If you think for one milli-second that you as *Man* can make an actionable event like a monsoon into nothing to worry about, come visit the Northeast of the U.S. Scituate in particular gets whipped every other winter by *nor-easters*. Houses moved off their foundations FLOATING WHOLE down the river. Yeah, man can forget about trying to hold nature accountable where I live anyway. Man is so stupid as to build there with no future thoughts of "what if". Morons live on waterfront property
I can hear all the excavation in the middle of the desert happening. The fleet of trucks that will fill that in will take a year. Or, they might be able to dredge and pump it up from the bottom of the ocean. It’s what they do here(east coast U.S.).
It'll be back in a few weeks to months. This is normal. The storm pulls it a few hundred meters off shore and the. Waves slowly schooch it onto the beach.
This feels like some kind of austin powers level silly villain deed. "I stole your beach Gold Coast! It will cost you 1 billllion dollars to get it back!" *evil laugh*
Im Australain, but have never been to the gold coast. I didnt know towers were so close to the beach. I wonder how far down those foundations have to go
I'm guessing (as an Australian) that it doesn't look anything like your US of A's "New York" either, am I right? Nor the UK's "Old York", though it's hard to tell for sure within the flickering black and white fuzz of our telly-visions carrying glimpses of exotic scenes from afar.
Lake Michigan makes a beach against the city exactly like this, and there’s an area right along said beach called The Gold Coast. But the buildings are obviously all wrong.
I was there early 2019 when a cyclone hit, they moved a lot of the sand in dump trucks and also placed larger boulders in other areas to prevent sand washing away
There hasn't been a cyclone that far south for decades. But yes, with storms, the council there actively maintains seawalls and puts the sand back where necessary.
I live 1km behind that drone camera. We had 135km/h winds. The buildings formed wind tunnels and the wind was turbulent. It'd fluctuate between 0 and 100km/h within 5 seconds. I had a tree bend over under the wind and the tree hit my bedroom window right next to my head. Somehow the glass didn't break, but when the wind stopped for a second, the tree tried to flex back upright and it snagged my window frame. 1/
A bunch of branches were ripped off and the bottom of the metal window frame was bent outwards and upwards away from the wall. Up and down the street there's a bunch of trees knocked over, windows smashed, roads closed (due to dangling bits off skyscrapers) and a few rooves were either peeled off or pushed down and in. It was the largest power outage in Queensland's history and a bunch still have no power. Not to mention the floods causex by a meter of rain. Our dam is overflowing by 5 meters.
I walked outside before the cyclone made landfall when there was a pause in the rain, just so I could say I had "felt a cyclone". I was getting pushed around a bit, but it was still walkable (~70kph winds). I walked to the beach to see the coastline and a gust hit me in the face with sea foam. I went back inside and spent the next 15 minutes sneezing out hot salty sandy snot with the sudden resolute determination of not going back outside for a few days. It was like I had been pepper sprayed
What sort of seawall? If you mean the sort pictured, the Gold Coast has been expanding these since the 1970s. It was considered very effective against Alfred.
At the rather drastic expense of nearshore habitats. I'll also point out that a seawall would have to be tens if not hundreds of miles long to prevent water from going around. It would be cheaper to begin shifting landward and higher now.
These habitates respond well when reef-friendly surfaces are utilized, and quickly repopulate (especially when seeded) but I agree there will be an initial impoact.
I could be wrong but a seawall doesnt just help protect against flooding, it's to stop or lessen the damage from a sudden storm surge. Water might be liquid but it's pretty solid.
Yeah, there's SOME help that can come from that in the short term, just not for the beach and not when high tides keep getting higher. The whole shoreline protection game is changing fast as sea levels rise rates continue to increase. We're looking at traditional methods being untenable within the design life of a building like those high rises
Well yeah you would have to extend the wall both vertically and for a very long distance for it to weather the sea level rise coming. The wall I am suggsting is more to lessen inland wave impact in key areas and give that area a bit more time to survive (until it is inundated).
lol, imagine if that was why Canberra was invented. More like the siblings tearing their favourite doll apart. Arguably, Sydney mostly won, but not really.
And then it was built in land to be safer from naval assault. As it happens, though, it was a pretty good move ... good place to invest in real estate ;)
Historically, most 'seawalls' do far more damage than they help. See all the disappeared beaches in front of old seawalls, such as all the expensive beachfront property in Hawaii, where wealthy owners got rules suspended. Extremely sophisticated designs, may locally improve situations, but are rarely comprehendable by the naive. Underwater energy absorbing designs, in particular, may keep sand from washing decades away in terms of annual sand movement cycles. Most 'affordable' sea walls reflect
The Gold Coast has been constructing buried seawalls since the 70s. They work a treat including this week. The beaches are actively managed and will be fully restored by the Easter holidays.
most of the wave energy right back into the littoral zone, washing even more sand outside the zones of sand movement for replenishment. See: Bascomb; Waves and Beaches.
Coastal Engineer here: While drastic, for many shores this is what happens on an annual basis anyway, particularly these broad sandy types. The sediment gets dragged out to the continental shelf and then the smaller summer waves push it back on shore to reform the beach.
thank you for explaining! I was wondering if this would happen or if this was some horrific event. Crazy that its totally normal and natural and it'll go back to the 'before' eventually.
Yeah, but, it's the end of summer in Australia. Winter storms are coming. Had something similar happen where I live in Vietnam. Lost 5 metres height of sand. 6 years later, and the beach is struggling to return.
Yeah we saw this happen (not nearly to this extreme) during Helene this year. It was bizarre having a slope on our normally very, very wide, flat beach.
In a lot of places, generally speaking, winter is stormier than summer (general trend, nature doesn't always follow the rules) with larger waves to batter the shore and drag sediment offshore.
boooo to your facts boooo I want to have a visceral and completely uninformed emotional reaction to very little information meant to drive me to extrapolate the worst and most extreme possible conclusion and no less, that is why I am on here
And U automatically believe that it's completely true? Numerous structures and roads/paths that were half a century were washed away. Yeah the beach gets eaten out, but the extent is orders of magnitude greater than usual
And what are they going to do about it, huh? What the city thinking now? Are they going to do the smart thing and rezone? Prevent further development in dangerous areas? There's no stopping the ocean, so it's best to at least have a plan to start backing out of the way.
No, the storm impact was outside the realm of "normal" but it's still the same process. But then again, our "normal" is based on the past and we know that the future is increasingly departing from past trends
That's so frickin cool. Does it typically happen during the same months, and would you say that the beach is fully reformed typically by a certain month each year? Or does it vary wildly, year to year?
Yes pretty much the same months every year. Goes out with the winter storms and back in during the summer. But I didn't keep close enough records for precise timing. I'm sure it varies a bit with the variable weather paterns each year
In Cancun the sand did seem to disappear over the years and you can see older hotels and docks with construction to where the sand was 20+ yrs ago versus nowadays, what would that be?
Sand and coastlines are an ephemeral always changing geologic feature. Human activity can have a large effect as well. I'm not familiar enough with cancun to say exactly what the local conditions and causes are.
Nothing about those beaches are natural by now. Not somewhere I would willingly spend a lot of time. It's a tacky trashy glitzy American kind of place, big tourist money. I'd rather find shells and sea beans somewhere lonely and seaweed strewn.
So you engineer telekinetic weapons, or a ghost hunter? San Diego's issues go beyond a single storm, the dredging is trying to fix other manmade problems.
This erosion was from a single storm, so would wash off the beach where it can be washed back up. Yes, human factors can affect longer-term patterns. Also, I'm not really intimately familiar with this area, so that's all kind of a generalization
That could also be due to a lose of sediment inputs from other beaches. Things like marina inlets and groin fields prevent sediment movement, which starve the beaches down drift so people pump sediment up to feed the starving beaches. It's called beach nourishment.
Why are U making this sound normal? Guard towers and roads/paths that have existed for half a century were washed away. My family have lived here for decades and never seen this. Yes of course erosion occurs but saying this is normal is like saying "it's always warmer in the summer" when it's five times warmer than historic average
The level of erosion is definitely not normal. Some or even most of that sand may come back next summer, but it's high time we start moving out of coastal hazard zones that are becoming increasingly hazardous
In my region we've seen tide.levels on the order of the 1000 year event. It's getting crazy and I don't mean to not.alize any of it, I just feel out on cool coastal processes like seasonal beach morphology
His first sentence said this is "drastic" and then goes on to say that the process usually happens over a year, hence not happening overnight from a hurricane like this or to this degree.
Meh. It's only the Gold Coast, who gives a fuck. Well, Schoolies Week, OK, the kiddiewinks won't have anywhere to have sex and spew their little hearts up, but Schoolies is dropping out of fashion anyway.
I gave up explaining shit to Americans, unless you get the odd one who actually is curious enough to ask. I mean, we've had all of their stuff in our faces for the last however many decades. Let them more of them learn to figure others out for once.
AlcoholSugarSaltFat
The killy things are now closer.
Chromentor
Less beach and more water, ain't that what surfers want?
veesee
That'll buff right out mate
LogicalLimes
Damn. Looks like the threat of a tariff hit it.
pupquine
Swimming & surfing in a storm is so much fun. A bit dangerous though.
PlayerBhatin
yeah but watch out for Tropical Storm Bruce Wayne who will turn into ....
belongsinamuseum
Metal detectorist porn.
tarnation2000
Ummm that is QUITE a big difference.
bmbillings
As an Iowa State alum... Sorry....
FelonyRaptor
What are you doing, beach-step?
Fruc
Little more global warming and those buildings will have an indoor swimming pool.
f85fw6xrhs
Weirdly linear...
TrumpRapesChildren
Holy crap, it's like a whole kilometers length of Gunshot Creek-esque drop to get to the water!
skathir
Up to 6 metres high in some places! Excavators are making paths down, and ships are pumping sand back.
RenaissanceFaireMan
Did the plot of Superman with Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor happen here?
todaytomorrowwillbeyesterday
If you think for one milli-second that you as *Man* can make an actionable event like a monsoon into nothing to worry about, come visit the Northeast of the U.S. Scituate in particular gets whipped every other winter by *nor-easters*. Houses moved off their foundations FLOATING WHOLE down the river. Yeah, man can forget about trying to hold nature accountable where I live anyway. Man is so stupid as to build there with no future thoughts of "what if". Morons live on waterfront property
seanmccorkle
Jeez, how did the skyscrapers hold up in the winds?
spartanatreyu
The foundations go deep and the skyscrapers are designed to flex so they don't buckle
PorterPickUp
Mind the dip
banjak
Strewth! Got any groynes mate?
SometimesIFallDown
Yeah nah yeah
LordBarringtonBunks
It's Destination Fucked.
charondaboatman
I can hear all the excavation in the middle of the desert happening. The fleet of trucks that will fill that in will take a year. Or, they might be able to dredge and pump it up from the bottom of the ocean. It’s what they do here(east coast U.S.).
skathir
Yeah that's what's happening already, it'll be back in a few weeks.
whosbestmom
I was just there at Christmas :( . . .
Leithoa
It'll be back in a few weeks to months. This is normal. The storm pulls it a few hundred meters off shore and the. Waves slowly schooch it onto the beach.
somerandomusernamebecauseididntlikemyoldone
This feels like some kind of austin powers level silly villain deed. "I stole your beach Gold Coast! It will cost you 1 billllion dollars to get it back!" *evil laugh*
twatburglar
Eh, They buff right out! Also, get some mangroves.
skathir
Too far south for mangroves. But there's continuous buffing and polishing of the beaches, they're very artificial and will be put back in a few weeks.
Lvaneede
Im Australain, but have never been to the gold coast. I didnt know towers were so close to the beach. I wonder how far down those foundations have to go
ItsCaptain0bvious
Yo! Alfred wtf?
LordBarringtonBunks
Me, when I had to have my cats pts (due to illnesses) in '22 and last Weds. :(
MrsHowVeryDareYou
“That doesn’t look anything like Chicago” -me, a dumbass
skathir
I'm guessing (as an Australian) that it doesn't look anything like your US of A's "New York" either, am I right? Nor the UK's "Old York", though it's hard to tell for sure within the flickering black and white fuzz of our telly-visions carrying glimpses of exotic scenes from afar.
MrsHowVeryDareYou
Lake Michigan makes a beach against the city exactly like this, and there’s an area right along said beach called The Gold Coast. But the buildings are obviously all wrong.
skathir
Ahh I see!!
AnotherBeardedCanadian
I disagree, as you are 100% correct. It really doesn't look anything like Chicago!
fuzzy2k3
I was there early 2019 when a cyclone hit, they moved a lot of the sand in dump trucks and also placed larger boulders in other areas to prevent sand washing away
skathir
There hasn't been a cyclone that far south for decades. But yes, with storms, the council there actively maintains seawalls and puts the sand back where necessary.
spartanatreyu
I live 1km behind that drone camera. We had 135km/h winds. The buildings formed wind tunnels and the wind was turbulent. It'd fluctuate between 0 and 100km/h within 5 seconds. I had a tree bend over under the wind and the tree hit my bedroom window right next to my head. Somehow the glass didn't break, but when the wind stopped for a second, the tree tried to flex back upright and it snagged my window frame. 1/
spartanatreyu
A bunch of branches were ripped off and the bottom of the metal window frame was bent outwards and upwards away from the wall. Up and down the street there's a bunch of trees knocked over, windows smashed, roads closed (due to dangling bits off skyscrapers) and a few rooves were either peeled off or pushed down and in. It was the largest power outage in Queensland's history and a bunch still have no power. Not to mention the floods causex by a meter of rain. Our dam is overflowing by 5 meters.
spartanatreyu
spartanatreyu
spartanatreyu
spartanatreyu
dwarfinathonginacaskinthewaterwoooo
but did you go kitesurfing?
spartanatreyu
I walked outside before the cyclone made landfall when there was a pause in the rain, just so I could say I had "felt a cyclone". I was getting pushed around a bit, but it was still walkable (~70kph winds). I walked to the beach to see the coastline and a gust hit me in the face with sea foam. I went back inside and spent the next 15 minutes sneezing out hot salty sandy snot with the sudden resolute determination of not going back outside for a few days. It was like I had been pepper sprayed
Bystandr
Just a suggestion, but in light of the expected sea level rise in the next 5 years, this would be a good opportunity to build a seawall with
ActionJohnnie
Seamen
icantbelieveistillhavetoprotestthiscrap
Or they could just do what America is doing and pass laws to make it illegal to speak of it. Sigh.
wetsquirrel
The tall buildings will stop the water. No prob.
skathir
They have to get through the seawall already there first. Australians aren't idiots, not sure about USians.
Bystandr
skathir
What sort of seawall? If you mean the sort pictured, the Gold Coast has been expanding these since the 1970s. It was considered very effective against Alfred.
Bystandr
that tech for undermining and disrupting wave fronts as they come in. This would protect valuable development and infastructure inland.
hipifreq
At the rather drastic expense of nearshore habitats. I'll also point out that a seawall would have to be tens if not hundreds of miles long to prevent water from going around. It would be cheaper to begin shifting landward and higher now.
Bystandr
These habitates respond well when reef-friendly surfaces are utilized, and quickly repopulate (especially when seeded) but I agree there will be an initial impoact.
skathir
It exists already. It was effective against the cyclone as designed. https://www.goldcoast.qld.gov.au/gcplanningscheme_0803/maps/overlay_maps/OM_12.pdf
skathir
As a coastal engineer, wouldn't you expect there to be a seawall? Is that not the norm where you work?
skathir
Or do you know a completely different term for "seawall" of this kind? If so what would you call this type in your line of work?
canadmos
I could be wrong but a seawall doesnt just help protect against flooding, it's to stop or lessen the damage from a sudden storm surge. Water might be liquid but it's pretty solid.
hipifreq
Yeah, there's SOME help that can come from that in the short term, just not for the beach and not when high tides keep getting higher. The whole shoreline protection game is changing fast as sea levels rise rates continue to increase. We're looking at traditional methods being untenable within the design life of a building like those high rises
Bystandr
Well yeah you would have to extend the wall both vertically and for a very long distance for it to weather the sea level rise coming. The wall I am suggsting is more to lessen inland wave impact in key areas and give that area a bit more time to survive (until it is inundated).
skathir
Yeah it already exists mate, just websearch Gold Coast seawall
https://amp.abc.net.au/article/105024294
skwint
Laughs in Canberra
hipifreq
Yeah, governments are slow to catch up to the scientists and engineers, particularly about the reality of climate change
skathir
lol, imagine if that was why Canberra was invented. More like the siblings tearing their favourite doll apart. Arguably, Sydney mostly won, but not really.
skwint
And then it was built in land to be safer from naval assault. As it happens, though, it was a pretty good move ... good place to invest in real estate ;)
executivedisfunction
Historically, most 'seawalls' do far more damage than they help. See all the disappeared beaches in front of old seawalls, such as all the expensive beachfront property in Hawaii, where wealthy owners got rules suspended. Extremely sophisticated designs, may locally improve situations, but are rarely comprehendable by the naive. Underwater energy absorbing designs, in particular, may keep sand from washing decades away in terms of annual sand movement cycles. Most 'affordable' sea walls reflect
skathir
The Gold Coast has been constructing buried seawalls since the 70s. They work a treat including this week. The beaches are actively managed and will be fully restored by the Easter holidays.
executivedisfunction
most of the wave energy right back into the littoral zone, washing even more sand outside the zones of sand movement for replenishment. See: Bascomb; Waves and Beaches.
hipifreq
Coastal Engineer here: While drastic, for many shores this is what happens on an annual basis anyway, particularly these broad sandy types. The sediment gets dragged out to the continental shelf and then the smaller summer waves push it back on shore to reform the beach.
Ekibwurm
so you are saying a tsunami will fix it all back up in no time?
ghostly69
Just an engineer and I saw this kind of behaviour even in Mexico on some of th ebeaches caused by flux and reflux - stayed 14 days, saw it twice
SeanBeanDiesAlot
thank you for explaining! I was wondering if this would happen or if this was some horrific event. Crazy that its totally normal and natural and it'll go back to the 'before' eventually.
sprayingmantis4
It will take at least 12 months, probably longer
k1everest
Thank for answering this. I was wondering why this wasn’t a feature all over the world if people were involved in restorative efforts.
justfiguredoutimc4azyanddumbb
Everyone bring one pocket full of sand with you to the beach.
TomahawkJackson
*POCKET SAND!!!*
bewareofgoose
That's a badass field of expertise.
annonymouse211
1. There's such a thing as a coastal engineer! Coooool. 2. Thank you! I was very horrified for a second.
LordFancypantsicus
Coasts ain't gonna engineer themselves. (Spits into spitoon)
crateo
But engineers coast themselves pretty often.
TychoTychoAlba
There's a beach in Ireland that disappeared in a winter storm in 1984, then came back in 2017. Then disappeared again in 2019.
Twinklepot
This was amazing alright! https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/may/08/irish-beach-washed-away-reappears-freak-tide#:~:text=The%20sand%20at%20Dooagh%2C%20Achill,only%20rocks%20and%20rock%20pools.
2Soon4Baboon
I spend a lot of time on isla mujeres and every storm moves the beach out, then over time the sand comes back.
okbruh
"His favorite part was creating the lovely crinkly edges."
anoldiebutagoodie
Yeah, but, it's the end of summer in Australia. Winter storms are coming. Had something similar happen where I live in Vietnam. Lost 5 metres height of sand. 6 years later, and the beach is struggling to return.
spidermenz
TIL
MadamPuddifoot
Yeah we saw this happen (not nearly to this extreme) during Helene this year. It was bizarre having a slope on our normally very, very wide, flat beach.
Hexarcy00
Yay small summer waves! But wait it's about to be winter there.
munkis
Surfers doesn't really do winter.
LDRcycles
Winter in this part of Australia means very mild weather
hipifreq
I realized that too! Could be a tough winter for them if there are more storms
sprayingmantis4
What’s a winter storm?
hipifreq
In a lot of places, generally speaking, winter is stormier than summer (general trend, nature doesn't always follow the rules) with larger waves to batter the shore and drag sediment offshore.
pickinganameistoomuchpressure
boooo to your facts boooo I want to have a visceral and completely uninformed emotional reaction to very little information meant to drive me to extrapolate the worst and most extreme possible conclusion and no less, that is why I am on here
rowanww822000
And U automatically believe that it's completely true? Numerous structures and roads/paths that were half a century were washed away. Yeah the beach gets eaten out, but the extent is orders of magnitude greater than usual
hipifreq
And what are they going to do about it, huh? What the city thinking now? Are they going to do the smart thing and rezone? Prevent further development in dangerous areas? There's no stopping the ocean, so it's best to at least have a plan to start backing out of the way.
bill4935
Go on... (unzips)
HypoMix
Ah no, not normal for this far south, not normal for this amount, not normal for this time of year.
2old4
Thanks. That comment (normal) was hard for me to believe. I am 73 and have been around oceans and beaches all my life. That's not normal.
hipifreq
No, the storm impact was outside the realm of "normal" but it's still the same process. But then again, our "normal" is based on the past and we know that the future is increasingly departing from past trends
isetprettygirlsonfire
Geologic engineer and came down to say the same thing. Have watched this cycle happen for decades at the beach I frequent.
nation543
That's so frickin cool. Does it typically happen during the same months, and would you say that the beach is fully reformed typically by a certain month each year? Or does it vary wildly, year to year?
isetprettygirlsonfire
Yes pretty much the same months every year. Goes out with the winter storms and back in during the summer. But I didn't keep close enough records for precise timing. I'm sure it varies a bit with the variable weather paterns each year
akelamishari
In Cancun the sand did seem to disappear over the years and you can see older hotels and docks with construction to where the sand was 20+ yrs ago versus nowadays, what would that be?
isetprettygirlsonfire
Sand and coastlines are an ephemeral always changing geologic feature. Human activity can have a large effect as well. I'm not familiar enough with cancun to say exactly what the local conditions and causes are.
skathir
They ain't waiting for it! Goal is shiny beaches by Easter holidays.
isetprettygirlsonfire
Can't have the hotels lose money!
skathir
Nothing about those beaches are natural by now. Not somewhere I would willingly spend a lot of time. It's a tacky trashy glitzy American kind of place, big tourist money. I'd rather find shells and sea beans somewhere lonely and seaweed strewn.
skathir
Most of Australia's beaches are extremely lonely and natural so that's easy to do.
yamamasyamaha
Parapsychological engineer here - some beach communities use dredgers to restore the shorelines artificially. Example/ San Diego
DougTheLlama
Social Engineer here - what's your mother's maiden name?
isetprettygirlsonfire
So you engineer telekinetic weapons, or a ghost hunter? San Diego's issues go beyond a single storm, the dredging is trying to fix other manmade problems.
Glitchoff
Only with daddy issues
isetprettygirlsonfire
Snooj
Avid commenter here and I can say these two guys are correct. Source: these two guys.
OperationRustysBlanket
Hit me with a technical term for it, big popper
isetprettygirlsonfire
Seasonal beach erosion and recovery, not very sexy lol
OperationRustysBlanket
I bet the two of us could find a bigger nerd and bully them into tarting it up for us. I still like yours though
isetprettygirlsonfire
Maybe @hipifreq knows a better term, since this is more in their wheelhouse
Velorex
Question: is this the case here in Australia or was this region sand dredged for concrete? ik that its usually sand from river outlets but idk
isetprettygirlsonfire
This erosion was from a single storm, so would wash off the beach where it can be washed back up. Yes, human factors can affect longer-term patterns. Also, I'm not really intimately familiar with this area, so that's all kind of a generalization
Goldensands
Surely not this dramatically?
isetprettygirlsonfire
We don't get cyclones where I live, no. But it is the same process, it will take longer to recover though
sharK11
this happens to my beach in New Jersey every year but they pay to pump sand back to the shoreline
hipifreq
That could also be due to a lose of sediment inputs from other beaches. Things like marina inlets and groin fields prevent sediment movement, which starve the beaches down drift so people pump sediment up to feed the starving beaches. It's called beach nourishment.
doctorhat
Well yeah, they don't let you pump your own in jersey
sharK11
you can pump your own just not at the gas station
rowanww822000
Why are U making this sound normal? Guard towers and roads/paths that have existed for half a century were washed away. My family have lived here for decades and never seen this. Yes of course erosion occurs but saying this is normal is like saying "it's always warmer in the summer" when it's five times warmer than historic average
hipifreq
The level of erosion is definitely not normal. Some or even most of that sand may come back next summer, but it's high time we start moving out of coastal hazard zones that are becoming increasingly hazardous
hipifreq
In my region we've seen tide.levels on the order of the 1000 year event. It's getting crazy and I don't mean to not.alize any of it, I just feel out on cool coastal processes like seasonal beach morphology
thebonesofmyancestors
His first sentence said this is "drastic" and then goes on to say that the process usually happens over a year, hence not happening overnight from a hurricane like this or to this degree.
ConstantlyonYoBack
They aren't who they say they are and want to downplay anything to do with climate issues.
hipifreq
Nah, my focus is quite the opposite. I'm helping local governments figure out where climate will impact the shoreline and to figure out how to adapt.
PauliePlaysPoorly
Meh. It's only the Gold Coast, who gives a fuck. Well, Schoolies Week, OK, the kiddiewinks won't have anywhere to have sex and spew their little hearts up, but Schoolies is dropping out of fashion anyway.
skathir
The sand will be back by Easter holidays. Gold Coast Council set itself a deadline, they're gold class in beach management, it'll be fine.
Emjayen
For Americans: the Gold Coast is in QLD (Queensland, a state) of which is our Florida. "Schoolies" you can think of Spring Break.
cyanideremark
I gave up explaining shit to Americans, unless you get the odd one who actually is curious enough to ask. I mean, we've had all of their stuff in our faces for the last however many decades. Let them more of them learn to figure others out for once.
skathir
Yeah but they're incurious folk generally.
cyanideremark
'parochial'
skathir
Yep, you can say that again.