Aug 21, 2022 8:39 AM
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CosmicWonders
People almost always say the allegations are false- but when there's numerous incidents, in different places- it's more than sus
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
It's pretty simple stuff, anyone who isn't your friend...isn't your friend. No internet/celebrity stranger is trustworthy, it's a brand
AppleJoosh
Well, fuck the messenger in this case, but not the message. Still right to pay your employees a wage in line with company profits.
BeenisWeenis
I would still like to reserve judgement until they are no longer 'allegations'. Now, it could be true, but it could also not be true.
gmish4p
Pfew! From the thumbnail I thought perhaps something bad had happened to Aphex Twin.
sargeantpacman
I was always sus of him and I guess now I know why, unfortunately
MajorPoopyPants
God damnit! I am so disappointed. What a fucking wasted.
MeekrabJones
Did new evidence come to light since he was accused before? Not trying to defend him if it's true, but all this shows is him voluntarily 1/
Resigning to protect the company and its employees from backlash. It's not the same as an admission of guilt.
OrionJC
Apparently the WSJ or another big national pub did an extensive write up on everything and reached out to him for comment and he realized...
...the gig was up so he immediately resigned and responded back with his resignation letter.
ChickenFingerFingers
Just like me and one other guy having been saying for over a year, he's a PoS.
Gosuamakenatek
I propose that the C in ACAB can also stand for CEOs.
thewax00
What he did for his employees=good. Very good.Real reason why he did it=not good. Very not good.
SexualHPanda
maddeninglemon
Turns out he really wasn't in it for the money.
dwideshruud
"Ive paid you a small fortune" "and you think this give you power over me?"
Drakhma
this was noted on imgur every single time a post about him came up.
Tarmaccian
And downvoted, because Imgurians love idols just as much as the Trumpsters do.
BabyBumbleBee3
We've known about the allegations for a but but it's nice to see some finding out
aVeryRabidDog
Was looking his company up during Imgur's whole fandom phase with him. Tons of reviews about how crappy it is to work for him.
tracereading
Just remember, before you get your pitchforks out, allegations are not a guilty verdict.
florpglorp
Good on r/antiwork for culling dan price posts early on.
Spoonf3d
When something seems too good to be true it usually is.
ThePalestGinger
This feels like a honey trap to me. One of the only good CEO's on the planet, vocal opponent of corporate corruption, unverifiable claims...
FarQuad
neither are the ones in the Meme stocks, Looking at you ryan cohen.
TheResolver
Perfect example of, all the good points you make don't mean shit if you do horrible things.
IainG101
Wrong way round; infinite good points don't excuse any other shit you do. You're suggesting because he's a shit person, his views on.... 1/2
.... expoitative workplace practices are also wrong. Yes he's a shit person, but he's still right about that 1 thing. 2/2
No, I'm saying, good points or not you lose your credibility in most circles if you do shitty things.
FluxSagrie
Oof. still worker reform and paying a good wage is good, but yikes. Doing bad is still bad even if you do some good too.
DontReinventAspirin
We've known for a while he's a piece of human excrement. That doesn't mean his perspective on humane workplaces is wrong.
Sheldonian
Something that a lot of folks don't get is that no one is binary irl, people are not good or bad, we're all just humans, and some do more 1
Selfish things than others which is usually the bad side of a person, also why I always say to not admire people, but admire the actions 2/
You think are worth following. This guy of course should pay for the consequences of being a POS to human beings but that doesn't erase 3/
The culture of being a good boss and CEO who pushes for better pay and benefits for their employees and reducing his wage, he did 4/
TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
He wasn't a good boss though. The raises were bc of a lawsuit brought on by his brother bc Dan regularly used company money for vacations
And personal expenses. He's a shitbag that got caught and tried to deflect.
Good and bad things. 5/5
Musgofarrin
Elon did what he did but instead just turned Republican in the light of exposure.
pizzabreath420
If you were his victim, which part would you care more about?
WalksWithNoFear
So the price isn’t right.
SaturnineCult
Now they can have new CEO and drop the employee salaries back to normal poverty levels!
There’s costs to everything and it will probably take a while before the New CEO needs to increase Profits to show growth, they’ll be good
pattalam
It is a software company in Seattle. 70 K is lower than what most developers there would make
robbieeeeee
Actually his salary “cut” to 1 mil was a sham. Other similar companies only pay their ceo <400k
newsguycraigevans
Yup, and several douche bags on Imgur get to claim they were "correct" about him.
MultiOfPersonality
Exactly. Even tho all his points about labor are correct.
JohnTheStork
dubimgur
70k in Seattle is already poverty.
Apoxyus
This. I make more than that but have to commute to Seattle, can't afford to live there.
Cheomesh
70k is less than some of us make in my semi-rural area :/
Aksuuuh
"Turns out the company wasn't doing great so we're dropping your pay to 15/h and all of you need to pay back 7 years worth of salaries."
"Ah yes, I'll have that gigantic CEO bonus now, thank you."
Syxcfaq
Absolutely! I mean you earned it by cutting all those salaries!
WhatTheFrench
Cutting the salaries would be legal, making it retroactive is super illegal and both the labor dept and press would have a field day.
But what’s the Fine for the crime?
Being ordered to repay the salaries at minimum, otherwise depends on state law. Also in most states paying unemployment for any employees
A sternly written letter telling not to do it again.
Imalwaysready
Funny thing is, seems he only did that high salary thing to begin with as cover for other allegations. Right thing for the wrong reasons.
I doubt it, there are worse CEOs who use NDAs and threats for the same reason, that’s far more affordable cover than being a decent boss
And to force his brother out for suing him. His brothers salary was based on profits so by giving everyone a raise he essentially axed
His brothers salary. All because he thought Dan shouldn't be using company money for personal expenses
Flodos
I'm glad Imgur's hardon for this cunt's twitter is finally deflating. Eat the ultrarich, no exceptions.
gamblingpoet
He didn't even write his own tweets. He hired a ghostwriter (who had his own sexual harassment allegations) write the tweets/press releases
Preincarnated
source?
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/18/technology/dan-price-resign-social-media.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare Paywall
Thank you.
TalkingSnake
What is it about being rich that prevents people from just being an okay person. Not great, but okay. Just don’t be bad.
LukeTheDukeFromMuc
If you don’t earn the average salary, why be average? /s
Leoncroi
Billy Butcher said it best: "With great power comes the absolute certainty you'll turn to a right cunt."
Louis CK in 1989 “racism is stupid, if you are racist that means you’re stupid. I’m sorry but it’s true.”
Louis CK in 2013 “look at my little dick with fear, repulsion and be too surprised to hit me or run out of the room while I jack off.”
sparkletempt
They think they don't need therapy because they are successful. 'Neckbeard' mentality with money
sixseasonsandamov1e
People are evil in every walk of life. Being rich just makes it easier.
Heisanevilgenius
It's not specifically being rich. Give people power and they abuse it.
Einstein9073
Causality goes the other way. If you're not a shitty person you don't make actions that cause you to become rich
Because to GET rich, you pretty much have to be a bastard to begin with. We need to stop making heroes out of rich people already.
4chyn
Money only magnifies what you already are.
khora
I think you got it wrong. Why does being an okay person prevent you from getting rich?
Monkeyfighter
Cause altruism isn't profitable in a capitalist world.
That's because being a decent human being and capitalism don't actually work together.
talkalot80
A wise friend once told me: if you put aside morals ANYONE can be rich
spinbutton3
I think because the good people don't make headlines, we don't notice them. A handful of assholes grab our attention
HarebrainedYeti
Because often times being a good person means putting others before ourselves, and in business that's detrimental to your success.
Amazing point.
The701
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/09/26/1040061474/photos-they-give-to-others-even-though-they-barely-have-enough-to-feed-their
(shorter link: https://npr.org/1040061474 ) Decent person? Then you feel compelled to help others, and share your success when you have it.
lsnasty
Nothing, and it doesn’t. We just hear more about the rich ones.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
LaffertyDanie1
Most people are shitty but having money just enables extra shittiness
unluckyandbored
In order to be rich you have to not care about others.
Thephedora
Lot of "rich," people don't do crazy stuff and are ok people. The huge offenders though, They're in the news alot. Musk, Zuckerberg, bezos..
OverpricedCrayon
Because it’s a lot of lying, cheating, stealing, backstabbing, and lack of empathy that gets you a lot of money in this world.
rlbaldo77
Heard someone say that the rich&powerful basically are nutcases, all of them.
That's because normal people understand the role others played in their success whereas rich people think they did it all themselves.
[deleted]
iirc psychopathic behavior was the term used, on par with serial killers, etc.
petekeller
Yes. Totally agree with that.
IconicM
Confirmation bias. There are a few million rich people in the US. This is one, and he was vocal on Twitter.
Have you met and known any actual rich people for a while? They suck.
TheMentallyillist
Most wealth is generational wealth. Passed down from Cocksucker Sr to Cocksucker Jr to Cocksucker the Third. Along with the entitlement
Sometimes people are brilliant in one area- but horrible in others. He's good at business- but bad and toxic at intimacy.
Willowknowsall
How about ok people have a moral sense that prevents them from doing a lot of the things it takes to get or stay rich
LookNoHands119
Power corrupts absolutely. The more power, the greater the temptation to abuse it. No one is perfect so everyone succumbs eventually.
Idontneedrealfacts
Pray no one digs too deep into your life and finds things you forgave yourself for
Like… you can literally be a discount Larry Flynn. Putting out tweets like “it’s Friday, I’m in X city and looking to get stupid.” And it -
wouldn’t matter. Be rich, get laid, do dumb shit. Don’t hurt people and lie. Why is this difficult.
reddles
If you're rich, a lot of people either want your money or to see you fall. Getting laid and doing dumb shit are an invitation to such people
BeardyBomb
Mainly because to just GET to that level of rich, tou have to be a shitty person.
SimiKusoni
I mean the majority inherit that wealth, and I think that definitely contributes to them being shitty people. I say that as somebody that
was born into quite a wealthy family. It took me decades of running a business and working with staff to slowly realise I was the arsehole.
ThatGermanBlackDude
It's the power, my dude/tte. They feel untouchable and acting like cunts in one way or another.
ChickenROAR
Most people are bastards. Power and wealth just brings it out more.
aap71
right? like, the janitor is also an asshole. he just can't impose himself. he just mutters awfule shit to himself as he takes out the trash
1) I don't recall saying "asshole". 2) I do recall saying "most people". 3) What janitor?! Did you just get buthurt for a fictional janitor?
MikuJess
Especially raping children. Money making you an asshole, fine, I can see it, but every rich person seems to turn into a pedophile, wtf?!
RealityIsOftenDisappointing
You probably hear nothing about the ‘good ones’ because they are terribly boring and not newsworthy.
I’ve known rich people who don’t make the news. They still do weird shit.
Meh. Just challenging conventional thought. Easy to judge. Harder to understand.
CosmicWonders
People almost always say the allegations are false- but when there's numerous incidents, in different places- it's more than sus
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
It's pretty simple stuff, anyone who isn't your friend...isn't your friend. No internet/celebrity stranger is trustworthy, it's a brand
AppleJoosh
Well, fuck the messenger in this case, but not the message. Still right to pay your employees a wage in line with company profits.
BeenisWeenis
I would still like to reserve judgement until they are no longer 'allegations'. Now, it could be true, but it could also not be true.
gmish4p
Pfew! From the thumbnail I thought perhaps something bad had happened to Aphex Twin.
sargeantpacman
I was always sus of him and I guess now I know why, unfortunately
MajorPoopyPants
God damnit! I am so disappointed. What a fucking wasted.
MeekrabJones
Did new evidence come to light since he was accused before? Not trying to defend him if it's true, but all this shows is him voluntarily 1/
MeekrabJones
Resigning to protect the company and its employees from backlash. It's not the same as an admission of guilt.
OrionJC
Apparently the WSJ or another big national pub did an extensive write up on everything and reached out to him for comment and he realized...
OrionJC
...the gig was up so he immediately resigned and responded back with his resignation letter.
ChickenFingerFingers
Just like me and one other guy having been saying for over a year, he's a PoS.
Gosuamakenatek
I propose that the C in ACAB can also stand for CEOs.
thewax00
What he did for his employees=good. Very good.
Real reason why he did it=not good. Very not good.
SexualHPanda
maddeninglemon
Turns out he really wasn't in it for the money.
dwideshruud
"Ive paid you a small fortune" "and you think this give you power over me?"
Drakhma
this was noted on imgur every single time a post about him came up.
Tarmaccian
And downvoted, because Imgurians love idols just as much as the Trumpsters do.
BabyBumbleBee3
We've known about the allegations for a but but it's nice to see some finding out
aVeryRabidDog
Was looking his company up during Imgur's whole fandom phase with him. Tons of reviews about how crappy it is to work for him.
tracereading
Just remember, before you get your pitchforks out, allegations are not a guilty verdict.
florpglorp
Good on r/antiwork for culling dan price posts early on.
Spoonf3d
When something seems too good to be true it usually is.
ThePalestGinger
This feels like a honey trap to me. One of the only good CEO's on the planet, vocal opponent of corporate corruption, unverifiable claims...
FarQuad
neither are the ones in the Meme stocks, Looking at you ryan cohen.
TheResolver
Perfect example of, all the good points you make don't mean shit if you do horrible things.
IainG101
Wrong way round; infinite good points don't excuse any other shit you do. You're suggesting because he's a shit person, his views on.... 1/2
IainG101
.... expoitative workplace practices are also wrong. Yes he's a shit person, but he's still right about that 1 thing. 2/2
TheResolver
No, I'm saying, good points or not you lose your credibility in most circles if you do shitty things.
FluxSagrie
Oof. still worker reform and paying a good wage is good, but yikes. Doing bad is still bad even if you do some good too.
DontReinventAspirin
We've known for a while he's a piece of human excrement. That doesn't mean his perspective on humane workplaces is wrong.
Sheldonian
Something that a lot of folks don't get is that no one is binary irl, people are not good or bad, we're all just humans, and some do more 1
Sheldonian
Selfish things than others which is usually the bad side of a person, also why I always say to not admire people, but admire the actions 2/
Sheldonian
You think are worth following. This guy of course should pay for the consequences of being a POS to human beings but that doesn't erase 3/
Sheldonian
The culture of being a good boss and CEO who pushes for better pay and benefits for their employees and reducing his wage, he did 4/
TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
He wasn't a good boss though. The raises were bc of a lawsuit brought on by his brother bc Dan regularly used company money for vacations
TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
And personal expenses. He's a shitbag that got caught and tried to deflect.
Sheldonian
Good and bad things. 5/5
Musgofarrin
Elon did what he did but instead just turned Republican in the light of exposure.
pizzabreath420
If you were his victim, which part would you care more about?
WalksWithNoFear
So the price isn’t right.
SaturnineCult
Now they can have new CEO and drop the employee salaries back to normal poverty levels!
Musgofarrin
There’s costs to everything and it will probably take a while before the New CEO needs to increase Profits to show growth, they’ll be good
pattalam
It is a software company in Seattle. 70 K is lower than what most developers there would make
robbieeeeee
Actually his salary “cut” to 1 mil was a sham. Other similar companies only pay their ceo <400k
newsguycraigevans
Yup, and several douche bags on Imgur get to claim they were "correct" about him.
MultiOfPersonality
Exactly. Even tho all his points about labor are correct.
JohnTheStork
dubimgur
70k in Seattle is already poverty.
Apoxyus
This. I make more than that but have to commute to Seattle, can't afford to live there.
Cheomesh
70k is less than some of us make in my semi-rural area :/
Aksuuuh
"Turns out the company wasn't doing great so we're dropping your pay to 15/h and all of you need to pay back 7 years worth of salaries."
Aksuuuh
"Ah yes, I'll have that gigantic CEO bonus now, thank you."
Syxcfaq
Absolutely! I mean you earned it by cutting all those salaries!
WhatTheFrench
Cutting the salaries would be legal, making it retroactive is super illegal and both the labor dept and press would have a field day.
Musgofarrin
But what’s the Fine for the crime?
WhatTheFrench
Being ordered to repay the salaries at minimum, otherwise depends on state law. Also in most states paying unemployment for any employees
Aksuuuh
A sternly written letter telling not to do it again.
Imalwaysready
Funny thing is, seems he only did that high salary thing to begin with as cover for other allegations. Right thing for the wrong reasons.
Musgofarrin
I doubt it, there are worse CEOs who use NDAs and threats for the same reason, that’s far more affordable cover than being a decent boss
TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
And to force his brother out for suing him. His brothers salary was based on profits so by giving everyone a raise he essentially axed
TossABabyYodaToYourWitcher
His brothers salary. All because he thought Dan shouldn't be using company money for personal expenses
Flodos
I'm glad Imgur's hardon for this cunt's twitter is finally deflating. Eat the ultrarich, no exceptions.
gamblingpoet
He didn't even write his own tweets. He hired a ghostwriter (who had his own sexual harassment allegations) write the tweets/press releases
Preincarnated
source?
gamblingpoet
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/08/18/technology/dan-price-resign-social-media.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare Paywall
Preincarnated
Thank you.
TalkingSnake
What is it about being rich that prevents people from just being an okay person. Not great, but okay. Just don’t be bad.
LukeTheDukeFromMuc
If you don’t earn the average salary, why be average? /s
Leoncroi
Billy Butcher said it best: "With great power comes the absolute certainty you'll turn to a right cunt."
TalkingSnake
Louis CK in 1989 “racism is stupid, if you are racist that means you’re stupid. I’m sorry but it’s true.”
TalkingSnake
Louis CK in 2013 “look at my little dick with fear, repulsion and be too surprised to hit me or run out of the room while I jack off.”
sparkletempt
They think they don't need therapy because they are successful. 'Neckbeard' mentality with money
sixseasonsandamov1e
People are evil in every walk of life. Being rich just makes it easier.
Heisanevilgenius
It's not specifically being rich. Give people power and they abuse it.
Einstein9073
Causality goes the other way. If you're not a shitty person you don't make actions that cause you to become rich
Imalwaysready
Because to GET rich, you pretty much have to be a bastard to begin with. We need to stop making heroes out of rich people already.
4chyn
Money only magnifies what you already are.
khora
I think you got it wrong. Why does being an okay person prevent you from getting rich?
Monkeyfighter
Cause altruism isn't profitable in a capitalist world.
Syxcfaq
That's because being a decent human being and capitalism don't actually work together.
talkalot80
A wise friend once told me: if you put aside morals ANYONE can be rich
spinbutton3
I think because the good people don't make headlines, we don't notice them. A handful of assholes grab our attention
HarebrainedYeti
Because often times being a good person means putting others before ourselves, and in business that's detrimental to your success.
TalkingSnake
Amazing point.
The701
https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2021/09/26/1040061474/photos-they-give-to-others-even-though-they-barely-have-enough-to-feed-their
The701
(shorter link: https://npr.org/1040061474 ) Decent person? Then you feel compelled to help others, and share your success when you have it.
lsnasty
Nothing, and it doesn’t. We just hear more about the rich ones.
GemsAreOutrageousTrulyTrulyTrulyOutrageous
LaffertyDanie1
Most people are shitty but having money just enables extra shittiness
unluckyandbored
In order to be rich you have to not care about others.
Thephedora
Lot of "rich," people don't do crazy stuff and are ok people. The huge offenders though, They're in the news alot. Musk, Zuckerberg, bezos..
OverpricedCrayon
Because it’s a lot of lying, cheating, stealing, backstabbing, and lack of empathy that gets you a lot of money in this world.
rlbaldo77
Heard someone say that the rich&powerful basically are nutcases, all of them.
Syxcfaq
That's because normal people understand the role others played in their success whereas rich people think they did it all themselves.
[deleted]
[deleted]
rlbaldo77
iirc psychopathic behavior was the term used, on par with serial killers, etc.
petekeller
Yes. Totally agree with that.
IconicM
Confirmation bias. There are a few million rich people in the US. This is one, and he was vocal on Twitter.
TalkingSnake
Have you met and known any actual rich people for a while? They suck.
TheMentallyillist
Most wealth is generational wealth. Passed down from Cocksucker Sr to Cocksucker Jr to Cocksucker the Third. Along with the entitlement
CosmicWonders
Sometimes people are brilliant in one area- but horrible in others. He's good at business- but bad and toxic at intimacy.
Willowknowsall
How about ok people have a moral sense that prevents them from doing a lot of the things it takes to get or stay rich
LookNoHands119
Power corrupts absolutely. The more power, the greater the temptation to abuse it. No one is perfect so everyone succumbs eventually.
Idontneedrealfacts
Pray no one digs too deep into your life and finds things you forgave yourself for
TalkingSnake
Like… you can literally be a discount Larry Flynn. Putting out tweets like “it’s Friday, I’m in X city and looking to get stupid.” And it -
TalkingSnake
wouldn’t matter. Be rich, get laid, do dumb shit. Don’t hurt people and lie. Why is this difficult.
reddles
If you're rich, a lot of people either want your money or to see you fall. Getting laid and doing dumb shit are an invitation to such people
BeardyBomb
Mainly because to just GET to that level of rich, tou have to be a shitty person.
SimiKusoni
I mean the majority inherit that wealth, and I think that definitely contributes to them being shitty people. I say that as somebody that
SimiKusoni
was born into quite a wealthy family. It took me decades of running a business and working with staff to slowly realise I was the arsehole.
ThatGermanBlackDude
It's the power, my dude/tte. They feel untouchable and acting like cunts in one way or another.
ChickenROAR
Most people are bastards. Power and wealth just brings it out more.
aap71
right? like, the janitor is also an asshole. he just can't impose himself. he just mutters awfule shit to himself as he takes out the trash
ChickenROAR
1) I don't recall saying "asshole". 2) I do recall saying "most people". 3) What janitor?! Did you just get buthurt for a fictional janitor?
MikuJess
Especially raping children. Money making you an asshole, fine, I can see it, but every rich person seems to turn into a pedophile, wtf?!
RealityIsOftenDisappointing
You probably hear nothing about the ‘good ones’ because they are terribly boring and not newsworthy.
TalkingSnake
I’ve known rich people who don’t make the news. They still do weird shit.
RealityIsOftenDisappointing
Meh. Just challenging conventional thought. Easy to judge. Harder to understand.