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Dec 14, 2017 8:23 AM
swedishbutthurtguy
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xSocksMan
vinylspear
yvan eht nioj
FullSpeedAhead
Just remember, poison spreads.
joyouspopsical
Or as a Canadian.
Athenawins
I like men now
TheCarolingian
effigyoma
@OP -- this image is a fast track to the FP if you use it right; I know, I did it for the Zombie event. Welcome to the club!
Janusha
Oh... Are we laughing at Europe for having strong laws and protection against corporate oppression now ??
alexthepatient
an European? "an"? it's "a European"
mds308
Sorry but AN doesn't work here.
BlumpkinDangle
Real talk here guys. Can we all pitch to start a new ISP provider? I can pitch a few bucks more than what I payed Comcast. Let's orginize.
FizzleCracks
Thanks for the foreign interference in our affairs! /s
DubaiShort
XplodingRibcage
As a European I don't give a shit ...If America wants to go around killing all their golden egg laying geese it's up to them...
abacab87
It's kind of like praying.
K4lax
Same feeling from South America here
Firetowerdude
Better than what many of our politicians are doing.
KingOfTheDots
So what happened with vote, can someone update me?
NoYouStupid
Well, thanks for trying but they just voted and got what they wanted????
KaptenN
Well, I even went and wrote a comment on the FCC site. I recently got a mail asking me to confirm that I wrote it.
TheGreyKnightsBANNED
AnotherVote
ThePedro8161
https://imgur.com/uc03HNk
zooks
Same effect as all the shit they’re doing tbh
KlaatuVaradaNicto
This is unfortunately how it feels to be in America right now too. The FCC didn't listen to the 30+ million citizens on its own website.
Mysociallifisimgur
Make America Great Britain Again
ItsUncleSam
No
Garouleloup
I knew you'd come around -The Queen
ArvisJaggamar
Read this in Claire Foy's voice
cj89898
I am okay with this. At this point our Freedom is... no longer free.
walruspower
Freedom Never Is! Thats why you should cherish it.
FrozenGif
You do realize the UK has freedom too right
KeepYourDickInAVice
As a Britt it's going downhill at an alarming rate.
BlackwitchWizard
lol
demobytom
Is the net neutrality gone in US already, or is it still being voted on? I get conflicting reports..
ThrowMamaFromTheTrain
We never really had true net neutrality in the first place.
LoopsAhoy
They're voting on it today, but everything is pretty much in place for it to go through.
demobytom
go through as "neutrality saved" or "neutrality ruined"?
TheGhostMinx
Ruined. Because fuck us, right?
demobytom
:(
MaelstromforSale
Truly a sad day.
ladymihaelatargaryen
Why?
MaelstromforSale
Cause Net Neutrality gets abolished?
ladymihaelatargaryen
But why are you so against laws on the internet ?
TKRBrownstone
When your ISP can block Netflix just cause they fucking feel like it, there's a problem.
ladymihaelatargaryen
They won't block your Netflix,they will block if you on pirate bay or sites for pedophilia or human traficking
MaelstromforSale
I am not really here to discuss politics.
ladymihaelatargaryen
That's what ppl always say when I ask them why they are against net laws
Mumalot
*goes to imgur for most of his News nowadays*....... did NN stay or get repealed?
thiccvote
Were still voting
DoIReallyHaveToDoThis
Vote is today. Spoiler: It gets repealed.
aclarko
Vote is happening today, but I would say there's a 0% chance of it staying considering how corrupt our government is nowadays.
TheOfficeAssistant
When exactly is the vote taking place? (Also, please use a time zone we understand).
aclarko
Just read 10:30 am EST
TheOfficeAssistant
So... in 1,5 hours?
aclarko
Yeah
BillogUncle
I read a statistic from LadBible (not reliable I know) saying 76% of people want NN. I thought it'd be way more one sided than that
LasciviousHedgehog
Mixture of misinformation, misunderstanding and lots of bots.
beergolem
The put "freedom" in the suggestion to remove net neutrality and then sold it as anti-left, which gives gives you 30% support on average.
TittiesMcgeeDaTurd
Washington post says 83%, 75% of repubs
AndrewPChapman
Wasn’t it Rush Limbaugh who did a rant about how NN meant that, for every right-wing site, there had to be a left-wing one?
sentientseven
I'm guessing the rest are people brainwashed into thinking a net neutrality law is "government interference"
BishlamekGurpgork
A lot of surveys have been biased, through no fault of their own. An analysis of language patterns in the FCC’s comment period indicated
BishlamekGurpgork
That of the authentically human comments, 99.1 percent were likely to be against repealing NN.
marsgoose
but it is govt' interference, we could also get NN without govt' interference but the current fight is between two sets of corporations
marsgoose
Us plebs will just have to deal with whatever side FCC picks
Ireadhentaifortheart
https://youtu.be/6UwA55jl5Do like adverts such as this?
SirPlatinum
Of course the comments are disabled
Ireadhentaifortheart
Yeah i noticed that too haha, they knew their bs would get destroyed 100x over
haveanothergif
So are likes/dislikes and the channel discussion.
only90skidswillgetthis
I mean it kind of is by definition. Doesn't mean it's a bad thing
forelle
So are all forms of anti-monopoly laws, that prevent mafia-style market strategies.
only90skidswillgetthis
Yeah so are minimum wage laws, anti child labor laws, et cetera. That was my point
ThrowMamaFromTheTrain
Yeah maybe we should try enforcing those
nanonator
The thing is that the Title II rules actually gave a shield against anti-trust laws, because the rules assume a natural monopoly scenario.
HugeFootJob
Looking at how quiet it is at these last few days: they're fucked
WhenEmusAttack
How did the Internet exist before 2015?
twee3oh3
Yeah. We are so effing screwed. Which is what happens when your politicians sell out to businesses and billionaires.
fign37
They've resigned to the idea that they will be Verizon bitches at least for the next four years.
TraitorousTrump3
We were fucked since 11/8/16.
ArcTrooper501st
Who hired that guy in the first place?
eyeLied
definitely not before that
HipsterBurrito
When Pai basically said "we don't care about public opinion" I kinda just died on the inside :/
Lamplord
Yeah, when the whole "Lets delay it until Ajit is investigated" vote got shot down, i think we all kind of know whats coming.
Miztickow
Which is pretty stupid, since he admitted he's being payed off by Verizon (even if he pretended it's a joke).
Janusha
Oh... Are we laughing at Europe for having strong laws and protection against corporate oppression now ??
BlumpkinDangle
Real talk here guys. Can we all pitch to start a new ISP provider? I can pitch a few bucks more than what I payed Comcast. Let's orginize.
istealeverythingfromtumblr
There's a bill that was just introduced in congress to stop it, but the chances of it being passed before the vote are zilch
swedishbutthurtguy
they were fucked long before it even the vote date was set. we all know its gonna go through and then the rest of the world will follow
RPCd
The EU blocked already some attempts, they are prepared.
RicFIair
*Laughs in Swiss-German* - not here it won't ;)
HeavenOrHellLetsRock
The world cares about the US because its a historic disaster waiting to happen, not to get ideas.
tonetta777
'and the rest of the world will follow' oh honey, US isn't the center of the world, the rest of the world has had net neutrality for years
NuclearBuddha
But not the US hosted sites and services that'll either prove gouge out relocate, either way raising prices to cover expenses.
BritishBatman
Nah, you're gonna be setting an example of just how fucking terrible it is and the rest of the world isn't gonna go for it.
Janusha
The rest of the world are very strongly opposed to corporate oppression. ONLY in the US is that shit tolerated.
Janusha
Haha americans always think the world does what USA does... We have strong laws against corporate oppression in Europe. Its not an issue.
troyandabedpostoniiiiimgur
Outside of the US most companies have enough competing companies that it shouldn't happen
TheBitchessOfScience
We never copied your ridiculous healthcare and education systems, so I'm hoping we'll keep this trend going
killernerd
we can hope that not having a monopoly (aka: competition) will at least keep it in check.
pancrazio
TBH for the rest of the world this is the best chance to take internet leadership out from US hands.
PreciousPotato
Nah, I don't think so. The countries who already have a boner for censorship would now have an legitimate excuse to keep doing it without /1
PreciousPotato
looking like the baddies, but in the end, it just looks as if the US becomes less and less relevant on the world stage. Like the Russians-/2
PreciousPotato
huge country and military, but not really the kind of politics that others would want to emulate.
ytreqw
Source? From what I understand the US influence over the global geopolitical stage is growing, not shrinking, esp. in Asian territories
Lagtim3
Hey, you never know, maybe the corporations won't go overboard and we'll get limited regulation at reasonable--
Lagtim3
--PGFFFFAHAHAHAAH yeah, sorry, I couldn't finish that sentence. We're all fucked.
IamNOTatomato12
Until someone shoots them up.
MixmasterX28
Gg no re
MisterBrent
Lets hope Ol' Musky can help.
MrRandom314159
We existed before, we can exist after. And we can push it forward again.
ApparentlyDaAsianIsTakenByOtherAsiansThisIsSad
Nah there’s one one good corporation... pornhub. They start their own nation and half of the US would move
Tikari
The male half? ))))))))
Flames99Fuse
I'd gladly become a pornhubian if it meant I keep NN. Hail the dick flag!
dokpsy
Well at least one arm/hand will. Possibly both.
ThirstyCalifornian
At the end of the day, they’re a profit-seeking body. They’ll fuck you over to make money just like any other corporation would.
SchrodingersSchrodinger
You do realize that a significant portion rest of the world limits corporations much more than the US does right?
bosstonez
Shamelessly aggressive telecom corps in Canada are already making moves to abolish net neutrality. What happens in the US really does-
bosstonez
set an example for the rest of the world.
Janusha
Oh what a croc of old american bullshit. NOBODY looks to america as the great example today. Not since 1955. Get with the correct century.
SourmanTheWise
The EU understands the difference between regulations and full blown communism, so the scare tactics won't work here.
WiFiChaser
They better not pull this shit in the Netherlands, or I'm going to send a very angry letter to the government.
Terminology
They won't. EU law enshrined net neutrality. It's not going anywhere in the Netherlands.
Meemmmeeessss
BREEK HET KARTEL
Meemmmeeessss
HIDDEMA! PAK DE KARTELSCHAAR
chickeninthebushbush
Als er één gladjakker is die ik niet vertrouw met dit soort issues dan is het wel baudet
Meemmmeeessss
Mooie argumentum ad hominem
uberleet
gesundheit
FabulousFire
Nah the rest of the world won't follow suit. Us in the EU already got laws that guarantee our Net Neutrality.
Janusha
Haha exactly. While americans believe were quiet about it in Europe because we dont give a fuck. The problem is already solved over here !!
nanonator
Here's the problem though. American web services (like Netflix) will raise their prices worldwide in order to avoid throttling in the US.
NuclearBuddha
This or relocation, seriously people seem to picture the internet as some magical floating cloud...
ladymihaelatargaryen
But we have some laws already on the internet ,while they mostly don't
Terminology
Telecoms lawyer here. There's plenty of other countries with (often better) laws on the internet than the US.
ladymihaelatargaryen
Telekom client And a software engineer for Ea games here
Janusha
And by "plenty" you obviously mean every single civilized country. Its like healthcare only for the internet.
TomZarekVP
Putting Net neutrality into law should be part of the Democratic playbook. It's a no brainer. Bluewave 2018
Janusha
Because the EU has LONG TIME AGO decided our net neutrality is a human rights and therefore is protected. Its rock solid. A non-issue.
blackguard89
The US is fucked royally. Other countries have rules against companies like that. Also US may be losing tons of businesses because of this
TheMerryScandinavian
Rest of the world isn't as mad as you folks
mearas
I don't think europe will jump the train as fast as you think, when sweden jumped the gun EU got mad.
madmatt2024
I think a lot of people are overreacting. The fact is pre-2015 we didn't have net neutrality and not much has changed since it was 1/?
madmatt2024
enacted. Also, congress can make laws that overrule the FCC and Mr. Pai's term will eventually end, two things that could bring back NN. 2/2
Jacklebox
Why you gotta be so negative man, the fact that your saying the rest of the world will follow is so far from the truth.
KillingTlme
The rest of the world will not follow suit. America is no longer the leader of anything. We are like that old crazy Aunt now.
justvenomcake
Hr4585. There is hope.
ChuckWeiss
After the shit show that was this last election, in hoping there'll be a heavy regime change over the next few years. It will be very 1/
ChuckWeiss
Important to keep the concepts of net neutrality alive in the political discussion until then. 2/2
SaidTheSloth
Canada is already following suit. I live in the US and I'm pretty upset about this.
VoltageXL1
Nah ita not. Bell proposed the same thing but gov said fuck that
Gunthex
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/05/04/spacex-internet-satellites-elon-musk.html MUSK, save us!
Terminology
Bullshit. Telecoms lawyer here. The US hasn't been the leader in digital regulation for years. Other countries have strong NN protection.
repurposedschleem
Now you know how people who voted remain in the UK feel
jmbmpt
Britains feel things?
Selerox
Trying desperately not to think about the nightmare we're currently facing.
Idsertian
Ugh, don't fuckin' remind me.
AgolfHiller
That wasn't pushed through by an organization who is put for money though. It was decided by a vote by people who didn't really do any
Paranoimia
Researched, voted Leave, would do so again.
AgolfHiller
I don't get why this is downvoted. If this is his decision then good for him
Paranoimia
Dissenting voices must be silenced!
AgolfHiller
Research on the topic
staygoldenagain
Depressingly accurate
DEFINITELYnotSauron
Mostly racist fools who thought us leaving the EU would mean all people not from the UK would be made to instantly leave.
AgolfHiller
Or was the the labelling idiots who say stupid shit like this without being biased
joshuaiwjew
I really don't think anyone thought that. That is a massive exaggeration.
BrassXD
Boyo Nigel obviously thought it was a good gig to push.
DEFINITELYnotSauron
I live in cornwall, most of the people here seemed to think that was the case
chazo
Stop remoaning.
TheBritfag
"Mostly racist fools" There it is. The labelling.
fooaccount30
The net neutrality is at risk indirectly because Trump is in the office, and people voted him. So you are only partially right
AgolfHiller
It was coming either way. Trump because he's a gaint douche and Hillary because the Clinton foundation is in the pockets of the ISP's
fooaccount30
It's still indirectly because of the people than you came up with only those two horrible options
AgolfHiller
"The net neutrality is at risk indirectly because Trump is in the office" -you. So i said no matter who people voted for you were fucked
BakaPhoenix
Well you people voted for Trump...
Kyman201
Fuck you. Trump LOST the popular vote. He won on a goddamn fucking technicality.
AgolfHiller
I'm not even American
LasciviousHedgehog
Was there any announcement about Russian Twitter farms influencing the referendum?
Binerexis
No, us Brits are able to make poor decisions without Russian intervention
repurposedschleem
Oh yeah sure, but it got buried by royal weddings and shit
AgolfHiller
Isn't that something being said with every major thing now?
Paoloc0mments
Yes it was, actually multiple organisations in what was almost a conspiracy to mislead voters for the benefit of the few. Familiar?
MatrimBloodyCauthon
Ow. That hurt to read :(
TheGenuineArticle
Why did every major bank and multinational corporation support and fund remaining, if not for their own benefit?
kirmes
If voters are this stupid they shouldn't be allowed to vote in the first place. It is not only a right but along with this comes duties!
Afghaniscran
I'm from the UK (voted remain) and don't follow it well. But didnt ukip throw out a load of bullshit to get people to vote leave and once1/2
Terminology
There's growing evidence of companies like Cambridge Analytics using social media and the internet to manipulate voters toward Brexit.
Afghaniscran
The vote was done repealed all the bullshit saying "we didn't mean it that way"
Idsertian
You are exactly right.
repurposedschleem
Pretty much, hard brexit and leaving the single market was something only the "extremists" wanted
Corrosion
Yes. Pretty much entirely lies. Nigel Farage has said he'll still claim his MEP pension too. Wanker.
DogenutsDoughnuts
The main scandal was 'leaving the eu will free up £20 million for the NHS'. This was supported by the mayor of London and posters/flyers 1/2