What Will Happen When the USA Has A Dictator?

Jul 2, 2024 10:40 PM

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IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE: PUBLIC DOMAIN IN CANADA (Free Download)
https://www.fadedpage.com/showbook.php?pid=20171242

“IT CAN'T HAPPEN HERE is a 1935 dystopian political novel by American author Sinclair Lewis. Set in the fictionalized version of 1930s United States, it follows an American politician, Berzelius ‘Buzz’ Windrip, who quickly rises to power to become the country's first outright dictator (in allusion to Adolf Hitler's rise to power in Nazi Germany) and Doremus Jessup, a newspaper editor who sees Windrip's fascist policies for what they are ahead of time and who becomes Windrip's most ardent critic. The novel was adapted into a play by Lewis and John C. Moffitt in 1936.

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“Having previously foreshadowed some authoritarian measures to reorganize the government, Windrip outlaws dissent, incarcerates political enemies in concentration camps, and trains and arms a paramilitary force called the ‘Minute Men’ (named after the Revolutionary War militias of the same name), who terrorize citizens and enforce the policies of a corporatist regime. One of Windrip's first acts as president is to eliminate the influence of Congress, which draws the ire of many citizens as well as the legislators themselves. The Minute Men respond to protests harshly, attacking demonstrators with bayonets. In addition to these actions, Windrip's administration, known as the Corpo government, curtails women's and minority rights, and eliminates individual states by subdividing the country into administrative sectors. The government of these sectors is managed by Corpo authorities, usually prominent businessmen or Minute Men officers. Those accused of crimes against the government appear before kangaroo courts presided over by military judges. A majority of Americans approve of these dictatorial measures, seeing them as painful but necessary steps to restore American power.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/It_Can%27t_Happen_Here

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Restore American power to what though?

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

'Cause I been checkin' it out, baby

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Side note, in 1983 a guy tried pitching this as a political thriller to NBC but execs weren't sure about it and were focused more on sci fi topics due to the Star Wars craze.

They reworked the show to be about aliens coming to earth and infiltrating governments and slowly persuading the public to turn against scientific groups that could have them exposed. Show was renamed to "V" and I guess we did not pay attention to it st all back then either.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

Yeah just read this for the first time a few months ago and the parallels to today are TERRIFYINGLY close.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The Constitutional flaw: what happens when a Supreme Court is compromised. They can rule ANY tax and any law to be unconstitutional. There's no such thing as precedent. Don't think a tax is good, get your compromised Supreme Court to say it is unconstitutional. This is what happens when leaders take bribes and are blackmailed.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 0

Nah - some of us saw a massive gap in the U.S. Constitution wide enough to drive a fascist state through LONG before such rulings.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The role of Cicero, a competent leader in a era of demagogues, is being played by Biden. It didn't end well for Cicero.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Liberal(democrat) complacency is right... bunch of pencil pushers all around.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Looks like they got another book to ban

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

So strange how we all see a dictatorship happening a million miles away and still it might happen. Because of the Electoral College about 50,000 Americans actually have the power to swing an election one way or the other. It’s absurd when Trump has lost the popular vote by 3 million with Clinton and 7 million with Biden. I’m done thinking the best in people so I’m resigned that we’re about to experience the death of America.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 1

I can can recommend this one, too. Describes living in a dictatorship from the view or ordinary germans, based on interviews. https://oceanofpdf.com/authors/milton-sanford-mayer/pdf-epub-they-thought-they-were-free-the-germans-1933-45-download-43238102304/

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 0

Funny, "Windrip". Euphemism for a fart? Just like tRump nowadays is a synonym for a shit or a fart or a lie :D

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

Great book, highly recommended.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It was also a movie called "Shadow on the Land." Clips from it pop up on here from time to time.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Kangaroo court you say?

2 years ago | Likes 292 Dislikes 0

Well, since A Face in the Crowd (1957) didn't work, we could always hope for a "The Dead Zone" by SKing.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

It’s a fantastic film. More folks should watch it!

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0050371/

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

The movie so good it made me hate almost all other of Andy's work. It was just too peak

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Crazy how history repeats itself and is therefore predictable

2 years ago | Likes 60 Dislikes 2

And studying has not at all stopped it.

2 years ago | Likes 14 Dislikes 0

It's the grandest-scale version of "no money in a cure".

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

Thanks for the free download link! I've been looking for this book, but it isn't available in my local libraries....in Floriduh....no surprise there.

2 years ago | Likes 13 Dislikes 0

Governor DeSantis, is this book about you?
I'm not getting any royalties from it... it must be unauthorized. Ban it!

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Frank Zappa…. Who can imagine

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

whenever i thought about the possibility of an American Dictatorship in my lifetime i always imagined that it would get voted in, maybe even by a wide margin.

its so wild to think that if it happens, it will happen WITHOUT the consent of the American public. fascism will lose by millions and millions of votes and still win the election.

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

All I ever wanted was an okay job and to be able to live okay. That is all I ever wanted but I'll never be allowed to have it.

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

PEOPLE WITH A HISTORY EDUCATION HAVE BEEN SCREAMING ABOUT THIS FOR YEARS!

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 1

Surely if said Dictator knows, however, that any crime he commits while in the job cannot ever be charged against him, that will soften his worst impulses, right?

2 years ago | Likes 20 Dislikes 0

This but unironically -Sen. Susan Collins

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 7 Dislikes 1

Reality has officially become a twilight zone episode. Again. I mean it’s happened a few times, but those were just the Bed/ Bath versions and we’ve gotten well into the Beyond at this point

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

R.i.p. B.B.B.

2 years ago | Likes 1 Dislikes 0

Windrip, Trump, both comically stupid names for insanely driven men

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Wind-rip = rip a fart. T-rump = Top Rump

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2 years ago | Likes 98 Dislikes 3

It would be cool if he wrote a secret sequel called "Oh, Shit! It Totally Happened Here" and gave it to his publisher in secret, only to be printed and released after it inevitably happened here.

2 years ago | Likes 8 Dislikes 1

He wouldn't have to though because in the novel it DOES happen here... The title is referencing the self delusion that "that stuff happens in other places, but it can't happen here" as multitudes ignore all the signs that it is literally happening. A sequel would just be the same novel.

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

You're just showing us a different cover, right? I don't understand

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 0

Yep. Later edition

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 1

A reminder we had people telling us before Trump was elected that he couldn't do so many of the things he eventually did. That Roe was not in danger... Saw several here over that time.

2 years ago | Likes 276 Dislikes 0

It doesn’t feel good to be right

2 years ago | Likes 5 Dislikes 0

What was it? "The road to fascism is paved with 'you're overreacting'"

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 0

Man, I'm Australian and we still can't escape the effects of that fucker down here.
A guy at my work is a big Trump guy. While he thankfully isn't prone to starting political debates, he does like to throw out snide remarks here and there regarding politics. One of the few times he has tried the debate thing, he let loose the wonderfully phrased opinion that (censored for obvious reasons) "Trump's done more for the n****** than Obama ever did."
So yeah, he and I don't really see eye to eye.

2 years ago | Likes 3 Dislikes 0

You know who didn’t tell you that? Hillary Fucking Clinton.

2 years ago | Likes 4 Dislikes 7

A reminder we ALSO had people telling us before Trump was elected that he would do all the things he actually did.

2 years ago | Likes 17 Dislikes 0

Like for example Hillary Clinton and all the cringe normie Dems. Who can forget “You can’t blackmail me with the Supreme Court!”

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 1

I felt that way because I didn't anticipate the party bowing to him like a bunch of cowards. Figured even they would stand up to him but nope!

2 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

2 years ago | Likes 52 Dislikes 1

But Hillary is shifty

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2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Totally agree. And it will be so much worse the second time if he is ever re-elected

2 years ago | Likes 61 Dislikes 1

IF. Let's make sure it stays an "if".

2 years ago | Likes 10 Dislikes 1

Definitely. The election is not the 100% certainty that people are thinking or what is reported. There is a phrase that "a week is a long time in politics". Look at this week - so many things going against the Dems. But you never know what is around the corner.

Not to say we just rely on luck or a November surprise, but luck is where preparation meets opportunity, and the next 6 months is often a hard slog of preparation, no matter what obstacles are thrown in the way

2 years ago | Likes 6 Dislikes 0

"Luck is where preparation meets opportunity". I don't know where I've heard that before, but thank you for reminding me of it. Let's do what we can to make sure this country doesn't slide backwards a couple hundred years this November.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

Americans will be so tired of hearing all this they'll be burnt out and assume everyone else is voting so they can take the day to vote then just sleep. Glorious sleep. Then BACK TO WORK.

2 years ago | Likes 2 Dislikes 0

It's almost as it we haven't evolved one jot or tittle in the past hundred years, even with several explicit examples of exactly what happens with authoritarianism.

2 years ago | Likes 69 Dislikes 2

Oh, H. L. Mencken predicted the US would be a dictatorship years before this book was written, back in 1920:

"[W]hen a candidate for public office faces the voters he does not face men of sense; he faces a mob of men whose chief distinguishing mark is the fact that they are quite incapable of weighing ideas, or even of comprehending any save the most elemental — men whose whole thinking is done in terms of emotion, and whose dominant emotion is dread of what they cannot understand. So...

2 years ago | Likes 18 Dislikes 0

I never read Mencken's book, only his many essays, but this idea about emotion is one I realized a while ago about the Maga cult. They are entirely driven by emotion, and further, incapable of rational thought. These people never evolved past high school. They are the jocks and cheerleaders, and the rest of us are mathletes, debate team, and band nerds to them. They ran the high school back then, and are still salty that their dominance ended when they graduated.

2 years ago | Likes 9 Dislikes 1

...confronted, the candidate must either bark with the pack or count himself lost. All the odds are on the man who is, intrinsically, the most devious and mediocre — the man who can most adeptly disperse the notion that his mind is a virtual vacuum. The Presidency tends, year by year, to go to such men. As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal. On some great and glorious day...

2 years ago | Likes 15 Dislikes 0

...the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

It took almost a hundred years, but he was right. He's absolutely FULL of quotes like this about America and Americans. Don't get me wrong, there's a lot about him not to like. He was a racist, an antisemite, and a sexist even by the standards of his day, but god damn he had a hot pen, and he understood what makes this country tick.

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