it would be underrated, but it wasn't. It was poorly received in 1998 but it's not like people don't know about the movie today. It's in literally everyone's top 10 sci-fi list, it absolutely is not an underrated movie lmao
Most people today use "underrated" to mean "it deserved more praise than it got" or "a lot of the criticism it got was unwarranted". They don't literally mean "the object in question received ratings lower than it deserved by official or professional raters". You can disagree on the word is used, but as to what people meant by using it, I think there's little to be argued about concerning this particular film.
Ok great, neither of those definitions apply because it wasn't panned by audiences or critics, less people saw it than the matrix which is par for the course for a sci-fi film in theaters. You're looking for a word that means "more people should have watched this when it released" and "underrated" is not that word.
Which cut did you watch? They dubbed her in the botched theatrical cut, but she actually sings herself in the director's cut, which works brilliantly in the context of the story.
That's typically the case. Producers get involved and want movies explained. They did that to Bladerunner. The director's cut removed the opening narration.
It's not just a feeling, that was a last minute change imposed by the studio because they were afraid people wouldn't get it by the time the plot became obvious
I saw this right before matrix in the late 90s and thought both had very similar concepts, even though they are obviously extremely different. Great movie
After watching Dark City it seemed very likely that inspiration was taken in the creation of The Matrix. I think it’s awesome when I can see creative links between projects through the ages.
Dark City came out in 1998, Matrix in 1999. I doubt they could watch a movie, take inspiration, write a script, film, edit, and get it out in a year. Much more likely both films had some overlapping sources of inspiration?
If the beginning started with a voice-over or text explaining the premise, it wasn't the director's cut. The director's cut is the better film, in many ways, but also because it preserves the mystery of what's happening instead of spoiling it immediately.
Director's cut is... darker? Like it was color corrected to be darker. It also cuts out the opening narration, it also rounds out some relationships a bit better and shows John using his powers a little more. I dunno, it just makes for a better movie IMO
Is it longer? I think the main thing I didn't like about the movie is that the second half wraps up too quickly. It does a fantastic job in the first half in building up this mysterious city, then the second half is like "yadda yadda yadda, the good guy beats the bad guys, the end"
Good movie, aptly rated. If people could stop calling things they like underrated, that'd be great. You could record a donkey farting in a tin can and someone on youtube will call it underrated, guaranteed.
A donkey farting in a can is significantly more unique and rare that just a video of a human farting. Ive seen random videos of people farting, as have we all at some point, no interest in seeing another. But Ive never seen a donkey fart into a can. I cant rate it, having not seen it, ill have to without my review, but it seems more than plausible that a donkey farting into a can WOULD be underrated.
Virtually all sci-fi fans know about this movie and like it. Does it have what it takes to become a pop culture staple? Obviously not. I don't think it's underrated.
Well that's because a video of someone trying to get a donkey to fart into a can, would likely be legitimately funny. Please remove the stick from your backside good sir.
Correct, but I aslo literally saw his mouth move, as I was in the same room. He was trying to be cool and edgy. I pointed out that he was 9 when Iron Man came out, and wasn't even born when studios started taking comic books seriously, so his point of reference was wildly flawed.
bladderinfection
“I found a way out!” *jumps in front of a subway train*
blagon
Last time I watched this it was on Apple TV and it played the theatrical cut, which ruins in the movie in the first two minutes.
SavageDrums
I fucking love Dark City.
NinjaForHire77
I love this movie so so much. Absolutely perfect use of William Hurt being despondent and weird, Jennifer Connolly being being alluring, Rufus Sewell being handsome and confused and Kiefer Southerland being an evil scientist.
sabrinadiesatdawn
I'm not sure Dark City is under-rated; it's regularly listed as one of the top sci-fi films of the 1990s
MisuseOfLiterally
just commented on a post about event horizon about this ;
I feel like people are using "underrated" incorrectly instead if using "underviewed" or "unnoticed"
dark city is rated very fairly by fans
GreenMnM
I wasn't a huge fan of it but only bc of the genre more than anything else. Otherwise a very unique film and worth at least one watch
Calmevir
Avoid the theatrical cut if possible. If you can't avoid it, mute the movie until you can see the pocketwatch. Much better experience.
abidikgubidik
Matrix got all the credit back then but this movie and the Thirteenth Floor were awesome hidden gems, which came out around the same time as the Matrix
sme2812
The 13th Floor was great, true! And the Cardigans video clip for Erase/Rewind had a scene that wasn't even in the movie, IIRC
graehall
Mr. Book
EveryGOPAccusationIsActuallyAnAdmission
Such a great movie!
legoeater82
Did anyone figure out the Easter egg game on the dvd? Dear Imgur, am I old?
RayneOfSalt
A movie with a 76% critic and 85% audience score is not "underrated".
Feralkyn
It might be if the vast majority of people have never *heard* of it. Ratings are by those who have. I'd never heard of this movie until this post.
EnterEgregore
Really liked this! The subgenre is known as “Technoir”, a mix of sci-fi and film noir.
Check out the movie that started the trend, “Alphaville” (1965). It is equally good and you can find it for free on YouTube
mak10z
Shut it down! Shut it down FOREVER!
PriestofThor
I say this anytime I shut something down.
lrkrnd
One of the all time best
thedeliberatemyth
THIS. SO. GOOD.
StormsAreGreat
One of my favorite movies!
TheCrustIsThickInside
Sleep...now.
Trunkmonkay
Underrated? It's certified fresh on rt and has a 75-90% everywhere else. Even Roger Ebert gave it a good score when it came out so it's not like it was critically panned at the time.
Malloon
It's underrated because most audiences didn't see it and most people still don't know about it.
Trunkmonkay
That's not what underrated means. If it was critically panned, then yes it would be underrated, but it wasn't. It was poorly received in 1998 but it's not like people don't know about the movie today. It's in literally everyone's top 10 sci-fi list, it absolutely is not an underrated movie lmao
MisuseOfLiterally
ive been saying this also on a few threads these days. Underrated does not mean what ppl have been using it for
Malloon
Most people today use "underrated" to mean "it deserved more praise than it got" or "a lot of the criticism it got was unwarranted". They don't literally mean "the object in question received ratings lower than it deserved by official or professional raters". You can disagree on the word is used, but as to what people meant by using it, I think there's little to be argued about concerning this particular film.
Trunkmonkay
Ok great, neither of those definitions apply because it wasn't panned by audiences or critics, less people saw it than the matrix which is par for the course for a sci-fi film in theaters. You're looking for a word that means "more people should have watched this when it released" and "underrated" is not that word.
RodDaniels
Underappreciated, if you feel like being pedantic.
YippeeKayakOB
Brazil 1985, also a highly underrated steampunk movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKPFC8DA9_8
lovepuppy
jennifer connelly's boobs!!!
cyanideremark
more enthralling than her supposed jazz singing in this movie
DdCno1
Which cut did you watch? They dubbed her in the botched theatrical cut, but she actually sings herself in the director's cut, which works brilliantly in the context of the story.
cyanideremark
Obvs. the wrong one. But thanks for pointing out. Wouldn't take much for me to forgive her though.
Bludabeagle
Oh...YEAHHHHH...... it is one (1) of My Favorite 'Dark' Sci-Fi movies!!!
vman2000
No more Mr. Quick.
RatsLiveOnNoEvilStar
Watching this movie at a young an impressionable age is what got me interested in Philosophy.
VitaminJay
I was 10 minutes late to the showing, and it drastically improved the movie.
DdCno1
They fixed this in the director's cut.
VitaminJay
Yeah, I got that copy. Such a better film for it.
That opening really feels like the studio demanded it be done.
SlyMrFox
Reminds me of how Brazil has multiple versions, too. Like the studio mandated happy ending version.
MishunKontrol
That's typically the case. Producers get involved and want movies explained. They did that to Bladerunner. The director's cut removed the opening narration.
thoushaltnotpass
It's not just a feeling, that was a last minute change imposed by the studio because they were afraid people wouldn't get it by the time the plot became obvious
kimst
I saw this right before matrix in the late 90s and thought both had very similar concepts, even though they are obviously extremely different. Great movie
Bossvoss
I remember someone on here saying “Dark City walked so that the Matrix could run”. It definitely feels that way.
TheIronPenguin
I recall reading that Matrix resused some sets and props from Dark City.
Zeetje
jayborgmann
https://www.slashfilm.com/826796/dark-citys-matrix-connection-goes-deeper-than-its-plot/
kimst
Thanks for the article, interesting read.
ResearchAndDeveloper
After watching Dark City it seemed very likely that inspiration was taken in the creation of The Matrix. I think it’s awesome when I can see creative links between projects through the ages.
KilliK69
The Matrix also took ideas from Proyas' previous movie The Crow.
ResearchAndDeveloper
Oh cool, I have to check that out!
DestinyPrevails
Dark City came out in 1998, Matrix in 1999. I doubt they could watch a movie, take inspiration, write a script, film, edit, and get it out in a year. Much more likely both films had some overlapping sources of inspiration?
Cooper1977
The director's cut is easily in my top 10 movies of all times.
Badsequence
Yep this movie is in my top 10 sci-fi movies of all time well the directors cut is. Not to say the original isn't good also.
bandersnee
Same. This is one of my favorite films. Director's cut is definitely a step up.
StefanR1
I am excited to watch that version. My GF got me it for Christmas.
DmNerd
I’ve seen the movie but I don’t know if it was the director’s cut. Any big differences?
Malloon
If the beginning started with a voice-over or text explaining the premise, it wasn't the director's cut. The director's cut is the better film, in many ways, but also because it preserves the mystery of what's happening instead of spoiling it immediately.
Cooper1977
Director's cut is... darker? Like it was color corrected to be darker. It also cuts out the opening narration, it also rounds out some relationships a bit better and shows John using his powers a little more. I dunno, it just makes for a better movie IMO
Heisanevilgenius
Is it longer? I think the main thing I didn't like about the movie is that the second half wraps up too quickly. It does a fantastic job in the first half in building up this mysterious city, then the second half is like "yadda yadda yadda, the good guy beats the bad guys, the end"
SlyMrFox
Needed the pacing of Equilibrium.
LiarLiarPantsUntier
Agreed. Just a wee bit better overall.
ydwyrd
Cutting out the opening narration is good, it actually spoils the plot of the movie.
AdHominemIsTheBestHominem
Good movie, aptly rated. If people could stop calling things they like underrated, that'd be great. You could record a donkey farting in a tin can and someone on youtube will call it underrated, guaranteed.
EternallyIgnorant
A donkey farting in a can is significantly more unique and rare that just a video of a human farting. Ive seen random videos of people farting, as have we all at some point, no interest in seeing another. But Ive never seen a donkey fart into a can. I cant rate it, having not seen it, ill have to without my review, but it seems more than plausible that a donkey farting into a can WOULD be underrated.
eathotdog
Seriously roger ebert gushed over this movie, it's box office was terri le but just about ever movie nerd out there has heard of it cuz of ebert
thepunchline710
I'm there with you. But I believe they mean it's not as widely popular as it should be, not that people who see it think it's bad.
AdHominemIsTheBestHominem
Virtually all sci-fi fans know about this movie and like it. Does it have what it takes to become a pop culture staple? Obviously not. I don't think it's underrated.
wheretonow
Link please
kinarism
Well that's because a video of someone trying to get a donkey to fart into a can, would likely be legitimately funny. Please remove the stick from your backside good sir.
AdHominemIsTheBestHominem
That stick is there for a reason. You mind your own backside.
spiderzim
PapaSez
Anime fans I'd wager.
AdHominemIsTheBestHominem
It was Johnny Cash with American III - Solitary Man. Such underrated album.
spiderzim
DarkSock
Underrated comment
PourMeAPuppersPlease
demosteness
Underrated comment
Aforaseem
Come on. The correct term, as confirmed above... Is "underrated tin can donkey fart"
DarkSock
I saw them open for Pearl Jam in '97
TheSecondPiewackit
Folks also need to stop saying something is objectively "Shit" when they didn't like it. I saw a kid call Endgame "shit". He was wrong.
Agreement2agree
Wait - is your problem with "shit" or "objectively"? I think we can subjectively call things shit.
TheSecondPiewackit
Objectively shit. Acting as though your opinions are verifiable reality and anyone who likes them is provably wrong about -opinion- and -taste-.
Agreement2agree
Agreed. I thought Endgame was shit (all Avengers movies actually) but that's just my opinion. My kids love those movies.
HypnagogicHallucinations
You literally heard him say it.
TheSecondPiewackit
Correct, but I aslo literally saw his mouth move, as I was in the same room. He was trying to be cool and edgy. I pointed out that he was 9 when Iron Man came out, and wasn't even born when studios started taking comic books seriously, so his point of reference was wildly flawed.
HypnagogicHallucinations
TheSecondPiewackit
Feelin it