Jul 7, 2016 4:30 AM
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ballq
I am afraid of ghost...busters remakes
DrRad
v
jackoffalltraides
I think it'll be funny, but it's not like anyone's TRYING to replace the original. It's just a reimagining
Getoverture
Unwatchable "she-make."
ian9outof10
Oh you've seen it have you?
GuestLogin
Something makes me think they changed the cast to females just to appease some gender equality thing, and I think thats utter bullshit.
Im all for gender equality. Age, race, religion, sex etc all equal. Just dont change a classic to pander to it
whorecheese
I'm excited about this movie. I'm a huge fan of all the comedians in it and remakes happen all the time.
Dunes8
The Charleton Heston Ben Hur has had rmakes of it and its a remake.
Same. I was alive for the first Ghostbusters, consider it one of my favourite 10 films. Still excited for this one.
Beard973
Wait, someone is trying to convince me differently?
Ultimaniac
And no matter what any SJW tells you, you're not a bigot/mysogynist/sexist if you hate it.
Well you might be. I'm sure there will be a wide variety of reasons people hate it, some of them will basically be sexism
rabidbabyseal
This movie will be garbage.the simple hypocritical nature force feeding stereotypes makes it impossible for ration person to take it serious
Desmondia
"Ration person to take it serious"
zombie8u2
I just watched the original. Uncanny!
inaplasticcup
I watched it 2 days back, for the first time in about 20 years. BRILLIANT.
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
who caaaares
SuperOKNumberTwo
Wow thats some terrible cosplay on the top.
LazyPolarBear
First one is just Bridemaids with proton packs
stevedabull
This movie can never be as bad as the GIJoe abortions from a few years ago. Chill out and pirate it.
PhaserRave
At first I thought the top image was just cosplay.
BeerIsBetterThanSunshine
Like most new movies, I would pirate it before I spent any money to see it.
Eclaircissement
Having to have an opinion on whether a fantasy group of SNL alums fighting ghosts should be all Male or all Female is hilarious. I love it!
Lulabel73
What I'm annoyed at mostly it's a reboot. Why not some sort of sequel?!
How is it a reboot? The trailer says 30 years later, it doesn't pretend the other films didn't happen.
Well in all honesty I haven't viewed the trailer. It's what I've heard in interviews and such.
spidersaystofly
It is a reboot. Google is your friend. They apologized for the 30 years ago trailer thing saying it was misleading
ladybird2223
That trailer was playing at nostalgia and talking about when the 1st movie came out not the events of the movie. It is 100% a reboot.
TestAccount321
I honestly don't have a problem with an all-female cast. My problem is that it's going to be another shitty remake.
nagemretrac
Why is it a competition? Can't we appreciate both for their merits?
Yes
bntli
Why does it have to be a competition? Can't the new one just suck on its own?
mastamage
Have you seen the trailer even? Bad joke bad timing, i expect that for the entire movie
Chewthestitches
Crisp Rat is right. My thoughts exactly.
Dwarn44
Ghostbusters wasnt even that great, bill murry is just a god among actors.
TimeAndMemeLordOfGallifrey
what is there appreciate winston an upstanding well spoken everyman or Patty a slang talking standard black movie stereotype force fed to us
howcaniinternetgoodificantevenfitinsidethecomputer
Are they really gonna make you sit and watch it, pry your eyes open like A Clockwork Orange?
naa I just have to endure the shit show media buys for the next month. you are the person who wont get those two hours back in your life.
On the one hand, her use of ebonics does reference that stereotype, but her actions through the trailer are less than stereotypical. (1/2)
On the other hand, I've spent more than two hours I can't get back listening to wining children like yourself and it's getting really old.
CondescendingCunt
Implying that the new one has any merits...
Well it does have 3 leads that are current or former SNL cast members. Just saying.
Yeah, and SNL has been trash for well over a decade.
cobybocklot
So basically this movie is nothing but a cash grab. Going to go see civil war instead because I finally have time to do so
Yeah because endless superhero movies where nothing actually happens are, in no way, a cash grab. Also, it's called the "movie business".
Protean2648
Fuck off, Civil War is good, crashgrab or not
volatiley
Yes, "real".
FuckingStupidBitches
tee hee
Faloopsinarb
oh good this again
ShreddinTheGnar
The ghostbusters franchise:
lizardbones
well, Lego Ghost Busters was pretty good, until they started making the new film into sets, and even put the characters into the game
THEREDHO0D
Hollywood: No your not get up
ChuckKarma
When Cameron was in Egypt's land...let my Cameron gooo.
ineptusMechanicus
Oh my this is so important.
johndeyeti
I love how people seem to forget that it's not a gender flip. It's a retelling. In a way they're the real ghost busters too. Just 2016 ones
It's more of a reboot. Different plot with familiar beats.
RaisinZetaJones
It's a gender flip, which isn't progressive at all. "Women can do everything men can... 30 years later!" is awful.
SomeGuyYourMomKnows
Totally a gender flip for the sake of pandering to the public. if it was a retelling they could have just added 1-2 women and been good.
ChloePrice
You know, they could've avoided a lot of shit if they had just made a sort of new recruits in 2016 Ghostbuster movie instead of a reboot.
ChefObvious
I've been saying this since Day One.
grim5000
and, you know, had good jokes.
spaghettiThunderbolt
"*stereotypical black comment followed by deep laughter*" isn't absolutely hilarious to you?
not really
That's what this is, the trailer clearly mentions that this is 30 years after the last group
They through that in for nostalgia but even the actors say it is a reboot.
30 yrs since the original movie was made.
But everytime this is spoken about articles and people and even ads have said it's a reboot. I'm confused. :S Even Wikipedia says reboot.
Yep, it has even been mention the original Ghostbusters make cameos as different characters
It is definitely a reboot. That trailor just threw it in for nostalgia. Even Melissa McCarthy was confused about why it said that.
supercalafragilisticexpialadocious
They are also talking about doing an all girls Oceans 11. Not that I'm a fan. It's just a really lazy way to go about creating new content.
All male version of Sex and the City. Let's fucking do it!
elbart
Clooney's Ocean's 11 wasn't exactly new either.
Clooney's Ocean's 11 was very different from Sinatra's. Doing a remake is tricky: Not just in name only, not shot-for-shot.
Well yeah no shit. Hollywood remakes stuff all the damn time. It's no more lazy now than before just because they're switching genders up
Vectorman2
I want to know why we cant have an all girl Magic Mike
WhiteEddieMurphy
They did. It was called "Dancing at the Blue Iguana" or "Striptease". Whichever.
Lazier than constantly rebooting Spider-man and Batman?
femasculata
that's what i'm saying. those movies are mostly lazy and derivative but i don't see this giant swell of hate and rage against them
You would if they made spider-man a woman for one of them.
Longtimewatcherfirsttimewritingblahblahblahblah
What is it called when you take parts and give them to someone based on gender, if it was white actors it is whitewashing, so...Cuntwashing?
For anyone offended by the word, it is a word get over it. For anyone offended by my calling women cunts, I'm not it is just those who take1
Using established roles like this is a joke that does not represent women better it just uses feminism for profiteering.3
A job that they only got because they have a vagina. Don't get me wrong, women need to be better represented in cinema but doing that by 2
It's all lazy. Why do they keep making sequels
Money! Simples. Unfortunate that people just go watch anyway and don't vote with they're wallets.
fearandloathebananas
At the same time as Oceans 11 already was a remake from an old rat pack movie. A remake of a remake, fucking hell.
zoomtothemoon
That's stupid. And I'm a woman so I'm 'allowed' to say that; I hate gender switching established characters.
I'm a lady and I agree. I hate this big push for it in Doctor Who as well to change the main character into a chick when 50+ years a dude.
I feel like it would be a death knell for the show, it would be unbelievably disappointing.
kirmokum
depends how it's done.
It doesn't always have to be a cheap gimmick like GB and O11. I think the newer Battlestar Galactica series did it well, for example.
ilovemypiratedog
Unless its cosplay!
I agree with you there. ;)
PuellaSilentii
I also hate it. I don't mind if a character or two get changed to different gender or race, but all of them, HELL NO!
Well good for you. I think it's interesting
Different strokes for different folks.
Originally said by sir Ronald Strokes of Cambridge. He was a famous cat breeder with an unorthodox attitude too petting.
pogon
I am reserving judgement until I see it.
CatsIsTheAnswer
That's so immature of you
MisterWiggler37
Watch a reviewer you trust, or get a friend's opinion of it. If you watch it, they get your money even if you decide it's terrible.
TheBearsMaiden
Finally a sensible perosn
StarrrryNight
The trailer I saw on YouTube looked shit but the trailer I saw when I went to the cinema the other day actually looked pretty good.
illprobablyjustgetbanned
Its just a really long SNL skit.
sayhitoyamotherforme
I'm in the minority but I always found the first one to be just pretty good. That said, this new one looks pretty bad.
IAmThePermabannedAccountOfMyNameIsMrTorgue
I found them to be not great at all
CrabWallet
Same here! I was really disappointed when I ate human shit and it turned out to taste as bad as it looked, but at least I reserved judgment.
No, judge it by its cover like you're supposed to
yes! this is imgur, after all!
ShutupMcClaneImgoodatthis
Yeah!!!! Rabble Rabble Rabble!!!
LitteralyHitler
Same. I don't get why people do that. Could be a great movie.
TheSkeletonWar
From what i've read in comments: "How dare they change an all male cast to an all female cast, it's not right and I hate it"
spareseatonmyface
That's not it. All the trailers and footage so far look bad and unfunny. But hopefully it isn't a good representation.
functionallyinsane
the problem is that if it is shit i don't want to give my money to it, you can see how that can make this an issue.
[deleted]
That's the issue it's Schrodinger's movie it is both good and bad untill I can form my own opinion. and I DO want to form my own opinion.
cumbustable
for the love of god don't pay money to see it. if you do, they win.
I know someone involved in the production (not one of the actors). I don't mind seeing her win.
God forbid anyone exchange money for a couple of hours entertainment.
there are way better movies to spend money on then a soulless cash-grab.
I feel like you somehow think Hollywood is all about the "art". It isn't, it's about making money.
no shit sherlock. you didn't break any new ground with that statement. but there is such thing as not rewarding bad business practices
aleister94
I'm not because I don't want a remake at all I want a sequel
LLCoolBeans
It is a sequel. It's specifically being billed as such, just without any of the same characters.
Nope. It's an AU.
Really? That's the opposite of what I'd been told.
I blame Sony's marketing. Original cast is returning as different characters.
It's not a sequel, in it's universe the old one never existed.
I'd been told different, but I could be wrong
Well maybe, but I've been listening to Collider videos, and they have been saying it's a reboot.
Melissa McCarthy herself said it was a reboot and was confused why the first trailer played it like a sequel.
You were NEVER going to get that. Ask Bill Murray why he consistently refused to make GB3
Dan Aykroyd considers the game to be Ghostbusters 3.
A lot of people agree. But Murray has CONSISTENTLY refused to make more, and it's a good franchise so why not carry on with new people.
It could have have new characters I just want it to continue the universe of ghost busters instead of retelling it
Talonotw
Fun fact. There has been a review embargo placed on the movie until the day of its release. Just like Fan4stic. The only people allowed 1/2
davesrandomstuff
Are the public going to be fooled though? People have been complaining for months about how shit it looks. I bet it will do well due to..(1)
People going in expecting it to be garbage, wanting to confirm it. But a ticket sale is a ticket sale. (2)
Bbbrrr000ccckkk1
Honestly my real life friends and family are totally psyched about it and are fans of the actors in their other projects. BK1/2
Imgur is the only place Where I see people talking shit about it. BK2/2
2. Those are termed: whores.
KillProgressivesFTW
oh noes, you shamed those without integrity. The whore-or of it!
yup.. their opinions handed to them and paid to write them.
nickknack7
Seriously are there any REAL filmmakers out there?]
TheStewart
Independent films shown in film festivals can be good. They might not be too, but such is life.
Integrity is incompatible with hollyqueerwood
This new word has much power.
TIL
Dsmizz
That may be the single worst attempt at a portmanteau I've ever seen.
The2020ElectionWasStolen
just stay with hollyweird
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
Kevin Smith. He only makes $5 million movies, that no one else ever would, because he'll always make at least that back, and is having fun.
He tried the Hollywood directing thing and it made him quit movies, until he decided fuck that, I'll make cheap movies.
This is one of many reasons I totally respect Kevin Smith. I don't always like his movies (esp Jersey Girl) but I'll always pay money to see
Fun facts should be fun.
And yet everyone on the Internet seems to have seen it, because they all have a verdict to deliver on it.
I've never tasted shit, but I'm sure it'd taste bad, and won't be tasting it to confirm. Here, the trailer and promotional material stinks.
By far the best response to this line of thought.
Yes, how dare I suggest anyone go and see the movie rather than base an opinion on around 5 minutes maximum of footage.
Yeah, plenty of people won't be seeing the movie, hasn't stopped them from banging on about it constantly though.
I just don't get any of the hoopla about it on either side. If people want to see a fantastic all-female horror movie, buy a copy of the 1
Descent. If people on the other side want to attack feminism, there's probably more serious targets out there than a dumb comedy reboot 2
either way, I'm tired of hearing about it, and hope it bombs because I hope all shitty reboots bomb. 3
Well, they're going to keep making Batman, Spider-man and The Avengers movies until the end of time. I fail to see how this is worse.
throwaway20160708
That's objectively not true. I literally just got back from the press screener. It has an embargo until Sunday which is super normal.
delpharseven
This is called the Hollywood Strategy and they use it when they know the movie will suck. Embargo reviews, hype the hell out of it, hope 1/
enough people go see it in the first few days to recoup costs before reviews and word of mouth crater sales. 2/2
TheRealFireFrenzy
In video games you sometimes get POST launch embargoes
The only time I've ever seen the embargo being used for a successful movie was to curb spoilers for The Force Awakens.
Andalite
Given the number of "likes" on YouTube trailers, I'd say word of mouth already cratered the sales. And I put likes in quotations bc the 1/2
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
Maybe that's why they need to embargo reviews? I've never seen a film being hated on so much before it's even released.
liesuponlies
Happens a lot when people remake a "classic" because people get sentimental about the original.
last time I looked up the trailers, the dislikes outweighed the likes
currently sittinng at 261k likes to 916k dislikes.
And sexism will be blamed; cash in on the over-the-counter culture of people who will enjoy the movie out of ideology, like Atlas Shrugged.
I actually think it looks like it might be funny. Not the original, but maybe worth watching.
This is the boat I am in. I'm hoping its good but the review embargo seems really fishy.
It looks like a late-night Netflix surrender watch. Too bad, because Feig & McCarthy's Spy was a great send-up & deconstruction.
Mycologics
This is also very common with gaming reviews. Not just the big games too. Source: I'm an editor for a game website
Graham3435
Anyone with half a brain knows video games reviews are all untrustworthy. They haven't been honest since the 90s
You see the thing with MOST reviews is, is that they are an objective opinion still. Yes there will always be sites (ign gamespot) that will
Get paid or be dishonest about the game. But the smaller ones like us are very genuine as there's little to no money in it for us
yah, I tend to trust the smaller reviewers, and the user review that look like something i'd write. if it's something i'd write, it's prob
I still don't trust smaller reviewers. Tucking tail and giving good reviews to pander is still a valid concern for me. I use lets plays
MattDark86
How often to the games with review embargos turn out to be really good, or not full of bugs?
That's different with each game.the bigger games tend to have more bugs but I try to look around them at first. Unless the game is unplayabl
Maiyannah
I've seen a lot of embargoed games that are good. I have never ever seen an embargoed game without a lotta day 1 bugs.
SweetJackal
Embargoes aren't bad by design, rather they are good. A review embargo is supposed to prevent the review from being rushed out 1/4
trading accuracy for being first off the press. Setting a date that no review can be released before gives time for a quality review 2/4
which gives the game a fair shake and helps the creator, reviewer, and consumer. Problems arise 3/4
AmorphousPorpous
Hearts of Iron 4 was a big release in the strategy genre. Was pretty good even though it was embargoed
I've had indie games that had an embargo like firewatch. That games was fantastic. But because of the narrative driven core.
They wanted reviews to come out with the release as not to spoil.
LowFatBatman
Yo, work stories bruh
There's not much to tell though. It's not my main job. We don't get paid. But we write news, vlog, review. We are growing though.
By we, I mean the guys who write news after their day job. Like me. Our boss who is running the company pays himself through ads on our site
Basically press companies hired by gamedevelopers pay us to advertise. It does suck when our review isn't positive though but money is money
Yep. Got a friend working at a game review site. It's clear they only let reviewers who show a positive interest to the game to review them.
You have no idea how many times Ive not gotten press copies because our ethical policy basically reads "we aint gonna suck your cock"
Which might make you go: 'well duh' at first, but if you really think about it it's making all reviews super biased.
Good thing is the companies themselves dont have any power over us. I know I've always been honest but I'm not denying it doesn't happen.
to see it early are the ones who can be counted on to give good press no matter what. 2/2
Only thing worse would be the video game "post launch embargo" but this is fucking stupid
Pugsleyx
Well fuck them and that movie even further off.
ThatFellow
We had gamergate... moviegate soon?
Checkitoutausername
9.5/10 -IGN
wouderfullywhacky
"Horrible, unwatchable. Filled with terrible everything and should be avoided at all costs. 9.5/10 IGN recommended."
thegreatninjaman
"Too much Water"
Are you sure that's its just because of people prejudging the movie based on the gender of the actor
Then wouldn't some good reviews before release help alleviate those thoughts if they actually existed outside a tiny subset of the internet?
AskMeIfImFunAtParties
Look, i would be just as appalled with a remake if they cast larry the cable guy, tyler perry, adam sandler and kevin james, shit is shit.
Mobileuserwholikestoberandom
At first that's what I thought but no, the movie looks like it's gonna suck regardless of which gender stars in it
Upstartpotato
"I don't know if it's a lady thing or a race thing but I am mad as hell" is qoute from one of the trailers. in the trailer one of skinny...
jumped off a stage and crowed surfed while the heavy set black woman jumped off and they let her fall.
ohdeepthought
I think it's because she's much heavier to hold up than a skinny girl... But that's just me.
backstabbr1001
Have you seen the trailer? Fuck genders. A shit movie is a shit movie regardless of whether the actor has a vagina or a dick.
ballq
I am afraid of ghost...busters remakes
DrRad
jackoffalltraides
I think it'll be funny, but it's not like anyone's TRYING to replace the original. It's just a reimagining
Getoverture
Unwatchable "she-make."
ian9outof10
Oh you've seen it have you?
GuestLogin
Something makes me think they changed the cast to females just to appease some gender equality thing, and I think thats utter bullshit.
GuestLogin
Im all for gender equality. Age, race, religion, sex etc all equal. Just dont change a classic to pander to it
whorecheese
I'm excited about this movie. I'm a huge fan of all the comedians in it and remakes happen all the time.
Dunes8
The Charleton Heston Ben Hur has had rmakes of it and its a remake.
ian9outof10
Same. I was alive for the first Ghostbusters, consider it one of my favourite 10 films. Still excited for this one.
Beard973
Wait, someone is trying to convince me differently?
Ultimaniac
And no matter what any SJW tells you, you're not a bigot/mysogynist/sexist if you hate it.
ian9outof10
Well you might be. I'm sure there will be a wide variety of reasons people hate it, some of them will basically be sexism
rabidbabyseal
This movie will be garbage.the simple hypocritical nature force feeding stereotypes makes it impossible for ration person to take it serious
Desmondia
"Ration person to take it serious"
zombie8u2
I just watched the original. Uncanny!
inaplasticcup
I watched it 2 days back, for the first time in about 20 years. BRILLIANT.
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
who caaaares
SuperOKNumberTwo
Wow thats some terrible cosplay on the top.
LazyPolarBear
First one is just Bridemaids with proton packs
stevedabull
This movie can never be as bad as the GIJoe abortions from a few years ago. Chill out and pirate it.
PhaserRave
At first I thought the top image was just cosplay.
BeerIsBetterThanSunshine
Like most new movies, I would pirate it before I spent any money to see it.
Eclaircissement
Having to have an opinion on whether a fantasy group of SNL alums fighting ghosts should be all Male or all Female is hilarious. I love it!
Lulabel73
What I'm annoyed at mostly it's a reboot. Why not some sort of sequel?!
ian9outof10
How is it a reboot? The trailer says 30 years later, it doesn't pretend the other films didn't happen.
Lulabel73
Well in all honesty I haven't viewed the trailer. It's what I've heard in interviews and such.
spidersaystofly
It is a reboot. Google is your friend. They apologized for the 30 years ago trailer thing saying it was misleading
ladybird2223
That trailer was playing at nostalgia and talking about when the 1st movie came out not the events of the movie. It is 100% a reboot.
TestAccount321
I honestly don't have a problem with an all-female cast. My problem is that it's going to be another shitty remake.
nagemretrac
Why is it a competition? Can't we appreciate both for their merits?
ian9outof10
Yes
bntli
Why does it have to be a competition? Can't the new one just suck on its own?
mastamage
Have you seen the trailer even? Bad joke bad timing, i expect that for the entire movie
justsomeblandguy
Chewthestitches
Crisp Rat is right. My thoughts exactly.
Dwarn44
Ghostbusters wasnt even that great, bill murry is just a god among actors.
TimeAndMemeLordOfGallifrey
rabidbabyseal
what is there appreciate winston an upstanding well spoken everyman or Patty a slang talking standard black movie stereotype force fed to us
howcaniinternetgoodificantevenfitinsidethecomputer
Are they really gonna make you sit and watch it, pry your eyes open like A Clockwork Orange?
rabidbabyseal
naa I just have to endure the shit show media buys for the next month. you are the person who wont get those two hours back in your life.
howcaniinternetgoodificantevenfitinsidethecomputer
On the one hand, her use of ebonics does reference that stereotype, but her actions through the trailer are less than stereotypical. (1/2)
howcaniinternetgoodificantevenfitinsidethecomputer
On the other hand, I've spent more than two hours I can't get back listening to wining children like yourself and it's getting really old.
CondescendingCunt
Implying that the new one has any merits...
nagemretrac
Well it does have 3 leads that are current or former SNL cast members. Just saying.
CondescendingCunt
Yeah, and SNL has been trash for well over a decade.
cobybocklot
So basically this movie is nothing but a cash grab. Going to go see civil war instead because I finally have time to do so
ian9outof10
Yeah because endless superhero movies where nothing actually happens are, in no way, a cash grab. Also, it's called the "movie business".
Protean2648
Fuck off, Civil War is good, crashgrab or not
volatiley
Yes, "real".
FuckingStupidBitches
tee hee
Faloopsinarb
oh good this again
ShreddinTheGnar
lizardbones
well, Lego Ghost Busters was pretty good, until they started making the new film into sets, and even put the characters into the game
THEREDHO0D
Hollywood: No your not get up
ChuckKarma
When Cameron was in Egypt's land...let my Cameron gooo.
ineptusMechanicus
Oh my this is so important.
johndeyeti
I love how people seem to forget that it's not a gender flip. It's a retelling. In a way they're the real ghost busters too. Just 2016 ones
Dunes8
It's more of a reboot. Different plot with familiar beats.
RaisinZetaJones
It's a gender flip, which isn't progressive at all. "Women can do everything men can... 30 years later!" is awful.
SomeGuyYourMomKnows
Totally a gender flip for the sake of pandering to the public. if it was a retelling they could have just added 1-2 women and been good.
ChloePrice
You know, they could've avoided a lot of shit if they had just made a sort of new recruits in 2016 Ghostbuster movie instead of a reboot.
ChefObvious
I've been saying this since Day One.
grim5000
and, you know, had good jokes.
spaghettiThunderbolt
"*stereotypical black comment followed by deep laughter*" isn't absolutely hilarious to you?
grim5000
not really
ian9outof10
That's what this is, the trailer clearly mentions that this is 30 years after the last group
ladybird2223
They through that in for nostalgia but even the actors say it is a reboot.
Dunes8
30 yrs since the original movie was made.
ChloePrice
But everytime this is spoken about articles and people and even ads have said it's a reboot. I'm confused. :S Even Wikipedia says reboot.
Dunes8
Yep, it has even been mention the original Ghostbusters make cameos as different characters
ladybird2223
It is definitely a reboot. That trailor just threw it in for nostalgia. Even Melissa McCarthy was confused about why it said that.
supercalafragilisticexpialadocious
They are also talking about doing an all girls Oceans 11. Not that I'm a fan. It's just a really lazy way to go about creating new content.
Protean2648
All male version of Sex and the City. Let's fucking do it!
elbart
Clooney's Ocean's 11 wasn't exactly new either.
RaisinZetaJones
Clooney's Ocean's 11 was very different from Sinatra's. Doing a remake is tricky: Not just in name only, not shot-for-shot.
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
Well yeah no shit. Hollywood remakes stuff all the damn time. It's no more lazy now than before just because they're switching genders up
Vectorman2
I want to know why we cant have an all girl Magic Mike
WhiteEddieMurphy
They did. It was called "Dancing at the Blue Iguana" or "Striptease". Whichever.
ian9outof10
Lazier than constantly rebooting Spider-man and Batman?
femasculata
that's what i'm saying. those movies are mostly lazy and derivative but i don't see this giant swell of hate and rage against them
ian9outof10
You would if they made spider-man a woman for one of them.
Longtimewatcherfirsttimewritingblahblahblahblah
What is it called when you take parts and give them to someone based on gender, if it was white actors it is whitewashing, so...Cuntwashing?
Longtimewatcherfirsttimewritingblahblahblahblah
For anyone offended by the word, it is a word get over it. For anyone offended by my calling women cunts, I'm not it is just those who take1
Longtimewatcherfirsttimewritingblahblahblahblah
Using established roles like this is a joke that does not represent women better it just uses feminism for profiteering.3
Longtimewatcherfirsttimewritingblahblahblahblah
A job that they only got because they have a vagina. Don't get me wrong, women need to be better represented in cinema but doing that by 2
ineptusMechanicus
It's all lazy. Why do they keep making sequels
supercalafragilisticexpialadocious
Money! Simples. Unfortunate that people just go watch anyway and don't vote with they're wallets.
fearandloathebananas
At the same time as Oceans 11 already was a remake from an old rat pack movie. A remake of a remake, fucking hell.
zoomtothemoon
That's stupid. And I'm a woman so I'm 'allowed' to say that; I hate gender switching established characters.
ladybird2223
I'm a lady and I agree. I hate this big push for it in Doctor Who as well to change the main character into a chick when 50+ years a dude.
zoomtothemoon
I feel like it would be a death knell for the show, it would be unbelievably disappointing.
kirmokum
depends how it's done.
IWishIWereNotAllergicToCats
It doesn't always have to be a cheap gimmick like GB and O11. I think the newer Battlestar Galactica series did it well, for example.
ilovemypiratedog
Unless its cosplay!
zoomtothemoon
I agree with you there. ;)
PuellaSilentii
I also hate it. I don't mind if a character or two get changed to different gender or race, but all of them, HELL NO!
ineptusMechanicus
Well good for you. I think it's interesting
zoomtothemoon
Different strokes for different folks.
ineptusMechanicus
Originally said by sir Ronald Strokes of Cambridge. He was a famous cat breeder with an unorthodox attitude too petting.
pogon
I am reserving judgement until I see it.
CatsIsTheAnswer
That's so immature of you
MisterWiggler37
Watch a reviewer you trust, or get a friend's opinion of it. If you watch it, they get your money even if you decide it's terrible.
TheBearsMaiden
Finally a sensible perosn
StarrrryNight
The trailer I saw on YouTube looked shit but the trailer I saw when I went to the cinema the other day actually looked pretty good.
illprobablyjustgetbanned
Its just a really long SNL skit.
sayhitoyamotherforme
I'm in the minority but I always found the first one to be just pretty good. That said, this new one looks pretty bad.
IAmThePermabannedAccountOfMyNameIsMrTorgue
I found them to be not great at all
CrabWallet
Same here! I was really disappointed when I ate human shit and it turned out to taste as bad as it looked, but at least I reserved judgment.
volatiley
No, judge it by its cover like you're supposed to
inaplasticcup
yes! this is imgur, after all!
ShutupMcClaneImgoodatthis
Yeah!!!! Rabble Rabble Rabble!!!
LitteralyHitler
Same. I don't get why people do that. Could be a great movie.
TheSkeletonWar
From what i've read in comments: "How dare they change an all male cast to an all female cast, it's not right and I hate it"
spareseatonmyface
That's not it. All the trailers and footage so far look bad and unfunny. But hopefully it isn't a good representation.
functionallyinsane
the problem is that if it is shit i don't want to give my money to it, you can see how that can make this an issue.
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functionallyinsane
That's the issue it's Schrodinger's movie it is both good and bad untill I can form my own opinion. and I DO want to form my own opinion.
cumbustable
for the love of god don't pay money to see it. if you do, they win.
pogon
I know someone involved in the production (not one of the actors). I don't mind seeing her win.
ian9outof10
God forbid anyone exchange money for a couple of hours entertainment.
cumbustable
there are way better movies to spend money on then a soulless cash-grab.
ian9outof10
I feel like you somehow think Hollywood is all about the "art". It isn't, it's about making money.
cumbustable
no shit sherlock. you didn't break any new ground with that statement. but there is such thing as not rewarding bad business practices
aleister94
I'm not because I don't want a remake at all I want a sequel
LLCoolBeans
It is a sequel. It's specifically being billed as such, just without any of the same characters.
Dunes8
Nope. It's an AU.
LLCoolBeans
Really? That's the opposite of what I'd been told.
Dunes8
I blame Sony's marketing. Original cast is returning as different characters.
spareseatonmyface
It's not a sequel, in it's universe the old one never existed.
LLCoolBeans
I'd been told different, but I could be wrong
spareseatonmyface
Well maybe, but I've been listening to Collider videos, and they have been saying it's a reboot.
ladybird2223
Melissa McCarthy herself said it was a reboot and was confused why the first trailer played it like a sequel.
ian9outof10
You were NEVER going to get that. Ask Bill Murray why he consistently refused to make GB3
Dunes8
Dan Aykroyd considers the game to be Ghostbusters 3.
ian9outof10
A lot of people agree. But Murray has CONSISTENTLY refused to make more, and it's a good franchise so why not carry on with new people.
aleister94
It could have have new characters I just want it to continue the universe of ghost busters instead of retelling it
Talonotw
Fun fact. There has been a review embargo placed on the movie until the day of its release. Just like Fan4stic. The only people allowed 1/2
davesrandomstuff
Are the public going to be fooled though? People have been complaining for months about how shit it looks. I bet it will do well due to..(1)
davesrandomstuff
People going in expecting it to be garbage, wanting to confirm it. But a ticket sale is a ticket sale. (2)
Bbbrrr000ccckkk1
Honestly my real life friends and family are totally psyched about it and are fans of the actors in their other projects. BK1/2
Bbbrrr000ccckkk1
Imgur is the only place Where I see people talking shit about it. BK2/2
volatiley
2. Those are termed: whores.
KillProgressivesFTW
oh noes, you shamed those without integrity. The whore-or of it!
FuckingStupidBitches
yup.. their opinions handed to them and paid to write them.
nickknack7
Seriously are there any REAL filmmakers out there?]
TheStewart
Independent films shown in film festivals can be good. They might not be too, but such is life.
volatiley
Integrity is incompatible with hollyqueerwood
KillProgressivesFTW
This new word has much power.
FuckingStupidBitches
TIL
Dsmizz
That may be the single worst attempt at a portmanteau I've ever seen.
The2020ElectionWasStolen
just stay with hollyweird
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
Kevin Smith. He only makes $5 million movies, that no one else ever would, because he'll always make at least that back, and is having fun.
iguessidontknowhowtospellimaganative
He tried the Hollywood directing thing and it made him quit movies, until he decided fuck that, I'll make cheap movies.
Bbbrrr000ccckkk1
This is one of many reasons I totally respect Kevin Smith. I don't always like his movies (esp Jersey Girl) but I'll always pay money to see
volatiley
Fun facts should be fun.
ian9outof10
And yet everyone on the Internet seems to have seen it, because they all have a verdict to deliver on it.
CrabWallet
I've never tasted shit, but I'm sure it'd taste bad, and won't be tasting it to confirm. Here, the trailer and promotional material stinks.
SomeGuyYourMomKnows
By far the best response to this line of thought.
ian9outof10
Yes, how dare I suggest anyone go and see the movie rather than base an opinion on around 5 minutes maximum of footage.
ian9outof10
Yeah, plenty of people won't be seeing the movie, hasn't stopped them from banging on about it constantly though.
CrabWallet
I just don't get any of the hoopla about it on either side. If people want to see a fantastic all-female horror movie, buy a copy of the 1
CrabWallet
Descent. If people on the other side want to attack feminism, there's probably more serious targets out there than a dumb comedy reboot 2
CrabWallet
either way, I'm tired of hearing about it, and hope it bombs because I hope all shitty reboots bomb. 3
ian9outof10
Well, they're going to keep making Batman, Spider-man and The Avengers movies until the end of time. I fail to see how this is worse.
throwaway20160708
That's objectively not true. I literally just got back from the press screener. It has an embargo until Sunday which is super normal.
delpharseven
This is called the Hollywood Strategy and they use it when they know the movie will suck. Embargo reviews, hype the hell out of it, hope 1/
delpharseven
enough people go see it in the first few days to recoup costs before reviews and word of mouth crater sales. 2/2
TheRealFireFrenzy
In video games you sometimes get POST launch embargoes
sayhitoyamotherforme
The only time I've ever seen the embargo being used for a successful movie was to curb spoilers for The Force Awakens.
Andalite
Given the number of "likes" on YouTube trailers, I'd say word of mouth already cratered the sales. And I put likes in quotations bc the 1/2
GlitterInTheDarkNearTheTannhauserGate
Maybe that's why they need to embargo reviews? I've never seen a film being hated on so much before it's even released.
liesuponlies
Happens a lot when people remake a "classic" because people get sentimental about the original.
Andalite
last time I looked up the trailers, the dislikes outweighed the likes
Talonotw
currently sittinng at 261k likes to 916k dislikes.
RaisinZetaJones
And sexism will be blamed; cash in on the over-the-counter culture of people who will enjoy the movie out of ideology, like Atlas Shrugged.
LLCoolBeans
I actually think it looks like it might be funny. Not the original, but maybe worth watching.
Bbbrrr000ccckkk1
This is the boat I am in. I'm hoping its good but the review embargo seems really fishy.
RaisinZetaJones
It looks like a late-night Netflix surrender watch. Too bad, because Feig & McCarthy's Spy was a great send-up & deconstruction.
Mycologics
This is also very common with gaming reviews. Not just the big games too. Source: I'm an editor for a game website
Graham3435
Anyone with half a brain knows video games reviews are all untrustworthy. They haven't been honest since the 90s
Mycologics
You see the thing with MOST reviews is, is that they are an objective opinion still. Yes there will always be sites (ign gamespot) that will
Mycologics
Get paid or be dishonest about the game. But the smaller ones like us are very genuine as there's little to no money in it for us
grim5000
yah, I tend to trust the smaller reviewers, and the user review that look like something i'd write. if it's something i'd write, it's prob
Graham3435
I still don't trust smaller reviewers. Tucking tail and giving good reviews to pander is still a valid concern for me. I use lets plays
MattDark86
How often to the games with review embargos turn out to be really good, or not full of bugs?
Mycologics
That's different with each game.the bigger games tend to have more bugs but I try to look around them at first. Unless the game is unplayabl
Maiyannah
I've seen a lot of embargoed games that are good. I have never ever seen an embargoed game without a lotta day 1 bugs.
SweetJackal
Embargoes aren't bad by design, rather they are good. A review embargo is supposed to prevent the review from being rushed out 1/4
SweetJackal
trading accuracy for being first off the press. Setting a date that no review can be released before gives time for a quality review 2/4
SweetJackal
which gives the game a fair shake and helps the creator, reviewer, and consumer. Problems arise 3/4
AmorphousPorpous
Hearts of Iron 4 was a big release in the strategy genre. Was pretty good even though it was embargoed
Mycologics
I've had indie games that had an embargo like firewatch. That games was fantastic. But because of the narrative driven core.
Mycologics
They wanted reviews to come out with the release as not to spoil.
LowFatBatman
Yo, work stories bruh
Mycologics
There's not much to tell though. It's not my main job. We don't get paid. But we write news, vlog, review. We are growing though.
Mycologics
By we, I mean the guys who write news after their day job. Like me. Our boss who is running the company pays himself through ads on our site
Mycologics
Basically press companies hired by gamedevelopers pay us to advertise. It does suck when our review isn't positive though but money is money
TheSkeletonWar
Yep. Got a friend working at a game review site. It's clear they only let reviewers who show a positive interest to the game to review them.
Maiyannah
You have no idea how many times Ive not gotten press copies because our ethical policy basically reads "we aint gonna suck your cock"
TheSkeletonWar
Which might make you go: 'well duh' at first, but if you really think about it it's making all reviews super biased.
Mycologics
Good thing is the companies themselves dont have any power over us. I know I've always been honest but I'm not denying it doesn't happen.
Talonotw
to see it early are the ones who can be counted on to give good press no matter what. 2/2
TheRealFireFrenzy
Only thing worse would be the video game "post launch embargo" but this is fucking stupid
Pugsleyx
Well fuck them and that movie even further off.
ThatFellow
We had gamergate... moviegate soon?
Checkitoutausername
9.5/10 -IGN
wouderfullywhacky
"Horrible, unwatchable. Filled with terrible everything and should be avoided at all costs. 9.5/10 IGN recommended."
thegreatninjaman
"Too much Water"
TheBearsMaiden
Are you sure that's its just because of people prejudging the movie based on the gender of the actor
Pugsleyx
Then wouldn't some good reviews before release help alleviate those thoughts if they actually existed outside a tiny subset of the internet?
AskMeIfImFunAtParties
Look, i would be just as appalled with a remake if they cast larry the cable guy, tyler perry, adam sandler and kevin james, shit is shit.
Mobileuserwholikestoberandom
At first that's what I thought but no, the movie looks like it's gonna suck regardless of which gender stars in it
Upstartpotato
"I don't know if it's a lady thing or a race thing but I am mad as hell" is qoute from one of the trailers. in the trailer one of skinny...
Upstartpotato
jumped off a stage and crowed surfed while the heavy set black woman jumped off and they let her fall.
ohdeepthought
I think it's because she's much heavier to hold up than a skinny girl... But that's just me.
backstabbr1001
Have you seen the trailer? Fuck genders. A shit movie is a shit movie regardless of whether the actor has a vagina or a dick.