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Jul 30, 2016 4:59 PM
farmguy69
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Cheaters
MuyGuapo
When you think of the tour de France or cycling in general, who do you think of? Looks like ol' Lance wins anyway, huh?
QuantumEntangler
Because cycling is how the populous is actually governed. Lizard people on lizard bikes
DVSBSTrD
Everyone on his team cheated, but the media used him as a scapegoat.
oberkrom
Straw man on a bike, anyone?
JimboPM
I don't think you know what cheating means.
eyaka
Totally different. Not a good analogy. @OP we get it, you hate Hillary but that's no excuse to make shit up. Stop watching Fox news.
ShadeFawks
Because having a motor in your bike is called mechincal doping
Cavalrysword
So you are saying Nixon shouldn't be referred to as President?
MapleLeafEagle
I would say he should be, just b/c as far as I am aware he won the first election fairly. I could be wrong.
bdoverflow101
Republicans or Democrats. Don't matter. But for sure. That is one obnoxious douchebag in the white house.
ertworks
And this, kids, is where we learn the difference between "immoral" and "illegal"!
LordChewie
Hitlery says rules or for peasants, or she did in an e-mail, but she lost that one.
Sakkura
Hitlery? Well I guess this is about the level we can expect for this election...
AngryGroundhog
Is this in reference to the DNC email leak, or Trump asking the Russians to engage in cyberware in hopes of finding dirt on his opponent?
bdoverflow101
Money
bravecatgaming
its on the front page, but all I see in the comments are people disagreeing
iamnotcontent
You are using the word 'we' wrong.
Freemage69
An SAT-style analogy--GOP:Benghazi::BernieBusters:Cheating. Yes, DWS did everythign she could to spin the election to Clinton, despite 1/x
Freemage69
being ostensibly neutral. But you can't point to any particular byline of the party rules, and to a passage of the emails, and prove 2/x
Freemage69
actual cheating. If you could, someone would've done so by now, instead of posting vague complaints about 'fairness'. 3/3
uatec
An election isn't a prize or award.
KaiLeeAus
This is why I watch ... http://www.me-me-me.tv/images/2011/01/Cyclist-VPL.png
Enquidou
That is a neat looking bike.
CountSnarkula
Any questions about how the media can affect your thinking about the relative goodness or badness of an issue?
chefchris357
If Donny gets elected, my question is how will we punish him when he inevitably commits high treason? I'm thinking public flogging.
alchemist12345
Did any of the candidates cheat reagarding votes? If not, this is false equivalence.
ILOVEFARTING
Because corruption and complacency. N stuff.
VodkaReindeer
Oh dear. Don't try to learn life from sports.
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
Your Republicans are odd. Even when they have perfectly valid issues to talk about they prefer focus on odd insignificant details like birth
TongueTiedLabourerfromtheLandoftheLittlePeople
-certs and military service.
HeyDontBeADick
When irregularities occur because of biases distributed over thousands of people, is not the same as when there's a conspiracy to cheat...
HeyDontBeADick
What the DNC did (see email leak) was against their own rules, but it isn't illegal and the party really wants Hillary instead of Bernie.
minabear
Bernie was an independent until this year. It's not surprising that the DNC supported Hillary
Genini
What Armstrong did wasn't illegal it was just against the rules.
FindusSomKatten
and the titles werent issued by a state
daromander
Depends on what drugs he did. Some PEDs are illegal, at least in certain countries
bertttthiyass
You're surprised the GOP or DNC would really want their best candidate to represent them?
Cricketz
The leaked emails had Sanders polling higher against Trump than Clinton though, which (as far as the polls show) would make him the best one
Vantango84
There were plenty of public polls that showed that, too.
ComicShop
Maybe he polled higher, but she polled high enough to win, and is more in line with current party principles than an independent.
ComicShop
They'd rather win their candidate than win with a candidate that just put on the Democrat garb for the election.
bertttthiyass
Let's assume that to be true...why would they then "rig" the election when the goal is to win the election.
deededee
Ami missing something? I seem to remember the emails having no evidence of collusion or vote rigging?
dangerousDoc
Actually some emails showed they moved polling stations around to make it harder for Bernie people to vote
chickenburrito01
No. No they didn't.
1metalnation
What she did wasn't illegal, just unethical
BroseidonKingOfTheBros
"something something thousands of votes thrown out!" HRC won the primary by what, 4 million votes?
BroseidonKingOfTheBros
3,678,862 votes, to be exact.
minabear
Shhhh you're interrupting their circle jerk with facts
sarapls
All of your comments read like a Hillary paid bot.
deededee
Well this is a first...I guess fuck me for believing in an informed civil society.
LegoK9
But the account was made in 2012. How for back does this go?!!?!??! /s
sterken
The path to get her the presidency started while she was first lady. She was basically gifted the NY senate seat.
LegoK9
https://youtu.be/-CxX8nvLalE
VoltageXL1
I think this is referring to the dnc being very bias. But the fact you don't know which scandal it was, says a lot
buttshredder
No, he's talking about the same thing. You're just missing his point. HRC's campaign wasn't show to be involved with the DNC bias.
hadji
Someone deleted some emails from their private server, I heard...
JonathanHoag
I'm not at all a Hillary supporter, but,. Bernie isn't a Democrat. No surprise the party backed their own candidate.
buttshredder
Same. I don't think it's right or democratic, but I understand it and I'm not blaming HRC until there's evidence against her.
CoSaR
Except they didn't? What happened was some people floated the idea of interfering, and were told no, or complain about things. No Action.
punlife
I wasn't aware Debbie Wasserman Schulz was running for president...
asterysk
Hillary's friend
LackToastInToddlerAnts
Exactly. There's no evidence to suggest Hillary had anything to do with the DNC's Sanders resistance.
LackToastInToddlerAnts
In fact, she agreed to more debates, when the DNC had no desire to host them.
LackToastInToddlerAnts
She remained respectful of the primary process when Sanders chose to remain in until the very end, despite virtually no way to win.
LackToastInToddlerAnts
She helped pressure the DNC to adopt nearly all of Sanders' policies as the Democratic platform, despite being the winner of the nomination.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
Can you not see that as an obvious ploy? If she refuses she looks weak, if she can pull strings to make the DNC refuse she avoids that.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
And she would want to refuse, increased exposure was giving Sanders big poll bumps at that time, regardless of debate performance.
CitizenDickbag
Everything's explainable as a ploy when you demonize someone, yes.
TheGhostofElizabethShue
It's like you don't understand spin. Are you new? As, like, a person?
Piepersonsmom
There was doping before and there is doping going on now. Lance made a good target.
Wuz314159
To be fair, he revolutionized cheating to win.
playinglifeonhardmode
Explain? How?
Wuz314159
Cycling is a season from January to October. . . Lance only rode the Tour de France. & he was the first to autologous blood transfusion
TwoCatsZeroFucks
Exactly, and nobody liked him in cycling circles. His "teammates" eventually turned on him and his opponents don't respect him.
Piepersonsmom
Lance was an incredible athlete and leader. In a prefect world with no drugs, he probably would have won but he chose the dark side.
Sakkura
The fuck are you talking about, they were going after everyone. Of the 21 podium finishers in Lance's TdF reign, 20 went down for doping.
IAmDrBanner
"Everyone is doing it" is never gonna be a good excuse to justify something.
IAmDrBanner
In a criminal society where everyone is guilty, the only crime is getting caught. If everyone in the biking circle is doing it, well, he
IAmDrBanner
still fucked up for getting caught.
Iamtheonewholurks
To be fair, by not, he would be putting himself at a disadvantage. To compete at that level, when everyone is doping, he has to as well.
IAmDrBanner
Not arguing that, but ultimately, a violetion of the rules.
ifyourfriendsdntdanceandiftheydntdancethentheyrenofriendsofmine
It's just a shame he was scapegoated, where many forget the rest were also guilty.