Jul 14, 2014 12:44 PM
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HippoDidIt
I LIKE GOVERNMENT.
ProphetTenebrae
Assuming this is about the US government, you don't really need to go looking for reasons to be angry at them - they come to you.
TheGoodReverendCleophusJamesoftheTripleRockBaptistChurch
the government is gunna "get" us! Despite the system of checks and balances that prevent them from doing so in the first place! Bam. sarcasm
awefulcrowded23
checks and balances? Like presidential veto power or congress' right to impeach the president? Yeah, they get used all the time. /sarcasm
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"are there for good reasons" I'm gonna need some examples for this
. . . your example of a law that is in place for good reasons is a law whose only purpose is licencing revenue?
Regulas
It's usually a trivial inconvenience (like gun registration). It's the IDEA that the law is exceptionally inconvenient that makes it so.
"Trivial inconvenience" . . . "huge breach of freedom" I can see how you'd confuse the two
But it isn't, at all, in any way (whatsoever). However it's become Symbolic of a politically charged idea so you see it as such (incorrectly
actually, it is. Further, registration laws have absolutely 0 impact on crime. The only reason to pass one is to make confiscation easier
GoBlue
Give me an example of a law that people hate that doesn't make a difference.
That gun one that was just on the front page.
that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard
How the hell do gun laws NOT make a difference?
The OP who was hating on that law explicitly pointed out that those guns were all the EXACT SAME but a different look. So the law 1/2
changed literally nothing if people just buy the same gun that's not banned. They are just looking for something to complain about.
reduction of freedom should be hated, in a nation that loves freedom.(2)
proving you know nothing about the law, or guns. Some guns had alternate models, but many did not. Not to mention that any unnecessary(1)
WeCouldAllGoPeeTogether
Legal age to consume alcohol.
That makes a HUGE difference. The fact that you can be arrested for drinking a beer at 18 but can be forced to join the army is insane.
Agreed that's insane. Making the age 21 doesn't stop anyone, that's the "makes no difference" I meant. Same with drug laws. Failed laws.
A common fallacy about some laws. This law isn't meant to stop people, it does act as a control and regulating factor however.
um, it might not stop anyone, but it sure as hell results in a lot of kids being arrested and fined or even jailed who shouldn't be. I(1)
don't know how you could say that doesn't make a difference.(2)
It makes no difference in preventing/eliminating what it was designed to do. That's my point.
TheRealKevinL
Any drug law.
Drug laws make a huge fucking difference.
Totally. That's why drug use is increasing along with our prison population.
...an increasing prison population would constitute "a difference".
An increasing prison population should mean a decrease in drug use. It doesn't.
HippoDidIt
I LIKE GOVERNMENT.
ProphetTenebrae
Assuming this is about the US government, you don't really need to go looking for reasons to be angry at them - they come to you.
TheGoodReverendCleophusJamesoftheTripleRockBaptistChurch
the government is gunna "get" us! Despite the system of checks and balances that prevent them from doing so in the first place! Bam. sarcasm
awefulcrowded23
checks and balances? Like presidential veto power or congress' right to impeach the president? Yeah, they get used all the time. /sarcasm
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awefulcrowded23
"are there for good reasons" I'm gonna need some examples for this
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awefulcrowded23
. . . your example of a law that is in place for good reasons is a law whose only purpose is licencing revenue?
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Regulas
It's usually a trivial inconvenience (like gun registration). It's the IDEA that the law is exceptionally inconvenient that makes it so.
awefulcrowded23
"Trivial inconvenience" . . . "huge breach of freedom" I can see how you'd confuse the two
Regulas
But it isn't, at all, in any way (whatsoever). However it's become Symbolic of a politically charged idea so you see it as such (incorrectly
awefulcrowded23
actually, it is. Further, registration laws have absolutely 0 impact on crime. The only reason to pass one is to make confiscation easier
GoBlue
Give me an example of a law that people hate that doesn't make a difference.
cadencorruption
That gun one that was just on the front page.
awefulcrowded23
that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard
GoBlue
How the hell do gun laws NOT make a difference?
cadencorruption
The OP who was hating on that law explicitly pointed out that those guns were all the EXACT SAME but a different look. So the law 1/2
cadencorruption
changed literally nothing if people just buy the same gun that's not banned. They are just looking for something to complain about.
awefulcrowded23
reduction of freedom should be hated, in a nation that loves freedom.(2)
awefulcrowded23
proving you know nothing about the law, or guns. Some guns had alternate models, but many did not. Not to mention that any unnecessary(1)
WeCouldAllGoPeeTogether
Legal age to consume alcohol.
GoBlue
That makes a HUGE difference. The fact that you can be arrested for drinking a beer at 18 but can be forced to join the army is insane.
WeCouldAllGoPeeTogether
Agreed that's insane. Making the age 21 doesn't stop anyone, that's the "makes no difference" I meant. Same with drug laws. Failed laws.
Regulas
A common fallacy about some laws. This law isn't meant to stop people, it does act as a control and regulating factor however.
awefulcrowded23
um, it might not stop anyone, but it sure as hell results in a lot of kids being arrested and fined or even jailed who shouldn't be. I(1)
awefulcrowded23
don't know how you could say that doesn't make a difference.(2)
WeCouldAllGoPeeTogether
It makes no difference in preventing/eliminating what it was designed to do. That's my point.
TheRealKevinL
Any drug law.
awefulcrowded23
Drug laws make a huge fucking difference.
TheRealKevinL
Totally. That's why drug use is increasing along with our prison population.
ProphetTenebrae
...an increasing prison population would constitute "a difference".
TheRealKevinL
An increasing prison population should mean a decrease in drug use. It doesn't.