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source: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/j5wy8d/the-youtubers-union-is-not-messing-around
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source: https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/j5wy8d/the-youtubers-union-is-not-messing-around
AnonymousBach
Workers of the world unite! You have nothing to lose but your chains!
DesirousYeti
Lawyers, assembllllllllle!
candl2023
LET ME SHOW YOU ITS FEATURES! AHAHAHA!!
dvyii10
Bahahaha hahah
VoxGratus
Sorry people didn't get that reference. Glad I checked if someone had already tried that comment before posting it myself though. :D
AStupidWeeb
meloncanister
soon nations will come to an end and we'll be ruled by the internet. Then the savages will win because we're too insulated to fight back
Seymour974
Is that the guy that makes bows and crossbows out of anything ? i like him , he has a good laugh
dunewarrior
He is. He's awesome!
Burf2You
The union of the snake?
AtsaMattaForMe
is on the climb
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MadeAccountForThis
Jörg Sprave is a badass "Hey guys, welcome to the slingshot channel"
SheckyFeinstein
Youtubers are joining forces with the Foo Fighters
Mikadomea
Where tf are my gangs of NY "For the Union" gifs?!
xelbi1988
Meh. YouTube should start requiring pro. The no one is beholden to advertisers. Its the communities fault for being cheapstakes.
bannedforajoke
You're looking at a member of it. I've not made a single YouTube video since joining as protest. They've been putting ads over my videos
bannedforajoke
Despite not being monetized because I have under 1k subs. I've had enough of this Susan cunt pushing us around.
Csel
Youtube has been taking advantage of acting like a publisher but not following the rules for publishers.
Csel
They control the advertisement and view algorithms without representation, and have virtually no quality control for copyright claims.
gleely
I don't think they actually have ANY quality control for copyright claims. It's fucked. I hope this union works.
Lightningfan813
Welcome to the slingshot channel Hahaha
RipOffTheBandAid
Try bit.tube
Domehammer
Youtube applies its rules like a dictator would. Lets people it likes be fine but can snap at smallest notice slaughtering channels.
IHeartKittyCats
My first thought when I read "Youtube Union" was crybaby bullshit. Then I saw Jorge, and immediately knew it was legit.
Sacurason
Can't blame him after the shit YT did to him.
Polysgone
Are they going to advocate for louder videos with clickbaitier titles and less relevant content?
DragonJak
The only reason they do those things is because they're what's marketable in a bad system like youtube currently has
ThatRandomCanadian
Most of the YouTubers affected are the ones that either don't or had to copy those that do to pay their rent.
tzxAzrael
HAYHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA i mean good luck, too, youtube is pretty shitty and biased... but seriously.. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH
MightyIink
Funny how youtube got a union before game developers did...
TrapsAreIllegal
Yeah, this ain't gonna do shit
LjubljanaJeNajlepseMestoNaSvetu
Yeah if you are not employed you cant realy do any union activeties. Besides the employer has to acknowlage representativety for strikes
harleyrider1365
Yeah you use a free service and make demands. Beggars can be choosers apparently
IcouldntfindmymedsthismorningsoItookyours
It’s not a free service. The viewers are the product of the advertisers.
thatguyinthecomments
I make some money on YouTube. While I get what you’re saying, it’s more that YouTube caters to the advertisers over the people creating 1/2
thatguyinthecomments
content that garners views. YT get trigger happy with demonetizing because an advertiser get upset with what vid their ad was paired with 2
AStupidWeeb
When you're a Youtube collaborator, you sign a contract with Youtube. You make content in exchange for ad revenue.
nevergoingtogiveyouupnevergoingtoletyoudown
Without a competing market they dont have a leg to stand on. Youtube will survive and they wont have any money. Youtube didnt employ them
Prodvengo
Read the article and watch the video. They have a 3 pronged legal strategy which will be tried in German courts, not American ones. (1)
Prodvengo
The GDPR based challenge alone wil be enough to get YouTube to the negotiating table. I suspect EU based YouTubers will get a deal (2)
Prodvengo
that won't be available to American YouTubers. German courts are way more worker/union friendly than American ones. (3)
Csel
Part of the issue is Youtube acting like a publisher but claiming not to be. I think they want fair laws policing publishers for Youtube
112797
Big yikes
buttbuttpartywagon
Welcome to the union, let me show you its features
ICallBullshit
Hey my friend needs you to explain this
savemebabyjebus
OK, i got it
Distractedlurker
I want to hear more about how we can just tell major corporations that we work for them now, and oh yeah we have a union.
IrishWristWatch69
Oh man, I laughed out loud.
LankyBootyGriswald
Came looking for this comment.
DisplacedAnger
Good luck to those guys, they'll need it.
RingSting
(1) I'm subbed to around 200 youtubers, it was my television. They are so demotivated to produce videos that get demonetised instantly...
RingSting
(2) ...they just don't bother anymore. I get 1-2 new videos a day now (unless I click on the shit recommended/spammed at me by youtube).
RingSting
(3) Here's hoping change will happen, for some of these guys it was their main source of income.
thatguyinthecomments
I make a little money on YouTube. Not much. But the videos that I had I would have made anyway because I enjoy it. So for me, any money 1/2
thatguyinthecomments
is icing on the cake. I realize some people rely on it for an income. For me it’s passive extra income. 2/2
CongratsYouAreHereNow
how much do you make and how many views do you need to make that much
thatguyinthecomments
<$100 month. In May I made about $90 and had about 22,000 views.
fryedman
you got a link?
thatguyinthecomments
Oh gosh. This is my second biggest earner. Me in the vid :/ https://youtu.be/N4Hv0EiPulg
Fairdinkums
Anything that goes against YouTube being cunts to people making a living is fine by me. Same goes for Instagram
kakivara
"We are forcing you to let us use your website the way we want to." OK, buddy, good luck.
ChickenFingerFingers
Well, Google/Alphabet workforce is 55% contractor based, which is bullshit. More than half the company is temp workers. I see unions as the
ChickenFingerFingers
only way to start combating companies what should be illegal use of temp employees.
HitlersArtTeacher
Its not their fault advertisers are cracking down and don't want to pay as much
Magpiebones
It's not that, it's companies being way too much into "family friendly" and demanding youtube to be "cleaner and more marketable".
HitlersArtTeacher
And that's their right
Magpiebones
Sure, but that's exactly what killed tv too. They are ruining themselves when they cave into making everything bland and mainstream.
vincentsl
Let them publish boring stuff if they want. You don’t have to watch. They are free to run their company as boring as they want.
velerial
Ehile ues this is wonderful but when will we be able to police the "ads" that they place in their vids. Most common offender the pauls.1/
velerial
Pressing children to buy things and to pester parents into getting things. aggressive preditory sales methods on children to make money 2_
velerial
During the vids on top of ads from other companies as breaks. Its aggressive and manipulative directed at children to try and get them to 3
velerial
Buy things to just make the pestering stop. TV stations and advertisers have regulations on how to handle marketing towards children these 4
velerial
Should be implemented on YouTube as well. Its manipulative and selfish. I get it merch makes you money but reinforcement in the majority 5
warriorofdiscord
Considering YouTube has never made its owners (and I'm not kidding) a profit, I find it hard to empathize with YouTubers on this.
TheyCallMeTheHiphopopotamusIgotFlowsThatGlowLikePhosphorous
Estimated double digits: https://medium.com/@intenex/where-are-you-getting-hard-data-that-youtube-isnt-profitable-a00aed0672ac
TheyCallMeTheHiphopopotamusIgotFlowsThatGlowLikePhosphorous
They do somewhere in the neighborhood of 10 billion and don't disclose how much profit they make but they do (probably) make a good profit
warriorofdiscord
I read your article. I suppose I have been operating under the assumption running such a service is incredibly costly to maintain, something
TheyCallMeTheHiphopopotamusIgotFlowsThatGlowLikePhosphorous
I'm sure it costs billions. Since I have no idea, I couldn't say; merely saying they project "double digit" profits so I'll go with that.
warriorofdiscord
that may entirely not be true. I don't have the original article I read that has me believing YouTube as hardly-profitable, otherwise I'd
warriorofdiscord
share it. At the end of the day, we don't know because Google doesn't disclose. However, I would point to the fact it has no competition as