You know what I would have liked? De Niro as Cornelius Sulla, Pacino as Gaius Marius, two aging giants show down. Big production, gritty, sweaty, colourful and musky rome, beautiful italian country side. Mafioso style clanhood and client-dominus relations, sinful women and venal men, parading as chaste and honourable, currying favour. But no, I will get Zendaya as Don Corleone with Timothy Chalamet as Tom Hagen. Clemenza dances ballroom vogue.
There is no official new Godfather movie in active production, but a new authorized novel titled Connie is set for release in fall 2027. Bestselling author Adriana Trigiani is writing Connie with the approval of the Mario Puzo estate.The Story Focus: The plot retells the Corleone family saga from the perspective of Don Vito's only daughter, Connie Corleone.
Hollywood has a working concept. Take a successful/popular IP, genderbend or race swap popular character, internet outrage, free publicity, one group boycotts but a larger group watches the movie just to show those bigots they are wrong. Success! Rinse and repeat. Just in case they really cast Zendaya on an Italian mob movie.
i mean, you could actually make that work...great-grandson or whoever of don corleone marries a non-italian girl against the will of his family, then gets murdered by a rival family and the young widow takes over leading the family into that mafia war, while also fighting enemies inside "her" family and obviously having trouble with the cops, all in order to get revenge for her husbands death...like, hollywood has made stupider scripts into actual movies...
I remember when it was johnny depp, angelina jolie, brad pitt. They always do this. Not that its great it just isnt a surprise that hollywood always has a shortlist.
we arent mad specifically at her, but at her for some reason being in every damn movie like there are no other actresses in her age group available in all of fucken hollywood...
Because like so many "up and comers" before her (cough*Pedro Pascal), she is in everything and isn't good enough to elevate those films. Her acting range is less than stellar, and her one emotion isn't enough to carry a film.
The death of the rental market has fundamentally changed Hollywood. You could make movies that did okay in theaters because it could keep making money in rentals & VHS/DVD sales. You could make mid-budget movies. Now, everything has to do well in theaters. Big budget, IP, Sequels. There was a clip of Matt Damon talking about it. Streaming has drastically cut down on movie sales. To have a better chance of making money, they base things on something that already works, sequels, IP, spectacle.
During/after covid, a movie needed a big punch in order to get people to go sit in a confined space for 2-3 hours. That pushed the mid-budget movies onto streaming, where they tried charging "admission" for new releases, but people were pretty solidly against it. So now, you only really get huge budget in theatres, and low budget goes direct to streaming for 'free'. There's no middle. People are less concerned about covid now, but now a night at the movies costs $100, so it has a similar effect.
Because those movies made money. And they are doing easy remakes to replicate those profits. They want to basically sell successful movies again. In the past they would have just re-screened the original movies again, but home video and on demand video killed that as a viable option. Thus they do remake after remake.
Gotta cater to them share holders so remarking/remastering/redoing know successes is the name of the game. They have guarantee returns for their share holders…
Son of the Mask. A sequel to The Mask could actually be fun but lets get back to the more adult humor and themes and stakes and not "Dog and Baby and God fight with farts and vomit teehee" bullshit.
I wouldn't mind a proper sequel but I dunno. The original was built around Jim Carrey and are there any actors who can fill those shoes and make them their own.
Yeah but in my opinion a lot of the times when they make them over they suck because a lot of the times they don't take the care that was done the first time around
Oh that's easy, if Sony doesn't keep making those movies the rights will return to Marvel. So those movies aren't about making money, it's about retaining valuable movie IP rights.
No they need to keep making them or else they lose the rights. And they know if they lose the rights they can't leech off the MCU any-more. And all the Spider-man spin off movies is because they want to make their own version of the MCU, because they have the rights to every character that first appears in Spider man and Fantastic 4. So the spin offs are them trying to make money, and doing a very bad job of that.
I argue the same thing with video games as well - as an example, Nintendo (and Konami, I guess) should remake both Castlevania 2 & Zelda 2. There's some good ideas there that the NES just couldn't handle, you could make a killer fuckin' game out of those today
I'd like to see a great "Hitchhiker's Guide" movie, but I think the reason they've sucked is that it just doesn't lend itself to movie format, so I think they would just fail again. Same with Endor's Game and I'm sure a long list really.
This is 100% correct. The algorithm picked up on the huge interest and engagement but obviously wasn't able to differentiate between genuine interest and just taking the piss
They really can't be bothered to try a new IP. Instead of trying to milk an extremely old cash cow at this point. They could instead try and make a new Mobster franchise.
All the movies made a good amount of money and were critically acclaimed. And have been in syndication for decades. It's made a lot of profits for people. So yeah it's a cash cow.
Hate these comments. Dozens of new IPS have come out this year, they mostly dont do well. Thats why the reuse and make sequals. Go to the movies more if you want to see more movies.
And that wasn't made in the same system as major movies are. It was basically a step above an indie film. Most of the new IP's aren't coming out of the main stream studios, but smaller independent creators. Or from seasoned creators who basically act as the IP guarantee. Simply because their name being attached to the project will make people go see it. Like a Spielberg Movie.
OozingRabbit
Who will Pedro Pascal play?
TheMurderousCricket
Well, he is not wrong...
flightstosaturn
New book, Connie confirmed. No confirmation of new movie.
https://stephensilver.substack.com/p/no-theyre-not-making-a-new-godfather
Heelcat70
She'll play whatever role she wants that Jason Momoa hasn't taken.
Eddafred
I can only hope they'll cast Chris Pratt and his infamously 'authentic' Italian accent.
Kingstad
you mean Pedro Pascal
xo66nt
You know what I would have liked? De Niro as Cornelius Sulla, Pacino as Gaius Marius, two aging giants show down. Big production, gritty, sweaty, colourful and musky rome, beautiful italian country side. Mafioso style clanhood and client-dominus relations, sinful women and venal men, parading as chaste and honourable, currying favour. But no, I will get Zendaya as Don Corleone with Timothy Chalamet as Tom Hagen. Clemenza dances ballroom vogue.
lonelyrangerofthedreams
All of them!
It’s a new technology applied to a new artistic way to adapt the original script.
Seriously, she is cute, good and all, but FFS she is everywhere.
GCRust
I ain't ragging on Zendaya for getting that bread while she can. Hollywood is notoriously shitty to its leading ladies.
levelor
There is no official new Godfather movie in active production, but a new authorized novel titled Connie is set for release in fall 2027. Bestselling author Adriana Trigiani is writing Connie with the approval of the Mario Puzo estate.The Story Focus: The plot retells the Corleone family saga from the perspective of Don Vito's only daughter, Connie Corleone.
Darkwell
"In the works" is meaningless. Until principal photography begins assume this is all hype for clicks.
wejustdontknow
Even then it's not guaranteed.
kyro
Hell how many *completed* movies have we seen scrapped?
SalmonTheWise
Well, technically we haven't seen any of them.
nagaisu
And so the Zendaya/Holland backlash begins.
SlavaUkrainisaysSteveBuscemi
Targe0
Because money.
NomadFeetWanderingToes
And Pedro Pascal has already been cast/s (just kidding, I love Pedro, but he is a tad bit overexposed).
Bastiroid
Hollywood has a working concept. Take a successful/popular IP, genderbend or race swap popular character, internet outrage, free publicity, one group boycotts but a larger group watches the movie just to show those bigots they are wrong. Success!
Rinse and repeat.
Just in case they really cast Zendaya on an Italian mob movie.
Arbitrarynamehere
Zendaya is... The Godmother™
RecurringNightmare
i mean, you could actually make that work...great-grandson or whoever of don corleone marries a non-italian girl against the will of his family, then gets murdered by a rival family and the young widow takes over leading the family into that mafia war, while also fighting enemies inside "her" family and obviously having trouble with the cops, all in order to get revenge for her husbands death...like, hollywood has made stupider scripts into actual movies...
DonkeyGoat
Can't forget Timothée Chalamet
wandermanspacebot
He was good in that ping pong movie.
wandermanspacebot
Charlie Fantastic or whatever
EveryUsernameIsTaken4
Here we go... pedro pascal, zendaya, and tom holland.
normalizebeingalone
I remember when it was johnny depp, angelina jolie, brad pitt. They always do this. Not that its great it just isnt a surprise that hollywood always has a shortlist.
ExaDeuce
Why are we mad at Zendaya now?
RecurringNightmare
we arent mad specifically at her, but at her for some reason being in every damn movie like there are no other actresses in her age group available in all of fucken hollywood...
Turkleturts
Because like so many "up and comers" before her (cough*Pedro Pascal), she is in everything and isn't good enough to elevate those films. Her acting range is less than stellar, and her one emotion isn't enough to carry a film.
tuxedobob
I’m not getting the joke.
onlyheretoargue
Yellowchopsticks
I'd rather have Goncharov
Icetech3
This is going to be shit of epic proportions
Ehvilmonkey
https://media1.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPWE1NzM3M2U1dTExNXFsMXY1YWJjNmdxNzE2cDliaTRpODJpYng1cGtid2RraGM4MiZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/s239QJIh56sRW/200w.webp
Yasashii93
My abusive trumper and musk fanboy maga boss forever ruined The Godfather for me as it was his favorite movie.
He set the main theme as his goddamn ringtone.
allergictocantaloupe
The death of the rental market has fundamentally changed Hollywood. You could make movies that did okay in theaters because it could keep making money in rentals & VHS/DVD sales. You could make mid-budget movies. Now, everything has to do well in theaters. Big budget, IP, Sequels. There was a clip of Matt Damon talking about it. Streaming has drastically cut down on movie sales. To have a better chance of making money, they base things on something that already works, sequels, IP, spectacle.
NaughtButOne
During/after covid, a movie needed a big punch in order to get people to go sit in a confined space for 2-3 hours. That pushed the mid-budget movies onto streaming, where they tried charging "admission" for new releases, but people were pretty solidly against it. So now, you only really get huge budget in theatres, and low budget goes direct to streaming for 'free'. There's no middle. People are less concerned about covid now, but now a night at the movies costs $100, so it has a similar effect.
TheGreatAtomsk
if you remake a movie/franchise, choose one that sucked/failed and make it better!
JAPONfan
You assume they do it to have a sure hit. While the opposite might be possible.
meme2zombie
A lot of what we think of as classics did exactly that.
notmyrealface
It's about greed, not art. What you're describing is not profitable.
LurkandJerk
Will Ferrell as Sonny, Steve Buscemi as Fredo, and Steve Carrell as Michael.
SpottedDickSandwich
Too bad their M.O seems to be to take the cream of the crop and dilute it with piss.
Targe0
Because those movies made money.
And they are doing easy remakes to replicate those profits.
They want to basically sell successful movies again.
In the past they would have just re-screened the original movies again, but home video and on demand video killed that as a viable option.
Thus they do remake after remake.
totallyruinedyourday
Gotta cater to them share holders so remarking/remastering/redoing know successes is the name of the game. They have guarantee returns for their share holders…
GRZMNKY
Maybe it's Godfather III
IMakeLotsOfReferencesAndRemakes
Son of the Mask. A sequel to The Mask could actually be fun but lets get back to the more adult humor and themes and stakes and not "Dog and Baby and God fight with farts and vomit teehee" bullshit.
iamthemurray
I wouldn't mind a proper sequel but I dunno. The original was built around Jim Carrey and are there any actors who can fill those shoes and make them their own.
Targe0
They don't do that because they want a proven money maker.
That's why they only do it with successful movies.
Evenmoreuselessname
Which sucks, because there are so many great premises out there that the execution just fell flat on.
Moochicat13
Yeah but in my opinion a lot of the times when they make them over they suck because a lot of the times they don't take the care that was done the first time around
Targe0
It's not about making good movies, it's about making profitable movies and 90% of them when they remake them have made money.
Whoisthisdoctorwho2000
Oh really?.... well explain The Fantastic 4 !!
Targe0
Oh that's easy, if Sony doesn't keep making those movies the rights will return to Marvel.
So those movies aren't about making money, it's about retaining valuable movie IP rights.
Whoisthisdoctorwho2000
IDK, its think its just a tax write off
Targe0
No they need to keep making them or else they lose the rights.
And they know if they lose the rights they can't leech off the MCU any-more.
And all the Spider-man spin off movies is because they want to make their own version of the MCU, because they have the rights to every character that first appears in Spider man and Fantastic 4. So the spin offs are them trying to make money, and doing a very bad job of that.
Thisusedyet
I argue the same thing with video games as well - as an example, Nintendo (and Konami, I guess) should remake both Castlevania 2 & Zelda 2. There's some good ideas there that the NES just couldn't handle, you could make a killer fuckin' game out of those today
jt42
I'd like to see a great "Hitchhiker's Guide" movie, but I think the reason they've sucked is that it just doesn't lend itself to movie format, so I think they would just fail again. Same with Endor's Game and I'm sure a long list really.
Samja192
They literally have extremely complicated software which maps out the likelihood of a movie being a success - it's all decided by an algorithm.
haki23
That explains the rerelease of Morbius: the Morbening
Samja192
This is 100% correct. The algorithm picked up on the huge interest and engagement but obviously wasn't able to differentiate between genuine interest and just taking the piss
SarcasticComment
"It's morbing time" ~ AI suggested catch phrase for success
hotaru251
this......dont stain a masterpiece for a quick money grab :|
swedeonamoose
Unless it is about old mob bosses in a retirement home i aint watching.
Targe0
The D wing family is making a play on the music room.
We of the A wing can not allow this insult to stand.
Hirnuvahamsteri
Don made an offer on my pudding. It was not one you could refuse.
SpottedDickSandwich
Showdown (1993) Director, writer, and starring Leo Fong.
Targe0
They really can't be bothered to try a new IP.
Instead of trying to milk an extremely old cash cow at this point.
They could instead try and make a new Mobster franchise.
michiyl
New stuff gets shredded for tax purposes
medimr
The Godfather is a cash cow?
Targe0
All the movies made a good amount of money and were critically acclaimed.
And have been in syndication for decades.
It's made a lot of profits for people.
So yeah it's a cash cow.
Tol1as
The 3rd one was most definitely created just to print cash.
filiuspelei
No one wants to take the risk on something new.
SillyZombie
Hate these comments. Dozens of new IPS have come out this year, they mostly dont do well. Thats why the reuse and make sequals. Go to the movies more if you want to see more movies.
astrangehop
I saw obsession, it was great.
Targe0
And that wasn't made in the same system as major movies are.
It was basically a step above an indie film.
Most of the new IP's aren't coming out of the main stream studios, but smaller independent creators.
Or from seasoned creators who basically act as the IP guarantee. Simply because their name being attached to the project will make people go see it. Like a Spielberg Movie.
Babomonkey
Naw, there's loads of new original movies and IP coming out. Everyone mostly ignores them.
Targe0
Most of those are being made by small independent creators.
Not the kind of people who can afford the rights to make another GodFather.
Babomonkey
If you making an original then you don't need to pay for rights.
Targe0
Major studios still have the buy the rights for every movie.
It's just that new IP is often cheaper, depending on who made it.
duktayp
Starring Jared Leto as Don Corleone
freakdiablo
thedarkcanuck
MrSwissroll
It's Godfatherin' time
fformulaa
It's mob time!
DocNitro
Its Mobbing time!
And then he grabbed a mop and proceeded to mop up the blood from the shooting.
kylepayton1360
DJT Jr as Fredo
poscduke
I hope he method acts the lake trip
kylepayton1360
Jerrod kushner as Carlo