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SpiteLip
Role of police used to be to take risk off citizens and onto themselves. Now all the risk is on the citizens as if they are at war with us.
SomebodyalreadytookMyPants
I think they should have guns, just better training/vetting.
wilieGma
Most criminals would agree.
Caper2566
MuttonsChopped
I mean, 99% of work that police do doesn't require a gun so... yeah, I agree.
EarthsChampion
If you want to be a police officer then you should have to go through military police school or something like that. Imo
KillFascism
No police officer should carry a firearm.
Thapoopthattookapee
Take guns away from cops
georgedragonslayer
I know quite a few people that own guns. Not a single one of them has ever shot a person. Weird, huh?
JohnnySandwich
Well, you're using the correct meme format, that's for damn sure.
boiphamet
I have two uncles that were cops in the Dallas area, and I used to be a CO. I 100% agree. If I could walk around murderers with just pepper
boiphamet
Spray, why do they need a gun for a speeding ticket?
DurendaI
We talking about America? /s
rmsrmsrms38
Agree. Should only carry hand grenades and tasers....
flarflarf
i mean heavily armed cops wouldnt just murder an unarmed child and then lie about it would they? [checks the news] oh. oh no. no no no no
Nonsense79
Maybe most people shouldn’t carry guns
UserNameRegister
All citizens should carry guns.
woozle
sincerelynonsense
Fluffometer
Which is a thing already in some countries after all, the UK for example
mrB3ND3R
Except UK & many other European countries have a system based on monarchies. 1 of the staples of a monarchy are a forcibly unarmed populace.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Seems obvious. Something you'll often hear is police feared for their lives because a suspect might take their gun. Seems like an easy fix.
mrB3ND3R
'Cause the proper way to enforce law is to give a criminal a fair shot to fight back & win. Or just ask them nicely & they'll stop. /s
TheGhostofElizabethShue
There are other ways to fight back. The Lone Ranger fantasy “good guy with a gun” speaks to a lack of imagination if you ask me.
Jheklstuff
Well goddamn, an actual unpopular opinion. Idk if you'll go far but I wish you luck.
Vhyson
Meh, not really an unpopular opinion on imgur.
flarflarf
not unpopular with me.
hyperbolix
Yet, not popular enough.
DVSBSTrD
ReitnesTenought
Oops I thought it was a taser!
SlavicMusk
Most criminals shouldn't have guns either
Painkiller1020
Most people shouldn't have guns. 60% of Americans don't have them and of the 40% that do, maybe only a quarter of them should.
truthsmiles
Everyone is a criminal - just haven't been charged. There are some 40,000 laws in the US - virtually guaranteed you (and I) broke one today.
ArmyStrings
Don't confuse misdemeanors and felonies.
truthsmiles
I'm not https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424052748704471504574438900830760842
truthsmiles
And if you don't like the wsj link (paywalled): https://www.amazon.com/Three-Felonies-Day-Target-Innocent/dp/1594035229
rawdog
Ya, thats going to be a no from me dog...but I can agree to funding a new agency that handles mental health and drug related people calls.
bigpetey
I read that in a Randy voice.
rawdog
This guy gets it...not sure who downvoted you but that was my intention.
foreverinchains
They said most, not all. The overwhelming majority of situations police deal with do not require firearms.
truthsmiles
Armed police should be like firemen - only come out when called. No need for a gun when writing a ticket for air fresheners.
hyperbolix
Exactly this. Or, lock the gun in the car and require two people to authorize access to it. Remove the trivial access to lethal force.
mrB3ND3R
This isn't realistic. U can't do a routine stop, have a guy pull a weapon, hit pause, walk back to your car, get permission, & then resume.
hyperbolix
Suppose they took cover and called for assistance instead of returning fire.
truthsmiles
I've considered this but what stops them from always "needing access" to the guns because someone "acted strangely" or "smells like weed"?
hyperbolix
In my mind, a second person would have to sign off, the access would be time limited, and a report would be required. So, accountability.
SpiteLip
it's not so much the gun, it's the culture and the training - https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Warrior-Cop-Militarization-Americas/dp/1610394577
flarflarf
its also the guns
hyperbolix
I believe removing commonplace sidearms would promote a sea change within institutions of policing.
mrB3ND3R
Unfortunately that's a fantasy. U can't disarm until u can prevent criminal weapons. Same reason we still have nuclear weapons.
mrB3ND3R
To be transparent about my bias, I don't hunt, I don't use 'em for work. Purely a hobby. They're fun when shot safely. Nothing else like it.
flarflarf
Sure you can. Cops are not AT WAR with criminals and are perfectly capable of withdrawing to a safe distance and calling cops who ARE armed.
flarflarf
frankly, the insistence of cops on immediate and unconditional compliance is 90% of the problem.
hyperbolix
I can't speak to the practical path to reach this goal: there is a lot unsolved. I know that I think this should be the goal.
mrB3ND3R
Just pointing out why things are. We DEFINITELY need to do things better, but we're far off from being a utopian species.