I would barely care about his inability to joke, dance to music, or look decent. If he wasn't A fraud, rapist and cheat as proven already in multiple court cases.
I remember when he said he was running for president. I thought it would be entertaining.. never in a million fucking years did think it would turn out like this.
Penn's speech about 'being allowed to rape as many people as you want/whoever you want' will always have me in awe of him. He fucking got it in a way that so few men in this terrifying world seem to. He's a gem and if Trump hates you then you're on the right side of history.
No we need to be saying that his hair resembles a bowl of mashed potatoes. It’s an early childhood trauma from when his dad dumped a bowl of oatmeal on the little creeps head
Dems should be 2. FDR talks about the corporate interests in 1936: “They are united in their hatred for me—AND I WELCOME THEIR HATRED.” (Emphasis mine) That wasn’t Mundahmi or El-Sayed or even AOC or Sanders—it was FDR. We should work to elect more people like that, even if it requires a hostile takeover of the Dems sim 2 DJT’s of the GOP.
I've always thought that Trump's makeup was the same shade of tangerine that you see on a flesh colored dildo used exclusively for anal play, so his hair being piss stained tracks for me
I mean, fuck Trump, but Mr. Penn here is just as guilty for spreading libertarian narratives in his show Bullshit! They were prepping the Joe Rogan audience while he was still on Fear Factor. He was planting the seeds to get rid of the EPA over twenty years ago.
To give credit to him, he has since disavowed that and pretty much said he was completely wrong. It's rare to see someone realize (and publicly admit) their entire ideology is wrong, and totally re-evaluate their beliefs like that.
I think a lot of good faith libertarians project their own morals and fair-mindedness onto the general public, and it takes a lot to disabuse them of that viewpoint
My freshman year of college (93 - 94), some friends and I bought tickets to see Penn & Teller at the last minute, and ended up in the second to the last row in the balcony (all they had left). Intermission comes around, everyone get ups and leaves to stretch their legs, but we just stayed put. A couple of minutes later Penn drops down into the seat behind us and says "well this isn't so bad". He spent intermission hanging out with the kids in the back row. Helluva nice guy.
Trump actually told a joke recently. Well, tried to, anyway. Not surprisingly he botched both the content and the delivery, and had to deal with the laugh-free response.
He tries a lot. But when he tries to make a joke, he can only make an insult. And never a clever or funny one.
Dude disgusts me for all kinds of reasons, but it all started in the early 90s on a Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous knockoff, when I saw his gold toilet. A ~10 yr old me thought "Gold toilet?! Gold to shit and piss on?! Fuck that guy." And I went and did something beside watch tv, since that's what the living room tv was on, and I didn't get a vote.
Well, he did successfully tell a joke that got YUGE peals of laughter. At the United Nations speech? Remember that? Only he didn't realize that his usual tactic of lying would be publicly derided like that.
That’s good enough. There is no specific consistent word. I can’t wait till he’s so not-all-there that he engages in a numerous-expletive-laden rant on live TV.
At the time it was just a silly show. Hindsight is 20/20. Nobody could have predicted that a random failed nobody would become the leader of a country.
I get the sentiment but the man is tied to billions of dollars being made and just his wealth alone is in the multi billions which is hard to keep much less grow
Like Reagan, the myth was very different than the man. But in Ron’s case, the man was more real (statesperon-wise) and the myth less exaggerated. Don’s reputed 2 b everything & actually nothing!
During the first election against Hillary one of the boomers I was working with at the time said he was going to vote for him because he liked him on the apprentice. I wish I could go back to those simpler times when I thought people who said stuff like that were just mildly stupid.
Ha, I knew a gal that said that, she went on to say she believed he would be good for the presidency because he was already rich and wouldn't be worried about using his presidency to make more money and he'd focus on the people. I looked at her dumbfounded, like how the fuck you think a rich person isn't going to want to get richer...
Much worse. RWR was a real politician with more pragmatism. DJT has all RWR’s vices—on steroids—and NONE of his redeeming qualities. DJT isn’t even “charismatic” except 2 his followers. If BC “felt people’s pain” and aspirations, this guy feels only their anger & resentment.
I agree that he’s worse as a human being, Raygun was racist as shit, but is DJT worse for the country? Time will tell.. the wealth gap we see today is Reagan’s fault, the cronyism, perpetuating inequality, disproportionate penalties for PoC, etc. I hope DJT is too inept to do long standing damage, and that our hate of him creates an immediate course correction, but I guess we’ll see.. Cheeto dusted, horse kicked, ball sack
At least Reagan was a competent statesman who believed in government in the abstract even as he derided it in terms of services. And he was smart enough not to mess with institutions that were immensely popular. He didn’t have hubris, nor did he normalize corruption & perfect it to a science. He was soooo wrong for America, but most GOP prez’s since were progressively (excuse the word) worse! (Continues)
(Continued) Only Bush I was better. Bush II governed so far right as to make Reagan look like a liberal. And DJT is so corrupt as to make even Bush II—to say nothing of Reagan—look clean by comparison. Hell, even Nixon was better. (Not by much in terms of corruption, but a lot better in terms of domestic policy; he created the EPA, for Christ’s sake!)
It built his fan base for the stupid who believed it was real and as a character who gained admiration. If not for the show he may never have had a voter base.
Which came first, the show or birtherism? Anyway, it was the latter, not the former, that endeared him to the Tea Party (later MAGA) & built him a political base.
A megalomaniac looks for any means to fulfill their “destiny for greatness”. They don’t know what they’re destined FOR; they just know it’s some form of greatness. And saying Hitler wouldn’t have been a genocidal dictator if he’s been accepted as an artist is like saying Manson wouldn’t have killed anyone if he’d been accepted as a musician. No one knows and no matter how they turned out they’d still be nefarious narcissists!
I'm not saying anything about if he counted as a genocidal dictator back when he was still a struggling artist; I'm just saying he was still Hitler then. Hitler was his name, not his title. :0
algoritham
Damn, Penn got old :(
Junktrunkjunkie
I would barely care about his inability to joke, dance to music, or look decent. If he wasn't A fraud, rapist and cheat as proven already in multiple court cases.
unluckyandbored
I think this is the first time I've seen him without a suit.
Gwimyeon
I remember when he said he was running for president. I thought it would be entertaining.. never in a million fucking years did think it would turn out like this.
flordelasantillas
If only you and Teller could put Trump on an asteroid by combining your skills with that of other skilled magicians.
cgt9803
Insults the good name of piss
theinternetkeepsmealive
Penn's speech about 'being allowed to rape as many people as you want/whoever you want' will always have me in awe of him. He fucking got it in a way that so few men in this terrifying world seem to. He's a gem and if Trump hates you then you're on the right side of history.
imnotinthewitnessprotectionprogram
No we need to be saying that his hair resembles a bowl of mashed potatoes. It’s an early childhood trauma from when his dad dumped a bowl of oatmeal on the little creeps head
BeardsAreFacePubes
I thought it was a cousin at a family dinner who did indeed dump a bowl of mashed potatoes. Then the whole room laughed at him.
At least that's how I remember it from Mary Trump's book.
RobertAG25772
Dems should be 2. FDR talks about the corporate interests in 1936: “They are united in their hatred for me—AND I WELCOME THEIR HATRED.” (Emphasis mine) That wasn’t Mundahmi or El-Sayed or even AOC or Sanders—it was FDR. We should work to elect more people like that, even if it requires a hostile takeover of the Dems sim 2 DJT’s of the GOP.
winsomecafetiere
I've always thought that Trump's makeup was the same shade of tangerine that you see on a flesh colored dildo used exclusively for anal play, so his hair being piss stained tracks for me
DimwitF
Hey, leave them out of this. Responsible dildo owner-operators wash their equipment and would never let them get as filthy as that asshole.
birdnerd360
I wish I had that badge of honor to be hated by Trump. Instead I have a step-dad that Trump "loves" and that is a source of embarrassment..
mikeatike
Trump loves stupid people. My dad falls into that camp.
Maulbert
Hey, don't insult cotton candy made of piss!/s
RobertAG25772
Unless you’ve had it & enjoyed it
leslaron
I wonder what Teller has to say about this
euphxenos
Probably a lot. He's pretty chatty when he gets offstage. Here's a video where he talks about why he's quiet during their act.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YJRIkTHqTSE
cosonfused
he has such a nice voice.
SteveTheEgg
I mean, fuck Trump, but Mr. Penn here is just as guilty for spreading libertarian narratives in his show Bullshit! They were prepping the Joe Rogan audience while he was still on Fear Factor. He was planting the seeds to get rid of the EPA over twenty years ago.
SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem
To give credit to him, he has since disavowed that and pretty much said he was completely wrong. It's rare to see someone realize (and publicly admit) their entire ideology is wrong, and totally re-evaluate their beliefs like that.
tentacularfleshscape
I think a lot of good faith libertarians project their own morals and fair-mindedness onto the general public, and it takes a lot to disabuse them of that viewpoint
lightfoot2
Oh lord he has gotten old. Nice guy, we had a good chat once about fitting into cars.
IOwnTheSpire
unluckyandbored
I met him after his show in Vegas. I agree, very nice guy in person.
euphxenos
My freshman year of college (93 - 94), some friends and I bought tickets to see Penn & Teller at the last minute, and ended up in the second to the last row in the balcony (all they had left). Intermission comes around, everyone get ups and leaves to stretch their legs, but we just stayed put. A couple of minutes later Penn drops down into the seat behind us and says "well this isn't so bad". He spent intermission hanging out with the kids in the back row. Helluva nice guy.
MadamPuddifoot
Why? How tall is he?
lightfoot2
6'6 or so. I
unluckyandbored
Pretty tall. I'm 6'1" and had to look up to look him in the eyes. I'm not used to having to do that.
tentacularfleshscape
6'7", 2.01 meters
MadamPuddifoot
Jesus. Never would've guessed he was THAT big.
tentacularfleshscape
Probably helps with his sleight of hand since his size is distracting
lightfoot2
I thought 6'6. I'm 6'8 so pretty much the same height. Fun person, very nice to chat with.
ProfessorBanesworth
Some would say he's larger than life.
RobertAG25772
But actually very SMALL. Even his own 3-timers are beginning to see it
tzahtman
If you're going to quote the Backstreet Boys you should give them credit.
SpammersAreScum
Trump actually told a joke recently. Well, tried to, anyway. Not surprisingly he botched both the content and the delivery, and had to deal with the laugh-free response.
Zeterai
He also suggested running again in 2028 "as a joke", because he has no concept of humour.
howunfortunate9
He tries a lot. But when he tries to make a joke, he can only make an insult. And never a clever or funny one.
Dude disgusts me for all kinds of reasons, but it all started in the early 90s on a Lifestyles of the Rich and Famous knockoff, when I saw his gold toilet. A ~10 yr old me thought "Gold toilet?! Gold to shit and piss on?! Fuck that guy." And I went and did something beside watch tv, since that's what the living room tv was on, and I didn't get a vote.
barbarian818
Well, he did successfully tell a joke that got YUGE peals of laughter. At the United Nations speech? Remember that? Only he didn't realize that his usual tactic of lying would be publicly derided like that.
mikeatike
Thats not telling a joke, thats being a joke.
RobertAG25772
As in he was a LAUGHINGSTOCK!
discitus
And then immediately blamed whoever wrote it, calling them an idiot (I don't remember the exact wording).
timbazi
he's the "i didn't make the bullet i just put it in the gun and pulled the trigger" kind of shitpants
RobertAG25772
That’s good enough. There is no specific consistent word. I can’t wait till he’s so not-all-there that he engages in a numerous-expletive-laden rant on live TV.
RobertAG25772
None of his jokes are funny, even to his supporters. But he always—and just about anyone only—MEANS what he says when he promises to hurt folk.
ccentral
His sycophants will laugh to show loyalty. Like that scene in Goodfellas.
RobertAG25772
Good analogy
RobertAG25772
“Anyone” isn’t meant to be in there
RobertAG25772
Autocorrect and autocomplete so often misunderstand me
Bacxaber
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
At the time it was just a silly show. Hindsight is 20/20. Nobody could have predicted that a random failed nobody would become the leader of a country.
svga
I get the sentiment but the man is tied to billions of dollars being made and just his wealth alone is in the multi billions which is hard to keep much less grow
theinternetkeepsmealive
His wealth is a house of cards. You pull one from the bottom and it all falls apart .
RobertAG25772
Like Reagan, the myth was very different than the man. But in Ron’s case, the man was more real (statesperon-wise) and the myth less exaggerated. Don’s reputed 2 b everything & actually nothing!
talomox14
During the first election against Hillary one of the boomers I was working with at the time said he was going to vote for him because he liked him on the apprentice. I wish I could go back to those simpler times when I thought people who said stuff like that were just mildly stupid.
lezgetfukkinreal
Ha, I knew a gal that said that, she went on to say she believed he would be good for the presidency because he was already rich and wouldn't be worried about using his presidency to make more money and he'd focus on the people. I looked at her dumbfounded, like how the fuck you think a rich person isn't going to want to get richer...
brownribbon
What show was it?
JimFromMarketing
What show? Penn made it? I'm confused
ThatOtherGirlYouKnow
The Apprentice. Trump was hired as an actor to portray a successful businessman, and chuds believed it to be true.
brownribbon
Penn wasn’t involved with that though, was he?
ScreamimgGoat
I haven't seen it, but i believe Penn was a contestant on that show
mikeatike
Correct, I've never seen the show, but I know the producers would bring on people like Penn that hated him.
Gwimyeon
Your fired
mikeatike
My fired what? I hope its food. Love things cooked over a fire pit.
AtaSeaParks
Fired meat. Frame grilled bell peppers, lightly salted. Slow fired dry rubbed Cornish game hen. Wait, what were we talking about?
Sonicschilidogs
Ronnie Reagan 2.0 to a T
mikeatike
The actor? Hahaha
fluxfusion3
Who's Vice President? Jerry Lewis ?
RobertAG25772
Much worse. RWR was a real politician with more pragmatism. DJT has all RWR’s vices—on steroids—and NONE of his redeeming qualities. DJT isn’t even “charismatic” except 2 his followers. If BC “felt people’s pain” and aspirations, this guy feels only their anger & resentment.
MeagerPeener
I agree that he’s worse as a human being, Raygun was racist as shit, but is DJT worse for the country? Time will tell.. the wealth gap we see today is Reagan’s fault, the cronyism, perpetuating inequality, disproportionate penalties for PoC, etc. I hope DJT is too inept to do long standing damage, and that our hate of him creates an immediate course correction, but I guess we’ll see.. Cheeto dusted, horse kicked, ball sack
RobertAG25772
At least Reagan was a competent statesman who believed in government in the abstract even as he derided it in terms of services. And he was smart enough not to mess with institutions that were immensely popular. He didn’t have hubris, nor did he normalize corruption & perfect it to a science. He was soooo wrong for America, but most GOP prez’s since were progressively (excuse the word) worse! (Continues)
RobertAG25772
(Continued) Only Bush I was better. Bush II governed so far right as to make Reagan look like a liberal. And DJT is so corrupt as to make even Bush II—to say nothing of Reagan—look clean by comparison. Hell, even Nixon was better. (Not by much in terms of corruption, but a lot better in terms of domestic policy; he created the EPA, for Christ’s sake!)
TheVillageGrouch9000
It built his fan base for the stupid who believed it was real and as a character who gained admiration. If not for the show he may never have had a voter base.
RobertAG25772
Which came first, the show or birtherism? Anyway, it was the latter, not the former, that endeared him to the Tea Party (later MAGA) & built him a political base.
shitheadtookmyname
The show predates the other by several years
RobertAG25772
Still doesn’t matter. Without Obama & birtherism, there’s be no Dunderhead Jackasshoke Traitor for a prez.
RobertAG25772
Donald John Trump, that is
Groose
A German artist rejected from art school turned into Hitler.
fluxfusion3
Could this be springtime for Trump ?
4Astaroth
An Austrian Artist. He became German after WW1.
ButtscratchMcPherson
He was still Hitler back then.
RobertAG25772
A megalomaniac looks for any means to fulfill their “destiny for greatness”. They don’t know what they’re destined FOR; they just know it’s some form of greatness. And saying Hitler wouldn’t have been a genocidal dictator if he’s been accepted as an artist is like saying Manson wouldn’t have killed anyone if he’d been accepted as a musician. No one knows and no matter how they turned out they’d still be nefarious narcissists!
ButtscratchMcPherson
I'm not saying anything about if he counted as a genocidal dictator back when he was still a struggling artist; I'm just saying he was still Hitler then. Hitler was his name, not his title. :0
RobertAG25772
My bad. His title, of course, was Der Fuhrer—The Leader. Mussolini was Il Duce—literally the same thing.