Democrats deliver my ASS! They're just doing this to look good, next thing you know they'll be arguing for the same shitty surveillence anti privacy demiurge nonsense to try and take away firearm rights.
When the Sovjets did it it was bad, very bad. "I the eastern states they surveille their citizens! They have no freedom!" But now since it's a business total survaillance is okay???? It's bullshit!
This. I won’t believe they’re actually deactivated until they’re rendered physically incapable of functioning. If they’re just remotely deactivated, someone else can remotely reactivate them.
In this case, Tempe officials said they will not seek another company to replace the system, but always read these headlines with care because many cancelled contracts with Flock are just renewed with Axon, a company with an even more evil history.
Axon is better at handling data and police departments have fewer people who have access to the axon accounts, because its tied into so many other things like body cams for chain of custody - they cant be as fly-by-the-seat-of-the-pants with the axon account or half the state's criminal convictions would be in trouble going forward
Yeah one thing to watch out for is that they might just replace the cameras with ones that are inconspicuous, probably integrated into normal looking fixtures. After all, they signed a contract for them in the first place so they clearly want the surveillance, the cancellation is likely not because of a change of heart but just because the public backlash was hard to deal with, so they'll be wanting to look for similar solutions that don't attract the same negative attention.
Jerp, check for if the cameras are even removed at all, considering Flock's history of throwing a tantrum and stating they won't remove them past-contract end.
Road side cameras have been covered up from what I've seen here around Tempe. But they're is a scary amount in parking lots. like at every entrance at the Lowe's plaza... Because it's private property.
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if at this point they just “declared” they’d be removing them, wink at the camera and do nothing, and when people complain just say “it’s a long process, lots of paperwork” and just never do it
Yes but this is how to start it. And ALPR isnt in and of itself bad. Its the unlimited access, lack of audits, retention for ever, ect, that is bad. Axiom at least sells the client a server and all data stays on it. If we press hard for the safety features and audit trails /and get it passed as law/. TX out right making it not ok to work with flock is amazing
Yes but guess what, you dont need AI to do LPR. We need cops to not be brain dead. And laws to help reinforce that. So far every case of mistaken identity would have been solved by a cop just doing a hair more investigation. We need to punish the lazy cops, and that will be true with or with out AI
It is a slippery slope no matter how many guardrails you put on, someone will find a way to circumvent them to be used in illegal ways ( much less the government which is the actual danger)-
I understand that public security is a massive thing and that the past few decades have seen the world change tremendously but there has to be a better way without turning the country into a surveillance state.
It starts with better social education and a system which provides equity to all of its members, not just those who luck into money or positions. Law defines criminals, but hunger and oppression picks up the crowbar.
Everything is a slippery slope. The problem is the people. Look at the cop in FL that was planting drugs on people. Got caught on his own body cam. 90+ cases that he admitted to, and its believed there were a lot more. ALP done right is good. Did you know that police track you using ads on your phone? No warrant, no due process. Because you willingly shared your location with an app, game, website. Its the police that are the problem, and thinking of ways to get around the rules
the thing is we're very close to axon having software packages to turn an existing city milestone network into an AI netwrok that can track people and whatnot, thats coming soon
bettyphucksher6
Democrats deliver my ASS! They're just doing this to look good, next thing you know they'll be arguing for the same shitty surveillence anti privacy demiurge nonsense to try and take away firearm rights.
Bollramm
When the Sovjets did it it was bad, very bad. "I the eastern states they surveille their citizens! They have no freedom!"
But now since it's a business total survaillance is okay????
It's bullshit!
JackingMeHoff
Did the city council ban all Flock similarVigilant/Rekor/Verkada/PlateSmart/Axis/Axon/Neology/Kapsch/Avigilon/Axis cameras forever?
spidermenz
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Beefkins
"Bro has beforehead, forehead, and afterhead."
TeamGTCG
The Big Brain Boove did a good thing
TootiesMagooties
Professor x getting it done
DarthGoodguy
“Cyclops. Bring me Taco Bell.”
Guisso14
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obarey
Proof that enough pressure from the people gets shit done. Now keep going, do not give into the desperation.
Twasnotluckbutskill
Head of department
zHurk777
Disabled? Fvck that. Remove the damed things.
mohavewolfpup
Send out crews to cut them all down, faraday bag them then charge the company $1000/day to pick up the trash
CommunCreator
This. I won’t believe they’re actually deactivated until they’re rendered physically incapable of functioning. If they’re just remotely deactivated, someone else can remotely reactivate them.
Khanamana324
Good on Arizona. Now if only the state where I live would do the same thing. But no, the state government here throats flock day in and day out.
MyCommentsUsuallyHaveTypos
Arizona is a traditionally red state, so any action against Fluck is a surprise.
TheJomsborgViking
Arizona so far is going the distance, even if they only traveled feet and the goalpost is 3 miles away.
Nanntuckett
Big brained politician
ImmaCatImmaSexyCat
Bro looks like he's about to invent white people.
GravyEducation
Nobody ever talks about black Uatu
GravyEducation
Alright whose got the meme with the guy putting more layers of bald cap on every time he returns his library books?
SpottedDickSandwich
GravyEducation
Doing the Overlord's work
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[deleted]
BipedalHumanoidWithSlightlyDifferentNoseRidge
*planetarium.
Autittuderp
Oh his head in on...so on and on and on
Syovere
strangers, waiting
up and down the boulevard
emu314159127001
Well, clearly that guy is just watching everyone telepathically, and reporting back to his home dimension
jalcantara88127001
Don't insult a man doing the right thing
MechKelly
I don't see that being an insult.
ParrotHat
Nothing Mr Fivehead from Tempe hasn't heard before, though I'd put him closer to an eighthead
DarthGoodguy
He’s probably reading our thoughts right now
GravyEducation
He wouldn't try anything, he's trying to prove mutants aren't the enemy of humans
MrSatisify
egghead
GravyEducation
That would be one sore cloaca
firni
Isn’t he a member of the Legion of Superheroes?

Not a member:
firni
Seriously, I grew up on those comics! Or maybe one of the aliens with captain pike? 🧐
Jaqdakloun
Watch out, Big Content, he knows what you're thinking.
spontaneous9
So it begins
LokilairTTV
Big brain resulted in a smart move. I for one support temu megamind. He's awesome.
nero4ty2
Megamind.gif
GoneThenBackAgain
GoneThenBackAgain
Best reaction, but also meanest angle to the real life guy, for his redemption: from the imdb page
Unindoctrinated
In this case, Tempe officials said they will not seek another company to replace the system, but always read these headlines with care because many cancelled contracts with Flock are just renewed with Axon, a company with an even more evil history.
Unclescam
Don't they also end the contract and flock just keeps them on l?
presentingmedia
And trump is an investor
override367
Axon is better at handling data and police departments have fewer people who have access to the axon accounts, because its tied into so many other things like body cams for chain of custody - they cant be as fly-by-the-seat-of-the-pants with the axon account or half the state's criminal convictions would be in trouble going forward
Colopty
Yeah one thing to watch out for is that they might just replace the cameras with ones that are inconspicuous, probably integrated into normal looking fixtures. After all, they signed a contract for them in the first place so they clearly want the surveillance, the cancellation is likely not because of a change of heart but just because the public backlash was hard to deal with, so they'll be wanting to look for similar solutions that don't attract the same negative attention.
turkizno
Jerp, check for if the cameras are even removed at all, considering Flock's history of throwing a tantrum and stating they won't remove them past-contract end.
FelixT93
Or showing up and putting them right back up after the city took them down.
crimpitdown9001
Road side cameras have been covered up from what I've seen here around Tempe. But they're is a scary amount in parking lots. like at every entrance at the Lowe's plaza...
Because it's private property.
KiwiGameDev
Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if at this point they just “declared” they’d be removing them, wink at the camera and do nothing, and when people complain just say “it’s a long process, lots of paperwork” and just never do it
BarryTheCyborg
If the contract is cancelled and they're "not in use", then citizens cutting them down is not destruction of property.
Aranon1183
Yea. Denver is looking to replace Flock with Axon
meisakusen
Of course they are... Denver only ever seems to make the right decisions in making everything worse.
Aranon1183
It's still superior to the part of Colorado I'm stuck in.
ThatSonOfaBitch
They'll just contract with another ALPS provider who is not named "Flock"
Ilikecreativepeople
Normalize calling out their ALPR LIES.. They are technocrat private equity mass public surveillance systems with sophisticated spying technologies
zHurk777
Yeah, flock will do what taser did and just rename their company.
spittleteets
Not if they have half a brain...
LokilairTTV
Bro has 2.3 brains, im not worried.
spittleteets
Was waiting for someone to pounce on my set-up
whiskeywonka
Yes but this is how to start it. And ALPR isnt in and of itself bad. Its the unlimited access, lack of audits, retention for ever, ect, that is bad. Axiom at least sells the client a server and all data stays on it. If we press hard for the safety features and audit trails /and get it passed as law/. TX out right making it not ok to work with flock is amazing
nevergonnagiveyouupnevergonnaletyoudownnevergonnarunaroundand
You do realize people are being arrested for crimes they didn't commit just on the basis that ai fucked up right?
whiskeywonka
Yes but guess what, you dont need AI to do LPR. We need cops to not be brain dead. And laws to help reinforce that. So far every case of mistaken identity would have been solved by a cop just doing a hair more investigation. We need to punish the lazy cops, and that will be true with or with out AI
SavageDrums
Personally, I think it's always bad. I don't want to live in a society where anyone has access to that information.
FPAlpha
It is a slippery slope no matter how many guardrails you put on, someone will find a way to circumvent them to be used in illegal ways ( much less the government which is the actual danger)-
I understand that public security is a massive thing and that the past few decades have seen the world change tremendously but there has to be a better way without turning the country into a surveillance state.
LaughAtMemeInjectReason
It starts with better social education and a system which provides equity to all of its members, not just those who luck into money or positions. Law defines criminals, but hunger and oppression picks up the crowbar.
zombiejedediah
Which is why it's a very bad idea to introduce it in the US
whiskeywonka
Everything is a slippery slope. The problem is the people. Look at the cop in FL that was planting drugs on people. Got caught on his own body cam. 90+ cases that he admitted to, and its believed there were a lot more. ALP done right is good. Did you know that police track you using ads on your phone? No warrant, no due process. Because you willingly shared your location with an app, game, website. Its the police that are the problem, and thinking of ways to get around the rules
override367
the thing is we're very close to axon having software packages to turn an existing city milestone network into an AI netwrok that can track people and whatnot, thats coming soon
whiskeywonka
That is why we need to make a law that does not let them link the systems. AI is not the problem, the lazy cop who thinks it does things it doesnt is.