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May 11, 2017 6:12 PM
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GregHitchcock
That's a lot of horse poop
isayfuckoff
It was 3,000 winged hussars 17,000 allied cavalry. NOT 20,000 winged hussars. Namely bc they didn't have that many.
Tassyr
Isn't a kebab on a lance just a kebab kebab?
Zerberus
I wish they would make a good movie out of it.
AQueensHeart
@CaptainGrowler
CaptainGrowler
Heck yeah!!
PeacefulWarfare
How about the mongols surrounding the Chinese capital?
OnlyIHardlyKnowHerJokes
Hussar? I hardly know her!
jsmithy2334
3000* winged hussars. And a bunch of other horsies
radioFREEmadras
Splendid post. Just like to add that Rohirrim = "People of Rohan" in Sindarin, so it's already plural.
MotorsportJunkie
When men had purpose. Now we have these pink pussy hat things walking around.
Aythne
You mean women? Yeah, I know it's new but it seems to work pretty well.
justherefortheshitposting
remove kebab REMOVE KEBAB
SharkyMcSnarkface
Iforgotmyotheraccountbut
Ulm has done it soo many times
AlabasterSexington
This isn't a NSFW post Ulm will have Togo wild somewhere else.
flockofstampedeingducks
Metal AF!
DStheo
Make it into a movie !
cumbustable
STORM CLOUDS! FIRE AND STEEL! DEATH FROM ABOVE ITS AN ARMY OF WINGS!
Mack1986
Ogniem I mieczem!
BobbalishBobbus
I don't have enough lumber, food, or gold for all that. Plus I only built two barracks and the Byzantines already destroyed one of them.
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
I shall come to your aid with my army of mass red ants! Or huskarls, whatever you call them.
InternetSarcasmShouldBeInItalics
Wholololo
bpodgursky
But Hussars don't require gold once you've upgraded.
ichai
80 food, will kill the shit out of enemy archers. Best cavalry.
DestroyerBravo
I wonder how you got your barracks to make cavalry
BobbalishBobbus
Dammit! I knew someone would find a loophole in my comment.
laddeao
As it turns out it's a lot easier and cheaper to make soldiers of men then of horses. Thumbs for one thing, plus the horses would never 1/2
laddeao
Keep their shields up during a simple phalanx. Just horsing around all day long.
alteriron
did they all charge in a big dogpile like the movie or did they actually split into usable divisions and employed maneuvers
sharpasabanana
Trump would say "And where were these Hussars when the Mongolians came? Seems suspicious. Maybe we should look into that"
lenomdeplume
It was Obama... obviously.
Zoem
that kebab tag.
Captainplanetmotherfucker
Pretty fucking terrifying, I would imagine.
80sPineapple
From fire and blood...
protogenji
This post makes me want to play Age of Empires really bad.
lenomdeplume
The first 9/11....BTW.
AllTheBestNamesWereTaken
Hile Hussars! Ride them down! No prisoners!
craze
imagine the dead bodies and the smell after the battle.
isaacstoner69
Imagine all the people looting those bodies and making a fortune
AkLonewolf
those people are called the winning army. They usually killed people who took their spoils.
melotprieks
Smells like victory!
Csel
without modern plumbing it probably smelled anyways
melotprieks
They saved Europe from dark islamic yoke.
swedeonamoose
just like sweden and france saved half of europe from the evils of catholism :D
melotprieks
Like Sweden is pushing islmic immigrants into its own territory to save it from evils of enlightenment and democracy? Go sweden, I guess...
melotprieks
P.S.Were you triggered or what? Does the idea, that Poles saved Europe from Turkish yoke, make you feel uncomfortable? Typical swedish lefty
ShelixAnakasian
HD video of it happening or it's not as awesome.
natachan
Anyone got a Total War video that would be applicable?
Jorwhore
And music by Howard Shore.
DavidAndrews
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjdvf01pJXg
CheoElFlaco
This must have been after Salieri killed Mozart
GnaeusMarcius
Niiiiice, thanks for the vid
DavidAndrews
I'm bummed it cut out when it did, but it was the best i could do.
GnaeusMarcius
it was still pretty impressive. i liked the music chosen for the charge.
dreadeyeknight
And not some colorized crap either.
oyoyoyyyyy
Don't forget the audio track
HolyOldMackinaw
Largest cavalry charge in history! Only 3,000 where Winged hussars, the rest were Austrians, Germans and other assorted Polish light cavalry
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
REMOVE KEBAB!
Gingersaur
Always remove kebab. If you don't you're not playing Europa the right way!
BigBoyHam
Love Europa
literallyacunninglinguist
I heard Venice just literally did, Italian culture/food and biggest tourism spot in Italy and all that.
melotprieks
Really?
revcleo
I didn't see any kebab shops while in venice, only pizza and gelato etc
melotprieks
Nice
HolyOldMackinaw
Also thousands of German and Austrian infantry were part of the relief force and defeated a large portion of the Ottoman troops
EmanNiemThcin
No need to differentiate between german and austrian when talking about that time period. Austria was just a part of the "german lands".
HolyOldMackinaw
I should have said Hapsburg troops and allied Germans. They were still independent forces, getting them to work together was a challenge
ButtblasterMcAssmaster
Culturally yes, politically it was rather the other way around.
HolyOldMackinaw
Well the Holy Roman Empire was centered in Austria and also encompassed certain German states but these were still pretty independent.
EmanNiemThcin
Not to the extend that people believe. And the important part is that there is no definition for a 17th century german cultur that does...
EmanNiemThcin
...not also encompass austria(n culture).
HolyOldMackinaw
I'm not talking about culture but about government. The Hapsburgs ruled the HRE and had direct power in Austria, in Germany they were the
FlakBus
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED
wizardofkek
commanderhennebury350
Yes more fans
powerrangerpl
Poland, fuck yeah!
Larkos
Poland can into hero!
TheActualBruceWayne
@ThenTheWingedHussarsArrived
ThenTheWingedHussarsArrived
You called?
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
For those who want to know what people are talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=75zmIj_4LFQ
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
Also, my favorite metal band. Most of their songs are about history, I can't help myself.
Lyconous
I was so pissed I couldn't get tickets to their concert near me
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
I'm annoyed that I was introduced to them literally the week after they had a concert by me.
SirSchmoopyOfAwesometon
COMING DOWN THE MOUNTAINSIDE!
DugsDontHaveBikes
I love you for this- made my day
SirSchmoopyOfAwesometon
\m/ Mine too! \m/
ExplosivePowderKeg
THEN THE WINGED HUSSARS ARRIVED! COMING DOWN THEY TURNED THE TIDE!
WhimsicalNarwhal
BOW DOWN ITS AN ARMY OF KINGS
dankmemesfilldreams
CANNON BALLS ARE COMING DOWN FROM THE SKY JENESETTIES ARE YOU READY TO DIE
FatHeadedPanda
WE WILL SEEK OUR VENGEANCE EYE FOR AN EYE
SirSchmoopyOfAwesometon
YOU'LL BE STOPPED UPON THE STEPS OF OUR GATE! ON THIS FIELD YOU'RE ONLY FACING OUR HATE!
HolyInferno
We will always remember September.
APackOfExcitedGingers
I'll always upvote a Sabaton reference
McDouggal
https://reddit.com/r/unexpectedsabaton
Norwegianbeerbrewer
It's so good to see other fans!
MountainYankee
I saw them in Cleveland 2 weeks ago, it was amazing.
antlerbear
I saw them in Vancouver this sunday and thats been in my head for days now :D
Pinfari13
Going to see them in Tempe, Arizona tomorrow. So hyped!
TuboThePanda
I'm going to a rock festival this summer to see them, so excited!!
trubblebot
I just found out they're here in DFW the day after my birthday.
Brimdogge
Dude I live around here too, when is your birthday?!?
trubblebot
May 15th. They're playing at Trees in Dallas on the 16th. I probably won't go, but neat anyway.
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
Kislev is also my favourite faction
SlowboatToShortbus
Sounds rotten to me
Lovedbyladies
in dee north, ve have cold heads for tinking
TheresAGermanWordForThat
That's clearly the Bornland.
Talmorean
The White Lions of Chrace smirk in your general direction.
AlabasterSexington
Bretonia frowns on your shenanigans.
Talmorean
Bretonnia* Your Royarch
Talmorean
Bretonnia Grail Knights vs Blood Dragon Knights. Loser has to play Age of Sigmar.
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
Grail Knights are at their peak in the charge, but the Blood Knights would cut them up in prolonged melee
Valor123
Blood knights should win every time by virtue of durability.
DefinetlyNotARussianSpy
But the Grail Knights magical augments makes them equal opponents to the Blood Knights.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
Considering that the Polish Hussars were the finest heavy cavalry in the world, I'd say quite epic.
PatrickDawson
Austrian currasiers in the 1800 we're probably better
PatrickDawson
And the Scots greys probably
GoHomeAndBeAFamilyMan
Nemo me impune lacessit
Plat1num
We forgetting the Mongols? I feel like the Mongols were reasonably useful from the back of a pony... And results wise, not bad.
angelGrinderSciFiLover
i wanna see
shootan
It's crazy that they were completely outdated in Europe by that time, but was still extremely effective against the Ottomans.
Todesengelchen
Hussars were HEAVY cavalry? Where else has thou betrayed me, Age of Empires?
clawthewolf
The winged hussars was heavy cavalry, but originally the term Hussar referred to light-medium cavalry.
impulsivepassion
But could they defeat the anger of Imgur's gentle men?
brightSideOfLife
BlackIC
Yes. Yes they could.
sleepy1310
And then the developers of Age of Empires proceeded to make them utter shit
clawthewolf
Different kinds of hussars. Originally Hussars were light-medium cavalry, was only after the time frame of 2 that Poland and Hungary 1/2
clawthewolf
Made them heavy. In the rest of Europe they remained light-medium cavalry, with the role of heavy being filled with curassiers
JohnnyTitelips
They had high-pitched whistles attached to their wings, and they remained silent during a charge. So all the enemy would hear was (1/2)
JohnnyTitelips
a high-pitched shrieking noise coming from everywhere at once and the thundering of thousands of hooves on the ground.
CaptainShortorder
Redisia
Blasphemy! These are the best cavalry ever
kazm1936
Did they win the Heavy Cavalry World Championships?
BantersaurousRex
Twice!
dreadeyeknight
World Series.
NeutralPitStopCommenter
All of them
Toderdj
Several times yes.
MonsieurLeMoustache
It's the wings. The WINGS.
CatsIsTheAnswer
So they just winged it?
RaptorCav
Fuck yeah wings!
FencerAtHeart
Idk about winning, but they certainly slayed the competition!
AkLonewolf
SouperScott
This is some A+ shit right here, I'm very sad that it's hidden 3 comments down.
powerrangerpl
doombuggy
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
The truth is sadly a bit more melancholy. By the time of this siege (1683) the role of heavy cavalry was starting to become very obsolete 1
Mack1986
All good points. Awsome. Another consideration was their armament. Hussars would carry 2... 3... sometimes four or five loaded pistols
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
6 charge was a real deciding factor, but damn was it glorious.
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
5 they hit the enemy force from the side when they emerged from a forest. This was actually one of the last major battles where the Hussars
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
4 heavy reconnaissance force. They still did the heavy cavalry charge on occasion, including this very famous battle, which worked because
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
3 the key force of an army. The exception were the Hussars who adapted to the new war environment and turned into a sort of fast-paced
SometimesISayHistoryStuff
2 with easily mass producible fire arms and pikes and all that. Most of the major powers had a heavy cavalry component but they were never
Buckbeak1486
So, their mounted combat skills had an extremely high polish?
MandingoNumber9
GreenOnions3
I surrender, I surrender. You have won the internet today.
Daemoneyes
How is Paris at this time of the year?
GreenOnions3
...?
Buckbeak1486
Paris always surrenders in wars.
derschweiz
The winged hussars were quite possibly the most effective military unit in history, on par with the roman legions or maybe the navy seals.
Talmorean
The Companion Cavalry were pretty elite, and their comradeship was epic.
Glocktober
Found the Pole
cobragrunt
For their time and region yes.
IVlad
or like 1 tank
ZZhillTopper
I'm a huge fan of hannibal's numidian cavalry and Spanish mercenaries. They were constantly out numbered and out gunned and on enemy 1/2
ZZhillTopper
terrain but won consistently until Zama.
Larkos
Hell Hannibal lost Zama because those Numidians turned on him.
Rohirrim85
I think you are heavily underestimating the Spanish Tercio, which had Europe and America subjugated for more than a Century
laroline
Yeah till Cuba and the US kicked its ass
derschweiz
At its peak the tercio was incredibly impressive, but it was never tested against contemporary European forces.
d0o0o0d
I think you may be mixing up real life and that game of Civ you played a while back.
Rohirrim85
Educate yourself son. Tercio companies dominated European battlefields in the 16th century and the first half of the seventeenth century.
Rohirrim85
and are seen by historians as a major development of Early Modern combined arms warfare. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tercio
d0o0o0d
I don't doubt they were effective in Europe, but America is a very big place and I doubt any Tericos so much as set foot on 95% of it.
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
It's an apples and oranges kinda situation. They all served completely different rolls. I'd compare the Hussars to the Ottoman Janissaries.
ImNotAlwaysAnAsshole
Ha! Nerds!
jsmithy2334
Never understood that phrase. You can still compare an apple to an orange. It's like comparing a dog to a cat. Of course they're different
Cardan011
Jannisaries were infantry, Spahis were calvary
derschweiz
I argue effectiveness in terms of success amongst peer groups at the time. Hussars outclassed everything at their peak, like the legionaries
UserSubHunterOfIndeterminateGender
If you're talking about how superior they were to other cavalry like the Legions were to tribal warbands, then I can see what you're saying.
derschweiz
Yea, they were essentially peerless. Only once technology (superior ottoman gunpowder) surpassed them did they begin to decline.
finwolven
Legion were also superior to other major empires of the era, mainly Parthians and Carthaginians who fielded standing armies as well.
DVSBSTrD
Then what the hell happened to Poland?
AndIThinkToMyselfWhatAWonderfulWorld
Russia, Germany and then Russia again.
NeutralPitStopCommenter
Wit bombs and shit
Aetherblade
And France before those.
GNiko
And that's just part of the 20th century. People have been trampling over Poland for centuries.
d0o0o0d
Starting between Russia and Germany is hardmode.
derschweiz
A mix of shit governance, outdated tech, and thePrussians, Russians, and Ottomans constantly beating them down.
Niddhoger
They shat the bed with their government. Passed a law saying any nobleman could veto a new law if it hurt his interests. 1/2
Niddhoger
So naturally foreign powers began bribing Polish nobles into grid-locking Poland's government. While the country was in disarray 2/2
Niddhoger
grrrr Russia, Germany, and Austria launched a coordinated invasion. A disorganized Poland couldn't properly fight back 3/3
Andolomar
Got too powerful so their enemies teamed up. Poland couldn't resist all of their enemies at once. That was the first partition. For the...
Andolomar
... second partition, the Poles have a habit of keeping carp in their bathtubs, so they were partitioned a second time for that.
Andolomar
Seriously though, where does that come from? My Czech friend does that too.
contrabasso
Kinda disappeared off the map, came back, disappeared again, came back....
melotprieks
She was betrayed by those she saved. Typical.
DVSBSTrD
Wasn't there also something about how land was inherited among the nobility? IIRC provinces were divided up among all the male offspring.