AMA of a Lingerie Fitter pt. 2

Apr 28, 2014 5:44 PM

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This is probably my most asked question. But unfortunately, there really isn't one specific answer.
This is a huge grey area. Because on one hand, you don't want to offend anyone, but on the other hand, you don't want any customers feeling uncomfortable. There also isn't any way to tell if a man is a legit trans or drag queen without being WAY too personal, and not just preying on women. Unlikely, but when you're a major company, you don't risk things.
Typically, what I would do, if the situation presented itself, was let them use our fitting rooms and lock all of the other doors, and then send the other ladies right across the department to the other lady fitting room.
I dunno if that's proper, or whatever, but I sure as hell wasn't going to deny them the use of a room and I wanted to avoid all conflict.
I only had to do that once, though. Usually if a trans person wanted to try something on, they just took it home and brought it back if it didn't fit.
Same went for drag/crossdressers.
I only fit a m-f trans in our rooms once, unintentionally, because she didn't look like anything but. So, from then on, I let her continue to use the rooms... no one could tell she was trans, so it didn't ever cause an issue.
Hopefully, one day, maybe they'll install trans fitting rooms?
Until society if more accepting and comfortable, that's really all you can do.

PS - If my terms/language aren't correct I'm sorry... I am trying hard to be PC but seriously I can't keep up with what's right/wrong to call a trans person so I give up. Lol. Everyone says something different.

Magic.
No, jk.
Basically, trial and error. You can be told your true size 95 times, but shit isn't gonna fit unless you find the right style for you. Shoulders, ribcage. boob flappiness, all factor into your bra's comfort.
But once you find one... it's like angels singing.

No. As far as I know that's never happened. The only sexual situations that have happened in my line of work were all by third party.

Nope. It's full of controversy, but the bottom line is even if we did allow men to fit lingerie, 9/10 a customer would have a problem with it and ask for someone else. So we just avoid it all entirely.
Remember, this isn't MY policy. I don't own the company.
And I don't really have an opinion on it, either.

Honestly, fitting for lingerie was only about half of my job. We also did a lot of work with women recovering from breast cancer, who had had mastectomy (removal of the breast) procedures or lumpectomy (removal of parts of a breast). So we'd help them find prosthetic pieces.
So helping them out was always cool. Nothing like taking a woman who just won the hardest fight of her life and making her feel pretty again.

I'm going to post a guide to types of lingerie later. :)
And tips on how to buy.

102. Didn't fit her for a bra, she actually needed a corset for back support.

A band-aid.
Lol jk.
If you're serious, try a nylon/spandex boxer brief.

I dunno, but thank the LAWD it exists.

Directory----
Story Part 1: http://imgur.com/gallery/YY4UI
Story Part 2: http://imgur.com/gallery/xiGGi
Story Part 3: http://imgur.com/gallery/5fgoj
Story Part 4: http://imgur.com/gallery/TGjBf
Story Part 5: http://imgur.com/gallery/jfpJ2
Story Part 6: http://imgur.com/gallery/J20jW
AMA 1: http://imgur.com/gallery/tqwb7
AMA 2: http://imgur.com/gallery/XII32
AMA 3: http://imgur.com/gallery/55DWr
AMA 4: http://imgur.com/gallery/U9sJQ
AMA 5: http://imgur.com/gallery/ZWpRZ
AMA 6: http://imgur.com/gallery/fm7Sk
AMA 7: http://imgur.com/gallery/2BlkA
Lingerie Guide: http://imgur.com/gallery/g26n8
Bra & Accessory Guide: http://imgur.com/gallery/ZNhPn

Am I the only one that thinks this really isn't as interesting as you think.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

This is great. Keep up the good work OP.

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 4

"Jiggliness"...

12 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 7

I don't understand the trans women in a fitting room thing, are they not just small private rooms? How would anyone else notice?

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Lace is a gift. For both the women wearing and men observing.

12 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 3

As a trans woman way to ostracize us. We aren't a disease needing quarantine. It's bad enough we have to subject ourselves to this.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

The trans one was pretty interesting. I'm FTM and luckily made the transition to men's pretty easily (I was super butch). MTF's not so easy.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

People just love Lingerie and lace and everything that goes with it. So these will continue until puffin ruins the dat.

12 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 4

As a woman who wears a 42F and was always trying to squeeze into the DDs at Wal-Mart, when I got my first real fitting I cried. Thanks!!

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

TIL: men can't do every job a women can.

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

It's not that we can't, but that no one wants us to. We also can't birth children, btw.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Oh hey I caught this in user sub.

12 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 11

Me too! *high fives*

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

This is like a first time thing for me. I feel special.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 4

Me too!

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

how about having two fitting rooms? One large one with several sections, and one separated from the others? So men can try on sexy pants too

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I laughed hard at boob flappiness. +1

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Boob Flappiness" I both shuddered and laughed

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"boob flappiness" +1!!

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

At the underwear store I work at, a trans woman comes in regularly and patiently waits until it isn't busy in the fitting room. I like them

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Never had any one try to make a fitting into a sexual encounter...is that a challenge? I think this is a challenge.

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 3

It's not a challenge.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Appearantly, as a male, I'm not allowed to go to the fitting rooms anyway.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

You might be surprised how well some trans folk pass. Good chance you've had some in and just didn't know.

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

And, well, as you discovered... if nobody can tell it really isn't a problem is it? :P

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

i measured myself using instructions online and it says im just barely a D... i was like, uh no. maybe i'll have it done professionally...

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

Finding a perfect bra: I cannot recommend Bratabase.com enough. BRILLIANT chickas who just, like, KNOW. Thank lawd for internets!

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Please help me find a goddamn bra that fits properly and contain these fucking things when I workout. As it is, I literally tape them down.

12 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 4

Title Nine's Frog Bra - it promises "it ain't pretty, but you won't bounce"

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

hooded sweatshirts work

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 5

That covers them up, but it doesn't give support. Plus it's hot as fuck when you workout in a hoodie.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

mind over matter. literally

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 1

1/2 regarding trans people: I don't think they would want a "trans dressing room" The whole point is that they would like to be treated as

12 years ago | Likes 40 Dislikes 3

Exactly, and locking all the doors / diverting traffic away is just off. It takes more confidence for us to ask then you to deliver.

12 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

2/2 the gender they identify with would be treated.

12 years ago | Likes 37 Dislikes 2

Some places have trans bathrooms. We call them unisex. Problem solved, more places should pick up on that!

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 3

Yeah, if someone is presenting as female and identifies as a woman, they should get the same treatment as the other women

12 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Who are looking for bras too. Plus it is probably terrifying for them to ask to be fitted, so I doubt there's much else on their mind.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

In Vancouver we supply 'barrier free' which is for handicapped, parents, or trans individuals that don't feel ok using gendered rooms

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

I think this is a much better idea than uni-sex dressing rooms.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

A unisex fitting room would be rad, however. It would get rid of the awkward, "oh god, which side do i use". I say this with experience.

12 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Exactly. And in a retail store it wouldn't be awkward - I mean, stores usually have a staff member supervise the dressing rooms, right?

12 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Usually yeah. And it would cut down on the judgement. I was pre HRT when I redirected to the woman's fitting room once. Embarassing as hell.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

It would also make thing far more comfortable for people, too.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

...I must be the only person who doesn't find lace AT ALL appealing.

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

For me it's garter belts. Makes me think of my grandmother, which is the opposite of sexy.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Oh god, yes, I find them quite the turnoff.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

For me it's the thongs. I just...I keep thinking I'm going to find poop stains.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I am definitely looking forward to the lingerie type guide. That would be very useful info for me.

12 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 4

+1 for floppiness.

12 years ago | Likes 16 Dislikes 2

I said the same thing. My boyfriend told me I'm not funny. +1 for you.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I think youre hilarious..

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

"Boob flappiness." What's the unit of measure for that?

12 years ago | Likes 145 Dislikes 1

Flaps (movement (cm) per wind (metres per second)).

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Flabongadongs.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm assuming it's measured in boings. The higher the flappiness, the higher the ammount of boings. Boing boing.

12 years ago | Likes 58 Dislikes 1

I'd associate "boing" with perky ones; I imagine it's more like, "fwapa-fwapa-fwapa" for flapjacks or tube-socks.

12 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

That would be a lower unit, same way a centimetre is for a metre. 10 fwapas = 1 boing?

12 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 1

Guys, we need to make this a thing. We're making this an actual unit of measurement now

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's measured in flubs.

12 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

thank you lingerie fitters, you do good work and help women to find cloths that fit us correct and make us look and feel sexy

12 years ago | Likes 123 Dislikes 5

im glad im a guy and dont need help shopping for my underwear

12 years ago | Likes 518 Dislikes 4

You sure you don't need someone to do a "fitting"?

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It's not really that for men, all underwear fit nicely and aren't ever uncomfortable. It's that we're taught to suck it up and not complain.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Getting boxer briefs that fit your...erm..."curves" nicely does make quite a difference though, both in appearance and comfort.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Guys wander into the store, go to the first rack they see, ask "does this cover my ass?" If yes, then shopping is done. Time for beer.

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

But everyone knows that boxer-briefs are the best kind of guys underwear, anyone who says differently has never tried them, or is lying.

12 years ago | Likes 25 Dislikes 0

To be fair, if it was the social norm, "Whitie Tighties" probably wouldn't be so bad....

12 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

I wear widy tidys. There. Another fact you didn't want to know about me.

12 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Idk, my man bits are fairly American... they like their freedom...

12 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

I guess mine are Greek, since they need support.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I like my boys to feel secure. Tried boxers but they tend to get stuck to my leg. I found satisfaction with boxer briefs

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Boxer guy here, after reading all the comments, I am going to have to try boxer briefs..

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

They're spectacular. I don't like the openness of briefs but boxers made me feel all loosey goosey. Boxer briefs are JUST right

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Being a man is so much simplet

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

well...except that we have to try and figure out/deal with women...

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

"Hmm 3 colours all in size medium and the same brand as I am wearing now - Yeah, they'll work"

12 years ago | Likes 124 Dislikes 0

Just wear the one pair until you see daylight. Retire. Repeat. Right?

12 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

"Woah, 24 pairs for a buck? Hell yeah!"

12 years ago | Likes 36 Dislikes 0

Where the heck are you buying underwear? Briefs are $15 for like 6 here in texas

12 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

I buy them from the homeless guy who hangs around by the dumpsters, where the heck do you buy them?

12 years ago | Likes 12 Dislikes 0

Walmart. :c

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Holy shit, here in Norway I pay like $42 for a 2-pack of boxer briefs.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

$42 USD? What's minimum wage there?

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Bleh. If a trans-woman wants to use the fitting room, you let them. Simple.

12 years ago | Likes 48 Dislikes 14

We've had legal protection for trans people to use bath/fittingrooms for like a decade and there's not been a single case like the one above

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

That man admitted to being a voyeur. Nowhere in that article does it state he claimed to be trans.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Not my company. Not my choice. Unfortunately.

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

Bleh, I get that. :/

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

In the UK it's a legal right. TMYK

12 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

In Canada it's protected by the charter. Thank goodness.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

In the US it's a legal right, too, but most people just don't know that.

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

I'm sure they could probably fight it, but I don't know.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 2

I don't see the issue with even men using the rooms. If you want privacy, don't open your door till you're dressed!

12 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

Exactly. I appreciate the fact that OP is understanding and, clearly, an Ally, but transwomen are women, so they don't need a separate room.

12 years ago | Likes 29 Dislikes 8

scenario). I don't really think there is much cause to worry about this happening too much, though. I really don't think that many (2)

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I think the point is that perverts could pretend to be transwomen to gain access to the women's changing areas (a fairly unlikely (1)

12 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 2

My comment was long: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=4XKXWdgJ

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I agree. The problem is that even though the argument isn't valid, that won't necessarily prevent it being made.

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

I'm just glad i live in a country with legal protection. Most trans people aren't so lucky :(

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Drag queens, though

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Well it's not my company, so I do what I'm told. If it were my business, sure. But it isn't.

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 1

I understand!

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

would be used very infrequently. I'm guessing it may be quite offensive as well, although I'm not generally the best judge of that. (4)

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

It would be pretty offensive, it's calling them "other," which is the opposite of what we want to do! Thanks for the reply!

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

places would install trans-specific changing rooms as, realistically, it would mean losing valuable retail space for changing rooms that (3)

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Also as a trans person there is no way I would use a trans only changing room, thats a bit too much like white or black only fountains.

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

My thoughts on the situation is that as long as people have a mature attitude, there shouldn't be any problem. In the end, it seems (1)

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

fairly arbitrary to have separate male/female changing rooms in the first place (assuming they have individual cubicles). (2)

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

I agree, but we have jackasses that fake it to perve. Also, not everyone is okay with it and a company that makes customers happy = profit.

12 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 7

Actually? There has never once been a case of a perv pretending to be trans to sneak into a fitting room. So, no, you don't.

12 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 4

Had legal protection for trans people in the UK for like 10 years and not a single reported case of that.

12 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 2

Honestly I don't think that happens that much. And I mean, think back.lot of people werent coolsharing facilities with other races. too bad

12 years ago | Likes 11 Dislikes 2

I love when the Downvote Fairy gets caught and sent into the abyss.

12 years ago | Likes 380 Dislikes 38

She got hit by a stray flapping boob.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

I like your wit, madam! Also: 'BOOB FLAPPINESS'. Yep. That's a thing.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

How do you know it was him that was downvoting everyone?

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

And now people have been going into my profile to downvote my comments.

12 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 2

It wasn't even, lol.

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 2

I think these are great, and you sound like an awesome person, and thanks for sharing, and keep on being awesome.

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Awesome stuff you're posting. Can't wait to see the lingerie buying guide. I'm a guy who loves crossdressing and just enjoy seeing this(1)

12 years ago | Likes 34 Dislikes 4

kind of stuff. I guess because I can relate.(2)

12 years ago | Likes 22 Dislikes 2

Awesome. If you ever need any makeup tips I can totally help. I love the drag/cross dressing community.

12 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

I'd be scared to do makeup on my own personally. I would butcher it. If I ever wear makeup, the first time will be somebody else applying it

12 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

It's okay to butcher it. It's so much fun! I look like a goddamn clown, but freaking love it.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

if you're interesting in trying it out there are some amazing tutorials online. Check out petrilude. Or let me know I love doing drag makeup

12 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

I haven't downvoted a single comment in this post, so once again imgur is judging someone for no reason. Really nice of you.

12 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 5

Quit gettin' all butthurt about your imaginary points..

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 6

I'm not talking about the points, I'm talking about the fact that, without knowing anything, people jumped the bandwagon to judge someone.

12 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

What'd you expect, it's human nature, sad, but true, imgurians are no different, as much as we pretend to be

12 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 2

Random question. Did you post an epic facebook spat on Imgur to only take it down a day or two later, about a year ago?

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

Yeah I did. I got tired of the messages telling me I was a terrible person.

12 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I thought I recognized the name. I remember posting a pic saying you had won that day of imgur, which is why it stuck

12 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1