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On June 14th of this year, a gunman entered the home of Minnesota State Representative Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark. At 3 o'clock in the morning, the coward entered the house and killed Melissa, Mark, and their Golden Retriever Gilbert, and gunned them down while they slept.
When Hortman and her husband were murdered, Trump, being the spoiled child that he is, threw a temper tantrum and refused to call Gov. Tim Walz. You know, the guy who ran against JD Vance as Kamala Harris's running partner? The guy who repeatedly humiliated both Trump and Vance while remaining civil, simply by pointing out truths? Yeah. Trump said "Fuck those Dems." and ignored what happened.
https://apnews.com/article/trump-walz-minnesota-lawmakers-shot-call-064092d14bea4c3141da31b7a5e5c9b3
But now that Charlie Kirk is gone, Trump has decided to issue an order that all flags be flown at half mast for Kirk. For FOUR DAYS. Despite him not being a veteran, a government official, or a politician of any kind.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/sep/11/trump-administration-news-updates-today-latest
Why am I posting this? Because I was born in the USA. I've lived here my whole life. I'm old, and I'm tired. I've been through way too much, and for a while now I've been ready to call it a day.
But that would be giving up. And I'd rather go down fighting, even if it's the most painful, horrific thing I'll ever experience.
My entire family is from the Netherlands. During the Nazi occupation in WW2, my great grandfather stole a Nazi officer uniform, drove up to the gates of Amersfoort, and directed a prisoner transfer. Of his wife and their children. Who had been abducted by the Nazis weeks prior. They were shackled and placed in his car, and he drove off into the night. He did not resurface until well after the war ended. He, his wife, and his children survived. Half of my family did not. They died in concentration camps. In fear. In pain. In the most horrific ways anyone could ever imagine. Choking on poison gas. Starving to death. Raped. Beaten. Shot.
My wife is Hispanic, born in Texas. We traced back her family at least 200 years, all of it in the USA. She's a citizen, more than I am. My parents were Dutch citizens in the US when I was born. I have birthright citizenship. But because I'm white, no one bats an eye. But she's asked on an almost weekly basis "Where are you from?" She's endured people screaming at her to go back home to Mexico. People yelling "Sieg Heil!" from their cars while doing a Nazi salute.
In the face of all of this, how can I not fight? How can I leave to this to someone else, and hope for the best, when the woman I've loved for twenty five years is terrified of what tomorrow will bring? Terrified that if she goes to town alone, she won't come back. That I'll be left alone at home, waiting for her to come back, not knowing what happened to her. That ICE will ignore her status as a citizen, and she'll end up in prison for no reason at all.
I'm old. I'm tired. I'm broken. But that doesn't matter, because I'm still here.
Don't give up. Whatever you do, do not give up. It's already happening again, but we can stop it. The price we might have to pay is high, but for all you hold dear, for every person you love, do not give up. Please. Don't give up.
figuringeights
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afterdarkart
@OP I'm happy to say in my town teh flags have been ordered to stay up, as no one important died.
CallMeCourierSix
That pleases me. A lot. Thank you.
Krackajak78
Charlie Kirk died as he lived, being a pain in the neck
FetteredJuvenescence
You misspelled "Trying to get innocent people killed". Which, by the way, is the difference here: I'm ecstatic that he's dead because he was far from innocent.
RTK4740
Thank you for sharing your family story.
DeVleermuis
I feel old and tired and powerless. My grandfather spent the last two years of the war hiding between floors in my great grandmother's house because he killed an SS officer while smuggling children out of the Netherlands. But the best I can do is sign petitions, and vote with my morals. I'm not built for combat and I'm a klutz, and I'm scared that this really is going to be an actual fight.
CallMeCourierSix
You can help. Resistance isn't always combat. There so many other ways to fight.
https://www.corporate-rebels.com/blog/cia-field-manual
criticalmassdriver
It is up to us to be the edelweisspiraten. The oss simple sabotage PDF is widely available for the searching. It details how one can sabotage in simple every day ways. I too am older now and caring for my disabled wife and have my own medical conditions. I can't play a large part but I am doing what I can.
oldradios19772000
I'm going to be calling City Hall this morning to tell them that I do not want them to fly the flags at half mast for this person.
FRIENDisCHUMisBAIT
elecvette
He's a pos
ilovetraveler
IIRC, they wouldn't charge the person who shot the democratic congresswoman and her family with terrorism. I guarantee if they find this person, they damn sure will charge them with terrorism. Trump doesn't even pretend to give a fuck about fairness. He openly roots for terrorism against liberals.
ifeellikesheet
I needed this. Thank you.
CallMeCourierSix
You're welcome.
MioTaalas
To these bastards, other people's lives are more important than yours...
This administration is truly without morals, ethics or humanity.
Cloudraker
We dont have a flag. I was so proud of my son last night when he asked if we could get one just to fly the flag full mast in defiance of this fucking turd.
rockmanx853000
Let’s see how long till Trump gives him the medal of freedom posthumously
DaisyfromDownunder
Charlie didn't believe in empathy. So don't offer him any.
Mysocksnevermatch
I needed this. Thank you.
xj4low
Vance is going to Salt Lake today instead of NYC for the 9/11 ceremony.
CallMeCourierSix
Gotta make sure he looks like he cares about other GOP members, or they're gonna start to panic.
xj4low
Maybe vance can make another vacation of it. He's already had like 6 or 7 since elected.
huffnpuff72
Wonder what the actual rules about flying half mast are. It certainly sounds like this isn't the correct use.
ItHappenedInThe20thCentury
much respect for you, my friend
TNSCLuotaMEa4fVN
YES..It would waste Walz's time
LucilleWhoKnowsNot
Keep going. I'm a first generation Canadian from immigrant parent. I too lost relatives to the Nazi death camps. I'll always regret I never got to meet them.
gorgeousninja
Stop. Alert! Someone in US has finally managed to find the fightback button.
CallMeCourierSix
I hope everyone does. Otherwise things are gonna get reaaaaaaally bad.
johnvictor
I really wish more people realized we're in an abusive relationship, we can let the Trump regime do as they please and get away with horrors, or fight against it and it cracks down like they want to so they can justify the horrors they're doing.
StellarJay77
Unfortunately they are going to get much worse either way at this point before they maybe get better. America is collapsing and it is the people at the bottom who are going to be crushed first.
CallMeCourierSix
I suspect they will be the bedrock that we rebuild on. A new Blair Mountain, if you will. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain
Ardback
I do not understand it, Charlie Kirk should feel happy of having been killed by a gun shot.
NocturnalPigeon
He died doing what he loved the most: turning college campuses red.
Ardback
So... RIP. I hope his orange master will follow him soon...
NocturnalPigeon
Inshallah.
AnonymousMockingjay
SansAandAnguS
Just so devastating 😢
CallMeCourierSix
Lotta fuckin onions in here, I tell you what.
medimr
I almost forgot that they killed the freaking dog, too...
katolu
Vance Boelter is the name of the POS that killed them
johnvictor
It can be said he purposely didn't kill the dog outright to make the pupper suffer which they did. Truly a trash human being.
lensdavies
It's 9/11 anyway. Those are the victims I will think of and honor.
twillyth
i’m flying mine at 2x mast
RogueAndPeasantSlave
We should ignore the presidential order and fly the flags full mast these next 4 days
Playhardnaplong
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance
WackyTicTacCasualty
Sure hope you're a gun owner.
CallMeCourierSix
Been a gun-toting, tree-hugging, hippy, liberal for a long time now.
MadmanSprinkles
Idk how americans, who aren't crazy or in a cult, manage with the stress of unfolding events every day, while also having to fight tooth and nail for rights as a worker and as a citizen
How do you cope with the fact that masked "police" can just show up and your life is ruined?
My thoughts get violent when old acquaintances tell me that they support the current child rapist president :/
I wish for you and your wife's peace of mind
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CallMeCourierSix
Kratom for me. Weed when I can afford it (which isn't right now).
LeoFloof
My state legalized (a formality - no one in Maine was having a hard time getting cheap good weed) on the same ballot as the first Trump election. I hate that such an important and historic legislation immediately turned into the saddest consolidation prize ever.
That morning I made a calendar and laid out a different piece for each day of the week. I allowed myself to celebrate, but I’d give it back in a heartbeat to secure safety for our country folk.
TheMellowMoron
I mean, every single person I know, every single one, is absolutely totally exhausted over the constant barrage of evil bullshit that the people in power here want to visit on the majority of people here, and at least 70 million-ish of our countrymen *egging* it on. America will not last to 250 years.
johnvictor
America died when Trump mounted an insurrection and Biden did NOTHING to see him punished for it.
HeywouldJablowme
I'll tell you, we're not doing great. We have a feckless, worthless party, the Democrats, as our only means of fighting back. We are stuck with only two choices. Tyranny, or revolution. The oligarchs have won, and the only peace we will find is revolution that removes them from power if not their heads.
TheSmellOfWineAndCheapPerfume
Is Americans that aren’t in a cult are not okay. We simply aren’t.
MyUserNameIsAirBud
Not well
ilovetraveler
Dissociation and distraction mostly. Memes, reading, tv, occasionally daydreams of stabbing people that support child rapists, knitting. That and having to work at least a full time job to live dont leave as much time to despair about the state of Amwrica. That is until it's time to go to bed and lay awake at night and think about all of this shit.
darkninja2992
Basically, we aren't managing. We are hitting the breaking point and more of us are snapping, like this guy who snapped and shot kirk
dbox
Unknown who shot kirk or why.
darkninja2992
Generally shooting people is not an action of someone living well and in a good mental state
lizlemlerlon
We are very very tired.
Zootsoot
Speaking for myself?
It is pretty much the same kind of daily half-numb incredulity as I had during Trump’s Covid, only with even more weariness. It’s absolutely exhausting, and heartbreaking, to see the country I love being wrenched and twisted by these evil people while I feel helpless.
Zootsoot
…and speaking as one of the people whose life was changed by Long Covid? It’s making my health even worse. I just bought a cane to help me when I leave the house on bad days- and the bad days are increasing in number. With the safety net being ripped apart and so little progress made on even really getting clinical proof of diagnosis? It’s bad.
notreallyaclevername
As an American, who works as a collections agent for the IRS, and can't quit or else my children will lose their health insurance and become homeless. The fact that my job exists to take money from average working class Americans like myself, many of whom probably can't afford it, and knowing that that money goes to support Trump an his people. I can tell you that I am truly truly not okay.
LeoFloof
Hey. I feel like you need to hear this - it’s okay.
As a barely surviving restaurant worker I’m glad you have a roof over your head, I’m glad you have health insurance, and it’s okay. I’m proud of you for finding the strength to keep going to work and doing what you need to in order to survive.
notreallyaclevername
Thanks. If it weren't for the fact that I have kids, I would quit. I mean, I am the opposite of Robin Hood at this point.
samwyze
I live in the middle of nowhere. There are lots of good places to scream all around.
idiotsonfire
I dissociate hard, and spend about 8-12 hours writing, then play games for a few hours, then sleep for 4-6 hours.
TNSCLuotaMEa4fVN
hey would support the current child-rapist president even if they were the ones getting arrested. They would say, like Hitler's population, If Hitler Only Knew! Like Rump, Hitler couldn't care less. It's all about their agenda. The people mean NOTHING!
DukeDarkwood
We are not okay. Stress, frustration, rage,... we've got those in spades.
And what are we doing? The protests are nice for awareness, but we NEED more. When does the call go out? Because lone actors getting fed up are easy to pick off as they pop out. But who are we to ask the people worried for their families to just throw caution to the wind? I certainly can't; I'd be an actual liability in physical fighting and haven't the right to ask that.
It's frustrating. I want to help but don't
DukeDarkwood
know how. I've never held a gun, never trained with it, and am physically unfit for direct forms of combat. I've no wheels and little money, so I also don't know how to perform a supporting role.
I really want to know what I CAN do, when I am called.
MadmanSprinkles
Tennis racket to return tear gas to sender
Traffic cone to smother tear gas
Umbrellas for minor protection, trash can lid for major protection
Large bundles of crayons for coloured smoke
The small things work
When the time comes, stay safe but be there, that will be enough (: wanting and trying to help is more than enough
A shame I have a ton of fight in me, but live leagues away
DukeDarkwood
I face a similar dilemma - little money and no wheels.
I could do at least the second and third of those, if it did ever come to my area. But I've little more experience with tennis than the zero I have with guns. And, uh... I'm not sure what the connection of crayons with colored smoke is, so I'd have to figure that out before I know if I could do it.
MadmanSprinkles
I thought you light the crayons like candles, but I'm mixing up two things
The crayons are flammable, but to make the coloured smoke, you need a few extra things, still, easy smoke
https://youtu.be/SJe5THzGBZI?si=TnXUazPeouzq5ZXW
millenniumf
I deal with it by focusing on work and leisure as much as I can, attending as many protests as I can, firing off as many emails and phone calls to politicians as I can, and voting when the occasion strikes. I'm not burying my head in the sand, just controlling the stress and de-stressing through what actions I'm able to take.
ImAGrower
Most I know my age not held back by family or having g kids late are by far ready to go kill these bastards. But sadly, too many others who speak a good game in the end say they won't help or support an uprising even though they want it. That's the major issue. Until a real event to spark it happens, we won't see what needs to be done get done. Sadly, this country is beyond any "healing" and the cancer needs to be cut out.
LeoFloof
For me, personally, I’m in a constant state of stress/rage.

I’m barely surviving - pay is laughable, haven’t had health insurance in several years (usable health insurance in seven years), and my only PTO is state mandated accrued 1h for every 40h worked with a 40h/year maximum.
So I’m also exhausted. I cry a lot, I try to breathe a lot. I’m scared for everyone constantly. I’m in therapy, I take my meds, I pet my cats. I see no end, but act as if there will be.
dbox
I feel powerless. I try to tune news out
tiptoeingthru
I have not watched TV news or read a newspaper in... geez, close to ten years. I get enough from just the title posts passing by as I scroll Imgur and Reddit.
Relusion
Well, I've had depression and anxiety issues my entire life. Boiled over 2 days after the election when I tried to end my life when dipshit won. Shit is still fucked, and depressing but if I didn't end up in the hospital that night, I'd prolly be dead. I'm on a bunch of meds that work wonderfully(turns out I have bipolar), so being medicated. I don't drink but use a bunch of weed as well.
MadmanSprinkles
I'm still here because I get angry about it, idk how my younger self came up with "all this shit you put up with just to die?" to get myself super worked up
Glad you have meds to help (: it's a better place with you here!
DidgeryDrew
I work in public ed. It's terrible.
killergrooves85
The crazy thing is, a lot of people are cool with all this shit. They tune out. I live in Florida where Ron DeSantis has ruined the schools and the state. But most people here love what he’s doing. There’s the monsters that cheer this shit on like the Nazis in Germany did before them. There’s the people that stick their heads in the sand because it doesn’t affect them. And there’s the rest of us, horrified. Then there’s heroes that shoot Charlie Kirk in the neck to inspire us to fight back.
CallMeCourierSix
I suspect Florida has a very, VERY large population of seniors that are outnumbering the other folks. And those seniors love what he's doing because it benefits them. They don't have to care about school quality, because their kids are grown. They don't have to care about environmental issues, because they're rich and live in the best spots where those things aren't a problem. They come from a different era, and hate queers and POC. So Florida goes to shit for everyone else, but not for them.
killergrooves85
Nah, it’s the middle aged and millennial people, too, here in Florida. It’s going to vary from district to district, but a lot of people wanted Moms for Liberty freaks on the Sarasota County school board. They were too dumb to realize it would destroy the schools, too. A lot of people are anti-vax, too, even though DeSantis snuck covid vaccines into the Villages, a Trump stronghold before anyone else had access. This state is in for a rude awakening with climate change coming.
GloveFullaVaseline
Exactly. And not just old rich "Floridians." Same shit you said applies to almost our entire government.
TryHardEggplant
As a foreign-born US citizen, I left during the first Trump term. I was part of a support group for foreign born adoptees. I saw ones with minor criminal violations deported when their adoptee paperwork was found to have errors. My parents lost my paperwork. I spent thousands of dollars to get a copy, only to find my records match 3 other people. I saw the writing on the wall. My wife is foreign. We were supposed to visit my family but we cancelled our trip and I'm glad we did.
CallMeCourierSix
Please, PLEASE, do NOT come back to the US for ANY reason, unless it's unavoidable. Anyone non-white is at risk, every single day. And it will only get worse. Do what you can to help others get out if you can. And warn everyone you know, even those who are white, that the USA is NOT SAFE for them right now.
TryHardEggplant
Yeah, I told my wife that months ago and my dad is a Trump supporter so I haven't spoken to him since the election unless I have to. It's a fucking scary world right now. So many protests. So many deaths. So many escalating political tensions. 20 years ago, I was out there protesting for LGBTQIA+ rights. Dealing with racists. It got better for a bit but I agree with you. I am fucking tired.
TryHardEggplant
Also, hint for anyone trying to enter the US from Europe: connect through Dublin, Ireland. Ireland has the US immigration on this side of the pond. It will be much easier to not get scooped up if they reject you (hopefully they will release you back into Ireland. Make sure you have the ability to enter Ireland if that happens) And when you land in the US, you land at a domestic gate, so you have a better chance to not disapear immediately.
TryHardEggplant
I still agree you SHOULD NOT GO AT ALL, but if it's a family emergency or similar, it will probably be the safest port of entry.
CallMeCourierSix
All I can tell you is, I don't know anyone who's actually ok.
My entire generation will likely end up with chronic issues due to mental and emotional trauma. It's not as bad as a combat zone, I can tell you that. But it's not far off, and it's getting worse every day.
coffeeandprozac
Exactly this. We are not okay, but we're also not dead. We have the ability to make things okay for those who come after us. We just have to do this together.
idiotsonfire
The entire millennial generation in the US will have PTSD from this shit. We're living in 1930's Germany.
n3ckr0mantic
I am exhausted. Its just so overwhelming
TheAngriestBeardman
That's what they want. Cult 101, keep them tired, keep them busy, keep them confused.
CallMeCourierSix
That's also Fascism 101, and how you control a population.
TheAngriestBeardman
Exactly. The cult of MAGA is turning into the fascist nation of MAGA