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I don’t like listening to MAGA lies
Feb 12, 2025 6:19 PM
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I don’t like listening to MAGA lies
Exyr
Rather be here than Facebook or shitter
lastmanonearthbutidroppedmyglasses
I’d rather die than be a liberal. I’m a socialist.
sumthinsumthinsumthin
autocorrectfailures
Echo chambers still have differing opinions, you can sharpen your talking points while getting angry at folks just the same as talking with that one guy in your family!
animatronicChristmasChickens
"It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias."
Stephen Colbert
xaviar3000
Echo!
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turdturdleton
Liberal about some things, conservative about some others. Mostly educated with a decent moral compass and can generally discern a piece of shit when I see one
skapanda616
IMPICKLERICK
You can thank usersub for that. Funnily enough, posts that are hateful, bigoted, demeaning, or pro nazi get downvoted into oblivion before they can get traction and make it to most viral.
Its just a weird little coincidence that all of those things are considered "right leaning" or "conservative"
sirava
MichelGoussu
IT IS. And I could be tagged liberal or leftist (but I'm from France, so not involved in USA politics). The problem of that is we didn't see the failure of Kamala Harris coming. We didn't see how Trump was winning. And we do not act enough against what is coming.
meganical
Every smart American over the age of 25 knew Harris would lose because Hillary Clinton lost against Trump. Unsheltered Americans know this country is sexist and racist.
Escapist83
I feel like we're at a point politically where people can't stand anything but an echo chamber.
iamgnat
That's it in a nutshell. The MAGAts come to places like imgur and complain about an echo chamber, but the reality is that when you come from an echo chamber you think of everything in that context. Just because you came from a place that readily accepts that the sky is pink with purple stripes as a "truth" doesn't make a group of people that are capable of using their own eyes an echo chamber of the "other side".
Mohareb
I guess that for most of us from Europe this just feels like a normal place
iamgnat
Not so much an echo chamber as a place where the MAGA lies aren't simply accepted and instead get the light of facts shined on them.
MightyUrto
I'm a leftist, the Republicans aren't conservative anymore, at least half of the democrates are corporate conservative.
TonawandaBlue
The truth has a liberal bias
chrisinvisible
Nobody is under any obligation to give their Nazi bullshit fair representation. They can representalick muh balls, Capitan.
EllisTomago
Not everyone who utterly despises Trump and everything he stands for is a liberal.
PostalHeathen
Indeed. A lot of us are leftists.
sumthinsumthinsumthin
Yep. There are plenty of never-Trumpers who are constitutional conservatives and conservatives in general who despise him on moral grounds as well as political grounds - and see the importance of maintaining healthy relationships with our allies globally.
Psionickitten
Then there are more actually politically left people than liberals.
TonawandaBlue
The GOP has been looking for a Trump-style asshole to lead them for 50yrs
NoCapForRealForReal
People say it's an "echo chamber" - I disagree. Just because the users lean left, doesn't make it an echo chamber. Plenty of discussion to be had, while also rejecting fascism.
ilovebigmutts
Discussion? I have seen 0 "discussions".
NoCapForRealForReal
Spend more time in usersub comments then.
Psionickitten
Yeah, the discussion and "exchange of words" is definitely in the usersub. People don't massively upvote "discussion" they upvote, and thus gets put on the front page, what they perceive as correct.
NoCapForRealForReal
Ehh, don't focus so much on points.
varyael
Im here and Im conservative. I dont see maga love, no president should be a demagogue
Whatdoyousaytoanicecupoftea
Nah, imgur is just left leaning. Mainly perverts.
HarryBeauner
What is it they say about accusations?
3rdoption
"Echo chamber" is a pejorative that people use to mean "I disagree politically with too many people here".
WhatSayYouCitizen
"echo chamber" isn't a pejorative, it is a description of a place where dissenting opinions and statements are silenced to keep the status quo on certain topics so that those who agree can feel supported, comforted, and safe.
Escapist83
Which is exactly what Imgur is
iamgnat
where dissenting opinions and statements are silenced
Echo chambers don't just silence dissent. They specifically silence dissent that tries to expose the faults/lies of the group's position.
Kuiper
I will agree that there is definitely some elements of an echo chamber, and these things if not realized can become very dangerous. Since it breeds an us vs them style of thinking. It's how we ended up in this set of circumstances in the US. Obviously it wasn't liberal echochambers lol. But being conscious of the hazards helps to prevent people from being ostracized from the community, and siding with a worse echochamber which breeds hate.
Kuiper
That said, imgur seems to be doing alright. Though like I said, it's something that can become dangerous, and I'm pretty sure the majority of imgur is aware of this. It's healthy, and I like it as well. But some of the community isn't aware of it, and I do worry about that part of the community.
Zetor
I'm socialist. Don't insult me.
BANANAFLAKE
Out of the helicopter you go commie.
Zetor
Wheeee
woozle
I'm not a librul. I'm a leftist.
woozle
*but yeah I don't care if imgur comes across as that. right wingers can go to their safe spaces like twitter and facebook and shit
raitchison
You're either Liberal, Conservative or Moderate. Those who call themselves "leftists" are just far-left liberals.
woozle
incorrect. liberalism is fundamentally pro capitalism and status quo defenders. Although in the USA it can get blurry. Fundamentally leftists are anti capitalism. Liberals are also performative.
Ludus
A lot of people use a lot of those terms interchangeably (myself included) but if you want to be technical they're not.
ButtBot9900
But that's wrong.
raitchison
It's not though, you may argue it's overly simplistic but it's ultimately correct.
ButtBot9900
It really isn't.
Ludus
EverNotRelevant
I argue with liberals/leftists/progressives more than I ever do with conservatives.
meganical
There’s usually at least one person that comments in each political post that defends Republicans or conservatives, especially posts discussing government spending
PraiseAzathoth
As a Canadian, I see it as one of the very few hard left media's that is desperately trying to balance out in insane hard right propaganda you guys have at the moment
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Thesaya
Pronouns is a non issue as long as you respect them, only far right morons are trying to make calling someone their name an issue.
raitchison
It's really not, I'm a moderate Republican. Just because someone hates Trump and his bullshit doesn't make them a liberal.
JustSomeDoodWhoWantsToUseThisWebsiteToInteractWithFellowPeople
I know I definitely dont have a party anymore. I never really belonged in the right and Sanders was the last time I felt I belonged in the left.
MrSpookywasagoodboy2
It does to maga
barnsandnobel
Im no expert, but republican and liberal aren't mutually exclusive. I think you would most likely agree with the tenats of classical liberalism tbh.
Skuggen
If you're not up for licking Elon's boots every morning you're a filthy liberal. Sorry, we don't make the rules.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Can I ask what policies and positions you find appealing in the "moderate republican" sphere?
raitchison
I'm pretty old so I stand for actually traditional Republican principles like good governance, the rule of law and individual liberties, basically the polar opposite of the putrified treasonous husk of a party that exists today.
Today's Republicans like to try to insult me by calling me a RINO (Republican In Name Only) but they don't know that being called a RINO by a MAGA traitor is a badge of honor.
Ikwilstroopwaffels
Ahhh. Ok. Fair enough!
TonawandaBlue
So - you haven't voted for a Republican since Nixon?
Bubbertubs
I miss republicans like you. We can disagree and that's OK but I feel like we could still find common ground on some topics.
aducksayswhat
Similar with "conservative" - what are they conserving?
sirava
As with all labels it's a matter of interpretation. Despite being mostly a left, liberal, progressive, whatever I've always considered myself a fiscal conservative. I think we ought to be way more careful with how much we tax and what we spend it on. But I've never aligned with Republicans because I *do* see value in spending on general social welfare and think the rich should be taxed proportionally.
ontarioOT
The status quo (I.e., rich people at the top, everyone else fighting over the scraps).
Ludus
That's funny, because it really isn't. You're probably a bit further on the right than you think you are if you believe that.
WhatSayYouCitizen
Imgur is MASSIVELY a left-leaning echo chamber. There are literally violent left extremists who post in favor of murder here and it's upvoted. Given your statement, you're probably a bit further left and further towards the extremist side of the spectrum than you think.
ontarioOT
Which murder are you referring to that people were in favor of, out of curiosity?
Fifofu
Crazy how radical left and radical right kinda look the same, don't they? I mean, they have a lot in common, like the mockery tones, the disregard for accuracy, truth, and complexity of issues. Granted that the gradient have radicalism poping sooner on the right, I'd still prefer to debate with people anywhere in the center than in any extreme. I say that like a UBI and many other socialist policies defender.
WhatSayYouCitizen
When the starting point of your political stance is "no compromise, demonize your opponents, violence is OK" you are already past the point of discussion and compromise, so yeah.
Thesaya
Yeah, no. It might be American far left, but even the pro murder bits are in reaction to an extreme situation. You barely have a left in the US.
Ludus
True
WhatSayYouCitizen
funny enough political left and political right are differing by region/country!
Thesaya
Indeed, and since despite this site being majority American, it has an international userbase, there is no reason to only measure it by your scale.
WhatSayYouCitizen
I'm afraid that the OP mentioned MAGA, so while you may not measure the site's political leanings by American standards, this post is.
Ludus
Ludus
sites/stations/media, etc. Capitalism doesn't allow it. This is a for-profit company. I'm wildly and openly 'left-leaning'/progressive.
WhatSayYouCitizen
Wrong. https://www.allsides.com/media-bias/media-bias-chart
Ludus
MSNBC? Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha The AP? Hahahahahaha
WhatSayYouCitizen
This is just showing your bias