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This guy commented on a mutual friend's post, original post was asking what weird things people believed when they were kids. Loads of people commented, most with things that are funny and relatable, then I notice this guy saying NASA sending humans to space is "bs", I replied to his comment and came back to find this essay. Worth the read
9/11 isn't real either
"Artificial curve of the earth"
No alternate explanation offered after saying that the atmosphere shouldn't exist
Like most people, I find space fascinating, of course I've "looked into this before"
Bonus profile pic. I wish I was making this shit up
ChristianWendlandt
Awwww it's retarded
cheesebroccolifart
Oh my fucking god get rid of that guy
dannymac63
You simply didn't do enough enough "Independent Reseacrch".
krapmyself
It's always funny to see someone who doesn't know jack shit about science trying to debunk science.
MGlowercase
The nice thing about science is that it's true whether you believe it or not. -Black Science Man
Hushkababa
The bad thing is that this person probably has or will have children and feed them this bullshit.
CanadasOnlyBlackGuy
Imagine if this use car scented douche put as much time and energy into studying/working as they put into conspiracy theorizing
Elzan
Too autistic to employ. Probably living on welfare. Good reason to stop paying taxes, so fucklords like this dude starve to death.
ThalosTheSoviet
*sees his profile pic is 'what it's like to be a free-thinker' with matrix background* I seen all I need to see
TheIronPenguin
Yeah, a friends wife shares alot of this shit on fb. Seems "free thinking" just means "blindly believe any crackpot theory you come across".
Rotholia
kevincow
I like how he goes on about "independent research," but all his "evidence" is YouTube videos made by other people.
KneelSaysTheDemonLightWithItsEyeOfCoal
Yes hello 911 I'd like to report an assault on my brain.
MeanwhileBackOnEarth
Going to the moon was merely very difficult. Faking it clearly would have been utterly impossible.
TheFragnatic
I just don't get it, even if the moon landing was faked. How tf does that mean that everything else they've done since is fake aswell
ONISpook
We built huge ass rockets, the most poweful machines built by man, to do...nothing I guess...
TheGame21x
THIS! My father vehemently believes that not only did we fake the moon landing but we have NEVER been back since.
Fivestarthedangeresque
The free thinker person strikes me as being lazy/ possibly mental challenged. Obviously someone who did not do well in school and tries 1/2
Fivestarthedangeresque
to compensate/ redeem themselves by adopting farcical ideas that don't require proof. Allowing them to be "smart" without intelligence.
ReptarCrunch
Whenever someone asks you to prove something with first hand experience, ask them to prove whales exist. 1/2
ReptarCrunch
Key point: Make sure there's no whales around. 2/2
Elzan
Problem is with this kind of person, usually they are the whale.
moonmoonjupiter
The door is too small to fit the lunar buggy... HahahahahHaHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Lionskull
I actually never looked into the lunar landing, can't wait to see the actual truth.
Lionskull
as in i'm gonna look up all the things he brought up and figure out the truth instead of the trash he is spewing.
Thorbane
It wasn't stored in the crew compartment, that's what's really stupid about that claim, it unfolded out of the descent stage of the lander.
poorwhitetrash
The dew on the ground theory is pretty convincing.
totallysherlocked
You're kidding right?
poorwhitetrash
Yes. First time my username didn't check out.
totallysherlocked
Haha thank god
RoeJaz
invaderkong
These people always confused me. Do they pretend satellites don't exist? If so, how does GPS work?
ImShaqILaughAndWalkAway
Towers
kraftwahrheit
How do they know there's a vacuum in space if we've never been to space?
Lionskull
they don't have a basic understanding of physics and technology.
eromitlab
Government tracking devices run by HAARP and the United Nations. Durr.
OhLenny
The moon landings were faked and the film footage staged by Stanley Kubrick, but due to his commitment to realism they were all ... 1
etherechoes
BAHAHAHA :D
OhLenny
Filmed on location 2.
TooFoolForCool
Can we also talk about this guy's profile picture? I eyerolled so hard I am no longer sure where my irises are.
Nethkin
If you have to tell people that you're a free thinker, then you probably aren't.
NotEasyBeinGreen
I'm mostly confused by the "LOW VIBRATIONS" one... I get what others are alluding to, but wtf is low vibrations lmao
CommanderWilliamTRiker
https://i.giphy.com/J38KDXaHGl5T2.gif
thedownlowe
I read this knowing it would make me angry... why'd I do that?
akki14
I glossed over it and got angry enough to skip 90% of it.
Seanspeed
It's good to remember people like this really exist so we push harder for better education and *real* critical thinking skills.
thedownlowe
I work with a guy that thinks this way, maybe not to this extreme. I've had to walk away from him b4 losing my shit explaining condensation
Soddo
I couldnt read it, experience show me i feel dumber after reading shit like this
Hoop66
I hoped there would be a reveal, or a conversion, at the end. Silly me.
JamesMachiels
I bet he tells girls penises over 4" are CGI...
MidiArbite
Why do people say women are bad at Geometry?
MidiArbite
They've spent their lives being told their hands are eight inches long!
Soddo
Not in thailand
xenathewarriorprincesswashot
THIS SHOULD BE TOP COMMENT!
Dayrest
You can literally buy a telescope and look at the ISS. It's in orbit. "Space" how is that not proof for people????
TurtleOnTheRocks
You're looking at a mural on the atmosphere wall, like the ones wile e coyote used to paint to trick the road runner
NATUREGOOD
You can literally look at live stream from ISS
PandaBearSoup
There's a sticker on the glass where the ISS is.
Dekker3D
They put a fancy sticker on the air-dome that keeps our atmosphere in.
dhartford93
NASA has a website to see when it passes over your house spotthestation I believe
reverendbonobo
What you're seeing there is a very tiny model of the ISS, that the government puts into every telescope we buy. It's part of the conspiracy.
eromitlab
d00d telescopes are part of the conspiracy! W A K E U P S H E E P L E
jridley
Hell you can see hundreds of satellites naked eye, and you can see the shape of the ISS with binoculars.
lilskank
I make a habit of watching it nearly every time it gets as bright as magnitude -3.
n0gal
I've pointed this out, with my telescope, to a flat earther... He said it was hanging from the ceiling that keeps the air in.
Dayrest
That's simply amazing.
n0gal
I think I'd almost be -more- impressed if we managed to pierce this so-called ceiling and hang something from the top. lol
siilverbolt3
"telescopes have georbital images that appear in the view finder when they are pointed at various parts of space" -real person at a bar once
MurphysParadox
I jokingly said that would be a standard response from crazies. I was informed it is a real response. Not sure what to make of that.
SimpleGoings
I was going to do the "im dumb and believe everything" act and say a crazy lie like this. Holy shit though, I guess I cant out stupid real
MurphysParadox
Yeah, I did that yesterday. I'm not sure if it is worse people actually use that line or that I thought it up as a (joking) response.
Lionskull
tell him to buy a telescope and pull it apart.
MurphysParadox
Don't you know, NASA/FEMA/Illuminati own the telescope manufacturers and sneak tiny/invisible computers into the parts. Duh!
Nimits
That is true, I have actually seen it myself.
reverendbonobo
You only think you've seen it, because the government puts mind-control drugs in the water supply.
AlwaysRelevantUsername
It's not impossible to see the ISS with the naked eye under good conditions.
Dayrest
I know. But I meant the shape, not just a bright light.
paul289
I'm pretty sure I saw the shuttle leaving the ISS one time.
Wolfos
It's actually very easy to spot during mornings and evenings. Looks like a bright star going real fast.
AstralBeast808
IIRC, they're called Iridium Flashes, and you can actually find a website that'll predict when they'll happen based on your location.
spartaninvicta
Good free app called Sputnik that gives you viewing angles and times of the ISS crossing you and iridium flares too
baneth
Like the Russian news outlet? Or a different app with the same name?
spartaninvicta
Different app, same name, Sputnik! With a little image of Sputnik itself
baneth
Might check it out then, thanks
trjnz
'Not Impossible', it's literally the third brightest object in the sky!
Wobbixx
I've never caught it (not really one for stargazing.) I'm going to ignore the smartass answers of the sun and moon for 1 and 2, so what
Wobbixx
Beats it out? I'm guessing Jupiter and Polaris?
trjnz
.. the sun and the moon are both in space, so, excluding those, it's the brightest?
Soddo
Opnshould ask him, ever used a gps?
username20characters
He'd probably come up w some crap about the earth being flat and essentially your gps knows the boundaries and acts like a huge Thomas Guide
etherechoes
Upvoted for Thomas Guide.
n0gal
The Iss being visible is far more damning no their argument, GPS can be accomplished with losat
n0gal
To*
Soddo
I have no idea what that is so ill take your word for it. What about pictures of the world from the moon etc or a telescope at a satellite?
n0gal
I'm not trying to argue the point, I'm just saying showing someone a the ISS (a satellite) through a telescope is the best way to dispute it
n0gal
Photos of the earth are strong evidence, but the deniers seem to take great issue with them being composite shots (because the earth is big)
Sm9yCg
Are you insane? Move their fat ass out of their stinking couch so they are forced to see and think for themselves? How dare you!
etherechoes
Clearly, NASA taped that to your telescope with some scotch tape. And don't ask them to explain how I can see fucking Jupiter.
dietderpsy
It's just an animated gif on the lens - That guy probably.
Thradeau
There's also livestreams from the ISS, such as https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzMQza8xZCc
Arsikere
because they have nothing else to believe in that's bigger than them and their sad little worlds
polymetricr
cuz captelism make u buy telscop for profit!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wolfmanwolf
damn it Marx
Koshunae
!!!!!!!!!!!
bukobg
http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/960/986/d28.gif
gifasaurous
I'm trying to sleep and I'm crying laughing at tele scoop. Thank you sir/lady
polymetricr
sorry for interrupteding your slep
SithLordSloth
lol... literally I laughed out loud. I don't type those letters often
polymetricr
Don't you mean "I dn't type thse letters ften"?
SithLordSloth
You mean: "IDTTLO"? Yeah fisho' totes IDTTLO
shibbytothelibby
BAAAH everything is just a hoax by the telescope companies. Just like the florists are behind terror crimes.
Evilaturkey
DOWN WITH CAPITALISM
polymetricr
cominisem for the wine!!!!
whyiseverythingupsidedown
That is some serious, nuclear weapons grade stupidity.
Pbmaze
+1 for choice of words
blitherypoop
Probably doesn't believe in those either.
noyouratowel
This is what an avid follower of Alex Jones looks like
Fivestarthedangeresque
word
lifeisshortsoshutthehellup
Correction, an avid follower of the "character" alex jones plays according to recent statements. Lol.
AttackOfTheSpaceBat
BUT I DO BELIEVE EVERYTHING I SAY!! But I am still playing a character.
MidiArbite
He believes most of what he says but dials it up emotionally.
splinterh00d
Not for long
LettucePrime
I was actually hoping that, with the spike media coverage the loud fuck has gotten since Trump, actual information outlets would shut him up
LettucePrime
But no. He just shuts himself up. It's gloriously simple.
conniecpu
Unlike Alex Jones, I can open a pickle jar with my bare hands
conniecpu
Haters will say it's fake
inagoddadavida
That guy's just been waiting for this moment. He'll be talking about this for weeks. To his cat.
DaniaAudax
He -was- talking about this to his cat. The poor thing up and died from the sheer stupidity halfway through.
Thorbane
It made it halfway through? Tough cat.
Lulabel73
Cats reaction
Textuality
http://imgur.com/3Xr3xQU I think this one works too.
polymetricr
that poor feline
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
I carpooled with a kid from my college to Pennsylvania (8 hours away) and he delivered an ear beating about 9/11 truth & NASA the whole way.
bladderinfection
Did you put him in the trunk? Or better yet, someone else's trunk?
Knukails
id have told him to be quiet or be stranded
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
His car
Knukails
that sucks
aDefenseless9yearOldGirl
It was actually kind of fascinating.
firstStaleSandwich
'merica. Please put more money into education. Thanks.
squirrelfury
I'd be more inclined to believe he's schizophrenic. Although mental healthcare is also something in need of better funding.
Soddo
Prob just need to do it properly to start with
Camelslayer
Would like to. Sadly the Dark Lord of the US seems to prefer the uneducated.
unknownSubscriber
ah yes, education wasn't a problem until Trump got here.
Camelslayer
I never said it wasn't. Though he isn't helping.
voulge
Education will be a bigger problem now that Trump is planning on putting all our funds into the military and veteran support.
unknownSubscriber
All of them? Not even close. More goes into our failing social programs.
WeirdStealth
the dark lord!? I thought it was the orange lord.
mithiwithi
You can't educate someone out of an epistemic closure. Attempts to educate will be interpreted at attempts to propagate the conspiracy.
Lionskull
I feel like if you teach people basic physics and chemistry (like super basics) you can build them up to show them the error of their ways.
kevincow
Most Americans struggle with algebra and basic grammar. Good luck teaching them physics and chemistry.
MetalMil
It's a step-by-step process.
TraceofSpades
He was taught these things in school. He said so himself. He's rejected them and adopted memes as a primary source of information.
Lionskull
yeah but if you teach someone simple math, and build up to energy found in fuel, gravity, and light.
voulge
You can't teach people what they don't want to learn ;w; It'll never get through their thick stubborn skulls
CommanderWilliamTRiker
this isn't an education problem, and it is not restricted to only the US
firstStaleSandwich
We hear a lot about people from the us tho. And if it's not education, what would it be?
CommanderWilliamTRiker
Ignorance and refusal to accept fact. You can teach someone something but they still have to believe it. Fact is fact.
Ifixthingsthatdestroyotherthings
Partially mental illness, combined with feelings of inadequacy or underachievement, while at the same time firmly believing you're highly
Ifixthingsthatdestroyotherthings
Intelligent. And sometimes they are intelligent but their own underachieving makes them feel that no one else is capable or competent. It
Ifixthingsthatdestroyotherthings
Mixes well with depression and paranoia and tends to lean more male both because of physiological components and the societal drive for men
elmohateshimselfbutelmosbloodlustmustbesated
MightAsWellBeCanadian
I stopped reading after "up in" instead of "upon."
GhostSparkleSmuggler
Now I feel like a chump for reading all of it.
ButterfaceTaintClown
No, you only need to look at the pictures.
ReloadedGaussCannon
Fukken saved.
MotherfuckingCats
Need TLDR pls
Idownvotewatches
TLDR : stupid people are stupid.
iFartWheniLaugh
Tldr: Earth is flat. resting on a turtle. God is real.
LtShed
I gave up and I wasn't even half done! But I'm pretty sure I have cancer now
Ferrumkit
By Allah I would hit this person with my shoe.
potatotheloaf
And I'd pray God bless you for it.
Ferrumkit
conspiracy theory in a nutshell:
potatotheloaf
Ohhhhhhkay now I get it!
thewildmiracle
I didn't read it all either lol
HowLongCanMyUsernameBeOnThisSiteSrslyWTFIsThis
I did - wish i didnt though. Im now on the hospital, diagnosed with 5 diffrent types of cancer
GlowstickJedi
I'd have just responded 'K'
Superchief86
What? I read all that crazy shit! You owe it to us to read it too!
Soddo
Ask him to explain how a gps works.
mithiwithi
Prediction, assuming they even know enough about GPS: "how GPS *really* works is a secret" (possibly involving HAARP or some shit).
breadcan
TL:DR The moon landing is fake because the Sun is the only light source also the Moon doesn't reflect light it is a light source.
polymetricr
Funny thing is those are different fucking objects. Of course there are multiple shadows there are multiple fucking objects
iamthatonefriend
The thing about the "multiple light sources" is that if there were multiple sources of light, there would be multiple shadows on each object
iamthatonefriend
And also that image of the "proof" is terrible, their lines don't even follow the actual directions of all the shadows. I love fighting with
mithiwithi
tl;dr Nature's Harmonic Simultaneous 4-Day Time Cube.
QuadrilateralEnix
The races cannot mix until the Time Cube is defeated.
SextusPompeiusMagnusPius
My god, I'd forgotten about the time cube's ineffable truth
mithiwithi
Oh, I dunno, I think that truth was pretty effed.
DrDherp
My favorite though is that NASA actually did lose the original footage of the first moon landing. Like okay crazies gotta +1 you on that one
mithiwithi
That was the Silence trying to edit out the "You should kill us on sight".
chokoloco
What?
DrDherp
Is it confusing or just surprising? We do not have the original footage from the first moon landing.
WeirdStealth
Honestly I don't find it that surprising, back then, there was lots of errors and physical movement of things that cause stuff to get lost.
chokoloco
Surprising. So the moon landing you can see on film, is a fake? But it happened anyway?
DrDherp
The only footage we have are from people who recorded the live broadcast.
DrDherp
But we have originals for all the other moon landings. Just not the first one.
BootyistheTruestFormofArt
He put in way too much effort to just be trolling. I wonder if he's stupid, or just retarded.
Slim617
Hes white american
inagoddadavida
Retarded, but he can use the Google!
1234canIhavealittlemore
A true believer. Not uncommon, you should listen to a devout christian explaining the bunk from the bible some some time.
MidiArbite
Do you have ANY idea how much effort people put into trolling? Have you SEEN the power of Weaponized Autism?
AHumbleMemeFarmer
Ooh- oh, boy, Rick, I-I don't think you're allowed to say that word, you know?
tex81024
The answer is yes
bukobg
http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/rwby/images/4/45/82733-why-not-both-meme-5LvD.jpeg
Walatalalaw
It sounds like he doesn't just believe man never went to space, he believes space doesn't even exist
PurplePeopleEater69
Probably in their early 60s and think that Chuck Missler is the second coming.
Velexis
If I actually have fun with someone, I will put that much effort into trolling. It's way more fun
Elzan
Definitely retarded. People that post this kind of dumb bullshit should be rounded up and executed so they can't pollute the human genepool.
potatotheloaf
Everyone's calling him a retard, and I agree, but don't we have any legitimate rebuttals? Like do we know a space engineer we can talk to?
potatotheloaf
Like the space rover: astronauts built it when they got there. Rocket trajectory: we have to follow the curvature of the earth (1/?)
potatotheloaf
For a while so the pull of the earth's gravity isn't so strong? That would make sense to me. Unless those pictures are fake. (2/?)
potatotheloaf
I also thought they shut down NASA in FL for a while. I agree with not accepting anything blindly but even he's lacking common sense.
potatotheloaf
Not to mention he doesn't spell "sovereign" right.
thegarlicawakens
Never go full retard.
Fezlol
I think his profile picture says it all
MegaDeuce
A glitch in the human intellect. A mutation of thought that was just plausible to propagate itself in his psyche. A dumb idea that stuck.
MegaDeuce
Look at the many intelligent, non-retarded people who believe in God. Being smart doesn't protect you from every retarded idea.
swaziwarrior
Think how weird it would be walking around every day being this person.
noutaja80
He wants to believe in that stuff so he does. Not necessarily stupid, but just living in his own world.
noutaja80
What I find hard to believe is the absolute passion by which he defends that world of his. Why is it so important to hold on to that..?
Elzan
A world of stupidity.
noutaja80
Well, yeah. One should at least be open to new ideas and willing to learn as opposed to blindly holding on to that one truth.
aduntoridas
"Too much effort to just be trolling." Oh man, you have no idea.
SaintLuciferVonAllah
There is an old Romanian proverb:do not argue with fools,for their mind is well rested.
DownWithBigParma
Sounds like paranoid schizophrenia to me. What sounds stupid to us justifies their delusions
QueenoftheRats
Don't mistake delusions for schizophrenia, which is characterized by a whole spectrum of possible symptoms, which MAY include delusions.
DownWithBigParma
Fair. My ex is schizophrenic (diagnosed), and this is a lot like what he would say. You're absolutely right though
GorganPizzaStash
You'd be surprised how far some will go to pretend to be retarded.
mrm1206
Or both?
ladysCartoonAnimal
BootyistheTruestFormofArt
Retardation is something out of your control, but stupid is a choice.
Odentay
nah, id say ignorance is a choice more than stupidity
Boben123
You shouldn't disrespect retards by comparing him to them. This person is so far into the deep end, we will never be able to reach them
mithiwithi
Quite. The mentally disabled have enough problems without people thinking they're like this dude.
EmporerDragon
So retarded that it's looped back in on itself, making him dedrater instead.
aleister94
that amount of effort is what makes me confident he's trolling
jedimoon
I teach astronomy. Every few years we get one of these, and they almost always flunk our "look at the pretty pictures" course.
jedimoon
Which is not to say we're very biased against them. I once had to give an 'A' to a well-written essay on fake moon landings, gross.
jedimoon
I invited her to meet in my office later and we went over why it was wrong and I think she came out convinced.
scnottaken
Parents probably failed her
88dahl
This is some good humanship right here
Dani3113
How can someone not understand how the atmosphere works? He acts like he doesn't believe space exists...??
jedimoon
He doesn't. See the reference to a solid dome firmament in the Bermuda Triangle meme.
CowboyZ
He probably doesn't. There are people who believe that we live inside a sealed done and the sky/sun/moon/stars is a massive LED display.
Mindshard
I've worked with levels of crazy you wouldn't believe. These people actually exist.
scnottaken
Story time!
Mindshard
One of his was that Jews did the holocaust against Germans but convinced everyone they were the victims 1/?
IcyLucario
I worry screwing with people to this extent might actually spark some idiots to believe him.
ChrisTallant
Sadly I know someone like this. I just stay quiet. You can't bring yourself down to dumbass level, they'll beat you with experience.
Koshunae
My experience with them leads me to asking "are you fucking stupid?" And walking away before they can answer.
ChrisTallant
Heh, because you know they'll answer in some dumbass riddle about conspiracy for public schools.
Codered97
It's like playing chess with a pigeon, it's going to shit all over the board and then dance like it's won.
trippintherift
Ugh ikr, never playing with that ostrich again either.
SoftypantsMcHuggable
Oh my God, this actually made me laugh out loud. I'm going to use this in my daily life now. Thanks.
Lionskull
but my instincts as an engineer are screaming otherwise.
potatotheloaf
So can you offer explanations to his arguments to shut him & people like him the hell up?
Lionskull
if they would listen, yes.
potatotheloaf
Landed? Why does the module look like paper?
potatotheloaf
Solid point. Sigh. I was also curious for myself. Do the rockets really arc like that? Did the astronauts have to build the rover when they
BlackThornDalinar
Met a real life anti vaxxer. I thought they were a myth. They refuse to listen to any reason or evidence. It boggles the mind
ChrisTallant
I haven't met any antivaxxers in real life, but I also have a friend whose daughter died because she had CP and couldn't be vaccinated.
resinmir
Work in a pediatricians office and you'll see em. His favorite line to mothers not wanting the meningitis vaccine was "I've seen 3 cases 1/2
resinmir
2/2 of meningitis in my life. All three of them died tragic deaths that were completely preventable."
BlackThornDalinar
It's infuriating that someone elses pig headed arrogance can cause so much pain
potatotheloaf
God.