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IWouldDoThings
I'd like to jump to the "got $500,000 in funding" step now, please.
HCMonk
OP posSt this -------> get many upvotes ------> figures out that fake internet point cannot finance start up -----> gets depressed
hardytardigrade
Some people who succeeded failed first. That doesn't mean everyone who fails will succeed. What it means is that tenacity is helpful.
MothiurRahman
Step 1: Get a small loan, roughly $1 million.
MCgoldbody
TIL: quit your job.
ExplainsJokeTherebyRenderingJokeInert
If you want more out of life than 40 hours of repetitive bs, you gotta stop doing 40 hours of repetitive bs.
equatebrand
So much of Pinterest happened in May 2008.
Lenthas
God I hate these with a burning passion...PEOPLE: THIS IS LIKE SAYING 1% CHANCE TO WIN @LIFE, stop thinking ur the 1%.
alabamakush
More like get a small loan of 1 million dollars. - You're set mate.
TheStealthHippopotamus
I really wanted one about uber
MySaltyNuts
Now do 4chan
anonomoustache
Moot was bored so he stole the layout from 2ch back in 2003-04. And here we are today with very little change.
alwaysupvoteyellingbird
There's the part where they just moved the server for /b/ to the FBI and the recent change in ownership, but it's pretty meh, really
cryborg
I can't find one of my socks. Oh there it is.
ANewBadlyDrawnReactionImageAsIMakeThem
ITT: Imgur is filled with depressed people with confidence issues
jlhankison
Seriously! I haven't seen this much soul crushing self pity since my last Hawthorn Hights concert.
MrSomeguy
People on imgur aren't wealthy enough to quit their job and work on a pet project for months or years until their fantasy becomes a reality.
burgermei5ter
How Instagram started: old people started using Facebook
Genuine
You're forgetting about all the wannabe foodies who popularised it first.
snomang
All I need is a small loan of a million dollars
xofr
#1 made 51 games that failed, so they stole a game that was already popular and called it there own.
AbigailLongbottom
All of these need a "Won the App lottery" step.
SpiritofHops
Have a friend at some stupid click-bait website advertise your product --> get bunch of downloads --> top/trending list --> more popularity
FlatulentFerret
Not shown, the countless who failed miserably, ended up in debt, lost wife and kids, and home, became alcoholics, and killed themselves.
Andigiveyou
San Francisco is about to be littered with them in a few years.
JLimages
Reaalt don't understand why tech companies have to be located in that city. Since it is so damn expensive.
Andigiveyou
They are why its expensive
YoSoyMilk
Isn't angry birds actually a data miner disguised as a game?
nicoleMcomix
Good question
Onzid
Everything is a data-miner.
rattlebonesjones
Angry Birds actually got the idea from many superior flash games like Crush the Castle.
RepostFromLastWeek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_Earth_(video_game) is probably one of the earliest of that type of games.
Mudguard
Which took the concept from another game along with the setting. Even before that there were sling stuff at something type games.
blazera
Nah I think Castle Clout started the thing. CtC and Angry Birds might as well be texture packs.
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crabcore
Or from, you know, people actually shooting cannons at castles and walls.
jamiewritesfic
I wouldn't bother - been reading the comments. Everyone seems to believe that whoever they grew up with came up with wholly unique ideas.
420xxx69CommunismWillWin69xxx420
It's more that we would like people to stop pretending it was a creative, inspired decision rather than the last half-assed gasp.
jamiewritesfic
Oh I get it. But the truth is, you don't know if they got the idea through inspiration from *insert any of 1 mill games here* or through 1/?
jamiewritesfic
some sort of creative "muse". (Unless they specifically say they did, in which case no one is pretending). There's some sort of study 2/?
Sionas
But how many start ups end up succeeding? You incentive a lot of people, but many might end up worse than they started.
MadTimmy
Its a lot like imgur's front page, you have no idea what will make it. Sometimes its a ripped off idea(Repost) and sometimes its OC.
poochyena
What is your point exactly? You shouldn't go to college since you might fail and be in a lot of debt. You can fail or succeed at anything.
GIsLife
Who said anything about college? He is talking about entrepreneurship
jeffreybaratheon
The odds of succeeding after college (i.e. getting a job) are waaaaaaaaaaay higher than creating a successful startup.
poochyena
Well, what IS the return rate for spending money on college vs spending money on starting a business?
jeffreybaratheon
Almost anyone can take an idea, produce a product and sell it. Few people can scale it to survive long term.
jeffreybaratheon
The most deceptive part is that the beginning part of starting a business is easy-ish. It's sustaining and expanding it that's hard.
eddiebarzoon
Starting a regular business and starting a startup are very, very different.
jeffreybaratheon
Even with how expensive college is, I'd say this still heavily favors it over starting a business, which is really, really hard.
poochyena
College isn't some walk in the park either. It is always depicted as "Go to college, get all As, then get $100,000 year job! Easy!"
johnvictor
People have a romanticised view of a startup business and being successful. In reality, many fail so expectations should be grounded.
poochyena
That is college you are talking about. No one other than successful entrepreneurs will tell you anything good about starting a business.
poochyena
I wish I knew all these people you knew who wanted to make a startup, because I can't find a single person.
johnvictor
Well, let's see. I remember some of the common responses for people my age having difficulty with work is that we should open a business.
ourari
So you want to be an entrepreneur? I see a burnout and crushing debt in your future.
dietderpsy
Most start ups fail.
GIsLife
Relevant stats for anyone interested in entrepreneurship http://www.statisticbrain.com/startup-failure-by-industry
kidblack
Just went on a 3 hour link extravaganza from this comment
GIsLife
glad to help
whyteraven74
Not shown, be under 35 if you want VC money and be prepared to deal in marketing bullshit instead of actual product.
ImgurNeedsMoreSmartass
Step 1: find money
kuaert
Step 2: ??? Step 3: Profit
Eriniva
Step 2: Get skills
TakuyaKato
それな
Warumbel
Why bother with step 2 :-)
aFactIsAFact
EwanMe
Step 0: find motivation
GeekBoyChrisOnlySometimes
Only a small loan of a million dollars.
Buzzkillinit
It's super easy, just get a small loan of $1,000,000 from your dad.
Ahobonamedslickback
times are getting rough if that's all you can get. Thanks Obama
aFactIsAFact
Mycologics
You're right! Lemme call my pops!
PoliceMurderer
1,000,000 actually isn't a lot in start up. A lot successful start ups get 3-7 mil.
PoliceMurderer
Peeple, for example, has over 7 million in early investments and is still expected to flop. Succeeding isn't easy.(1/2)
PoliceMurderer
I hate trump too, but let's use actual arguments against him instead of praising his economic success. (2/2)
Juicyhil
Ok got myself a small loan from my dad. Will I be president now?
REV076
Not unless you have ideas about the Wall, Mexicans and Muslims #theyretakingourjewbs
longestusernameallowedatthistimesotherebuttobesureiaddedmore
Seems more like #theybreathingourair
FreebasedDingus
Or put yourself in moneys path. So much money flies around every day, you need to convince someone to let you carry it for them.
Derajofdoom
Didn't work for pied piper
Iamsonewatthis
It was because Russ Fuckin' Hanneman deleted all their code with a bottle of Tres Comas
ilovenipplepics
this guy... *points at Derajofdoom* this guy FUCKS !!!
watdafuddafokinfok
It was cuz their logo...
Onzid
TIL: Charts make things seem easy.
DumbLoser
Step 2: make 51 games. Step 3: go almost broke.
SlickRiggins
Isn't it just so easy to start a successful company?
hotdogparty
The chart does really simplify things and we aren't seeing things like the time/social/financial commitments, but for someone that's 1/2
hotdogparty
trying to build or grow a business or even a small project, seeing a greatly simplified form (including failures) can be a huge help.
Ratekk
it's those silhouette people. they make everything look easy. have you ever actually tried crossing a street?
MintyTS
This makes it look a lot more difficult than a lot of people seem to think.
vocalminority
If those made these things seem easy, you didn't read them properly
vlramos214
Also it does not have to be a c-corp. They are the easiest to raise money but it could be a partnership like the Koch brothers
valpestilence
yup. As someone who incorporated a game company in November, I learned that not being afraid to scrap an idea and start over is important
hosieryadvocate
I know what you mean. Before I came down to the comments, the first thing that popped in my mind was the owl-drawing tutorial: 1/2
hosieryadvocate
"First draw 2 circles. Now draw the owl!". 2/2
Ferret2003
This sounds easy to you?
eetsumkaus
I think these charts were supposed to do the opposite
HCMonk
So Op's mom is a chart?
HardiSMH
Rekt? Rekt!
DyslectorDestroyerOfWords
you nailed it (pun intended)
celi4
SAVAGE
InboxMeYourGermanShepherds
Quick, someone draw a chart on how to rek OP
SomethingThatCapturesMyIdentity
HEYOOOO!
StrangeDoodle
Rektp
BenSnow97
Nope, but I got a chart showing which hole of hers to attack if you want to blow up the main reactor
HisNameIsDan
fijiartesian
Yeah where's the part where they invested $140,000 to create angry birds?
ElecTech
They do. All these things seem to be done with code, which is dirt cheap, and market something made by other people.
shallowdrown
Code is not dirt cheap, lol. Not if you're hiring Americans.
samsonguy920
I saw that at a 9 am meeting once.
TheUtahn
26% of emergency room visits are related to over-confident chart following.
Onzid
Did you read that on a chart?
AwesomeName
Needs 400 more infographics about people that just kept on failing
CrowbarCommando
Failing? But this tells me that all I need to do is risk everything I have and I'll succeed no matter what!
Litten
Yes, people need to know that they can learn more from failure than look at the rosy success stories that are spat at us.
DDPB9k5G
The point is all these people multiple failures on their path. Need an infographic that includes all the times they thought about quitting.
iamnotcontent
Everybody is a temporarily inconvenienced millionaire. That's why we keep voting for policies that are bad for the poor.
ssjalhazred
Especially for people who think rags-to-riches is a thing anyone can do (I'm looking at you, Oprah) because they don't understand scarcity.
Sublime1981
With that said. While some play it safe, sometimes I think I'd rather try and fail then have a nagging what if my whole life.
TeraGX
Over 155k views on this, 4 instances of success are described.
Snooj
I could make you one about how I started a company, ran it for 12 years, sold it for less than my total debt, and now work for a living.
hjf2011
i could make one about how i keep trying to make my shop work even 7 years after i realized it's never going to.
Snooj
I remember what it was like being 7 years in. I feel you.
lairlandesa
Yeah I think it's called survivorship bias where we focus on those who made it, rather than the tens of thousands that don't, despite 1/2
lairlandesa
..using the same process 2/2
dangerkitty
Oo, new term to learn about! Thanks @irishproseccosocialist
lairlandesa
No problem @dangerkitty
WowSuchWow
Someone should launch a service that shortens people's thoughts near realtime into the appropriate characters limits for imgur, twitter etc.
LeedsManc
It's called an English degree
WowSuchWow
hmmm... degreesofenglish.com - I like it!
marylanddd
have you read freakonomics? there's a part about how actors and drug dealers often do shitty work with big dreams of being on top
mithiwithi
A startup succeeds when it's the right idea in the right place at the right time. 1/2
mithiwithi
You can't control the second two, so it's down to how many ideas you can afford to throw out there. 2/2
FoxySpirit
Yeah, there is sucess selection bias. Many startups followed this exact route but eventually failed. Only a handful survive.
mithiwithi
In the examples given, most failed several times before succeeding. If they hadn't been able to make that last try, they'd be the same.
StepRightUp
Much like a FP post that I previously added 3 times then sme schmo adds and gets to fp!
reflectedsoundofundergroundspirits
Translated: start-ups succeed with the right idea before anyone else thinks of it. Gotta be first.
PaxAmericano
You should watch Connections. It'll change your perception of innovation. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Connections_(TV_series)
thisisprocrastination
None of those were the first at what they did.
dangerkitty
It also heavily ignores that there's a huge difference between doing something as a hobby versus doing something professionally. You 1/2
dangerkitty
can't build a business as a hobby. A business/professional career is a full-time task where you focus on marketing and other 2/3
dangerkitty
non-glamourous/non-idea stuff as well. If marketing and logistics don't interest you, then you're not going to be a successful business. 3/4
dangerkitty
You might be successful as a hobbist, however, so long as you understand the distinction.
dangerkitty
Also, it heavily glosses over the iteration/relaunch part which can be as substantial and time-consuming as all the rest combined.
Mana
I want one showing how Imgur started @alan @sarah
heavymachinery
....
kangaimgur
pretty sure it just came from the fact reddit didn't have a simple image hosting site
BeeR411
That's pretty much it
effigyoma
Turns out it's just a sequence of cat pictures
DotSlashNatalie
And a Raspberry Pi as their server.
SpaghettiFox
More like a repurposed gameboy color
ExplainsJokeTherebyRenderingJokeInert
Lime green, best color, hands down. Pink "translucent" confirmed ugliest gameboy.
SpaghettiFox
I had a pink translucent one, only good thing about it was nobody asked to play it.
GitToDaChoppa
dead!
PMmeyourshatteredhopesanddreams
Conclusion: startups are a crapshoot
ExplainsJokeTherebyRenderingJokeInert
I'd also argue that most of the startup goons are all about the get rich quick. And it really isn't.
ExplainsJokeTherebyRenderingJokeInert
Only if you take failure personally and give up. With dedication and learning, the dots connect somewhere.
PMmeyourshatteredhopesanddreams
Fact is for most people they don't. Many people start 5-6 failed startups before giving up
ExplainsJokeTherebyRenderingJokeInert
Maybe success was the 7th try. Maybe it's the 13th try. Maybe it's the 100th try. The important part is that they quit before they tried.
PMmeyourshatteredhopesanddreams
They quit because they have families and can't keep losing money
ExplainsJokeTherebyRenderingJokeInert
Everybody uses the family card. https://www.ted.com/talks/larry_smith_why_you_will_fail_to_have_a_great_career?language=en
QualifiedWhitePerson
#1 is more like: "Sucked at everything they did. Ripped off Crash The Castle. Swimming in money."
cousteau
Crush the Castle was made earlier? I mean, I did know about it before I knew about Angry Birds, but I usually know things in a weird order.
EpicPancakes
Yeah, I find it hard to believe "fling the thing into the structure"didn't exist beforehand
LvAllen
"Fling the thing into the structure" existed as a dos program in 1991. Gorillas.bas for the MFW!
Lukapaka
Gorillas*
Oscill8s
nibbles > gorilla
LvAllen
Snake byte > Nibbles
Lukapaka
First reference to Gorillaz I've ever seen on Imgur! +1!!
cousteau
[victoriously raises arms alternatively]
tooomanysteves
I remember Gorillas!
thegreatandpowerfulkawa
Ripped the design and name from a pet's toy that some mother somewhere came up with.
NeverGetsTheNuke
Really?
thegreatandpowerfulkawa
Yes. The originals had legs, too. And then when the Crash the Castle ripoff got popular, the toys came back... legless.
NeverGetsTheNuke
Oh neato
thegreatandpowerfulkawa
Not for the poor lady who got shafted.
pixelsnader
That's like saying Hearthstone ripped off MtG. Angry birds is nuch more accessible, while moving the core concept to a new platform.
wadatahmydamie
You could say the same thing about Led Zeppelin, but it doesn't make their blatant theft go away.
pixelsnader
Making things easier/simpler while simultaneously keeping it interesting, while learning new hardware/software, is pretty tricky.
afriendofmine
The cynical will always find a way to complain. Don't try to reason with the 'I knew of this before it was popular' crowd.
DasOgre
That would only be true if the hearthstone played the same as mtg. They have completely different game mechanics.
Dursus
Yeah there are parallels and all that and you can certainly see the influences MTG had but they really are quite different
pixelsnader
So does Angry Birds. Choosing projectiles vs fixed lineup. Double pendulum trebuchet (timing -> angle) vs slingshot (angle+power -> curve).
LavaAxe
What, draw cards, play cards, cards cost mana, cards interact with each other. The rest is fluff. Same game.
DasOgre
That means basketball and hockey are the same. Place object in net that you're allowed to pass to one of four of your teammates or shoot it
LavaAxe
Hey I realize you love HS, it ain't a bad game. I like it too. It's still an MtG variant.
Efreeti
Crush the Castle*
aerodynamit3
i fucking love that game. and all of new grounds from 2000-05
JokeDestroyer
Met Tom Fulp at a local convention recently, he's a mellow dude.
MafLoic
I remember 2 games on Lycos that were rabbits throwing easter eggs and monkeys throwing bananas. Chose angle and power and you hit the other
poochyena
They are similar games, but definitely not a rip off. Would be like saying any military FPS is a rip off of COD.
Efreeti
Well, Crush the Castle was inspired by Castle Clout, and they asked for permission, and made it free. Angry Birds did not ask, & wasn't free
CountDesMoines
I knew I wasn't the only one!
styroxmiekkasankari
And would you believe that some of us Finns actually believed that "innovations" like angry birds would restore our economy?
styroxmiekkasankari
Instead they sold it somewhere and at least I don't know where the money goes atm.
grovberg
For a long time, every FPS was referred to as a Doom clone.
drosophilamelanogaster
And then mankind discovered the word "genre", and hope reigned.
theclap67
Holy shit you're right
AnIdiotWhoShouldBeShot
This. I was playing the exact same game on Newgrounds/Albino Black Sheep about 10 years earlier.
browniesftw
same. except not on those two sites
FaxCelestis
Kongregaaaaaate
m4rci4no
I did on armor games
fastolaf
Formerly known as Games of Gondor
Melinyel
I did not know that. I had wondered where Games of Gondor went, but never took to time to google it.
Demicol
Rehashing an old idea and became famous? What is motion controls, 3D movies, the list goes on. It's all about the presentation.
Glumerlink
nah i played a shitload of castle crasher type games that were cute before theirs, it boggles my mind how it ever caught on more than those
Battleoncat
It had what flash games didn't poop access. You can play phone games from almost any where.
Snooj
Poop access.
salsadetomate
It's like candy crush. Isn't that just bejeweled?
freegiant
And isn't that just Dr. Mario
Snooj
Not even that creative, it's Candy Swipe. They even used the same colored candies.
cousteau
Could make a similar summary of Candy Crush
samanic
They're doing terrible this year, I don't think they made a profit in 2015
FajitaPrinceofAllMexicans
It explains why there's now Angry Birds the movie coming out.
aromaticfable
Thus...the movie in an attempt to recover losses.
Wombatfisher
Good. Angry Birds 2 was bullshit.
HateWinslet
Right? I would have been happy if it had basically been Angry Birds 1 with one or two minor changes. Nope, total redesign. Why?
Wombatfisher
Because they saw the addictive nature of Candy Crush (also a bullshit game) and decided to follow that model? Just a guess.
flamingflamingo
How can they not make a profit? They have merchandising out the wazoo.
RepostFromLastWeek
Super bad management + infrastructure bloat.
samanic
They expected a lot more money this year and spent more than they made
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RepostFromLastWeek
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Worms_(series) ?
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RepostFromLastWeek
Maybe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scorched_Earth_(video_game) ?
IWasInThePool
Isn't it more a rip off of Worms?
IWasInThePool
Having searched it and realized I was playing Crush the Castle a long time ago, I see your point. AB seems to have actually copied the
IWasInThePool
projectiles at their enemies on the other side of the screen."
Mudguard
I don't see it as a rip off. 7 months between them. Not enough time to fully develop a game. There were slinging games before CtC and AB.
AnythingMuchShorter
Weird how that works. There were 100 games like candy crush before it came out and for some reason it made the company sell for $5.9B
SpiritofHops
Candyswipe-types are copies of Bejeweled first published in 2001. That in turn can be traced all the way back to Tetris.
PikaChunin
CtC was also not the first 2D physics based slingshot game. I remember playing 3-4 before CtC ever came out, it was just the best one.
IWasInThePool
Worms!
PikaChunin
Nah, that's PvP with a destructible environment and you can move your guys, play on teams... very different.
LvAllen
Gorillas.bas!
PikaChunin
Hahaha! I know the .bas format! But that's still not a slingshot physics game. It's an artillery tank game that Scorched Earth iterated!
ThatsMySecretCapImAlwaysHorny
Please explain the difference between slingshot physics and artillery physics.