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elduquedelaspasas
#1 "Meet the team" website section: It's me, a random guy I know that was ok with using his pic and my cat as Napping CEO. I'm serious.
hood
- Lie I tell myself: "Studying for exam." - Truth: imgur.com
NotSoSmartAlek
#1 is probably why I don't get as much work - I can't lie like that.
Sauroctonus
This is the same reason all of my written assignments were shite.
Demelious
jjenkins2357
I have lies from a hotel if anybody is interested
JoeHarkins
last month a client submitted a list of really bad design changes. I wrote back saying "let me do the job you paid me for." They did.
pongobuff
Everybody in every buisness
inchoroi
I wish I could get an entry level IT job... Every one requires experience, which I can't get, because I can't get the job. /rant
xoverthirtyx
As a designer this is all true
aureolus
As a graphic design student at PARSONS, this is the type of shit they should be teaching us.
BroadMetal
Hey, workin' in one's skivvies is valid, so long as the work is good, and the office policy (i.e. home) allows for such attire.
charliesheen420
Do you happen to be a marine?
BroadMetal
Nope! Just a chubby chick at home, writin' and editin' stuff. But I know plenty of professionals who do Very Serious Important Work at home>
BroadMetal
in their undies, or, in a handful of cases, in the total buff in their office area/room if their home's got one. Known professors who do it
idontunderstandmyself
TIL designers are liars.
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There is only one important question in this kind of meetings. - "Are you done?"
bode505
I believe this is any of us in the computing business sir/madam
JuanMoreNight
I think it's more contractor vs full time, regardless of profession
Zipp4Real
Pretty much, yes. This and google!
bode505
Agreed
ImNachoGuy
Architecture as well
Es27
Most of these apply to anyone in a job with clients.
driveslow
As a front end webber... I actually get a lot of say in what our web looks like, but we desperately need a designer. I'm a css wizzard, not
driveslow
Not a color theorist or a graphic designer.
iamghost
As a civil engineer designing site plans, almost all of these apply to my field as well.
WhatRaySay
IT business consultant here, most of these are dead on. I'm uploading the slides right now...
bode505
Yeah spot on for people right?
BubberFantasyonline
Web design is very different from computing/software industry. (source: write software for a living, and know people in web design)
bode505
Indeed the job is different but the customers we work for unless it's for a company and sometimes even if its for a company is similar
JustASlightJingleOfPocketChangePulsing
Seems quite like contract software dev work.
BubberFantasyonline
Not really, it's less dev and more designing. Anyway, these days you can build a whole website without writing a single line of code.
JustASlightJingleOfPocketChangePulsing
I meant like contract software dev work (not web) where you are doing small pieces of a hand full of projects at once and juggling then all.
MooseInTheMist
I agree. Sounds like any pm work (source: common sense)
koopaya
I'm an internet content writer. Lots of these are valid to us, too.
kevinallover
What Are The 12 Worst Things About Being An Internet Content Writer? (number 7 had me in stitches)
bode505
Going to be starting a travel blog, I am guessing somehow some of these will dickweasel into that too
Morebunnies
I'm an internet content writer too! OMG I DIDN'T KNOW THERE WAS MORE THAN ONE OF US sorry, I'm really excited.
umpbumpfizz
Particularly the deadline ones. There's nothing like knowing you have to present content in 3 hours to get your creativity fired up.
TheDesolator
So what does an internet content writer do? Is it stuff like writing the main body text for webpages?
PlasmaRoar
Lorem ipsum
koopaya
Yes, in some cases. Landing pages and product information. White page articles. A lot of professionals have us ghostwrite articles for (1/2)
koopaya
major websites. I've had stuff NDA'd to Forbes, Huffington Post, etc. And we do a lot of professional and business blogs. (2/3)
koopaya
Many lawyers, private practice physicians, real estate agents, etc. use ghostwritten blogs & press releases to raise their SEO rank. (3/3)
PutridSulfuricWaste
i dont know, being able to work at home in your underwear seems pretty prestigous to me.
adogsworld
My husband is a successful graphic designer..that is his every day life lol
MisterGrammar
As a freelance developer, can confirm. It's beautiful
IReviewDickPics
As a cam girl, can confirm. It's beautiful
thegr8rambino
So do u actually critique dick pics lol
thegr8rambino
So do u actually critique dick pics lol
IReviewDickPics
Yup, check my profile.
thegr8rambino
i do nat see dem
Candymostdandy
Our web designer at work calls me like every second day with insignificant questions, does that means he likes me? Is he trying to bang me?
elduquedelaspasas
Probably trying to avoid reworking the website after finished. Newbie? He/she should be getting emails to say "SEE HERE YOU SAID RED! RED!".
babieseverywhere
Sounds like they are either very green and insecure, or have been burned too many times with micromanaging clients.
babieseverywhere
Either way, you should both go back to the initial brief (or write one) and make sure that it is accurate and specific to what is required
Dawnstempest
It means he's either incredibly insecure, very bad clients, or yes, is trying to hit on you. Ask him which one and then you'll know.
Scrnshot
As a designer this is amazingly true, exceeeept, we all know you don't use Photoshop, you use illustrator, vectors are where it's at.
ddspill
All this is somewhat true no matter what the craft or business.
yourjokeisdumb
I'm an artist, people ask me why I quit graphic design, since "it's doing what you love for money!". This, all this shit right here
rocknpirates
ppl used to tell me " you draw amazingly why don´t you study design, it's like your thing" hell Im not doing this at all. I'm in chemistry:)
atlasgreen
As a graphic designer with friends in the fine arts, can confirm. For some reason everyone thinks art and design are the same.
ZorroMuerte
I regret becoming a graphic designer fully... should've stuck to studio classes...
420bakeacake
I've been considering pursuing a career in graphic design.. could you explain why you regret it?
ZorroMuerte
Clients will find a way to complain about everything, they expect it done within a few hours, you get people who want to copy other 1/2
ZorroMuerte
designs, majority don't like the prices you give them and expect it for cheaper, there are few moments where you are thanked for what you do
ataulm
Does anyone remember the YouTube video about the freelancer making a pitch for a yogurt granola drink? Links appreciated!
Chuis
Some of these are the marketing dept. trying to make themselves feel better.
Dunes8
I've seen sites that look like they were never touched by a graphic designer.
Papercookies
The sad thing it's not only sites. If you just look around in town. The amount of Comic Sans is horrible and it's all so goddamn ugly!
TakingTheClevelandBrownsToTheSuperBowl
I love when I pull up a site & it reminds me of what the Internet was in the early 90s. Flashing clip art & bright colors.
roadwrecker
$1000 for a logo design? Time to increase your rates.
sausageseeker
That's what I thought too.
LordNoodles
Do logos cost that much?
roadwrecker
More
LordNoodles
Why?
LordNoodles
What about small businesses?
roadwrecker
Think about the value a logo has for a business. How and where they will use it. Logo cost is proportional with their value to the company.
LordNoodles
Hah so my old company's logo they've been using since 1990 was drawn on a napkin and has given them a lot of worth being locally recognized.
SnapplePro
Logos are often a lot more expensive if you work for a design firm, but they're still missing out on a lot of dough if they're freelancing.
SnapplePro
(Although, they are often part of a larger rebranding package [i.e. business cards, letterheads, and so on...] which adds to the cost)
PeperonyNChease
It can reach hundreds of thousands in some cases. Often it's way more than just a logo, but the whole creative process and brand identity.
LordNoodles
So how did we end up with London 2012 logo
teaflow
#4- what is this "good client" you speak of?
hengenkaosu
One that doesn't want to interact with you other than supplying the information you need and doesn't review the site themselves (QA does it)
InfinitusEquitas
Some are better than others.
totallyrealname
I had ones that never gave me shit and paid straight up after I delivered. It was magical. I still remember them fondly.
V1k4
There are people who pay on time and understand that 10 years of designer experience matters alot. They know, why they are paying you.
b1ackadder
If you don't know or have any "good clients" maybe you should rethink what your are doing...
kevinallover
The ones that are a) paying more or b) have you working on something you want to do.
koopaya
The one that pays on time.
reaper1gulf
so i can give you 1/4 this week, 3/8 next week and i'll finish paying whenever i see results....
slagath0r
could be true, could be a legend
AGuyWithAMusicDegree
And let's you do your job with minimal interference. Or is that asking too much?
zuckerfuck
That's what I prefer. I have a few clients who picked me for my aesthetic, and have similar taste. I don't mind if those are more hands on
koopaya
Hahahahahahahahahaha... yeah let's not get crazy.
AGuyWithAMusicDegree
Lets*
JustASlightJingleOfPocketChangePulsing
Probably is
Xim66
The "good" clients that get actual top priority are the ones that pay fastest.
zaeyagonewild
The one that pays on time, doesn't question the amount and loves everything you make. It is REAL.
PretendThisIsACleverUsername
As a freelance: *unzips*
Ephess
Devil's advocating a bit: is it possible that y'all's design ideals are based on a symbolic system only you and other designers care about?
Zulkier
Maybe the bad ones but a decent agency will have put a LOT of thought into visually portraying the concept as strongly as possible
PeperonyNChease
It's a definite problem. Some designers get so caught up in their process they forget to design for normal people, not their peers.
Snarkoleptic
More like, people who strive to improve their sense of good taste and people who strive to be successful company owners are seldom the same
robotzombies
There's a tendency of designers learning to design for other designers, not for clients.
rockettbabe
And this is why I always got shot down in critiques... I was too commercial.
sanitypotion
I would imagine that most clients already know what they want, but they don't know how to do it themselves or describe it to another person.
kaminskivision
Also Devil's advocating here as an artist with many other artist friends: sometimes our designs are not as great as we think they are.
ohhohohhhhohh
Yes and no. It's not often that someone without a background in anything art related knows why or how to express something's visual appeal.
Ephess
As a professor of linguistics, I'd be inclined to point out that "art related" is incorrect and "art-related" is correct but 1/?
averagesizedbirdhouse
As a Philologist, if people followed some basic rules we´d all understand each other way better. As a translator, please keep going.
Ephess
prescriptivism is a load of shit and you communicate just fine without somebody's asinine elitist rules dictating what's what. And I 2/?
Ephess
think that's one of the problems that a lot of us have with graphic design people attempting to prescribe what is and what isn't worthy 3/?
ohhohohhhhohh
I wouldn't call it elitism, but I'm not the linguist. If a client's rationale is simply "because I just like it," then the job is done, 1
Ephess
according to standards the rest of us don't know about, don't care about, and don't rely on to communicate effectively. 4/4.
punkrockprufrock
I'm not involved with design, though I have friends who are. Regardless of what is "accepted", anyone can tell when something looks bad. 1/2
punkrockprufrock
There's just a consensus on designs that aren't going to look bad and that's where most projects start.
BoopBoopBeepBoop
Our design ideals are based on our studies and experience. It's like going up to your architect and telling him you don't like that column.
Ephess
But that's just it--the architect is the one who CAN take out the column. The engineer is the one who has to figure out how to make it work.
BoopBoopBeepBoop
Yes, and you get charged an arm and a leg to do so. Guess what Designers do when you want dumb changes.
BoopBoopBeepBoop
Thankfully, if our design looks bad and you like it, it won't kill you. Unlike your ceiling falling on top of you.
umpbumpfizz
It can lower conversion rates though. Bad design or UI work can definitely kill user interactions.
BoopBoopBeepBoop
Then you find some other designer who isn't bad or is more desperate and willing to put up with your shit, depending on the situation.
Banana3Scale
$1000 for a logo design? I'd shit in your coffee
aptd
And you sir/ma'am, have never branded a company!
xoverthirtyx
If your going to put it on everything you make to represent your company and make money then yeah,
MadMupp
I'll do it for a buck 50
LordNoodles
$3.50 and give me credit.
babieseverywhere
Part of a good design quote is based on the relative value of a design - bigger clients stand to make more from your work so they pay more.
MisterGrammar
That'll be $5 for the coffee and $5 for my time.
greenandgrey
Not sure if you mean that is high or low, but it's actually not high.
LordNoodles
Really? We hired local guys for way cheap. And my local university has classes that help out local businesses too, got free stuff.
SnapplePro
Yeah, I've given away my work for cheap/free while trying to get my name out in the community, but it's a really bad practice.
gmdave
Does it take seriously take 20 hours of work to get it done...?
greenandgrey
It's not about hours, it's about skill and consideration on making something that works in many contexts for years.
LordNoodles
Wish we had that much consideration into physical products
aptd
Give a designer 20 hours, or give one less and you will see the difference.
gmdave
I don't see why, simple logos aren't particularly hard to come up with. See Nike, Adidas, Intel, Dell, 7up, Fanta, Ford, Mitsubishi...
sanitypotion
They're easy to reproduce, but not to create. You couldn't write a symphony just because Beethoven used simple formulas in his writing.
arandomfish
Ok, come up with a simple yet memorable and iconic logo for a startup specialized in solar panels. Company's name is "Carver Solar Inc." Go.
Snarkoleptic
The 2012 Olympics logo cost half a million pounds.
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Snarkoleptic
Please explain
LordNoodles
That one looked like someone shit all over the multi colored carpet though. Are we sure they weren't funneling money through "design"?
Snarkoleptic
I thought that was most of the point of the Olympics in the first place
LordNoodles
Money funneling?
BillyBaloney976
It's a delicate balance. Work hard and put your heart into what you create JUST enough to not be crushed when the client destroys your work.
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SnapplePro
Hey pal!
giraficdesigner
As a graphic designer and 3year lurker @imgur, I consider myself a Giraphic Designer
goldenretrievers
hello friend :)
TheBritishAreComing
As a web developer. I communicate and work with our clients, lying just seems dumb.
littlespacebased
Yes I don't think I'd care to pay someone who actually lied like this.
PeperonyNChease
Communication is probably the most important requirement for a designer. Most schools don't stress that anywhere near enough.
Junktrunkjunkie
As an Animator I mostly agree. However in every respect I try to make them think they are my only client at the time. because I don't 1/2
Junktrunkjunkie
2/2 want them to back out because they think I'm too busy to finish on time. Even if I have 10 clients. I need the money. I don't know 2/3
Junktrunkjunkie
3/3 how long business will be this good.