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lingftw
[citation needed]
BardicLasher
I feel like this is what I'm SUPPOSED to be learning in my communications class.
TachyonCode
Nah. Also, given that all body language is essentially memes, some of it depends on cultural perception, especially if involving charisma.
icouldntagreemore
This is interesting AF
subieroo66
This looks really interesting wish I had read it
Tranquilo
Is there a book on this?
FatBoobsDontCount
no
shorr
Some, I guess. I read more or less the same thing from a psychology book years ago
jamiewritesfic
I was looking too. Just found this page. http://www.all-about-body-language.com/body-language-books.html
thegreatninjaman
you know what, im just gonna sit on my computer all day. so much easier.
techley
Got it. Approach bear from side. "Hey, nice cubs!"
SupermassiveZebra
You can also approach her cubs from the front, you'll be juuust fine. Damn, that part is bull fucking shit.
njotr
In order to build rapport, be sure to mimic her posture as she’s mauling you.
AllIHaveHadTodayIsLikeSixGummyBearsAndSomeScotch
"I know her every move, therefore I have the upper hand!" "Perfectly symmetrical violence never solved anything!"
linkletonsan
Wise words to live by
kasaku
Created by a Sphincter? Such a trustworthy source.
htbui85
My thoughts as well. I was hoping to use this bit need a more reliable source.
htbui85
My thoughts as well. I was hoping to use this bit need a more reliable source.
Scipio1770
Psych majors and their crotch displays.
Rasui
Psych major reporting in. Can confirm I use all this shit in my day to day life and it works beautifully to give me a social edge.
ABillionDucks
Yeah, I think it's one of those Freudian penises.
2pidoop
I logged in for the first time in ages just to say thank you! I just tried some of these on my sister, and I had my first relaxed chat ever!
SwedishRationalist
When this started talking about "dominance" I just thought of "manspreading" and immediately wasn't interested in reading any more...
sckatherina
Feminist
YamatoIouko
No freaking kidding. That being said, the post does make some good points, I just don't think we men 'manspread' for dominance.
AnonymouZero
indeed
LadyMiena
Manspreading drives me crazy.
ExtremistSatire
as long as it isn't out of hand, it should be perfectly acceptable. a guy needs the ball room.
YamatoIouko
Like, the so-called action or the idea that it's men expressing dominance?
Flyndaran
It's douchey aggression that gets on my male nerves.
LadyMiena
1) The action. I have been on many a plane where the dude next to me manspreaded until he was in my space touching me. And on buses
LadyMiena
2) with a dude sitting in the middle of three seats, legs spread wide open so no one can sit on the other seats, with people standing.
YamatoIouko
...I didn't look at your username. Look, guys have these things called testicles. They get uncomfortable when squeezed.
SwedishRationalist
I'm sure these guys would have moved if someone asked them nicely. Men's legs just fold out naturally when sitting, because of ball comfort.
behrditz
Whenever i need to be in a small space, I have to hook my feet together in a way to keep my legs near. Its just how hips fall.
shaun894
I've found that when someone takes a dominant stance, taking a thoughtful stance helps. Hard to feel in control when you feel you're being1/
shaun894
Assessed. Most people either get nervous or open up and lighten up. Why play dominance games? Share the conversation.
nitouken
How is that not a dominance game? There's more than one way to derail someone who is trying to monopolize the conversation.
shaun894
One is taking the limelight, one is sharing the limelight.
nitouken
No, one is taking the WHOLE limelight, the other is forcing the other person to share the limelight. It's still playing games.
Pyrohawk
I agree with the personal space differences though. As someone who grew up on a farm, but moved to the city...people stand way to close!
azazyel
Why is there a spider in his personal bubble?
EvilBuffalo
Very useful for the developing sociopath.
Fenriswaffles
Or useful for people who have all the social maturity and finesse of a bear, like me! Minus being awesome like a bear that is.
ImGothamsReckoning
I'd say it's more helpful to a psychopath, since sociopaths tend to be more spontaneous whereas psychopaths plan, plan, plan.
popejubal
Sociopaths find this information more useful although psychopaths would benefit more from this if they could just admit that they need it.
AngeIa
Do I go with slash slash stab-or-stab slash slash? Which limb to dismember first? Ugh, murder is a full time job. -1stWorldPsychopathProbs
Bentheidiot
Or anyone that has a particularly low grade of empathy anyways ;)
Cere4l
my empathic powers are so low, dominating personalities give up on sight
Nineteenletterslong
I will outwardly recognize that you are making a joke, but inwardly realize that you are serious.
LiveFreeAndBruceWillis
Beautiful wordsmithin
hugglesthemerciless
As someone with mild sociopathic tendencies, yes and yes
PikaChunin
Is that a thing? Is that MY thing?
TheCommunistComrade
It's absolutely a thing. I have a thing where in situations of grief, specifically over dead people all my emotions just shut off and I 1/2
TheCommunistComrade
have to pretend to care. But in other situations that true sociopaths also feel nothing in, like love and excitement I feel it. It's weird.
hugglesthemerciless
Is what a thing?
seerofsorrow
Or those of us who are on the autistic spectrum.
Flyndaran
So many assume I'm autistic, but many of these seemed cartoonishly exaggerated for effect.
seerofsorrow
many of these? Many of what if I may ask.
jamiewritesfic
Same. I just learned that I'm invading everyone's space all the time D: Which is weird cause I have HUGE personal space requirements...
kreyll
Might want to also ask people, just to confirm
jamiewritesfic
yeah I'm not really able to verbalize well with people I don't know well. It would come out like... "TOO CLOSE?!?!" and be seen as an attack
seerofsorrow
Done that before.
seerofsorrow
Yeah no one ever gives you an honest answer though.
Corrodias
I guess my point is that the answers probably aren't intentionally dishonest; rather, they're just poorly informed and rushed.
Corrodias
Indeed, for most of us, we aren't aware of it, so it's impossible to give a frank answer without taking a lot of time to introspect.
SoulHeart
or making people believe they are sociopaths. These kind of things work on the subconscious level.
Wutan
TIL black people scare me
owassodad
Now watch how many of these are used by Trump the next time he is speaking
buttcreambandit
1. Personal space! 2. Personal space! 3. Stay outta my personal space!
DefyReality
Just stayed up all night watching every episode of Rick and Morty. Only now do I see how much references I've missed in my lifetime
aeickmeier
I knew someone would know!!
Seattlite
Came down here looking for this, was not disappointed.
Mrwubbles
Woah, hey, who's around me! Okay let's get back to some personal space
Zachthebat
How did I get here? OH GOD HOW DID I GET HERE?
ItsOkayItsOfficial
https://youtu.be/2DfmDuOxcN8
HairyLibrarian
Some people in my life need to read this.
chorkbork
Yeah, yeah, f*** you for shooting my liver, see you around
ohmnomnomfuckit
Whoa! Whoa! Who's around me!??
elhopaness
Hey, nice car!
Kattsune
Oh yeah, my bubble is over there now.
mellowdrama
Mr. Rogers was a close talker.
mroranges
I come from a farm town and can confirm that no one has a normal conversation standing 12ft away from each other
jamiewritesfic
Usually about 2-3 ft away. Where I live now, people come RIGHT UP TO YOU like a few inches away and it drives me nuts (2/2)
FoxySpirit
Can confirm with farm people from mountain farm. It's always arm length. EVEN in India. But they might suddenly touch you.
akki1904
What if your wrong and everybody hates you for getting into their personal space. Think about it
DDDEATH45
He literally said that they were getting near HIM.
jamiewritesfic
I come from a farm town too :) Soybeans. Not 12ft, but if you see someone you know at Ayerco, you talked to them from where you were (1/2)
Iwearsocks
Yeah, I would strongly disagree with some of the things in this post. Family culture is usually what does it.
gingerminge
Also from rural town; agreed. Visited New York, INTENSE DISCOMFORT!
familytriptopoundtown
Come to upstate NY and I promise you'll feel at home.
gingerminge
I actually really wanted to go but never got the chance while I was over there. It looks like beautiful country.
Nyther53
Interestingly enough thats not a direct causation. This particular phenomena was one of the reasons the occupation of Iraq and Afghanistan
Nyther53
went so poorly, to the local populace "personal space" meant being able to smell the other's breath. NATO troops in both countries percieved
Nyther53
what was to the locals an attempt at a normal conversation as being crowded and pressured, and reacted poorly in many cases, which reinforce
Nyther53
a negative impression on the people they were now threatening,because they couldn't understand the behavior which to them was unpredictable.
bgod
Just learned more ways to politely remove myself from a conversation. I expect to see a decrease in the number of convos I will be having.
doubledan
this is exactly what i learned and also the expected outcome.
guilhermedidi
Please share with us.
jamiewritesfic
So much this.
RyanoftheDesert
"Yay" would be for those who know some, if not all of this already. Exempli gratia : a primatologist.
Dutchess89
Like what? I wanted to learn that for years. Please share with me.
Brunitski
Sarcasm? sarcasm.
thatclimbingguy
...yay?
mijiza
We'll be living the dream soon.
gribblet
Just in time for the extended family holiday visits. Yes!!
FrankHorigan
desertsunray
Did anyone else think this whole post was kinda... Just common sense? General knowledge you pick up from ya know, interacting in the world?
a1a1b2
I thought some of it was obvious, and I would say especially personal space is something social humans do naturally. Nice to see it laid 1/2
hette
I want to send this to my aspie friend, but he'd probably just argue with me. Tired of talking to him frankly.
a1a1b2
Out though to be able to be more deliberate in how you use these tactics 2/2
TachyonCode
To me it just seems like a bunch of culture-centric memes and their typical effects. It wouldn't work where I live.
grantavius
Gravity was kind of obvious too, but someone still needed to spell it out before people were like "Oh yeah, huh."
rexpup
I had trouble socially in middle school, and this is the sort of stuff I wish I'd known. I had no idea about body language at all.
jamiewritesfic
People on the Autism spectrum, who are bipolar, socially awkward, with PTSD or emotional health issues, some attention disorders, etc (2/2)
tarantularaptor
Yes to most . This would be useful for those on the autistic spectrum that dont find it obvious .
jamiewritesfic
For a majority maybe (except breaking dominance?) but MANY people have issues which make this difficult to learn/pick up naturally. (1/2)
AmoViUm
*Many citations needed*
DisturbedRanga
I wouldn't take those ridiculous Cinema routes even if a fucking Gorilla were in the back aisle seat.
GetSquanched
+1 for "Cinema routes." Despite the pointless capitalization...
kraeftig
there's such a thing as having a naturally dominant personality such that subtle dominance displays by others are completely ignored.
whateversomethingdifferentiguessfkit
I would be VERY curious to see the person who ran that experiment. If Mongo is in the corner looking ready to go, imma leave him alone too
whateversomethingdifferentiguessfkit
but if it's just some average cunt trying to look hard? i'm gonna laugh, point that mean mug out to my friends so they can laugh too.
TOASTEngineer
I think the idea is that he wasn't "trying to look hard," he was just staring at the screen more or less normally, in a certain posture.
whateversomethingdifferentiguessfkit
right, what i mean to say is it's unlikely posture would deter me from sitting in some area of my general preference. i don't buy it at all
TOASTEngineer
You wouldn't actually notice, though. Your brain would just kinda say "that seat looks like the best one" without saying why.
SilentHowling
I think the point is you don't even think about why you're doing it.
davidabeats
I sit backwards on chairs cuz it's comfy, I do a lot of the stuff on the list, but I really don't agree with what this list says about them.
Verelse
The graphical parts of this infographic are ill placed an ill conceived.
whateversomethingdifferentiguessfkit
"info" is a bit generous, while we're at it.
Verelse
"and"
legessi
thanks for breaking rapport...sigh
JohnCalvinCoolidgeJr
i have never in my life seen in person someone in a business setting sitting in that way that men supposedly do all the time
malcheus
I would jokingly kick the backrest if someone did that at my workplace.
InternationalPhoneticAlphabet
i dont even get whats so dominant about it . i thought this was a pose that implies informality and being non-threatening.
wobbu
It does, but it implies you are leading the discussion.
TachyonCode
If I'm standing up lookin' down at someone doing something like that, they're not leading the discussion. They're listenin' to my shit.
JohnCalvinCoolidgeJr
yes, the only time i remember seeing it was in group-discussion settings in school, usually by someone who wanted to hide & not participate
ImAnFBIAgentBooBoop
Yeah it's usually the "we're all fucking tired but let's do one more useless meeting to look better to the higher-ups" pose.
DatMormon
Really depends on the setting. Bros hanging out? Chill. Boss giving a lecture? Dominant.
dpidcoe
Same. The weirdest I've seen is my manager, who sometimes just sprawls out on the floor if there isn't a chair handy.
littleoldlady
It seems like a Michael Scott move.
idiotn00b
Last time I put on "a very aggressive crotch display" in the movie theatre, the usher threw me out almost immediately.
DoctorMama
I just almost died by choking on my lunch thanks to this comment. +1 for attempted murder.
coenearts
http://a.dilcdn.com/bl/wp-content/uploads/sites/8/2010/07/img-cs-pee-wee-herman_1354365384591.jpg
getthismanabeer
ThrustBustingFuck
The fuck!?!?! Those descriminating sexist socialistic bastards.
abundantbadgers
Paul Reubens would be proud
Zaelle
To be fair I don't think his "aggressive crotch display" involved shredding off pants and mimicking an helicopter taking flight.
Grumgr
But how else will people know that I identify as an attack helicopter?
DarthFutuza
Best thing I've read all morning.
Diddyu
Did you turn around so he could read your tail number? Unknown attack helicopters in civil airspace can easily incite panic.
jimwormmaster
This deserves more upvotes. Here, have one.
Hassa111
... +1
natgeochan
lmao
ImGothamsReckoning
Yeah, I wouldn't try maneuvering behind someone who's pissed and displaying dominating behavior.
Corrodias
How else are you going to get them in a full nelson?
jlt66666
Taser them first.
mthrndr01
Evidently what I've always perceived as someone being an idiot is their attempt to assert dominance. Live and learn.
mechanimated
I think one has to be mindful of reading too much into certain gestures, but I will add that I have had some guys speak to me in bars and /1
mechanimated
similar settings and then act like they're fiending for crack, shifting around and shit. Maybe it was some bad PUA tactics all along. /2
ThatJerkYouKnow
Wait, you equate intelligence with posture? I've... never heard of that. Good luck!
mthrndr01
Having hooked someone in the sack with a putter, I'd say any time you expose your genitals is a failure of intelligence.
ThatJerkYouKnow
I saw literally zero "exposure" of genitals in this post but alright! You be you!
VoPo
It might be related.
deathisblind
I just shit in a circle
thatclimbingguy
Not sure how that is related but it feels like it is
WishingICouldPutAnApostropheInMyUsername
We all do, friend. We all do.
ImguriansFillMySaltReservoir
As a male, that pose labeled as "military or police" is absolute not dominant. That's asking to be brought to your knees.
Thorlund
Could that be because you feel dominant, and don't want that to be threatened? Not trying to be insulting, just wondering if there is (1/2)
Thorlund
(2/2) a dispute over dominance. For example, an alpha wolf will react aggressively to another wolf that acts as if it is in charge.
MimzytheBun
Funny how similar this sounds to a lot of 'unsafe space' complaints in feminist study, but presented this way no one is foaming with anger.
AlbertoMX
Because one of them talks about asserting dominance because its a normal behaviour and the other claims the reason is no other than sexism?
ImAnFBIAgentBooBoop
Why is it "normal"? It is more often than not ridiculously not subtle, and indicative of a particular type of stupid mindset.
ExtremistSatire
in many cases, especially emergency situations, a dominant authority figure can be instrumental in getting things done
AlysObv
seems like the same thing to me...
DatMormon
TIL, changing posture means you're an idiot. Anyone who does this so obviously that you notice it is just terrible at body language.
TachyonCode
After all, dominance is descriptive of the result of *action*, not of posture. Also, *one* body language is not identical to all others.
TachyonCode
"Dominant postures", as memes, may be fairly similar across cultures due to body structure being fairly consistent, but are still language.
TachyonCode
They are open to interpretation, as is any vocalization or gesture, by those who bear witness to them, and may not be consistent in meaning.
TachyonCode
And any "listener" is free to ignore a message. Period.
ajunfu
1. ESTABLISH DOMINANCE 2. MAINTAIN EYE CONTACT
SL4pthePANCAKES
3. USE KNIFE HAND POINTING!
frankletank
Remember, high, medium and low have their uses, and the high knifehand's use is to kill
SL4pthePANCAKES
Also knife hand height and angle is DIRECTLY FUCKING PROPORTIONAL to how pissed off the NCO is