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Definition of 'Red Tape'
Bureaucracies at their best. High level security clearance federal employee at the pentagon...
Apr 16, 2016 9:51 AM
Hellstorm99
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Bureaucracies at their best. High level security clearance federal employee at the pentagon...
Flamennight
Couldn't you have taken a test to challenge the class like in school?
OdeToBouncer
The gov't insisted after seven months in Iraq that I return from Iraq so they could teach me what it was like in Iraq. To send me to Iraq.
wilescot
Same thing with my Mom. She created and taught the class for it's first 3 years, next base said she had to take it = 8 week TDY........
kmikl
If you're getting paid either way, take the fucking class. Bring along a tablet or something and do something productive while you're there.
SlantedAperture
As a State Employee, I can confirm.
Taliska
Dear mercy... which country?
vroomvroomsplat
CBT. Computer based training or Cock and Ball Torture. Either way not my thing.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
from the government so probably both simultaneously.
takhsis
16 years until full pension only a matter of time until I just stop caring about stuff like this.
tigerbear
I got yelled at the other day because I'd fallen behind on a cert that was last updated in 2009. I still had to take the fucking course.
Ifavouriteallthecatstuff
I got a letter recently in which they tell me that I need to pay 70 cents for w/e. The stamp on the letter was 70 cents....
PotatoPierce
The government is the definition of waste and inefficiency. I don't understand why people want it to be in more aspects of our lives.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
people don't, soulless bureaucratic puppets who need to have there every thought rubber stamped for approval want more government for all.
Cammynewbs
Which cert? CDFM requires a test, not a class. Same with CGFM. Both gov fin mgmt certs. You mean CPEs? Or are you just full of shit?
222Infantree
As a government employee I can say this is real
nativeinterface
yu need to fit in ze reich category! otherwize i can not fill in ze form correctly!
yoandhello
Who's paying for it? I see this as a classic opportunity to waste tax dollars Ron Swanson style.
RickHalcyon
So how much of the class you're fluent in, could you have blasted thru while arguing your principles? I am not sure who's dumber here
GunPonTooth
"Bureaucracy expands to meet the needs of the expanding bureaucracy." ~ Oscar Wilde probably.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
the only thing expanding faster than the bureaucracy is the waistlines of the bureaucrats
GunPonTooth
And their wallets.
nosoupforoldmen
If it's a poorly worded law that's responsible I wouldn't be surprised.
FH2actual
Both my parents worked for the Government after serving in the armed forces. Oh the stories about wasted time in both. It's rather sad.
SAWhowhatnow
This sure is an unattributed and unsourced "quote" that I'm positive wasn't just pulled out of @OP 's ass at all!
Hellstorm99
Source is my father, not entirely sure what I can say about it given where it is he works.
DrOfMachetecine
Not an exaggeration. I had a senior chief in a class full of E-3s who WROTE the curriculum because he needed a box checked for his next ship
Stumpyz
It's all about certification. Government has to prove that everyone they hire is qualified for their job officially, including certification
humanmeatburger
"Me" knows that the person who they are talking to is unable to make a decision, they are just following a process, ergo "Me" is a dick.
Trogdoooooooor
Send this to the OSD:
Booopity
Boo fuckin hoo take the class crybaby
Burghguy
I'm certified to a certain level, but the syllabus changed, so I can't take classes for the next level without taking prereqs. But (1/2)
Burghguy
(2/2) I don't qualify for the prereqs... because I'm already certified at that level. I've been dealing with gov bs like this for 15 yrs.
Leeloothedog
sounds like government... *gets out of army and applies for weapons permit* "you need to take a safety class" ... i taught the class...
Hellstorm99
Exactly
ParanoidWithGoodCause
but you didn't TAKE the class.
Leeloothedog
funny thing is tho... you take and give the class many times in the army... but some retired cop apparently knows better gun safety then us.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
well if the class is still there then obviously you haven't taken it yet have you?
Leeloothedog
its gone now. i took it. no one else can have it.
ParanoidWithGoodCause
are you sure you took ALL the class? did you spontaneously develop a tuxedo and a shaken martini?
cogs
And so you should know that weapons safety and ROE briefs came repetitively, regardless of prior training or experience.
Leeloothedog
every 6 months (plus and special weapons courses) yup i sure do know that random internet stranger.
cogs
I'm an instructor, RSO, shot competitively and requal'd quarterly, but still have to go through it every time. Just grin & bear it. :)
Leeloothedog
yah its long over with. class wasn't that bad and it was only $60 for the wife and I with trigger time included
87casc
there are legitimate reasons why they may require you to take it from their own teachers...
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FormerNortherner
Bureaucrat* Hermes is disappointed in you
87casc
2)if you taught at an organization that wasn't used by the govt, you may not be certified, as in, they're not guaranteed you know what they
HarryBlackstoneCopperfieldDresden
Those "legitimate" reasons are purely CYA. They've got something to fire you over if you screw up. "He took the class - he knew better".
PoeKneeTa
The only problem is by taking class, wouldn't you have to be certified to teach it? Also, NPV isn't rocket science. I agree with OP.
pewptypantzs
people like you...
87casc
3)want you to know. If you taught for the govt, you probably took the class years earlier from that same organization.
ohheyimalex
They update that stuff pretty regularly. It may not be groundbreaking stuff, but they want you to know for a reason.
87casc
1)Yeah, person in post (not sure if it's OP) wants to be special, but nope.
dyxj
Legit, I get your point, but that's not why they have you take the course. They have you take the course because bureaucracy demands it.
87casc
2)Also why published papers are peer-reviewed & they don't accept, "but I know the material!" - yeah, buddy, we're making sure!
gooberhead
he *wrote* the class
SAWhowhatnow
Yes, that certainly is what this unsourced and unattributed """"quote"""" says. And if you believe it you might have a few extra chromosomes
Sloppydrunkcatlady
Because I'll certainly listen to someone who makes fun of people with down syndrome. Totally reliable source that people will take seriously
FormerNortherner
Real talk: who says they knew what they were doing when they wrote the class? They're just asking for verifiable objective evidence...
Cowb0t
he should have signed up for one of his own classes, and given himself an A+.
OdeToBouncer
Yeah, but the instructor may want a handjob from him for "extra credit". IYKWIMAITYD!
ReeniRem
But he didn't TAKE the class
scabab
but he WROTE the CLASS
ReeniRem
I forgot quotes around "TAKE" ????
WellTimedFreeman
You forgot to WRITE them
87casc
It doesn't say he wrote it for the school/organization the govt uses...
Imightbelyingalittlebit
Nope ¥
pewptypantzs
omg you are denser than your mother's vagina after a gangbang
DiedAndHauntingImgur
I wrote training for our entire site, the training provided by a different site was completely different (and shittier, not the point).
87casc
1)Hey, I could say I taught a class on particle physics, it doesn't mean I know a fucking thing about it. Or that I taught biology
87casc
2)But it matters where I taught it, was it middle school, or college level? That's the missing bit of information
StephLovik
Taught THE class. He's saying he built the archetype that all classes under that heading are based on.
ManOfIce
Sorry, but you're the idiot here.
pewptypantzs
really? please explain. cause coming from your dull profile and creepy favorites, I'd say you shouldn't be talking
btm909
Insert slow clap...
pewptypantzs
btw are
pewptypantzs
you my sibling?
87casc
3)If you don't get it, oh well, I can't help you.
SemperScarredHeart
It was implied that he wrote the specific class being taught. This is a common occurance with our gov. Has happened to me as well.
tomhark
i also work for the government. i have been completely invisible for years.
eroso
Ah, the governments invisible man -program must be true then.
ClevrHandle
Chevy Chase?!
Hellstorm99
Let's hope, that Kevin Bacon movie Hollow Man was terrible
ClevrHandle
Unless you are a fan of invisible wang... then I feel like Hollow Man is the right movie.
YeaImFunAtParties
There's only one reason to be invisible, pervert
tomhark
added bonus
ozythemandias
Gimme dis job
Glassextiel
I don't see what you did there.
ProbablyNotCIA
That's the secret
SlantedAperture
I would find you.
tomhark
good luck.
SlantedAperture
Yep, I'm 32 and I've been asked to manage four 40+ who are too young to start over and too old retire. I could probably outwork half of them
Chikanboo
Think about what you just said for a moment
SlantedAperture
I'm borderline dyslexic too. They're too old to start over and too young to retire.
tomhark
hey, that`s me!! good luck with that.
angryson
I know people who just haven't showed up to work in 2-3 weeks and no one even asks where they are. I don't really blame them.
hightimesinaz
If you're invisible, why aren't we sharing this technology with the people?
tomhark
because then everyone would be doing it.
SomewhatAsian
because military say "no giving to civilians unless you want to have a bad time"
ovelanimimerkki
Then again if one would go completely invisible, they would also go blind as nothing would reflect the light in their eyes so 1/2
ovelanimimerkki
It would require some badass daredevil training in order to have proper military applications. Nothing is lost by making it public. 2/2
MonsterRooster
But do you WORK for the government?
tomhark
well, i get paid, so.....
hesaidsarcastically
Yes you got paid but are you WORKING for the government?
tomhark
we have a great government, they have my full support, and in a real, i will ensure, that our great government, continues to pay me